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Posted: 5/3/2021 3:59:29 PM EDT

Does anyone know who could repair cracked pre-b stainless CZ75 frame?
I’m not sure it’s safe to shoot without the repair?
Perhaps the frame needs some sort of welding job?
It looks like some chunk of metal is missing on the rear and the holes... perhaps casting flaw?
How much should I expected to pay on a repair like this?
Thanks in advance.

Posted: 5/3/2021 4:18:35 PM EDT

[#1]

I'm not super expert, but I do lost wax cast silver and bronze in the garage.

That looks exactly like a casting flaw known as shrinkage. We'd call the pits next to it "blow holes". Looks like that just had some issues during manufacturing. The line that runs through that lower pitted hole reinforces that thought.

Does the "crack" continue on the inside of the rail from where it wraps around the back?

Posted: 5/3/2021 4:19:01 PM EDT

[#2]

My pre b frame goes all the way to the back of the slide. Looks like yours broke a while ago and was cleaned up?
I don’t know if that would be worth fixing or who would. Are there still cheap pre b guns out there? Mine was like 350 used but that was years ago.

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Posted: 5/3/2021 4:30:43 PM EDT

[#3]

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Does anyone know who could repair cracked pre-b stainless CZ75 frame?
I’m not sure it’s safe to shoot without the repair?
Perhaps the frame needs some sort of welding job?
It looks like some chunk of metal is missing on the rear and the holes... perhaps casting flaw?
How much should I expected to pay on a repair like this?
Thanks in advance.

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Yikes! Was that dipped in acid?

Posted: 5/3/2021 4:34:22 PM EDT

[#4]

The missing chunk is concerning too, but it was either not a big enough problem for them to worry about it at the factory, or someone refinished it.

I could have been in incomplete cast and they just filed it down. All I'm doing now is speculating though. Curious to see if there's an expert with an answer.

Posted: 5/3/2021 5:09:44 PM EDT

[#5]

Looks to me like it was welded once before. The missing piece was probably filed off to clean things up to a tolerable level. Clean it really good and look at the inside of the rail for a proud weld, wavy corners, or file marks.

Posted: 5/3/2021 5:16:31 PM EDT

[#6]

Here's the more pic....

Posted: 5/3/2021 5:30:52 PM EDT

[#7]

Way back, my first 97B I uncovered some cracks in the same spots on it's frame. Since I'm in KC area, I just drove it over to CZ when they were here. They took a look at it, took my info and in a couple weeks a whole new 97B arrived via FedEx. So, I'd contact them first with these pics and see what they say.

Posted: 5/3/2021 5:36:11 PM EDT

[#8]

That would be nice... do they have lifetime warranty?

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Way back, my first 97B I uncovered some cracks in the same spots on it's frame. Since I'm in KC area, I just drove it over to CZ when they were here. They took a look at it, took my info and in a couple weeks a whole new 97B arrived via FedEx. So, I'd contact them first with these pics and see what they say.

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Posted: 5/3/2021 6:15:51 PM EDT

[#9]

CZ replaced a broken P07 for me before. I don’t know what they would do for you.

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Posted: 5/3/2021 6:19:10 PM EDT

[#10]

Nice!

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CZ replaced a broken P07 for me before. I don’t know what they would do for you.

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Posted: 5/3/2021 6:36:50 PM EDT

[#11]

That looks like it was repaired before, maybe by silver soldering?

Posted: 5/3/2021 6:37:45 PM EDT

[#12]

I would agree with the members that said it was welded before. It sure looks like it both on the outside and the inside. The pitting is the result of dirt in the casting that was trying to float to the top during welding. This type of inclusion in casting is rather common. I would contact CZ and see what they say, maybe you will get lucky.

Posted: 5/3/2021 7:28:01 PM EDT

[#13]

Thanks,
Will get in touch with CZ and see what you they want to say.

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I would agree with the members that said it was welded before. It sure looks like it both on the outside and the inside. The pitting is the result of dirt in the casting that was trying to float to the top during welding. This type of inclusion in casting is rather common. I would contact CZ and see what they say, maybe you will get lucky.

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Posted: 5/3/2021 7:32:28 PM EDT

[#14]

I'm not a CZ owner but I'm curious as to if it has seen a lot of use? Looks like for safety's-sake it should be retired.

Posted: 5/3/2021 7:50:16 PM EDT

[#15]

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I'm not a CZ owner but I'm curious as to if it has seen a lot of use? Looks like for safety's-sake it should be retired.

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This!

Posted: 5/3/2021 8:51:33 PM EDT

[#16]

Actually, the firearm is in very good shape with minimal wear on the slide, barrel and frame except the crack of course.
It’s either casting flaw or user error?

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I'm not a CZ owner but I'm curious as to if it has seen a lot of use? Looks like for safety's-sake it should be retired.

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Posted: 5/4/2021 11:48:09 AM EDT

[#17]

To my untrained eye it looks like a flaw during manufacturing.

Posted: 5/7/2021 9:39:38 PM EDT

[#18]

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That would be nice... do they have lifetime warranty?

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No, but they're well known for taking care of their customers when the gun is obviously defective, as your is.

Posted: 5/8/2021 7:50:31 AM EDT

[#19]

Never heard of a stainless Pre B.

The edges of the holes for the safety are super rounded off. All mine are nice sharp corners/edges.

I've only stripped the finish (parkerized) off one Pre B and the metal surface of the frame was way smoother than that one.

I wonder if there is anyone willing to work on that frame, especially in that area where it's cracked.

CZ no longer makes the stainless steel CZ75 (bright/shiny or matte finish) pistols.

Posted: 5/9/2021 8:06:18 AM EDT

[#20]

Yeah, that's the same thing I was told by another local CZ guru!

Unfortunately, it has a faint CAI (Century import) marking on the frame and CZ won't touch it. :(

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Never heard of a stainless Pre B.

The edges of the holes for the safety are super rounded off. All mine are nice sharp corners/edges.

I've only stripped the finish (parkerized) off one Pre B and the metal surface of the frame was way smoother than that one.

I wonder if there is anyone willing to work on that frame, especially in that area where it's cracked.

CZ no longer makes the stainless steel CZ75 (bright/shiny or matte finish) pistols.

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Posted: 5/30/2021 12:30:49 PM EDT

[#21]

I had one of the Swiss made CZ clone guns and it had all sorts of issues like this, presumably new from mfg. Unsure who made the frame.

May want to consider sending it off to a CZ custom place and just having it built on a new frame.

Posted: 5/31/2021 1:02:49 AM EDT

[#22]

Too bad. Nice pieces. As mentioned, build on a new frame or even to get something back out of it consider parting out.

Posted: 7/16/2021 11:51:09 PM EDT

[#23]

Send it to Vulcan Gun Restorations in Maidstone, Ontario. They can repair it with laser welding.

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