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Posted: 6/23/2019 6:16:08 PM EDT
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The blue box were production line guns ( and actually equal to what was being supplied to the USMC)
While the pelican case ones came from the custom shop with hand fitting. Take your grips off and you should see ccs engraved on the frame. |
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Posted: 6/23/2019 6:42:41 PM EDT
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Hello . Couple years back I got a blue box colt m45a1 . Because of personal illness I had to sell it . The other day I got a brand new m45a1 with the green pelican box . The green box cost over 400 more then the blue box . Also the green box has checkering on the front strap and comes with one Wilson blued 7-round magazine and also comes with the Otis cleaning kit with the green pelican case . Other than those few differences what makes the green box come worth over $400 more than the blue box I mean is there are significantly more handwork on the green box gun? Americans (particularly historians and kleckturs) haven't had a chance to study new War Colts since the last production was Summer 1945 when no one was kleckting them. We were prepared. Have consecutive low 4 digit Pelicans, a nice retail sales package AYK with lift-out foam tray and bottom tray foam cut-outs. _____________________ Since before public sales began, began amassing photos of some 200 serial numbers including prototypes to research and document details as they emerged. The most dramatic visual differences outside the packaging labeling of EGA, M45 and CQBP (see below in the next post), Pelican Colt's tend to have shiny barrels while early production low-rent Blue Box Colts have satin finish barrels; the inspector stamps are also tend to be different among early versus middle, high 4 digit and later 5 digit production. 
These are the Springfield Armory and Colt prototypes submitted for DoD testing; the Colt is merely a modified Rail Gun, the familiar Weaver rail was abandoned in favor of the very first Picatinny put on a sidearm which requires no mount modification for light, laser, etc. 
Old article on the Marine CQBP 
eta, M45 labeled not M45A1 kreckshun |
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Posted: 6/23/2019 6:42:50 PM EDT
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The blue box were production line guns ( and actually equal to what was being supplied to the USMC) While the pelican case ones came from the custom shop with hand fitting. Take your grips off and you should see ccs engraved on the frame. In your option, is the extra 400+ that I spent on the green box gun worth the premium? I must confess I do.like the front strap checkering ! |
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Posted: 6/23/2019 6:49:26 PM EDT
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Hope you have recovered? Americans (particularly historians and kleckturs) haven't had a chance to study new War Colts since the last production was Summer 1945 when no one was kleckting them. We were prepared. Have consecutive low 4 digit Pelicans, a nice retail sales package AYK with lift-out foam tray and bottom tray foam cut-outs. _____________________ Since before public sales began, began amassing photos of some 200 serial numbers including prototypes to research and document details as they emerged. The most dramatic visual differences outside the packaging labeling of EGA, M45A1 and CQBP (see below in the next post), Pelican Colt's tend to have shiny barrels while early production low-rent Blue Box Colts have satin finish barrels; the inspector stamps are also tend to be different among early versus middle, high 4 digit and later 5 digit production. https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-6dQcR4V/0/cd06acff/X3/i-6dQcR4V-X3.jpg These are the Springfield Armory and Colt prototypes submitted for DoD testing; the Colt is merely a modified Rail Gun, the familiar Weaver rail was abandoned in favor of the very first Picatinny put on a sidearm which requires no mount modification for light, laser, etc. https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-Htx3rBN/0/73b059f6/O/i-Htx3rBN.jpg Old article on the Marine CQBP https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-f2q44b4/0/c438a7bb/O/i-f2q44b4.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Hello . Couple years back I got a blue box colt m45a1 . Because of personal illness I had to sell it . The other day I got a brand new m45a1 with the green pelican box . The green box cost over 400 more then the blue box . Also the green box has checkering on the front strap and comes with one Wilson blued 7-round magazine and also comes with the Otis cleaning kit with the green pelican case . Other than those few differences what makes the green box come worth over $400 more than the blue box I mean is there are significantly more handwork on the green box gun? Americans (particularly historians and kleckturs) haven't had a chance to study new War Colts since the last production was Summer 1945 when no one was kleckting them. We were prepared. Have consecutive low 4 digit Pelicans, a nice retail sales package AYK with lift-out foam tray and bottom tray foam cut-outs. _____________________ Since before public sales began, began amassing photos of some 200 serial numbers including prototypes to research and document details as they emerged. The most dramatic visual differences outside the packaging labeling of EGA, M45A1 and CQBP (see below in the next post), Pelican Colt's tend to have shiny barrels while early production low-rent Blue Box Colts have satin finish barrels; the inspector stamps are also tend to be different among early versus middle, high 4 digit and later 5 digit production. https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-6dQcR4V/0/cd06acff/X3/i-6dQcR4V-X3.jpg These are the Springfield Armory and Colt prototypes submitted for DoD testing; the Colt is merely a modified Rail Gun, the familiar Weaver rail was abandoned in favor of the very first Picatinny put on a sidearm which requires no mount modification for light, laser, etc. https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-Htx3rBN/0/73b059f6/O/i-Htx3rBN.jpg Old article on the Marine CQBP https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-f2q44b4/0/c438a7bb/O/i-f2q44b4.jpg The last doctor to look at me was at the world famous Massachusetts General Hospital, he was a graduate of U Mass , and also a teachers at Harvard and MIT medical schools . His response was there is NO WAY they would operate on me , I will live how I am and that's that . Any way, I am more then impressed with my new Colt and to be perfectly honest with you the front strap checkering feels a lot better in my hand then my old blue box Colt that I had to sell last year. What about as far as the hand fitting from the Colt custom shop is it really worth that much more? I got this gun direct from the distributor at lipsey's I was honestly surprised when I got it then it was quite a bit dirty looks like they put quite a few rounds through it testing it before shipping out it did include a test Target. |
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Posted: 6/23/2019 6:49:36 PM EDT
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The packaging of the EGA Colt's has so far been observed in 2 varieties shown here
M45 and CQBP one destined for civilian sales, the other for military Here is a satin barrel close-up 
These are a mix of boxes and cases with the labeling variables observed  
Pelican grouping photo. $400 is quite a bit for a case, mag and storage but the civilian pistols have gone through the Custom Shop for "fitment" so... why not! 
eta removal duplicate photo |
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Posted: 6/23/2019 6:54:22 PM EDT
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Thank you sir !! In your option, is the extra 400+ that I spent on the green box gun worth the premium? I must confess I do.like the front strap checkering ! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The blue box were production line guns ( and actually equal to what was being supplied to the USMC) While the pelican case ones came from the custom shop with hand fitting. Take your grips off and you should see ccs engraved on the frame. In your option, is the extra 400+ that I spent on the green box gun worth the premium? I must confess I do.like the front strap checkering ! |
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Posted: 6/23/2019 6:57:23 PM EDT
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Recovery? Lol The last doctor to look at me was at the world famous Massachusetts General Hospital, he was a graduate of U Mass , and also a teachers at Harvard and MIT medical schools . His response was there is NO WAY they would operate on me , I will live how I am and that's that . Any way, I am more then impressed with my new Colt and to be perfectly honest with you the front strap checkering feels a lot better in my hand then my old blue box Colt that I had to sell last year. What about as far as the hand fitting from the Colt custom shop is it really worth that much more? I got this gun direct from the distributor at lipsey's I was honestly surprised when I got it then it was quite a bit dirty looks like they put quite a few rounds through it testing it before shipping out it did include a test Target. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Hello . Couple years back I got a blue box colt m45a1 . Because of personal illness I had to sell it . The other day I got a brand new m45a1 with the green pelican box . The green box cost over 400 more then the blue box . Also the green box has checkering on the front strap and comes with one Wilson blued 7-round magazine and also comes with the Otis cleaning kit with the green pelican case . Other than those few differences what makes the green box come worth over $400 more than the blue box I mean is there are significantly more handwork on the green box gun? Americans (particularly historians and kleckturs) haven't had a chance to study new War Colts since the last production was Summer 1945 when no one was kleckting them. We were prepared. Have consecutive low 4 digit Pelicans, a nice retail sales package AYK with lift-out foam tray and bottom tray foam cut-outs. _____________________ Since before public sales began, began amassing photos of some 200 serial numbers including prototypes to research and document details as they emerged. The most dramatic visual differences outside the packaging labeling of EGA, M45A1 and CQBP (see below in the next post), Pelican Colt's tend to have shiny barrels while early production low-rent Blue Box Colts have satin finish barrels; the inspector stamps are also tend to be different among early versus middle, high 4 digit and later 5 digit production. https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-6dQcR4V/0/cd06acff/X3/i-6dQcR4V-X3.jpg These are the Springfield Armory and Colt prototypes submitted for DoD testing; the Colt is merely a modified Rail Gun, the familiar Weaver rail was abandoned in favor of the very first Picatinny put on a sidearm which requires no mount modification for light, laser, etc. https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-Htx3rBN/0/73b059f6/O/i-Htx3rBN.jpg Old article on the Marine CQBP https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-f2q44b4/0/c438a7bb/O/i-f2q44b4.jpg The last doctor to look at me was at the world famous Massachusetts General Hospital, he was a graduate of U Mass , and also a teachers at Harvard and MIT medical schools . His response was there is NO WAY they would operate on me , I will live how I am and that's that . Any way, I am more then impressed with my new Colt and to be perfectly honest with you the front strap checkering feels a lot better in my hand then my old blue box Colt that I had to sell last year. What about as far as the hand fitting from the Colt custom shop is it really worth that much more? I got this gun direct from the distributor at lipsey's I was honestly surprised when I got it then it was quite a bit dirty looks like they put quite a few rounds through it testing it before shipping out it did include a test Target. Wow. Wishing you a long healthy life. If you like it, feels good, it must be good! Shooting confidence comes from the dangest things, not always physical. If you find it that way, keep it... IMHO. 
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Posted: 6/23/2019 8:08:24 PM EDT
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What serial number? None of these have that, only the MSH is serrated. Could it have been added post production? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The blue box were production line guns ( and actually equal to what was being supplied to the USMC) While the pelican case ones came from the custom shop with hand fitting. Take your grips off and you should see ccs engraved on the frame. In your option, is the extra 400+ that I spent on the green box gun worth the premium? I must confess I do.like the front strap checkering ! I have an FFL, and.got it through lipseys one of the largest Firearms wholesalers in the country. Let me try to get a link |
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Posted: 6/23/2019 8:10:01 PM EDT
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Go to lipseys.com
Look this up .COO1070CQB CQB GOV CUST 45ACP FULL FDE 5" 45 ACP UPC: 098289042613 MFG MDL #: O1070CQB MSRP: $2,199.00 |
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Posted: 6/23/2019 9:25:04 PM EDT
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Go to lipseys.com Look this up .COO1070CQB CQB GOV CUST 45ACP FULL FDE 5" 45 ACP UPC: 098289042613 MFG MDL #: O1070CQB MSRP: $2,199.00 thought you were referring to cerakote for a bit. Pretty, very worthy! |
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Posted: 6/23/2019 9:26:25 PM EDT
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Go to lipseys.com Look this up .COO1070CQB CQB GOV CUST 45ACP FULL FDE 5" 45 ACP UPC: 098289042613 MFG MDL #: O1070CQB MSRP: $2,199.00 |
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Posted: 6/23/2019 9:42:52 PM EDT
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Of course.. FDE... thought you were referring to cerakote for a bit. Pretty, very worthy! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Go to lipseys.com Look this up .COO1070CQB CQB GOV CUST 45ACP FULL FDE 5" 45 ACP UPC: 098289042613 MFG MDL #: O1070CQB MSRP: $2,199.00 thought you were referring to cerakote for a bit. Pretty, very worthy! |
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Posted: 6/23/2019 11:41:30 PM EDT
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So these FDE guns are the ion bond Finnish? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Go to lipseys.com Look this up .COO1070CQB CQB GOV CUST 45ACP FULL FDE 5" 45 ACP UPC: 098289042613 MFG MDL #: O1070CQB MSRP: $2,199.00 thought you were referring to cerakote for a bit. Pretty, very worthy! Too bad... would like to see one model blued... |
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Posted: 7/4/2019 6:42:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep, only Mr. Bond from now on Too bad... would like to see one model blued... 
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Posted: 7/9/2019 3:24:51 AM EDT
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The black looks amazing
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Posted: 9/17/2019 12:20:28 AM EDT
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Where did you get the grips on your m45a1’s?
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Posted: 9/17/2019 8:10:26 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/17/2019 8:58:51 PM EDT
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I like mine a lot.
 
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Posted: 9/23/2019 7:45:59 AM EDT
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I wish I could have afforded one of those. Iirc the first batch of them was actually pretty reasonable.
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Posted: 9/25/2019 11:14:19 AM EDT
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Can we get a pic of yours Moka? I would think front strap checkering would explain the extra 400. I'm not sure how much a gunsmith charges to do that though to compare. Of course doing it after the fact would probably include redoing the finish on the frame. So......
Anyways.... love to see it and my vote is the extra 400 was probably worth it for the most part. Especially if you like it. A quick look at what cylinder and slide charges. For 30 LPI it's 330 some odd dollars. https://cylinder-slide.com/index.php?app=ecom&ns=catshow&ref=1911PARAORD3&sid=7tnb4100bh67fu7j1b4i446n2f442a83 |
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Posted: 9/26/2019 8:11:26 PM EDT
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I wish I could have afforded one of those. Iirc the first batch of them was actually pretty reasonable. |
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Posted: 10/1/2019 2:10:00 AM EDT
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I don’t know of any blued M45A1s, but the Custom Shop did produce a limited number of M45A1s with black ion bond. The model # is O1070CQBZ. http://i.imgur.com/XBEMz1P.jpg http://i.imgur.com/1jHnuM7.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Yep, only Mr. Bond from now on Too bad... would like to see one model blued... http://i.imgur.com/XBEMz1P.jpg http://i.imgur.com/1jHnuM7.jpg Mine here in blackout mode with Colt logo VZ grips.  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/4/2019 12:33:25 AM EDT
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Where did you get the grips on your m45a1’s? |
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Posted: 1/12/2020 11:38:51 AM EDT
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I'm the proud owner of one. Although the stock grips don't look like those, they're a night version of the M45A1 grips. Mine here in blackout mode with Colt logo VZ grips. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/99075/1A1C8DFF-8AE4-4311-80D2-301FE9BC821D_jpeg-1108622.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: Yep, only Mr. Bond from now on Too bad... would like to see one model blued... http://i.imgur.com/XBEMz1P.jpg http://i.imgur.com/1jHnuM7.jpg Mine here in blackout mode with Colt logo VZ grips. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/99075/1A1C8DFF-8AE4-4311-80D2-301FE9BC821D_jpeg-1108622.JPG |
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Posted: 1/12/2020 4:19:26 PM EDT
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Did yours come with the front strap checkering ? |
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Posted: 1/12/2020 5:02:42 PM EDT
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Yep, absolutely nothing done to it aside from swapping to Colt-licensed VZ grips. Apparently that whole run of black ionbond ones from CCS came with the checkering. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Did yours come with the front strap checkering ? Mine did not come with checkering ... really would've liked that . |
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Posted: 1/12/2020 5:55:45 PM EDT
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Did yours come with the front strap checkering ? The O1070CQB-Z did not have the front strap checkering and had the light grip panels found on the sand colored pistols. The O1070CQB-B have the front strap checkering and darker grip panels. |
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Posted: 1/15/2020 8:57:05 PM EDT
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That's cool ! Mine did not come with checkering ... really would've liked that . Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Did yours come with the front strap checkering ? Mine did not come with checkering ... really would've liked that .
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