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Posted: 12/28/2022 3:23:55 PM EDT
[#1]
What is this hump of you speak?
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Posted: 12/28/2022 4:21:58 PM EDT
[#2]
I believe this is what he is asking about.
92fs  92 Vertec 
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Posted: 12/28/2022 4:25:19 PM EDT
[#3]
Its preference. Most people love the way a flat mainspring (flat backstrap) points. I personally like it because it doesn’t require me to point my wrists as forward. It’s amusing that whenever people build Glocks with aftermarket frames or get heavy into modifications to the frame they often remove the heel bump so it points differently in the hand.
Think of all of the guns besides the Luger and Glock that have such an exaggerated grip angle or grip angle heel hump that have caught on massively…..not many. Meanwhile the Springfield Xd, SW MP pistols, 1911s, Sigs, HKs, high end Berettas like the M9A3, Canik, CZ pistols. Most people when they customize the gun extensively don’t usually choose to have a heel bump. Not saying that’s set in stone but many for a combat handgun don’t prefer it when they modify every part to make the gun tailored exactly as they want it. The heel bump makes the muzzle point more upward than a flat heel. Most people live with it but when they have the opportunity they often prefer to change it. Glock would sell a billion more pistols if they got rid of the heel bump, but they’re slow to catch onto what the market wants, unlike Ruger and Smith and Wesson. With all that said the bump on the Beretta isn’t bad at all because it doesn’t come out very far. Here is what I’m talking about:  Attached File Attached FileThe Glock comes out back behind the frame and breaks the straight line of the backstrap. The Beretta doesn’t do that, so it won’t point as high as the Glock. |
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Posted: 12/28/2022 4:33:40 PM EDT
[#4]
W/O (Vertec).
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Posted: 12/28/2022 4:58:57 PM EDT
[#5]
Thanks for the feedback.
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Posted: 12/28/2022 4:59:50 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Its preference. Most people love the way a flat mainspring (flat backstrap) points. I personally like it because it doesn’t require me to point my wrists as forward. It’s amusing that whenever people build Glocks with aftermarket frames or get heavy into modifications to the frame they often remove the heel bump so it points differently in the hand. Think of all of the guns besides the Luger and Glock that have such an exaggerated grip angle or grip angle heel hump that have caught on massively…..not many. Meanwhile the Springfield Xd, SW MP pistols, 1911s, Sigs, HKs, high end Berettas like the M9A3, Canik, CZ pistols. Most people when they customize the gun extensively don’t usually choose to have a heel bump. Not saying that’s set in stone but many for a combat handgun don’t prefer it when they modify every part to make the gun tailored exactly as they want it. The heel bump makes the muzzle point more upward than a flat heel. Most people live with it but when they have the opportunity they often prefer to change it. Glock would sell a billion more pistols if they got rid of the heel bump, but they’re slow to catch onto what the market wants, unlike Ruger and Smith and Wesson. With all that said the bump on the Beretta isn’t bad at all because it doesn’t come out very far. Here is what I’m talking about: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/253058/4CEF6560-B79D-4575-9B2F-9182197E71FD_jpe-2652038.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/253058/3F61605F-F448-4304-9908-3782E9AC9552_jpe-2652039.JPG The Glock comes out back behind the frame and breaks the straight line of the backstrap. The Beretta doesn’t do that, so it won’t point as high as the Glock. Thanks for taking the time to write up an in-depth reply. (and with pictures  )
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Posted: 12/28/2022 5:09:39 PM EDT
[#7]
without
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Posted: 12/28/2022 5:15:06 PM EDT
[#8]
I prefer the looks of the standard 92 with “hump” but I prefer to shoot my vertec.
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Posted: 12/28/2022 7:26:22 PM EDT
[#9]
I prefer the original frame with the hump, checkering on front and backstraps, and thin G10 grips. All personal preference though.
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Posted: 12/28/2022 9:09:26 PM EDT
[#10]
I've owned and shot both types and I prefer the vertec grip personally.
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Posted: 12/28/2022 9:17:48 PM EDT
[#11]
I prefer the original frame shape (w/ “hump”), but I also prefer the Elite/M9A1 style w/ checkering front and rear and a set of thin G10 grips. Langdon’s LTT is perfect, IMO.
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Posted: 12/28/2022 9:27:17 PM EDT
[#12]
I like both.
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Posted: 12/29/2022 4:01:15 AM EDT
[#13]
Original over the Vertec for me.
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Posted: 12/29/2022 1:47:29 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: W/O (Vertec). Vertec is my personal favorite. |
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Posted: 12/29/2022 11:35:24 PM EDT
[#15]
Glad to help!
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Posted: 12/30/2022 2:05:57 PM EDT
[#16]
I own both, but prefer the 92x/Vertec grip style better. Coincides with my 1911's grip.
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Posted: 12/30/2022 9:50:27 PM EDT
[#17]
Own a few of both. Can't really tell the difference unless I pick them up side by side.
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Posted: 12/30/2022 9:58:31 PM EDT
[#18]
I like the hump for the transition from DA to SA. It works for me.
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Posted: 12/30/2022 11:11:10 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I like both. Same here. |
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Posted: 12/30/2022 11:49:25 PM EDT
[#20]
I’m indifferent. A decent shooter can pick up any handgun and shoot it well regardless of grip geometry.
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Posted: 12/31/2022 3:21:45 PM EDT
[#21]
I have a 92x and I hate the straight back strap. I use the 'hump' grips it came with.
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Posted: 12/31/2022 3:48:40 PM EDT
[#22]
I have large hands, I prefer the hump.
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Posted: 12/31/2022 4:46:06 PM EDT
[#23]
I have both, and surprisingly like both. If I’m shooting for fun, I’ll take the M9. If I’m worried about making a quick and solid grip to draw from concealment and find a red dot, 92X (vertec).
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Posted: 1/1/2023 1:01:23 PM EDT
[#24]
Vertec grip all day every day. So much more comfortable And Beretta makes a wrap around rubber grip to add the hump to the grip if you want it. You can’t take it away on a regular 92
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Posted: 1/3/2023 4:22:34 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Original over the Vertec for me. |
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Posted: 1/5/2023 8:08:26 PM EDT
[#26]
I’ve owned numerous versions of both styles. I’ve come to the conclusion that the vertec style is not my favorite. I can shoot it ok, but I do not like it.
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Posted: 1/7/2023 10:10:16 PM EDT
[#27]
Did not like the 92, then handled a vertec…now I want
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Posted: 1/12/2023 2:32:06 AM EDT
[#28]
vertec. for full on john wick install the langdon upgrades.
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Posted: 1/16/2023 12:16:51 PM EDT
[#29]
Grip is very much a matter of personal taste, but I have a muscle that controls my thumb that rests perfectly within the contour of an arched backstrap. I don't think I've ever seen anyone with perfectly "flat" hands.
M1911 --> M1911A1 was an improvement. S&W M39 --> M59 Beretta M9 --> Vertec SIG P226 --> P226E2 ...were all steps backwards in ergonomics. In my opinion, the most desirable Beretta frames (after the frame mounted safety models) were the 92-series with straight dust cover (M9-style) and high radius backstrap relief. I snagged one off of GB like I was getting a secret deal that only I knew about... and that's my main Beretta (G model too!). |
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Posted: 1/20/2023 3:38:25 AM EDT
[#30]
I prefer the original grip over the Vertex grip angle. The Vertex isn’t bad, but it’s an individual p’s preference.
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Posted: 1/21/2023 5:38:07 AM EDT
[#31]
With. I can’t explain it but I shoot an old school 92 better than anything.
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Posted: 1/21/2023 3:47:38 PM EDT
[#32]
That's something you're going to have to figure out for yourself? Even if everyone here tells you to go with the original, that doesn't mean squat if the Vertec frame works better for you.
For instance, I hate "arched" mainspring housings on 1911s and I'm not a fan of the "hump" on the Glock backstraps either so I was sure I'd prefer the Vertec frames over the originals but that wasn't the case. On the Beretta's, I prefer the original frame. Go figure. Like that annoying Coke commercial... "You have to try it first" (which BTW I did and coke zero is nasty! 
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Posted: 1/30/2023 12:44:52 PM EDT
[#33]
Vertec all day for me
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Posted: 1/30/2023 3:52:01 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/31/2023 11:07:00 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's something you're going to have to figure out for yourself? Even if everyone here tells you to go with the original, that doesn't mean squat if the Vertec frame works better for you. For instance, I hate "arched" mainspring housings on 1911s and I'm not a fan of the "hump" on the Glock backstraps either so I was sure I'd prefer the Vertec frames over the originals but that wasn't the case. On the Beretta's, I prefer the original frame. Go figure. Like that annoying Coke commercial... "You have to try it first" (which BTW I did and coke zero is nasty! This is me. Flat 1911 MSH, no glock's, but OG 92. |
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