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Posted: 1/10/2023 1:59:51 AM EDT
[Last Edit: K1rodeoboater]
Figures is ask since I'm considering getting one of these as a representative of a HiPower in my collection. I know their Beretta 92 clone locking block and frame are just different enough not to be compatible with Berettas.
Update Went to go pick up a transfer at lunch and saw they had a MCP-35 on sale. That damn transfer cost me $400! It's the tan painted version and not the black like I wanted originally, but hey I got to check off two bucket list guns. A CZ-75 and a HiPower  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/10/2023 2:29:44 AM EDT
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Gunsmith told me they are to spec with the original parts so parts are interchangeable.
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Posted: 1/10/2023 3:44:22 AM EDT
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Pm sent.
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Posted: 1/10/2023 10:33:17 AM EDT
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Try the trigger before you buy and compare it to the SA-35.
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Posted: 1/25/2023 12:03:46 AM EDT
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It's a 100% clone. Remove the mag trigger disconnect for a better trigger feel.
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Posted: 1/25/2023 12:32:05 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By K1rodeoboater: Figures is ask since I'm considering getting one of these as a representative of a HiPower in my collection. I know their Beretta 92 clone locking block and frame are just different enough not to be compatible with Berettas.  I thought the Girsan wasn't compatible w/ the latest Beretta locking block, but was w/ earlier ones? The Taurus PT92 takes Beretta locking blocks, no?
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Posted: 3/7/2023 7:54:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: I thought the Girsan wasn't compatible w/ the latest Beretta locking block, but was w/ earlier ones? The Taurus PT92 takes Beretta locking blocks, no? |
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Posted: 4/15/2023 10:35:23 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/21/2023 7:35:00 AM EDT
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So what is the consensus on these? Good to go and close to original close enough like Hungarian??
Sitting on the fence to get one - So many inexpensive pistols out there hard to get just one and need to make a list of priority of purchases : ) |
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Posted: 4/23/2023 8:41:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cherenkov: So what is the consensus on these? Good to go and close to original close enough like Hungarian?? Sitting on the fence to get one - So many inexpensive pistols out there hard to get just one and need to make a list of priority of purchases : ) 100% mine was an impulse purchase. Didn't expect to buy one that day. The shop I got it from was blowing them out because they weren't moving compared to the rest of their inventory. |
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Posted: 4/23/2023 9:09:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By K1rodeoboater: @cherenkov watch the BHPspringsolutions YT playlist on them. Keep in mind he sells BHP specific products so he's going to highlight the deficiencies and "his solutions" to them. He does do a thorough analysis of them though just understand the slant. 100% mine was an impulse purchase. Didn't expect to buy one that day. The shop I got it from was blowing them out because they weren't moving compared to the rest of their inventory. Thank you for the information - very informative videos. Seems like a decent deal. |
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Posted: 4/23/2023 9:21:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By K1rodeoboater: @cherenkov watch the BHPspringsolutions YT playlist on them. Keep in mind he sells BHP specific products so he's going to highlight the deficiencies and "his solutions" to them. He does do a thorough analysis of them though just understand the slant. 100% mine was an impulse purchase. Didn't expect to buy one that day. The shop I got it from was blowing them out because they weren't moving compared to the rest of their inventory. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By K1rodeoboater: Originally Posted By cherenkov: So what is the consensus on these? Good to go and close to original close enough like Hungarian?? Sitting on the fence to get one - So many inexpensive pistols out there hard to get just one and need to make a list of priority of purchases : ) 100% mine was an impulse purchase. Didn't expect to buy one that day. The shop I got it from was blowing them out because they weren't moving compared to the rest of their inventory. That's why FN dropped it in the first place... |
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Posted: 4/23/2023 12:52:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: K1rodeoboater]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: That's why FN dropped it in the first place... A. A shop that's packed to the gills and organization is an after thought. I had seen them in the case with rare/old/collectibles like vintage S&Ws, vintage 1911s, etc. It was out of place. When I found this, it was 9-10' up above that case on a board with a bunch of other "clearance" guns. Caniks were all up there too B. Price on the tag for everything is too high, the owner flat out says ask what he can do before pulling out the card/cash....but suckers who don't know this pay full price. C. Their clientele generally want a Glock fo-tay or video game inspired guns. Their old/unique stuff sits forever. They move a ton of modern guns though. Its a "pawnshop" that does 95% guns. Interesting place to mill about. |
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Posted: 4/23/2023 9:08:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By K1rodeoboater: Here I'm gonna go with A. A shop that's packed to the gills and organization is an after thought. I had seen them in the case with rare/old/collectibles like vintage S&Ws, vintage 1911s, etc. It was out of place. When I found this, it was 9-10' up above that case on a board with a bunch of other "clearance" guns. Caniks were all up there too B. Price on the tag for everything is too high, the owner flat out says ask what he can do before pulling out the card/cash....but suckers who don't know this pay full price. C. Their clientele generally want a Glock fo-tay or video game inspired guns. Their old/unique stuff sits forever. They move a ton of modern guns though. Its a "pawnshop" that does 95% guns. Interesting place to mill about. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By K1rodeoboater: Originally Posted By backbencher: That's why FN dropped it in the first place... Here I'm gonna go with A. A shop that's packed to the gills and organization is an after thought. I had seen them in the case with rare/old/collectibles like vintage S&Ws, vintage 1911s, etc. It was out of place. When I found this, it was 9-10' up above that case on a board with a bunch of other "clearance" guns. Caniks were all up there too B. Price on the tag for everything is too high, the owner flat out says ask what he can do before pulling out the card/cash....but suckers who don't know this pay full price. C. Their clientele generally want a Glock fo-tay or video game inspired guns. Their old/unique stuff sits forever. They move a ton of modern guns though. Its a "pawnshop" that does 95% guns. Interesting place to mill about. My point was that the HiPower has seen its day and is outclassed by more modern designs from the CZ-75 onward. Even modern hammer fired guns are based on the CZ or the 1911, not the patents kluge of the HiPower that John Moses Browning (PBUH) made work. |
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Posted: 4/26/2023 6:38:16 AM EDT
[Last Edit: cherenkov]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: My point was that the HiPower has seen its day and is outclassed by more modern designs from the CZ-75 onward. Even modern hammer fired guns are based on the CZ or the 1911, not the patents kluge of the HiPower that John Moses Browning (PBUH) made work. "Patents Kludge" made me laugh and nearly spit out my coffee. That is perhaps the best (and funniest) description of the High Power's design. It was Browning/FN trying to run around Browning patents. Despite its design being obsolete and awkward- love High Powers for some reason and tend to buy them and good clones when I can. |
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Posted: 4/26/2023 6:46:52 AM EDT
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Love mine (tan)
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Posted: 4/26/2023 10:00:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cherenkov: "Patents Kludge" made me laugh and nearly spit out my coffee. That is perhaps the best (and funniest) description of the High Power's design. It was Browning/FN trying to run around Browning patents. Despite its design being obsolete and awkward- love High Powers for some reason and tend to buy them and good clones when I can. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cherenkov: Originally Posted By backbencher: My point was that the HiPower has seen its day and is outclassed by more modern designs from the CZ-75 onward. Even modern hammer fired guns are based on the CZ or the 1911, not the patents kluge of the HiPower that John Moses Browning (PBUH) made work. "Patents Kludge" made me laugh and nearly spit out my coffee. That is perhaps the best (and funniest) description of the High Power's design. It was Browning/FN trying to run around Browning patents. Despite its design being obsolete and awkward- love High Powers for some reason and tend to buy them and good clones when I can. I would love to own one or any decent clone, my late FIL left a couple, one with a stock. I'm not going to pretend the SA trigger is a better design than perhaps its direct descendant, the CZ-75 - but the CZ-75 doesn't have the historic significance, nor is available in the US w/ a stock w/o a tax stamp attached. |
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Posted: 4/26/2023 4:27:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: K1rodeoboater]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: I would love to own one or any decent clone, my late FIL left a couple, one with a stock. I'm not going to pretend the SA trigger is a better design than perhaps its direct descendant, the CZ-75 - but the CZ-75 doesn't have the historic significance, nor is available in the US w/ a stock w/o a tax stamp attached. |
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Posted: 5/9/2023 5:10:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: -OdieGreen-]
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Pewpewview on YT had the firing pin on his break and stick, then shoot out the back of the gun. He’s lucky it protruded far enough to over ride the next cartridge or it would have grenaded in his face.
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Posted: 5/9/2023 6:09:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -OdieGreen-: Pewpewview on YT had the firing pin on his break and stick, then shoot out the back of the gun. He’s lucky it protruded far enough to over ride the next cartridge or it would have grenaded in his face. Not really. It could have OOBd, but that's going to send brass out the ejection port, not blow the slide up. |
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Posted: 5/9/2023 6:24:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: -OdieGreen-]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: Not really. It could have OOBd, but that's going to send brass out the ejection port, not blow the slide up. I think you’re grossly under estimating the potential impact of an out of battery detonation. I’ve never heard of an example where it just sent brass out of the ejection port. Often times they total the gun out, and in some cases injure the shooter. |
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Posted: 5/9/2023 8:35:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -OdieGreen-: I think you’re grossly under estimating the potential impact of an out of battery detonation. I’ve never heard of an example where it just sent brass out of the ejection port. Often times they total the gun out, and in some cases injure the shooter. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -OdieGreen-: Originally Posted By backbencher: Not really. It could have OOBd, but that's going to send brass out the ejection port, not blow the slide up. I think you’re grossly under estimating the potential impact of an out of battery detonation. I’ve never heard of an example where it just sent brass out of the ejection port. Often times they total the gun out, and in some cases injure the shooter. In 9x19mm? It can drop gas down the magwell and injure the shooter that way, but that's generally a bbl obstruction which is much more dangerous. In an OOB, you may not even get the bullet down the bbl or have complete combustion. |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 10:40:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: In 9x19mm? It can drop gas down the magwell and injure the shooter that way, but that's generally a bbl obstruction which is much more dangerous. In an OOB, you may not even get the bullet down the bbl or have complete combustion. It all depends on how far in the chamber it is when ignition happens. The further the case is in the chamber, the more of a problem it’s going to create. |
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Posted: 5/10/2023 12:17:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -OdieGreen-: It all depends on how far in the chamber it is when ignition happens. The further the case is in the chamber, the more of a problem it’s going to create. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -OdieGreen-: Originally Posted By backbencher: In 9x19mm? It can drop gas down the magwell and injure the shooter that way, but that's generally a bbl obstruction which is much more dangerous. In an OOB, you may not even get the bullet down the bbl or have complete combustion. It all depends on how far in the chamber it is when ignition happens. The further the case is in the chamber, the more of a problem it’s going to create. True - it's still not going to blow up a slide. |
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