Looking for confirmation on whether or not the new 92X Centurion comes with the G decocker either as an option or, as Beretta's website says, "...to the universal slide design which is convertible from safety-decocker (F) to decocker-only (G)..." meaning it is easily convertible for the end user to make the change himself?

Thanks.

Yes. Comes in both styles. You can also buy the G conversion for about $50. Easily installed? If you have the tools. Otherwise just buy the G to begin with.

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Yes.  You can and SHOULD get a 92X G.

Thank you much!

The G is not a Brigadier G, it's a converted F with the ugly right side lever.  I got the full-size and will NEVER carry it so I opted for the much better looking safety model.  YMMV

I spent the extra money to have Wilson convert my F safety to a G decocker, so it retains the original G lines of decades ago.

The G conversion kit lever looks so out of place on the 92 design. It's like putting a fart can on a Ferrari.

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It looks even better with the Wilson slim single sided safety .

Any pictures of what you guys are talking about with the safety/decock levers being unattractive compared to something else?

The original Beretta 92G right side decocker looked exactly like the F safety. The lever simply sprang back up to the fire position when you dropped the hammer. For years, Beretta didn't make a G model. More recently, Beretta has used what they call a G conversion kit on their reintroduced decocker models, and sell the kit for about $50 so people can retrofit their Berettas with safeties. This has allowed Beretta to manufacture the same slide for both F and G models because the earlier G guns had to have different machining in the slide for the decocker.

There are a unique few of us who feel that the sleek lines of the 92 are destroyed with the look of the conversion kit lever. Wilson will convert a 92 to the original G specs using the original safety. Functionally its the same, but looks are the reason most of us buy guns anyway, right?

Which looks better? (Googled pics)
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Funny thing. It was really hard to find pictures of the right side decocking lever on modern G guns, like it's hard to find left side pictures of S&W revolvers. Wonder why?

Is this the same case for the m9a3?

All new production G models (92X, M9A3, LTT) have the conversion kit installed at the factory. The only ones that will have the original style are Wilsons.

One word of note that I've read: apparently if the little clockspring and detents fail in the current G conversion kit, the levers will fall down and engage the safety requiring the user to lift the now-floppy safety in order for the pistol to fire.

If the machined Wilson conversion fails, apparently the gun remains functional.


Personally, I'm not worried, especially about the detent, so the G conversion is just fine with me, even if the right side is ever so slightly uglier than it should be.

Thanks for the info!

The imperfections are because of Gallatin. Not really surprising.

Thanks all, for the pictures, info and discussion.
Good stuff here.

I've done a couple of the G conversions. I consider my self pretty mechanically inclined and found them to be a PITA. You're going to wish you had three hands because of the spring loaded detents. I'd do 10 front take down pins before doing another G conversion.

That was my feeling as well. When I included the cost of the conversion kit plus the amount of frustration I'd have that really helped cushion the cost of Wilson doing the work.

I actually prefer the F/safety model. I use it when I'm holstering (then release it with the right-side lever when it's in place) or when I'm touching it for anything besides firing (like quickly installing a light on the rail). I also like putting it on safe when I set it down for any reason without unloading it, and also when unloading it for that matter. At this point my muscle memory activates the safety whenever I handle the Beretta outside active firing.

When I started carrying, the Beretta was the only pistol I owned and I would carry with the safety on and trained hard to make sure my muscle memory turned it off during the draw. It never slowed me down compared to the safety-less or frame-safety guns I later acquired. Now I carry safety-off but I still like the ability to use the safety.

If you are at all worried about having your gun grabbed, the Beretta is nice in that the safety is not where people think it is. People who are not familiar with the Beretta 92 and have the safety on try to press the slide release, then the mag release, then mess with the hammer before they try the slide safety. It's a great safety if you are worried about that. Most people aren't, and shouldn't really be, but it's useful to consider. Most holsters allow access to the right-side lever so you can easily and quickly put the safety on in a relatively innocuous motion, even through a shirt or other cover garment, if you think a grab might be a worry (like in a shoulder-to-shoulder crowd in an area known for pick-pockets).

To me, the F/safety is a nice extra in that it will do what the G does plus more. I've NEVER had the safety engage on when I didn't put it on. I do not carry it with the safety on. I've carried my Beretta M9A1, Vertec, or a 90-TWO on and off for over 7 years now, and for over a year I carried one of them daily (I worked at a gun shop in a bad area and wanted the extra controllability and ammo count).

The advantage of the Beretta safety is it's pretty easy to manipulate it on safe and then off again without removing your thumb, essentially making it a decocker. That's the way I used my first 92.

I did 3 G conversations in one night. Not hard once you get the first one.

Do the original G models get any sort of a premium over a basic, current production 92 series pistol?

They used to command a premium before the M9A3 came out, but that was when the G-conversion used to be an involved process.

Now that the M9A3/92X became the norm I seriously doubt the G or F will command a premium in the future. It only takes a token amount of money/effort to swap between F and G now that Beretta has designed such a conversion into the basic design, so I doubt it'll make a difference. Get the one you want, and worry about resale later. You should be keeping (and not selling) any remotely decent guns anyway. All guns gain value over time so long as they aren't utter shit. Even the really irredeemably bad ones still gain significant collector value after a decade or so after they stop manufacturing (which happens quickly for most bad designs), so buy whatever you actually want and don't worry about resale. Life is too short to worry about a potential $100 profit over 10 years.

Guns may be the safest investment you could make as far as things you'll use hard before reselling. I'm pretty damn stupid, but even I have yet to sell a gun at more than a 10% loss even after some hard/abuse use. And the only ones I sold at a loss where to family/friends. That includes some home-gunsmithing attempts that failed by my (high) standards but didn't faze the recreational shooters I was selling to (and I was very sure to make any potential buyers aware of any minor issues with my home-gunsmithing work).

When I bought my 92X Centurions "G" they were the same price as the "F" models so I of course bought the factory "G" models.

Might be a dumb question but I've not owned a Beretta.  Is there any difference at all in the trigger (smoothness or pull) between the F and the G?  

Negative.  Zero difference.

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And the X models come with D springs and full metal triggers

Hmmmmm. Not sure about full metal trigger.

Can someone confirm?

I just looked at some giant resolution pictures of the normal M9 and the 92X. The trigger is definitely different, with no seam lines like the plastic one and a thinner profile.

I own one.  There are no plastic parts except the hammer spring cap

Thank you.