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Posted: 9/7/2023 12:29:35 PM EST
[#1]
That's what we are buying as an agency. Well those and 34s for SWAT.
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Posted: 9/7/2023 12:49:28 PM EST
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I like my 47 a lot and appreciate that is has the same recoil spring assy as my G19. Not into swapping them around though.
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Posted: 9/7/2023 1:12:22 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's what we are buying as an agency. Well those and 34s for SWAT. Hard to go wrong with either. |
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Posted: 9/7/2023 1:48:51 PM EST
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What is the advantage this model has over the 17?
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Posted: 9/7/2023 2:16:01 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What is the advantage this model has over the 17? You can swap slides and frames between the two to get any combo you want. |
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Posted: 9/7/2023 2:34:19 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Interchangeability with the 19 gen 5. You can swap slides and frames between the two to get any combo you want. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What is the advantage this model has over the 17? You can swap slides and frames between the two to get any combo you want. Ok, that is kind of cool. |
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Posted: 9/7/2023 2:47:05 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What is the advantage this model has over the 17? Functionally probably nothing. But the ability to use a common locking block and recoil spring makes sense and does give the gun some modularity as mentioned. Frankly Glock should have done this a couple generations ago. |
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Posted: 9/7/2023 3:25:59 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What is the advantage this model has over the 17? Being able to offer the MOS version (since the G17.5 MOS is no longer offered). |
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Posted: 9/7/2023 3:35:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Being able to offer the MOS version (since the G17.5 MOS is no longer offered). ??? https://us.glock.com/en/pistols/g17-gen5-mos-fs |
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Posted: 9/7/2023 6:43:58 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's what we are buying as an agency. Well those and 34s for SWAT. @bnielsonak47 What is the thought process behind giving SWAT the G34? Are they after velocity or sight radius? Are they running a red dot? |
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Posted: 9/7/2023 7:11:01 PM EST
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We are switching to the 47 with an Acro P2 and TLR1 HL
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Posted: 9/7/2023 7:15:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @bnielsonak47 What is the thought process behind giving SWAT the G34? Are they after velocity or sight radius? Are they running a red dot? Can't have a Special Weapons And Tactics team if you give them regular weapons. A 34 does literally nothing a 47 can't do except take up more space. Whatever the slight velocity difference may be means nothing when talking about 9mm terminal performance. One of my local PD's just switched to 47's with a factory cut to direct mount a P2 which in my opinion is about the best option going for a normal PD duty gun. I have a had 47 with 509 for awhile and its been fine. I have a 19.5 top end with PMM comp and its cool to be able to swap that back and forth depending on my mood. |
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Posted: 9/7/2023 7:18:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Being able to offer the MOS version (since the G17.5 MOS is no longer offered). ??? https://us.glock.com/en/pistols/g17-gen5-mos-fs The G47 MOS will replace the G17 Gen5 MOS, while the G17 Gen5 (non-MOS) will still remain in the Gen5 lineup. Glock Press Release |
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Posted: 9/7/2023 7:32:01 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The G47 MOS will replace the G17 Gen5 MOS, while the G17 Gen5 (non-MOS) will still remain in the Gen5 lineup. Glock Press Release Yeah. I remember that now. They said around SHOT 23 that the 47 MOS would be the duty gun MOS option. They should just drop the 17 completely at this point. Had they called the 47 the 17G for government or 17BP for Border Protection probably nobody would have even noticed that the old style 17 had been discontinued. Funniest thing about the press release is that they refer to BJ Norris as a "three year veteran." He's what Olde tyme patrol agents would call a "nugget." |
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Posted: 9/7/2023 8:40:54 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They should just drop the 17 completely at this point. Had they called the 47 the 17G for government or 17BP for Border Protection probably nobody would have even noticed that the old style 17 had been discontinued. Glock isn't stupid. They only recently got Fudds to accept polymer frame pistols like 16 years ago. Some of those Fudds only buy full-size service pistols. Fudds are a huge market share, and they don't "notice" things until they cannot get what they've previously been purchasing. |
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Posted: 9/7/2023 8:56:39 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They will lose Fudd sales if they do that. Glock isn't stupid. They only recently got Fudds to accept polymer frame pistols like 16 years ago. Some of those Fudds only buy full-size service pistols. Fudds are a huge market share, and they don't "notice" things until they cannot get what they've previously been purchasing. Yeah that's partly why I said Glock should have called the new gun the 17E or whatever and then just dropped the old one. People would have quit caring after about two months. |
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Posted: 9/7/2023 10:20:02 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can't have a Special Weapons And Tactics team if you give them regular weapons. A 34 does literally nothing a 47 can't do except take up more space. Whatever the slight velocity difference may be means nothing when talking about 9mm terminal performance. One of my local PD's just switched to 47's with a factory cut to direct mount a P2 which in my opinion is about the best option going for a normal PD duty gun. I have a had 47 with 509 for awhile and its been fine. I have a 19.5 top end with PMM comp and its cool to be able to swap that back and forth depending on my mood. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: @bnielsonak47 What is the thought process behind giving SWAT the G34? Are they after velocity or sight radius? Are they running a red dot? Can't have a Special Weapons And Tactics team if you give them regular weapons. A 34 does literally nothing a 47 can't do except take up more space. Whatever the slight velocity difference may be means nothing when talking about 9mm terminal performance. One of my local PD's just switched to 47's with a factory cut to direct mount a P2 which in my opinion is about the best option going for a normal PD duty gun. I have a had 47 with 509 for awhile and its been fine. I have a 19.5 top end with PMM comp and its cool to be able to swap that back and forth depending on my mood. The recoil is reduced in the 34. it's noticeable between my G17 and G34. |
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Posted: 9/7/2023 10:42:58 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The recoil is reduced in the 34. it's noticeable between my G17 and G34. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: @bnielsonak47 What is the thought process behind giving SWAT the G34? Are they after velocity or sight radius? Are they running a red dot? Can't have a Special Weapons And Tactics team if you give them regular weapons. A 34 does literally nothing a 47 can't do except take up more space. Whatever the slight velocity difference may be means nothing when talking about 9mm terminal performance. One of my local PD's just switched to 47's with a factory cut to direct mount a P2 which in my opinion is about the best option going for a normal PD duty gun. I have a had 47 with 509 for awhile and its been fine. I have a 19.5 top end with PMM comp and its cool to be able to swap that back and forth depending on my mood. The recoil is reduced in the 34. it's noticeable between my G17 and G34. I agree with that. My Gen 5 G34 is the smoothest shooting of all my Glocks. |
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Posted: 9/7/2023 10:53:52 PM EST
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I have a 19, 45 and 47. I can make any combination of slide and frame and like the ability to swap things around ad needed. Honestly though, the 45 is my all time favorite at this point...
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Posted: 9/8/2023 4:47:07 AM EST
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Posted: 9/8/2023 6:25:41 AM EST
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Posted: 9/8/2023 7:29:18 AM EST
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Posted: 9/8/2023 7:31:08 AM EST
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Quoted: Yeah. I remember that now. They said around SHOT 23 that the 47 MOS would be the duty gun MOS option. They should just drop the 17 completely at this point. Had they called the 47 the 17G for government or 17BP for Border Protection probably nobody would have even noticed that the old style 17 had been discontinued. Funniest thing about the press release is that they refer to BJ Norris as a "three year veteran." He's what Olde tyme patrol agents would call a "nugget." Yep. |
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Posted: 9/8/2023 7:38:52 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep. I should have scrolled down  My dealer had what was labeled as a new in box 47 MOS for $499 last week. It sold pretty quickly. |
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Posted: 9/8/2023 7:56:18 AM EST
[#25]
It’s all opinion, of course, but the 34/35 is the most obsolete Glock, which is surprising, considering that they were the hot ticket 15-20 years ago. They are nose heavy and, especially with RDOs, don’t do anything to justify the size difference.
I like the 47. But, for me, the 19x/45 is the sweet spot. |
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Posted: 9/8/2023 8:07:23 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s all opinion, of course, but the 34/35 is the most obsolete Glock, which is surprising, considering that they were the hot ticket 15-20 years ago. They are nose heavy and, especially with RDOs, don’t do anything to justify the size difference. ZEV is, if I understand the OZ stuff correctly, making both 17 and 34 length slides for the 19 length dust cover. I'm not sure here but I believe these all use the 19 length recoil spring. Glock could easily enough make a 47L that would be essentially the 34. |
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Posted: 9/8/2023 8:41:15 AM EST
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: ZEV is, if I understand the OZ stuff correctly, making both 17 and 34 length slides for the 19 length dust cover. I'm not sure here but I believe these all use the 19 length recoil spring. Glock could easily enough make a 47L that would be essentially the 34. The modularity is interesting. |
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Posted: 9/8/2023 1:03:21 PM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @bnielsonak47 What is the thought process behind giving SWAT the G34? Are they after velocity or sight radius? Are they running a red dot? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That's what we are buying as an agency. Well those and 34s for SWAT. @bnielsonak47 What is the thought process behind giving SWAT the G34? Are they after velocity or sight radius? Are they running a red dot? @naes Was decided way before my time. Even when the agency was blasting Glock 22s swat had 35s. But as someone else stated I bet it was just to give the swat bro’s something special. We’re all pretty much sporting red dots, even jail deputies are starting to get mos 47s. |
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Posted: 9/9/2023 3:54:15 AM EST
[#29]
I’ve been thinking about picking up a 47. I own every other 9mm Glock and even multiple copies of many of them. 19X and 45 are my favorites by far.
ETA: Does it shoot pretty much like a 17? |
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Posted: 9/9/2023 5:54:43 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The modularity is interesting. Yes, it is. I like it. I switched out the frame on the Hyper-Comp Compact to the same on used on the Elite Standard. Super simple to do.  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/9/2023 9:24:11 AM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The modularity is interesting. ZEV has done more than anyone else with the modular Glock concept. They have a good amount of factory options with slides and barrels and also grip modules. And Icarus is making aluminum grips as well. There may be some other companies making grip modules that I'm not aware of. The ZEV modular concept would seem to be at its best with the OZ9C since it can be configured into essentially everything from a 19 to a 34. The only other pistol offering as much (actually a little more?) is the ZRO Delta The One. This is a Glock pattern that can be configured in a 19, 17 or 34 and also can be clipped into an AR-style lower and made into a 223 rifle. Lots of options with the ZRO but that system doesn't seem to have really caught on, has it? The Glock 19/45/47 has some of this modularity but isn't really supported by Glock. In order to make the various pistol combinations, the owner needs to buy a couple different pistols and then swap parts from there. Glock does sell some spare parts through the armorer programs but I think these are restricted to those who've attended an armorer course. Would it kill Glock to sell new and unserialized slides and barrels that can be used with 19 and 45 frames? |
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Posted: 9/9/2023 9:44:41 AM EST
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Did 2 things the first week I had my 47.
1. Sent the top end to Monsoon Tactical for the Lucky 7 ports. 2. Traded the 47 frame for 19.5 frame. The 19L set up is my favorite. Wish Glock would make that as a factory option. |
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Posted: 9/9/2023 10:16:37 AM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Did 2 things the first week I had my 47. 1. Sent the top end to Monsoon Tactical for the Lucky 7 ports. 2. Traded the 47 frame for 19.5 frame. The 19L set up is my favorite. Wish Glock would make that as a factory option. Why the L7 vs the Chunk? |
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Posted: 9/9/2023 11:06:29 AM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why the L7 vs the Chunk? I’ve got a 19 w the L7’s and really like it. Kind of knew what to expect. I’ll probably get in the queue to send another top end I have off for the Chunk port during their Black Friday sale. |
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Posted: 9/9/2023 11:15:32 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Would it kill Glock to sell new and unserialized slides and barrels that can be used with 19 and 45 frames? A company who was revolutionary four decades ago is stuck in it's ways in giving the customers what they want. That leaves you with the aftermarket, or buying two guns and selling the parts you don't want. |
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Posted: 9/9/2023 6:14:26 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did 2 things the first week I had my 47. 1. Sent the top end to Monsoon Tactical for the Lucky 7 ports. 2. Traded the 47 frame for 19.5 frame. The 19L set up is my favorite. Wish Glock would make that as a factory option. Just picked up a 47 today. Yeah I think the 19L is fucking awesome. Threw the 19 slide on the 47 frame for a spare 45. Doubt I’ll be changing it back. |
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Posted: 9/10/2023 6:51:08 PM EST
[#37]
School me please.
What is so great about a G47??? |
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Posted: 9/11/2023 12:45:06 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: School me please. What is so great about a G47??? Mix & match G19.5 & G47 and you can have..... G17 size G19 size G45 size G19L size |
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Posted: 9/11/2023 9:11:32 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Mix & match G19.5 & G47 and you can have..... G17 size G19 size G45 size G19L size Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: School me please. What is so great about a G47??? Mix & match G19.5 & G47 and you can have..... G17 size G19 size G45 size G19L size That doesn't seem right. The G47 is full size frame, so you get a G45 or G17. The grip doesn't reduce for G19 and the G19L is the same slide size as the G17. |
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Posted: 9/11/2023 10:34:14 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That doesn't seem right. The G47 is full size frame, so you get a G45 or G17. The grip doesn't reduce for G19 and the G19L is the same slide size as the G17. You have to have a G47 and a G19 to do all that. G19 is just the G19 G19L is the G19 frame with the 47 slide. G47 is the same as the G17 essentially. G45 is the G47 frame with the G19 slide. |
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Posted: 9/11/2023 2:02:27 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You have to have a G47 and a G19 to do all that. G19 is just the G19 G19L is the G19 frame with the 47 slide. G47 is the same as the G17 essentially. G45 is the G47 frame with the G19 slide.  |
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Posted: 9/11/2023 6:14:01 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This, if you buy a G47 and G19, those 2 guns give you these 4 possible configurations: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/157876/Gs-2950217.png Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You have to have a G47 and a G19 to do all that. G19 is just the G19 G19L is the G19 frame with the 47 slide. G47 is the same as the G17 essentially. G45 is the G47 frame with the G19 slide. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/157876/Gs-2950217.png I understand what the configs are, but the other poster was asking about the merits of the G47. None of that matters if you don't have a G19 as well. |
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Posted: 9/11/2023 6:29:18 PM EST
[#43]
If you only have a G47, that’s all you have. A G17 equivalent.
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Posted: 9/11/2023 8:47:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you only have a G47, that’s all you have. A G17 equivalent. Yeah, nothing great about a G47 except you get to toss all your G17 RSAs and buy new ones The "greatness" is the ability to merge with a Gen5 G19 to make a G19L and a G45. If you're a poor like me, you could do it with a PSA Dagger compact with a Dagger S frame and the Compact X slide assembly |
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Posted: 9/11/2023 9:45:40 PM EST
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Well you also get to standardise on one rsa. Doesn’t the 47 use the 19 rsa?
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Posted: 9/11/2023 10:10:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Doesn't the 47 use the 19 rsa? |
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Posted: 9/12/2023 3:39:56 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well you also get to standardise on one rsa. Doesn’t the 47 use the 19 rsa? A common locking block too. The parts commonality now is everything other than the barrel and slide. And the bare frame if your running a 19. The 17 now uses a 19 locking block too but without the common recoil spring. It will be interesting to see what Glock does with the 34. Will it eventually get a longer spring tunnel and then be made to work with the 19 recoil spring or will Glock leave it alone and use the 17 frame and spring? Getting back to the ZEV stuff they do have a stretched 19 slide that's equivalent to the 34. https://www.zevtechnologies.com/Z19-OZ9-Extra-Long-Slide-with-RMR-Optic-Cut-3rd-Gen-DLC https://www.zevtechnologies.com/ZEV-Optimized-Match-Barrel-G34-Gen5-DLC |
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Posted: 9/12/2023 5:36:16 AM EST
[#48]
As long as Glock is still making the standard 17, I don’t see them reinventing the 34.
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Posted: 9/12/2023 11:26:43 AM EST
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How's the recoil impulse compare between a 47 and Gen 5 17?
Does the G19 RSA make the 47 noticeably different than the 17? |
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Posted: 9/12/2023 11:33:43 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How's the recoil impulse compare between a 47 and Gen 5 17? Does the G19 RSA make the 47 noticeably different than the 17? |
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