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Posted: 8/5/2023 12:25:28 PM EST
How is the trigger?
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Posted: 8/6/2023 3:33:38 PM EST
[Last Edit: maxima2]
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Have not shot it at the range yet (trying to go tomorrow) but have just dry fired it using snap caps and the trigger is very good.
It is a keeper. |
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Posted: 8/6/2023 9:07:38 PM EST
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I’m tempted to buy one of the Colt 22 revolvers.
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Posted: 8/7/2023 6:25:19 PM EST
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What are y’all paying for them?
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Posted: 8/8/2023 12:54:54 PM EST
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I would love to. Been wanting one since they were first announced but haven't been able to find one for MSRP (or less) and I won't pay more than MSRP
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Posted: 8/8/2023 5:31:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradleyswine: I’m tempted to buy one of the Colt 22 revolvers. What revolver is this? I see nothing on the Colt website. |
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Posted: 8/8/2023 9:07:06 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USPguy: What revolver is this? I see nothing on the Colt website. COLT KING COBRA, DOUBLE ACTION/SINGLE ACTION, REVOLVER, 22 LR, 4.25" |
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Posted: 8/8/2023 9:53:19 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By airgunner: You didn't look hard enough... COLT KING COBRA, DOUBLE ACTION/SINGLE ACTION, REVOLVER, 22 LR, 4.25" Not a single .22 listed, they're ALL .357mag guns. https://www.colt.com/series/KING_COBRA_SERIES $1K MSRP for a .22LR revolver? No one is going to pay that, IMO. |
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Posted: 8/9/2023 7:29:55 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USPguy: Not a single .22 listed, they're ALL .357mag guns. https://www.colt.com/series/KING_COBRA_SERIES $1K MSRP for a .22LR revolver? No one is going to pay that, IMO. As for the website, I provided you the link. What more proof do you want? Colt's website has always sucked. It is what it is. As for price, you know not of what you speak. People have already been buying them at that price (when they can find them, Colt's rollout of this model has been very slow). GB has a few of them for well over MSRP (but I doubt any of them are selling at those prices?). Have you looked at what a S&W 617 goes for? Around $900-950 and that's for a new one with the Hillary hole and a lot of MIM. Pre-lock 4" models can go for a lot more. This new Colt will have no problem selling for MSRP until the supply catches up with the demand and then it will probably settle down to ~$850-$900. |
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Posted: 8/9/2023 9:44:50 AM EST
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Got mine at MSRP = $999.98
They had several for a grand opening. Sold them all and can't get any more - demand is high right now. I looked over 3 and all were perfect - at that point I just picked one of those, no need to see more. Still haven't made it to the range - day off was spent taking care of minor emergencies caused by others.  |
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Posted: 8/9/2023 10:43:56 AM EST
[Last Edit: maxima2]
[#10]
Just sat down with my 4" S&W 617 and the Colt King Cobra .22 and measured the single action trigger pull with my RCBS Premium Trigger Pull Scale.
The S&W was one pound heavier than the Colt in single action pull weight. Colt = 3.5# S&W = 4.5# Scale only goes to 8 pounds and both will peg it off the scale in double action mode - besides, the pulls are so different you really have to try it for yourself. The Colt pull weight in double action builds as the trigger moves backwards then peaks and the trigger breaks - it is really smooth and steady. The S&W feels like it is the same pull weight all along the trigger stroke - nothing wrong here, just different = I love this revolver and it's trigger is awesome. |
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Posted: 8/9/2023 6:48:49 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By airgunner: As for the website, I provided you the link. What more proof do you want? Colt's website has always sucked. It is what it is. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By airgunner: As for the website, I provided you the link. What more proof do you want? Colt's website has always sucked. It is what it is. Not asking for "proof", just showing it isn't on Colt's web site. Don't take it personal. As for price, you know not of what you speak. People have already been buying them at that price (when they can find them, Colt's rollout of this model has been very slow). GB has a few of them for well over MSRP (but I doubt any of them are selling at those prices?). Have you looked at what a S&W 617 goes for? Around $900-950 and that's for a new one with the Hillary hole and a lot of MIM. Pre-lock 4" models can go for a lot more. This new Colt will have no problem selling for MSRP until the supply catches up with the demand and then it will probably settle down to ~$850-$900. I already have a 617 with alloy cylinder, so I don't check the newer prices. As for Colt sales, how do you know if they're selling or not? |
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Posted: 8/9/2023 6:50:16 PM EST
[Last Edit: USPguy]
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By maxima2: Just sat down with my 4" S&W 617 and the Colt King Cobra .22 and measured the single action trigger pull with my RCBS Premium Trigger Pull Scale. The S&W was one pound heavier than the Colt in single action pull weight. Colt = 3.5# S&W = 4.5# Scale only goes to 8 pounds and both will peg it off the scale in double action mode - besides, the pulls are so different you really have to try it for yourself. The Colt pull weight in double action builds as the trigger moves backwards then peaks and the trigger breaks - it is really smooth and steady. The S&W feels like it is the same pull weight all along the trigger stroke - nothing wrong here, just different = I love this revolver and it's trigger is awesome. What dash is your 617? Mine is a -2. |
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Posted: 8/9/2023 7:52:08 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USPguy: Not asking for "proof", just showing it isn't on Colt's web site. Don't take it personal. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USPguy: Not asking for "proof", just showing it isn't on Colt's web site. Don't take it personal. Personal? No, I'm just absolutely fucking amazed that I gave you a direct link and you are still trying to claim its not on Colt's website  Originally Posted By USPguy: As for Colt sales, how do you know if they're selling or not? Well for one, people have posted reviews on them with pics and videos on various forums like the Colt forum but how about this for proof... here's one on GB that already has 18 bids, is up to $100 over MSRP and there is still over a day left on it... Colt King Cobra 4.25" 22LR NEW KCOBRA22-SP4RFO In Stock! But I'm sure that doesn't mean anything either right? 
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Posted: 8/10/2023 2:55:36 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By airgunner: Personal? No, I'm just absolutely fucking amazed that I gave you a direct link and you are still trying to claim its not on Colt's website Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By airgunner: Personal? No, I'm just absolutely fucking amazed that I gave you a direct link and you are still trying to claim its not on Colt's website And I showed YOU the link to Colt where it's NOT listed. Not trying to convince you of anything, merely showing you something. Again, you seem to be taking this very personal. Well for one, people have posted reviews on them with pics and videos on various forums like the Colt forum but how about this for proof... here's one on GB that already has 18 bids, is up to $100 over MSRP and there is still over a day left on it... But I'm sure that doesn't mean anything either right? $1 says those are Colt collectors doing the buying right now. Joe Average isn't gonna spend $1K (or more) on a .22 Colt revolver, IMO. I also wonder about production numbers. Might be easier to sell them all when production is somewhat lower than usual than on other models. Several FFL's are telling me they can't give away Python's these days. Even the blems are slow sellers @ $1100-ish, they say. |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 3:01:21 AM EST
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No blue, no care.
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Posted: 8/10/2023 5:08:56 AM EST
[Last Edit: fxntime]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USPguy: And I showed YOU the link to Colt where it's NOT listed. Not trying to convince you of anything, merely showing you something. Again, you seem to be taking this very personal. $1 says those are Colt collectors doing the buying right now. Joe Average isn't gonna spend $1K (or more) on a .22 Colt revolver, IMO. I also wonder about production numbers. Might be easier to sell them all when production is somewhat lower than usual than on other models. Several FFL's are telling me they can't give away Python's these days. Even the blems are slow sellers @ $1100-ish, they say. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USPguy: Originally Posted By airgunner: Personal? No, I'm just absolutely fucking amazed that I gave you a direct link and you are still trying to claim its not on Colt's website And I showed YOU the link to Colt where it's NOT listed. Not trying to convince you of anything, merely showing you something. Again, you seem to be taking this very personal. Well for one, people have posted reviews on them with pics and videos on various forums like the Colt forum but how about this for proof... here's one on GB that already has 18 bids, is up to $100 over MSRP and there is still over a day left on it... But I'm sure that doesn't mean anything either right? $1 says those are Colt collectors doing the buying right now. Joe Average isn't gonna spend $1K (or more) on a .22 Colt revolver, IMO. I also wonder about production numbers. Might be easier to sell them all when production is somewhat lower than usual than on other models. Several FFL's are telling me they can't give away Python's these days. Even the blems are slow sellers @ $1100-ish, they say. You haven't priced out .22 S&W revolvers lately have you? Ammo costs are why a .22 revolver will sell and a .357 won't when it comes to buying a ''fun gun revolver'' and going to the range. They will sell. |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 7:37:01 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fxntime: You haven't priced out .22 S&W revolvers lately have you? Seems like they're in the $899 range? Depends on the model, obviously. I don't know I've even seen a NIB Smith .22 aside from their 617 models in the last year or so. But no, I haven't been keeping up on them as I can't afford them. I also buy almost all of mine used. I did buy a NIB 648 (.22mag) about a year ago though. |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 8:24:34 AM EST
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Originally Posted By USPguy: And I showed YOU the link to Colt where it's NOT listed. Not trying to convince you of anything, merely showing you something. Again, you seem to be taking this very personal. That and your projection of your own cheapness. You think because you won't pay that price that no one else will either. Well you're wrong about that too because I'm not a collector and I am willing to pay up to MSRP for one once I can actually find one for that price. Will these sell as well as a $300 gun. No, obviously not but no $1k gun sells as well as a $300 gun no matter what the caliber or brand. Some people shop prices and some people shop for quality. It's a big market so there is plenty of room for all types and budgets. Sure prices will drop on these after they have been on the market for a while and most interested buyers have already gotten theirs. No different then the Pythons that sold for MSRP or more for years before the prices dropped to what they are today. That's pretty much what happens with any new gun, they start off priced high with low availability and then eventually the availability gets better and the initial rush dies down and prices get lower. As a buyer you have to decide if you're willing to pay a premium to get one ASAP or are you willing to wait a few years until the price drops? There is no universal right or wrong answer to that question as it depends on the buyers needs, wants and budget. |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 4:53:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USPguy: Seems like they're in the $899 range? Depends on the model, obviously. I don't know I've even seen a NIB Smith .22 aside from their 617 models in the last year or so. But no, I haven't been keeping up on them as I can't afford them. I also buy almost all of mine used. I did buy a NIB 648 (.22mag) about a year ago though. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USPguy: Originally Posted By fxntime: You haven't priced out .22 S&W revolvers lately have you? Seems like they're in the $899 range? Depends on the model, obviously. I don't know I've even seen a NIB Smith .22 aside from their 617 models in the last year or so. But no, I haven't been keeping up on them as I can't afford them. I also buy almost all of mine used. I did buy a NIB 648 (.22mag) about a year ago though. You're about spot on, I see $900 or very close quite a bit, $950 gets asked but I'm betting it's just to dicker down to $900 or so. Colt is pretty much spot on as far as what the market will bear. And a nice semi auto .22 isn't exactly cheap nowadays either. I doubt people dumping S&W's and Colt revolvers [DA type] 15-30 years ago ever thought they would rise above the $150-$300 range but between the dollar being worth less and the demand being what it is, there are a lot of people kicking themselves in the ass for dumping theirs for plastic wondernine/fotays that may as well be made by tupperware even if they work perfectly fine. |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 5:20:22 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By airgunner: It's not personal it's just fucking annoying when people are as obtuse as your being. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By airgunner: It's not personal it's just fucking annoying when people are as obtuse as your being. First of all, it's "you're". Get it right.  Secondly, I don't deny your link, it's obvious it's a Colt site. It's also obvious you totally ignore the Colt site I posted. In fact, you didn't even comment on it. That and your projection of your own cheapness. You think because you won't pay that price that no one else will either. Well you're wrong about that too because I'm not a collector and I am willing to pay up to MSRP for one once I can actually find one for that price. Will these sell as well as a $300 gun. No, obviously not but no $1k gun sells as well as a $300 gun no matter what the caliber or brand. Some people shop prices and some people shop for quality. It's a big market so there is plenty of room for all types and budgets. I said no one would buy it (or very few, aside from the Colt collectors) based on value versus price. One can get a Smith Model 41 for close to that, which is a target grade .22, among THE best guns made. I don't believe the King Cobra .22 is every going to be described as "one of the best .22's ever made"? You wish to buy one, by all means. That's the American way, buying what one wants, is it not? I wish I had my "cheapness" when I bought my Les Baer's (multiple), CZ Custom's (multiple), Nighthawk & other assorted "cheap" guns....................... Once again, it's value versus price. For the record, I also own two Pythons (blued & Stainless), King Cobra, Official Police (both .22LR & .38spl) as well as LW Commander in .38Super. Colt AR too, for that matter. But none were priced above their value level. |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 5:26:31 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fxntime: You're about spot on, I see $900 or very close quite a bit, $950 gets asked but I'm betting it's just to dicker down to $900 or so. Colt is pretty much spot on as far as what the market will bear. And a nice semi auto .22 isn't exactly cheap nowadays either. Eh, there's some value in many brands of .22 semi's, IMO. Browning Buckmarks are a fav of mine & I have several of them. While I don't care for the Ruger .22 semi's, there's no denying they're affordable. I don't include their P22 in this though, based on quality. Again, I see the current demand being the Colt collectors & not Joe Average who wants a .22 revolver. I'm wagering it will mirror the new Python sales numbers: start out like a house on fire & then dwindling to low numbers. Obviously, time will tell. 
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Posted: 8/11/2023 2:42:24 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USPguy: I said no one would buy it (or very few, aside from the Colt collectors) based on value versus price. One can get a Smith Model 41 for close to that, which is a target grade .22, among THE best guns made. I don't believe the King Cobra .22 is every going to be described as "one of the best .22's ever made"? Whatever, we'll just have to agree to disagree because I'm done arguing about it. All I know for sure is... I like 22's and I like quality guns. I don't think this new Colt is overpriced in today's market and I look forward to adding one to them to my collection.  |
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Posted: 8/11/2023 8:37:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By airgunner: You keep saying they not going to sell but without giving any real reason other then "you don't think" or because apparently it's more than you'd be willing to pay. I did say why. I said it was value for the price. It's overpriced for what the item is. A quick glance at GD shows the 617 coming in at $929, which is way higher than it's worth, IMO. I would imagine the machining for both the Python & 617 is what drives the pricing, but I have no clue about that. Now, if Colt comes out with blems for 25% less like they have with the Pythons, then I'd be all over that. Priced a Ford F-350 duelly diesel lately? Over $100K. They're not worth that either, IMO. |
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Posted: 8/11/2023 8:44:44 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USPguy: I did say why. I said it was value for the price. It's overpriced for what the item is. A quick glance at GD shows the 617 coming in at $929, which is way higher than it's worth, IMO. I would imagine the machining for both the Python & 617 is what drives the pricing, but I have no clue about that. Now, if Colt comes out with blems for 25% less like they have with the Pythons, then I'd be all over that. Priced a Ford F-350 duelly diesel lately? Over $100K. They're not worth that either, IMO. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USPguy: Originally Posted By airgunner: You keep saying they not going to sell but without giving any real reason other then "you don't think" or because apparently it's more than you'd be willing to pay. I did say why. I said it was value for the price. It's overpriced for what the item is. A quick glance at GD shows the 617 coming in at $929, which is way higher than it's worth, IMO. I would imagine the machining for both the Python & 617 is what drives the pricing, but I have no clue about that. Now, if Colt comes out with blems for 25% less like they have with the Pythons, then I'd be all over that. Priced a Ford F-350 duelly diesel lately? Over $100K. They're not worth that either, IMO. The cost to produce a .22 RF revolver on a specific sized frame isn't really any less then manufacturing another larger center fire caliber on that same frame size. Finishing is exactly the same. |
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Posted: 8/11/2023 8:56:16 PM EST
[Last Edit: BigFatDog]
[#25]
 I have one. I also have a Ruger SP101 in 22LR with a 4” barrel. The trigger on the Colt lt is much nicer than the trigger on my SP101. The Ruger has had some trigger work over the years and a ton of rounds through it. Does that help? My Ruger revolvers for reference…  I don’t yet have a Smith 22LR variant. |
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Posted: 8/11/2023 9:09:22 PM EST
[Last Edit: maxima2]
[#26]
Worth is established by the consumer.
Colt is selling these as fast as they can make them at prices above MSRP. Consumers are still saying they are worth it. If you don't want to buy one, that's fine - that bothers no one and makes a gun available to someone that wants one. The new Colts are made to a much higher standard than the Smith and Wesson and Rugers of today. The only bad thing about the new Colts is the rear sight - replace it with a Wilson Combat rear sight and you are done. |
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Posted: 8/11/2023 9:41:06 PM EST
[Last Edit: airgunner]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fxntime: The cost to produce a .22 RF revolver on a specific sized frame isn't really any less then manufacturing another larger center fire caliber on that same frame size. Finishing is exactly the same. That's the thing people seem to forget. $1k for a KCT in 357... No problem. Same price for basically the same gun in .22LR... Oh that's too much I get it, lots of people don't want to spend that much for a .22 (and for those people there are cheaper, albeit generally lower quality options) but that's different then actually expecting it to cost less or saying it's overpriced because its a 22. Expecting to pay less for a 22 built to the same quality level as its larger caliber brother just isn't realistic IMO |
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Posted: 8/11/2023 9:41:55 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigFatDog: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/83325/IMG_6159-2863289.jpg I have one. I also have a Ruger SP101 in 22LR with a 4” barrel. The trigger on the Colt lt is much nicer than the trigger on my SP101. The Ruger has had some trigger work over the years and a ton of rounds through it. Does that help? My Ruger revolvers for reference… https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/83325/IMG_0623-2916537.jpg I don’t yet have a Smith 22LR variant. Nice collection! 
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Posted: 8/12/2023 9:04:36 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fxntime: The cost to produce a .22 RF revolver on a specific sized frame isn't really any less then manufacturing another larger center fire caliber on that same frame size. Finishing is exactly the same. Should be. They drill lots smaller holes....................... 
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Posted: 8/12/2023 9:07:44 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigFatDog: I have one. I also have a Ruger SP101 in 22LR with a 4” barrel. The trigger on the Colt lt is much nicer than the trigger on my SP101. The Ruger has had some trigger work over the years and a ton of rounds through it. Does that help? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigFatDog: I have one. I also have a Ruger SP101 in 22LR with a 4” barrel. The trigger on the Colt lt is much nicer than the trigger on my SP101. The Ruger has had some trigger work over the years and a ton of rounds through it. Does that help? To be fair, it isn't hard to have a better trigger than what Rugers do. Only trigger worse than Ruger is on a H&K USP pistol. Bragging about a better trigger than a Ruger is like winning a Special Olympics spelling bee. I don’t yet have a Smith 22LR variant.   Attached File |
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Posted: 8/12/2023 9:11:00 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By maxima2: Worth is established by the consumer. Colt is selling these as fast as they can make them at prices above MSRP. Consumers are still saying they are worth it. If you don't want to buy one, that's fine - that bothers no one and makes a gun available to someone that wants one. The new Colts are made to a much higher standard than the Smith and Wesson and Rugers of today. The only bad thing about the new Colts is the rear sight - replace it with a Wilson Combat rear sight and you are done. All true except for the red part, IMO. However, the last new Smith I bought was 2 years ago, a 648. Quite honestly, I'm disappointed in my new Python's trigger. Could be just my imagination, don't know. But it's nowhere near as nice as my Smiths, not even close. |
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Posted: 8/12/2023 9:29:48 AM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USPguy: To be fair, it isn't hard to have a better trigger than what Rugers do. Only trigger worse than Ruger is on a H&K USP pistol. Bragging about a better trigger than a Ruger is like winning a Special Olympics spelling bee. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/577645/Dam_Son_jpg-2916903.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USPguy: Originally Posted By BigFatDog: I have one. I also have a Ruger SP101 in 22LR with a 4” barrel. The trigger on the Colt lt is much nicer than the trigger on my SP101. The Ruger has had some trigger work over the years and a ton of rounds through it. Does that help? To be fair, it isn't hard to have a better trigger than what Rugers do. Only trigger worse than Ruger is on a H&K USP pistol. Bragging about a better trigger than a Ruger is like winning a Special Olympics spelling bee. I don’t yet have a Smith 22LR variant. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/577645/Dam_Son_jpg-2916903.JPG Buy an older Smit and Vesson.  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/12/2023 10:49:55 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USPguy: All true except for the red part, IMO. However, the last new Smith I bought was 2 years ago, a 648. Quite honestly, I'm disappointed in my new Python's trigger. Could be just my imagination, don't know. But it's nowhere near as nice as my Smiths, not even close. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USPguy: Originally Posted By maxima2: Worth is established by the consumer. Colt is selling these as fast as they can make them at prices above MSRP. Consumers are still saying they are worth it. If you don't want to buy one, that's fine - that bothers no one and makes a gun available to someone that wants one. The new Colts are made to a much higher standard than the Smith and Wesson and Rugers of today. The only bad thing about the new Colts is the rear sight - replace it with a Wilson Combat rear sight and you are done. All true except for the red part, IMO. However, the last new Smith I bought was 2 years ago, a 648. Quite honestly, I'm disappointed in my new Python's trigger. Could be just my imagination, don't know. But it's nowhere near as nice as my Smiths, not even close. They both tend to screw in the barrel so that it is past center or just shy of center. Ruger seems to be trying to get as big a gap between parts that should be fitted as they can. In the past 3 to 4 years I have seen enough that I will not even order a revolver from either one anymore. If a local dealer gets something in that I am interested in, I go check it out for myself and often enough they are assembled incorrectly or have other problems. Unlike an opinion, this is stuff I have seen on actual revolvers from each - they both have lost their way. Every Colt I have looked at in stores or at shows has been as perfect as you could hope for except for that rear sight and I can fix that myself. |
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Posted: 8/12/2023 11:49:13 AM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fxntime: Buy an older Smit and Vesson. I don’t love Smiths. I try to have apples to apples comparison guns in my collection. I’ve been finding 6” Smith 22LR revolvers. I need 4”. The only “Smith” that interests me as a shooter at the moment says Manurhin on the side. |
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Posted: 8/12/2023 12:28:27 PM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigFatDog: I don’t love Smiths. I try to have apples to apples comparison guns in my collection. I’ve been finding 6” Smith 22LR revolvers. I need 4”. The only “Smith” that interests me as a shooter at the moment says Manurhin on the side. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigFatDog: Originally Posted By fxntime: Buy an older Smit and Vesson. I don’t love Smiths. I try to have apples to apples comparison guns in my collection. I’ve been finding 6” Smith 22LR revolvers. I need 4”. The only “Smith” that interests me as a shooter at the moment says Manurhin on the side. You can always look for one of these.  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/12/2023 2:33:45 PM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fxntime: You can always look for one of these. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32224/IMG_1830__1__JPG-2917083.JPG Nice. I’m the odd guy that doesn’t love a lot of the things that other guys chase like Royal Blue Colts and Hk P7 pistols or MP5s though. |
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Posted: 8/12/2023 4:22:40 PM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigFatDog: Nice. I’m the odd guy that doesn’t love a lot of the things that other guys chase like Royal Blue Colts and Hk P7 pistols or MP5s though. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigFatDog: Originally Posted By fxntime: You can always look for one of these. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32224/IMG_1830__1__JPG-2917083.JPG Nice. I’m the odd guy that doesn’t love a lot of the things that other guys chase like Royal Blue Colts and Hk P7 pistols or MP5s though. Perfect example of how everything is relative to your own personal perspective, tastes and budgets. I do like those older guns like the RB Colts, pre-lock smiths, HK P7's etc. but I won't pay the crazy collector prices they bring these days. That's why most of my guns were made after Y2K. As an example... USPguy is complaining about $1k for a the new KCT 22 saying its too much for a 22 revolver but even at MSRP + 10%, it's still way under half of what a Diamondback in 90%+ condition go for in today's market. Hell you could buy 2 new KCT's at or even slightly above MSRP and still have money left over compared to buying 1 lightly used Diamondback. Is the new KCT 100% equal to an older Diamondback? No not entirely but at probably ~90-95% of the quality and performance for less than 50% (at minimum) of the price I'm in. |
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Posted: 8/12/2023 5:49:03 PM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fxntime: Buy an older Smit and Vesson. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32224/IMG_2040_JPG-2916919.JPG +1 I do. Got several no-dash models. Only have one (I think?) trigger lock model & I yanked it out immediately. |
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Posted: 8/12/2023 5:57:19 PM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By airgunner: As an example... USPguy is complaining about $1k for a the new KCT 22 saying its too much for a 22 revolver but even at MSRP + 10%, it's still way under half of what a Diamondback in 90%+ condition go for in today's market. Hell you could buy 2 new KCT's at or even slightly above MSRP and still have money left over compared to buying 1 lightly used Diamondback. Is the new KCT 100% equal to an older Diamondback? No not entirely but at probably ~90-95% of the quality and performance for less than 50% (at minimum) of the price I'm in. Perhaps you should look in the dictionary to learn the difference between "opining" & "complaining". But that would ruin your whining though, wouldn't it? For the record, I have a Diamondback .22. Bought it 8-9 years ago & the price has gone up since then. Would I buy one now? Certainly not, they're not worth the $1800 most of them sell for. |
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Posted: 8/12/2023 6:03:45 PM EST
[#40]
I'll buy one if I can find one. High quality .22LRs are one of life's few real pleasures, especially for those of us who have neighbors.
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Posted: 8/12/2023 8:25:26 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USPguy: Perhaps you should look in the dictionary to learn the difference between "opining" & "complaining". But that would ruin your whining though, wouldn't it? and perhaps you should look in a mirror and quit trying to pick a fight. Let's just knock off the drama and stay on topic. |
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Posted: 8/13/2023 8:16:42 AM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By airgunner: and perhaps you should look in a mirror and quit trying to pick a fight. Let's just knock off the drama and stay on topic. And if you're going to quote me, do it accurately for a change. |
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Posted: 8/13/2023 9:16:18 AM EST
[#43]
I paid about $950 for my 617 and I added a 406c red dot because I wanted a red dot on it.
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