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IA, USA
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Posted: 8/30/2022 12:54:37 PM EST
CMP 1911 Third Round opens 9/1, closes 9/30. Info at CMP website. The process is a bit convoluted but it does work. One per lifetime, but not per household.
I got in on the first round and was happy with what I got. |
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Posted: 8/30/2022 1:02:17 PM EST
[#1]
I definitely want to try to get one, but I've never dealt with the CMP before. Can you explain the process?
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IA, USA
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Posted: 8/30/2022 1:10:02 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By txtj79: I definitely want to try to get one, but I've never dealt with the CMP before. Can you explain the process? There's a packet you need to fill out. Part of it needs notarized. Must be a member of a CMP affiliated club, Garand Collectors Assoc qualifies. All the info is on their website. It's a bit intimidating at first glance but read carefully and take your time. Proof read everything. If it isn't right they won't process it. Just remember CMP is a quasi governmental agency and you'll understand the mind set. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 8/30/2022 1:36:36 PM EST
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Really want one, the pricing is still a hard pill to swallow.
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IA, USA
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Posted: 8/30/2022 1:51:36 PM EST
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fredegar: Really want one, the pricing is still a hard pill to swallow. They bumped them $100 this round. Still a good price for a real deal USGI 1911. You won't find one any cheaper. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 8/30/2022 2:41:28 PM EST
[Last Edit: K1rodeoboater]
[#5]
The "range grade" ones will be a whole mixed bag of interesting guns. Likely some NM modified guns as well as some GWOT returns if I had to guess.
Service Grade $1250. Pistol may exhibit minor pitting and wear on exterior surfaces and friction surfaces. Grips are complete with no cracks. Pistol is in issuable condition. Pistols may contain commercial parts. Field Grade $1150. Pistol may exhibit minor rust, pitting, and wear on exterior surfaces and friction surfaces. Grips are complete with no cracks. Pistol is in issuable condition. Pistols may contain commercial parts. Rack Grade $1050. Pistol will exhibit rust, pitting, and wear on exterior surfaces and friction surfaces. Grips may be incomplete and exhibit cracks. Pistol requires minor work to return to issuable condition but is functional. Pistols may contain commercial parts. Range Grade $1100. These are 1911 pistols for those that want a part of history and a shooter, not a collectable. These are 1911s that have been modified in some way, and may have some commercial parts. No two (2) pistols are alike, the modifications / parts could be any of the following: Night Sights, extended Beaver Tail, Rubber Grips, Barrels, Oversized Slide Release, Target Triggers, Adjustable Rear Sights, Tactical Match Hammer, Competition Grip Safety, Sight Rib, Slides, Checkered Front Strap, Ambidextrous Safety, Different Finishes. Some of the manufactures of these parts are: Bar-Sto, Wilson, Ed Brown, Pachmayer, Hogue, Caspian and Bomar. Auction Grade (Sales will to be determined by auctioning the pistol). The condition of the auction pistol will be described when posted for auction. |
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Posted: 8/30/2022 2:46:24 PM EST
[#6]
That's a $200 bump in price. Glad I got mine when I did.
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IA, USA
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Posted: 8/30/2022 2:48:05 PM EST
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By redleg13a: That's a $200 bump in price. Glad I got mine when I did. You're right. Been a couple years since I got mine. Had to look up what I paid. |
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Posted: 8/30/2022 7:03:17 PM EST
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Range Grade $1100. These are 1911 pistols for those that want a part of history and a shooter, "not a collectable"
Not collectable?!? I beg to differ. As I read online from those that posted the info they received via FOIA request from their round 1/2 1911's. Man, I'd be thrilled to get a bonafide MEUSOC. Or some other badassery SpeOps duty pistol. That would be hella "collectable" to me. And I was just a C-130 crew chief a long, long, time ago. In a galaxy far, far away. I missed out on round 1 and 2. Ain't missin' this one! I'm stoked! |
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Posted: 8/31/2022 9:58:20 AM EST
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The price increase is ridiculous.
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Posted: 8/31/2022 10:42:14 AM EST
[#10]
While having "a piece of history" would be great, I can't afford that much on a gun like that, especially since there's no way to know if you're going to get a "working" pistol or a pistol that's display worthy...
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Posted: 8/31/2022 12:10:27 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GHPorter: While having "a piece of history" would be great, I can't afford that much on a gun like that, especially since there's no way to know if you're going to get a "working" pistol or a pistol that's display worthy... Considering your certifications, I'd say that is a profound statement. One I shall have to ponder. I couldn't afford to get one during the first two rounds. But dangit! Every picture posted of any of the 3 grades available looked like something I'd be happy to own. I don't recall reading anyone that had ended up with a bad one from the first two rounds. I still shouldn't spend that kind of money. At least I'll have time to wait and think about it. Meanwhile I'll fantasize about being lucky enough to end up with a MEUSOC 1911, so it too can sit in the safe next to the clone I built earlier this year. |
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Posted: 8/31/2022 5:54:02 PM EST
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No repeat buyers huh? Oh well, I was really happy with my Round 2 matching Remington Rand Rack Grade. Maybe my Army son can get one.
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Posted: 8/31/2022 6:37:46 PM EST
[#13]
I've got my paperwork package ready. I'll send it off tomorrow.
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IA, USA
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Posted: 8/31/2022 6:44:27 PM EST
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TOTHEMAX: The price increase is ridiculous. Been to the grocery store lately? They’re still well under market for USGI 1911. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 8/31/2022 7:04:47 PM EST
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GHPorter: While having "a piece of history" would be great, I can't afford that much on a gun like that, especially since there's no way to know if you're going to get a "working" pistol or a pistol that's display worthy... I've not seen any reports of non functional guns but I've not been tracking cmp forums or round 1/2 all that closely. I have seen a lot of cmp forum snobbery - but that comes with the crowd and they're the minority of collectors/shooters over there. |
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Posted: 8/31/2022 7:15:04 PM EST
[#16]
Working as in “it’s safe to fire.”
I can spend less than $400 and get a baseline 1911 that has zero rounds through it, will have no hidden frame issues, and will have a (possibly minimal, but definitely there) warranty. For a beater/shooter 1911, spending three times as much as that for “luck of the draw”, maybe a rarity but maybe just one of a zillion, that has 50,000 rounds through it and not mag particle inspected for hidden frame cracks just doesn’t make sense for me. |
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Posted: 8/31/2022 7:51:20 PM EST
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A respectable view point @GHPorter
I'm just a hopin' anda wishin' to getta historic 1911 that's better than what I currently own.......  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/31/2022 7:52:46 PM EST
[#18]
And no I didn't do that to the Remington Rand. Some other Bubba-Smith did.
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NH, USA
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Posted: 8/31/2022 7:57:33 PM EST
[#19]
Jesus, I just looked at the forms...even trying to find a club is a convoluted horror show. Not worth the bother.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 8/31/2022 8:50:30 PM EST
[#20]
Half the fun of these threads is reading the "Not worth the money." and "Too many hoops to jump through." posts
 20 years ago I jumped through the hoops quite a few times. This was the result. 
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 8/31/2022 8:52:47 PM EST
[#21]
The order forms are no big deal. The club requirement is easy. Garand collectors association glock shooting sports foundation, state rifle and pistol association among others.
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Posted: 8/31/2022 11:33:18 PM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HighlanderI: And no I didn't do that to the Remington Rand. Some other Bubba-Smith did. Jesus wept. |
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Posted: 9/1/2022 3:04:30 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cayman_shen: Jesus, I just looked at the forms...even trying to find a club is a convoluted horror show. Not worth the bother. Seriously! Talk about being full of themselves. I’m a taxpayer. I already paid for all that and the process. Just raise the price another hundred per grade and that will be the current price shipped to the FFL of whomever clicks the buy button online. |
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Posted: 9/1/2022 3:14:13 AM EST
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnRippert: Half the fun of these threads is reading the "Not worth the money." and "Too many hoops to jump through." posts 20 years ago I jumped through the hoops quite a few times. This was the result. https://images2.imgbox.com/da/f1/4X111ddR_o.jpg Those comments always get me. I worked with a guy who would ask me once or twice a year if I wanted to sell a Garand, where to buy one etc...I'd always say CMP.. He'd say " Too complicated ". Including the trip to the notary it's like 20 minutes total of your time. I wish the CMP would open up the auctions to buyers in previous rounds. |
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Posted: 9/1/2022 6:21:10 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HenryKnoxFineBooks: Jesus wept. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HenryKnoxFineBooks: Originally Posted By HighlanderI: And no I didn't do that to the Remington Rand. Some other Bubba-Smith did. Jesus wept. And the Angel's harps fell silent.... |
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Posted: 9/1/2022 10:25:41 AM EST
[#26]
My wife wants one this round so I'm helping her.
No serious, she really wants one. Haha. Mailing paperwork off today. Fingers crossed! |
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Posted: 9/1/2022 11:11:09 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By drfroglegs: My wife wants one this round so I'm helping her. No serious, she really wants one. Haha. Mailing paperwork off today. Fingers crossed! G'Luck!!! |
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IA, USA
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Posted: 9/1/2022 11:41:42 AM EST
[#28]
I unfortunately no longer have a wife. Or maybe that is fortunate.
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Posted: 9/1/2022 11:46:49 AM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By drfroglegs: My wife wants one this round so I'm helping her. No serious, she really wants one. Haha. Mailing paperwork off today. Fingers crossed! I next day aired the application today. Since today was the first day to postmark, and it will be delivered tomorrow, hopefully she will get a low number. I mailed mine off in round 2 on the last day thinking it wouldn't matter because of the "random number generator" but boy was I wrong. Just got it a month or so ago. |
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Posted: 9/1/2022 3:38:05 PM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By drfroglegs: I next day aired the application today. Since today was the first day to postmark, and it will be delivered tomorrow, hopefully she will get a low number. I mailed mine off in round 2 on the last day thinking it wouldn't matter because of the "random number generator" but boy was I wrong. Just got it a month or so ago. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By drfroglegs: Originally Posted By drfroglegs: My wife wants one this round so I'm helping her. No serious, she really wants one. Haha. Mailing paperwork off today. Fingers crossed! I next day aired the application today. Since today was the first day to postmark, and it will be delivered tomorrow, hopefully she will get a low number. I mailed mine off in round 2 on the last day thinking it wouldn't matter because of the "random number generator" but boy was I wrong. Just got it a month or so ago. Yeah, round 2 wasn’t very random when my girlfriend and I had random numbers right next to each other. I’d put in for another if they let me. I’m very happy with my Field Grade Colt/Colt. Did get screwed on the case though, as their supply of the nice tan cases ran out when our numbers came up. Wasn’t the ffl either as we got the same black case, but had different ffl’s. FOIA results show it was with the Navy from 1978 to 2009 And just because everyone loves photos:   |
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Posted: 9/2/2022 9:03:51 AM EST
[#31]
Like a dummy my packet arrived at CMP on 9/1/22 and was immediately destroyed. My fault as they state must be postmarked no earlier than 9/1/22. Oh well I was on the fence anyway I guess I'm out on a technicality
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Posted: 9/2/2022 10:20:42 AM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rod727: Like a dummy my packet arrived at CMP on 9/1/22 and was immediately destroyed. My fault as they state must be postmarked no earlier than 9/1/22. Oh well I was on the fence anyway I guess I'm out on a technicality Just send another packet. You’ll kick yourself more down the road if you don’t get one. |
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Posted: 9/2/2022 4:06:57 PM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnRippert: Half the fun of these threads is reading the "Not worth the money." and "Too many hoops to jump through." posts I'm not saying that they're not worth the money. Just the history wrapped up in those 1911s is priceless. But... The way the 1911 program is set up, the way it doesn't mention how many pistols are available, how the different grades are distributed among those pistols, and the rest of the steps they've taken to make the process "fair" for each potential buyer are all big downers for me. It's all "maybe" and "possibly," and honestly, I have too much else going on in real life to get excited about these pistols. I'm happy to let other folks get stoked about them, and I'll be happy for them when they get their pistols. Good luck to all! |
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Posted: 9/2/2022 11:16:49 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GHPorter: I'm not saying that they're not worth the money. Just the history wrapped up in those 1911s is priceless. But... The way the 1911 program is set up, the way it doesn't mention how many pistols are available, how the different grades are distributed among those pistols, and the rest of the steps they've taken to make the process "fair" for each potential buyer are all big downers for me. It's all "maybe" and "possibly," and honestly, I have too much else going on in real life to get excited about these pistols. I'm happy to let other folks get stoked about them, and I'll be happy for them when they get their pistols. Good luck to all! A good portion of that information was published in a report for the government regarding the CMP selling the 1911's. I posted a link the in the Round 2 thread about a year ago. They list all the 1911's available and the grades given to them in the military inventory system. Here's a link to that post Here's a link to the report, 1911 numbers begin on page 127 I still haven't bought a geiger counter yet to see if my round 1 gun is radioactive. I think it would go great with this:  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/3/2022 8:41:52 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kbailey3: A good portion of that information was published in a report for the government regarding the CMP selling the 1911's. I posted a link the in the Round 2 thread about a year ago. They list all the 1911's available and the grades given to them in the military inventory system. Here's a link to that post Here's a link to the report, 1911 numbers begin on page 127 I still haven't bought a geiger counter yet to see if my round 1 gun is radioactive. I think it would go great with this: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/106977/20170422_175212_jpg-2512535.JPG I had missed your post entirely. I'm very impressed by the RAND study demonstrating that CMP saves the Army money - a LOT of it - through the 1911 program. |
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NM, USA
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Posted: 9/10/2022 5:27:26 PM EST
[#36]
Best of luck to everyone in round 3. I got mine in round 2, service grade Colt / RR which I traded into a Colt / Colt. I fucking love it. I would get another one if they would let me.
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IL, USA
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Posted: 9/12/2022 8:44:59 AM EST
[Last Edit: KingC]
[#37]
Originally Posted By Ameshawki: CMP 1911 Third Round opens 9/1, closes 9/30. Info at CMP website. The process is a bit convoluted but it does work. One per lifetime, but not per household. I got in on the first round and was happy with what I got. Nice!
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Posted: 9/12/2022 3:02:23 PM EST
[#38]
will your packet show up in my estore account like my M1 garand orders?
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Posted: 9/14/2022 5:35:29 AM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By inmyshadow: will your packet show up in my estore account like my M1 garand orders? |
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Posted: 9/14/2022 7:45:39 AM EST
[#40]
The CMP 1911 Program is run separately within CMP, so you will not see any updates in the e-store under your account name.
Every communication is by email or phone or both. Good luck. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 9/15/2022 1:27:09 AM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kbailey3: A good portion of that information was published in a report for the government regarding the CMP selling the 1911's. I posted a link the in the Round 2 thread about a year ago. They list all the 1911's available and the grades given to them in the military inventory system. Here's a link to that post Here's a link to the report, 1911 numbers begin on page 127 I still haven't bought a geiger counter yet to see if my round 1 gun is radioactive. I think it would go great with this: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/106977/20170422_175212_jpg-2512535.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kbailey3: Originally Posted By GHPorter: I'm not saying that they're not worth the money. Just the history wrapped up in those 1911s is priceless. But... The way the 1911 program is set up, the way it doesn't mention how many pistols are available, how the different grades are distributed among those pistols, and the rest of the steps they've taken to make the process "fair" for each potential buyer are all big downers for me. It's all "maybe" and "possibly," and honestly, I have too much else going on in real life to get excited about these pistols. I'm happy to let other folks get stoked about them, and I'll be happy for them when they get their pistols. Good luck to all! A good portion of that information was published in a report for the government regarding the CMP selling the 1911's. I posted a link the in the Round 2 thread about a year ago. They list all the 1911's available and the grades given to them in the military inventory system. Here's a link to that post Here's a link to the report, 1911 numbers begin on page 127 I still haven't bought a geiger counter yet to see if my round 1 gun is radioactive. I think it would go great with this: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/106977/20170422_175212_jpg-2512535.JPG Cool picture and collection of Trinitite! I visited the Trinity Site back in 2019 and it was an amazing experience. Despite what your picture may proclaim, Trinitite is easy to obtain out there at the site and can be found laying all around the site if you look hard enough. |
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Posted: 10/3/2022 2:18:42 PM EST
[#42]
My wife got her RGN today. She is 33xxx.
She also got a phone call, but hasnt had a chance to call them back. |
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Posted: 10/3/2022 2:39:56 PM EST
[#43]
I got my RGN today as well, # 34908.
Several folks on the CMP forums have already been contacted with no RGN assigned. All grades available currently. |
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Posted: 10/3/2022 2:48:14 PM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmokeEater2: I got my RGN today as well, # 34908. Several folks on the CMP forums have already been contacted with no RGN assigned. All grades available currently. Damn. My wife is going to be so happy and pissed. I figured we would have more time to save $$. Looks like it's going to have to go on credit card. 
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Posted: 10/3/2022 2:59:49 PM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By drfroglegs: Damn. My wife is going to be so happy and pissed. I figured we would have more time to save $$. Looks like it's going to have to go on credit card. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By drfroglegs: Originally Posted By SmokeEater2: I got my RGN today as well, # 34908. Several folks on the CMP forums have already been contacted with no RGN assigned. All grades available currently. Damn. My wife is going to be so happy and pissed. I figured we would have more time to save $$. Looks like it's going to have to go on credit card. I feel your pain, The card's gonna' squeal. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 10/3/2022 3:17:10 PM EST
[#46]
Received my RGN today. Anybody care to comment on the best grade to choose for a respectable USGI 1911? I automatically assumed service grade would be the best pick but after reading a few posts I’m not so sure.
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Posted: 10/3/2022 3:20:58 PM EST
[#47]
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WY, USA
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Posted: 10/3/2022 3:27:03 PM EST
[Last Edit: Aerospace_Money]
[#48]
Submitted mine the last week of the month, got number 35xxx. Im skeptical of this 'randomness'.
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IA, USA
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Posted: 10/3/2022 7:02:45 PM EST
[#49]
What are you skeptical of exactly? Do you think you should have an earlier RGN? I submitted mine on 9/8 and got RGN 337XX. My wife submitted hers on the 29th and hasn’t received a RGN.
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Posted: 10/3/2022 7:03:45 PM EST
[#50]
I was excited to receive my number today. It meant I was able to follow instructions correctly, not having to wait for the next round.
I was more excited when I started seeing people getting called with RGNs very close to mine, 33462. I'm hoping for a service grade. |
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