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[#1]
Yes, I live by myself so I don't have to worry about family members.
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[#2]
Originally Posted By triburst1: Of course. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/34777/E5DE7F21-58D3-474E-B8C7-816F702F11E2_jpe-2265325.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/34777/1473228F-242A-4C59-B5C6-4F9245D56401_jpe-2265326.JPG View Quote I’m cool with that… Attached File |
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[#3]
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"People don't think Cola Warrior be like it is but it do..." - George Washington
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[Last Edit: Lawman75]
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[#6]
I like my TLR7A on my Glock 19 but I wish Surefire would would step up and make something comparable. I have a XC1 and I just never could warm up to it.
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[#7]
Originally Posted By Lawman75: I like my TLR7A on my Glock 19 but I wish Surefire would would step up and make something comparable. I have a XC1 and I just never could warm up to it. View Quote Streamlight is dominating the pistol light arena IMO. But a scout or a handheld, well Surefire still seems to be king if flood and not throw or spill is the preferred outcome. |
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[#8]
I have noticed that just above the activation switches on the TLR -1 and 7 is a great place for the offhand thumb to rest. Works great for helping with recoil.
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The other sexy Pirate.
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[#9]
I've really grown to like them. The TLR-7A adds basically no bulk to the gun. My EDC 365XL has a TLR-7SUB (though if I were to do it again I'd get the Tactical Application rail adaptor and use a normal TLR-7A and one of the many compatible holsters, rather than the SUB's shitty attachment that is slowly eating through the 365's frame), and my pocket gun has a integrated light (Beretta Pico with light grip module). They have come in handy and now I'd be hesitant to go without a light.
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Participation in the rights of citizenship presumes participation in the duties of citizenship
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[#11]
I see the WML as a backup to your primary light. The fact that you are using the WML means you already drew your gun because you intended to shoot and likely were shooting. So it's there just in case, but it's not a primary light, it's for when things have gone south pretty badly.
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[#12]
Originally Posted By PirateNinja: I see the WML as a backup to your primary light. The fact that you are using the WML means you already drew your gun because you intended to shoot and likely were shooting. So it's there just in case, but it's not a primary light, it's for when things have gone south pretty badly. View Quote No sir. It's just the opposite. If it's go-time, you need to be using both hands to effectively operate your blaster. The hand-held light is there so you can search and assess without 1) sticking your face behind the big white target, and 2) continuing to cover the threat. |
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"People don't think Cola Warrior be like it is but it do..." - George Washington
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[#14]
Yep. And a handheld.
I work every at 6pm - 3am. From right around now until the end of March (it seems like), it’ll be dark or at least dusk when I leave for work, do my grocery shopping or go home. |
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[Last Edit: 45ProCarry]
[#15]
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Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun.
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[#16]
Yes. I work second shift. It’s dark when I’m out of the house probably 60% of the time. Now it’s getting dark at 730 and that’ll be even earlier as real winter hits. I carry a handheld as well.
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[#17]
I spend a lot of time outdoors after sunset / before sunrise so I carry a handgun with a WML. Threat ID is not only a moral imperative, but also an edge in defending your actions should you get sued/prosecuted for defending your life.
With the advent of affordable and durable "compact" lights like the Streamlight TLR-7 series I find very little reason to NOT have a light on your gun. My EDC is a HK P30SKS with Streamlight TLR-7A. It is no less concealable with or without the WML on it. |
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[#18]
Forgot to mention, I also carry a Streamlight ProTAC 1L clipped in my pocket for illuminating without having to draw my handgun.
Seeing stuff is important. |
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[#20]
G17 with an X300.
I carry an hand held too. Options are good. |
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[#21]
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[Last Edit: 8w7]
[#22]
I carry a weapon light. Will it ever get used? Probably not except in a really rare situation. But I have one because I chose one with a small footprint that doesn’t add any real weight or bulk to it. Better to have and not need as long as it doesn’t get in the way.
With that said, some of you guys are absolute cringe and really need to get some type of training. If outdoors and you see a person around your car for example in a parking lot, you aren’t going to draw and turn on your light for PID like it has been said here. Since there was enough ambient light to see someone around your car to begin with, there will be enough ambient light to see if they are just walking by or are a threat to you. Every public area like gas stations, store or restaurant parking lots, and public streets have ambient light. And if something extraordinary happened where there wasn’t any due to a power outage or you are walking down a rural road from your house to the neighbors house a quarter mile down the road with your dog, you aren’t going to walk in the pitch darkness and PID everyone see with your weapon light. You’ll use your pocket handheld or your phone light if you don’t have a pocket light to walk because why? You can’t see anything ! There isn’t enough ambient light to see anything. At home there should also be enough ambient light in your hallways, kitchen, living rooms, etc. Only a fool would keep their house in total darkness so that when their door opens at 10pm, you can’t tell if it’s their daughter coming home from work or someone else who built in to where you have to shine a weapon light or even a flashlight for that matter. In the real world light switches, night lights in hallways, kitchens, foyers, etc exist. You don’t need to clear your house with the lights off with a weapon light when the door opens. |
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[#24]
Originally Posted By 8w7: At home there should also be enough ambient light in your hallways, kitchen, living rooms, etc. Only a fool would keep their house in total darkness so that when their door opens at 10pm, you can’t tell if it’s their daughter coming home from work or someone else who built in to where you have to shine a weapon light or even a flashlight for that matter. In the real world light switches, night lights in hallways, kitchens, foyers, etc exist. You don’t need to clear your house with the lights off with a weapon light when the door opens. View Quote In the Real World... STUFF HAPPENS. Power gets cut (accidentally or deliberately). Storms, Blackouts, Service Interruptions. There are multiple ways that Commercial Power can be disabled to a home. I think it's beyond stupid to rely on Commercial power to ALWAYS BEING THERE. If I wake up to a noise, I don't immediately turn on any lights. I listen & try to figure out what woke me up. If I then decide to check my home to ensure everything is secure, the weapon I carry WILL have a weapon light attached. But I'll also have a handheld flashlight with me. |
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[Last Edit: 8w7]
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Originally Posted By Sniper3142: In the Real World... STUFF HAPPENS. Power gets cut (accidentally or deliberately). Storms, Blackouts, Service Interruptions. There are multiple ways that Commercial Power can be disabled to a home. I think it's beyond stupid to rely on Commercial power to ALWAYS BEING THERE. If I wake up to a noise, I don't immediately turn on any lights. I listen & try to figure out what woke me up. If I then decide to check my home to ensure everything is secure, the weapon I carry WILL have a weapon light attached. But I'll also have a handheld flashlight with me. View Quote Did you read my whole post or just picked a part of it to argue with? Read the first 3 sentences of my very first paragraph. |
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[#27]
Yes mostly because I work evenings and am out after dark on a daily basis.
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[#28]
Yes. TLR-7a on the G19 and a TLR-7sub on the P365XL. Used to have an x300 on the Glock but it was unnecessary and made the gun difficult to carry. Very happy with the TLR-7A
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[#29]
No...
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Only the Skilled Survive
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[#30]
The only gun(s) I carry that don't have a light are pure-to-original-form 1911s. Every other gun has a WML.
IMHO you really shouldn't carry a handgun for defense without a light on it. |
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[#31]
Originally Posted By ArizonaRifleman: Streamlight is dominating the pistol light arena IMO. But a scout or a handheld, well Surefire still seems to be king if flood and not throw or spill is the preferred outcome. View Quote I use Streamlight (TLR-1, TLR-7) exclusively on handguns. I use SureFire (Scout 600 series) exclusively on rifles. I use Streamlight (Racker series on a Mossberg 590A1) and SureFire (LED series on a Benelli M2) on shotguns. |
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[#32]
I have been using Streamlight and Surefire WML for MANY MANY MANY years and have actually had both fail under normal usage.
StreamLight's CS was AWESOME. SureFire's CS was MEH. |
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[#33]
Originally Posted By ARgunner0210: EDC has had a light since day one. Went from a TLR-1HL to a TLR9 to now a Modlite PL350 OKW. Also been carrying a hand held for most of that time, Streamlight Microstream USB to Protac 2LX to Cloud Defensive MCH. Current EDC: https://i.imgur.com/HxIgjpTl.jpg Hand held light only is fine if it works for you, but options are nice. View Quote which mag pouch is that? does it by chance allow horizontal belt carry? |
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[#34]
on my duty weapon, yes - streamlight tlr1-hl
personal carry weapon, yes - streamlight tlr-7a sub i also pocket carry a light almost daily, because im apparently scared of the dark |
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[#35]
Yes, G26 with TLR 6. I also keep a small flashlight with me.
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[#36]
Both my carry guns have lights. I consider it a must, even if you carry a separate flashlight. Attached File
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[#37]
Originally Posted By mediumdaddy: which mag pouch is that? does it by chance allow horizontal belt carry? View Quote It is a PHLSTER Flex pistol pouch. Doubt you could run it horizontally, but im not entirely sure. It wound up permanently affixed to my duty bely a few months back and I have temporarily replaced it with a Spiritus insert in my back pocket while I browse some IWB double mag carriers. |
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[#38]
Originally Posted By Mfinaustin: No carry lights. I use muzzle flash to light my way. View Quote Attached File |
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[#39]
The only time a light is on my EDC is when it's at home since my holster does not accommodate it.
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[#40]
Both, depends on the gun I am carrying. In a perfect world, all my carry option (heck every gun I own) would have a light on it. Budgets and all that..
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[#41]
Originally Posted By bcauz3y: I don't understand the family thing being relevant. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By bcauz3y: Originally Posted By MrBogardus: Yes, I live by myself so I don't have to worry about family members. I don't understand the family thing being relevant. I have kids at home. The argument is, I hear a bump in the night. I grab my G17 and start moving down my hallway. Chair moves in the dinning room, I bathe the room in x300 goodness and find myself with a hot 9mm pointed at my 4 year old's forehead. If I had a handheld light, I PID would not include pointing my gun in every corner of the house. Solution = have both. |
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[#42]
Nope, dead man walking.
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[#43]
Originally Posted By NvrBrdWes: I have kids at home. The argument is, I hear a bump in the night. I grab my G17 and start moving down my hallway. Chair moves in the dinning room, I bathe the room in x300 goodness and find myself with a hot 9mm pointed at my 4 year old's forehead. If I had a handheld light, I PID would not include pointing my gun in every corner of the house. Solution = have both. View Quote I was approaching it from the other way. Not having a family isn't an excuse for failing to identify a target. Having both is the right answer. |
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"People don't think Cola Warrior be like it is but it do..." - George Washington
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[#44]
Originally Posted By bcauz3y: I was approaching it from the other way. Not having a family isn't an excuse for failing to identify a target. Having both is the right answer. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By bcauz3y: Originally Posted By NvrBrdWes: I have kids at home. The argument is, I hear a bump in the night. I grab my G17 and start moving down my hallway. Chair moves in the dinning room, I bathe the room in x300 goodness and find myself with a hot 9mm pointed at my 4 year old's forehead. If I had a handheld light, I PID would not include pointing my gun in every corner of the house. Solution = have both. I was approaching it from the other way. Not having a family isn't an excuse for failing to identify a target. Having both is the right answer. Definitely best to have boaf |
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[#46]
until the brace crap is settled, I changed out my console gun to a G34.3 with HS407 and TLR-1...a Thrunight Archer small LED hand held pocket carried when I carry the G43 or G43x
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[#47]
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“It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men”
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[#48]
On 1 of 3 guns I do (Glock 19 with TLR-7 and RMR). This is my least carried gun, usually only fall/winter time or if I'm camping and more open carrying than anything.
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'MURICA
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[#49]
I rarely go out after dark. Just nothing I need to do at that time. And it is highly unlikely I will go into a dark place during daylight hours. That said, I do not have a light on my EDC. My bedside nightstand has a 1911 45 ACP with a Streamlight mounted on it. My Rattler has a light mounted on it - along with a suppressor. My 12 gauge shotgun does not. They are all there and ready to go if something goes bump in the middle of the night.
GBB |
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[#50]
Yes. There's no good reason not to have a light and train with it.
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