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Link Posted: 6/29/2023 3:18:18 PM EST
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The Stakeout is closer. Just add the trigger and safety from the Duty and a set of Pachmayr grips.

https://tisasusa.com/tisas-1911-stakeout-45/

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Just use the GI:

https://imgur.com/nIoraXz.png

The Stakeout is closer. Just add the trigger and safety from the Duty and a set of Pachmayr grips.

https://tisasusa.com/tisas-1911-stakeout-45/


They're describing the hammer as a "rounded spur hammer" but that's not what I understand to be a spur hammer.

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Link Posted: 6/29/2023 3:36:34 PM EST
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They're describing the hammer as a "rounded spur hammer" but that's not what I understand to be a spur hammer.

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I don't know what a Rounded Spur hammer is, but that's a Commander hammer on there. Pretty much standard fare with a beavertail.
Link Posted: 6/29/2023 3:38:46 PM EST
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They're describing the hammer as a "rounded spur hammer" but that's not what I understand to be a spur hammer.

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AKA Nowlin hammer.
Link Posted: 6/29/2023 9:42:41 PM EST
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Here are pics of mine.  Plan on taking it out this weekend.  





Link Posted: 6/29/2023 10:27:39 PM EST
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Here are pics of mine.  Plan on taking it out this weekend.  

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Nice. Mine should be in tomorrow.

What mags come with it?
Link Posted: 6/29/2023 10:45:20 PM EST
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Nice. Mine should be in tomorrow.

What mags come with it?
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Here are pics of mine.  Plan on taking it out this weekend.  

https://i.imgur.com/9zLMQ1x.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/du5RrBx.jpg

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Nice. Mine should be in tomorrow.

What mags come with it?


It came with 2 8 round Mec Gar mags.
Link Posted: 6/30/2023 3:50:28 AM EST
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Good grief gentlemen, leave some for the rest of us.


Seriously looking forward to the range reports from you guys that already got one! The pictures are sure making my resolve weak.

I don't really want to cheap out, I want a solid 1911 because I'd like to get back into actually carrying it. I can't spring for a hand built one. I had some miles on a Springfield Loaded a long time ago, and was originally looking for another of those but still have a little grudge about that black mark SA earned with the politics thing. I probably would have let it go if I found a good one. The itch to replace it is getting pretty bad.

Trouble is, now it seems that things have changed quite a bit and the solid recommends have updated somewhat. I've been hearing so many glowing reviews about these Turk guns, Rugers, RIA, etc its hard to overlook them, especially when accompanied with some horror stories with pictures about companies that used to be considered a sure thing. Is mostly better marketing? Hard to say. Hopefully whatever I land on will work out. Its not real easy for me to get gunsmithing or warranty work done.
Link Posted: 6/30/2023 8:12:35 AM EST
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Here are pics of mine.  Plan on taking it out this weekend.  

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That looks really good.

If you don't mind can post a sight picture.  I'd like to see how the brass dot looks when using the sights.

Maybe I missed it, but do we know why Tisas didn't use their normal frame with the undercut trigger guard area?  It doesn't really matter for functionality, but I am curious why...

I really wish I didn't click on this thread...
Link Posted: 6/30/2023 10:37:06 AM EST
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@HD2006
That looks really good.

If you don't mind can post a sight picture.  I'd like to see how the brass dot looks when using the sights.

Maybe I missed it, but do we know why Tisas didn't use their normal frame with the undercut trigger guard area?  It doesn't really matter for functionality, but I am curious why...

I really wish I didn't click on this thread...
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Here are pics of mine.  Plan on taking it out this weekend.  

https://i.imgur.com/9zLMQ1x.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/du5RrBx.jpg

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@HD2006
That looks really good.

If you don't mind can post a sight picture.  I'd like to see how the brass dot looks when using the sights.

Maybe I missed it, but do we know why Tisas didn't use their normal frame with the undercut trigger guard area?  It doesn't really matter for functionality, but I am curious why...

I really wish I didn't click on this thread...


I can post a picture later today of the sight picture. The brass dot looks really good actually.  

No idea on the frame.
Link Posted: 6/30/2023 11:05:03 AM EST
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The Turkiye (sp? w/e don't care) under the dust cover kills it for me. Nice 1911 regardless.
Link Posted: 6/30/2023 11:21:12 AM EST
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The Turkiye (sp? w/e don't care) under the dust cover kills it for me. Nice 1911 regardless.
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That’s apparently the new spelling.  I don’t mind the marking there, it’s discreet and better then on the side of the pistol. It’s made in Turkey or Turkiye or whatever, so it has to be marked somewhere on it.
Link Posted: 6/30/2023 1:28:10 PM EST
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The Turkiye (sp? w/e don't care) under the dust cover kills it for me. Nice 1911 regardless.

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That's apparently the new spelling.  I don't mind the marking there, it's discreet and better then on the side of the pistol. It's made in Turkey or Turkiye or whatever, so it has to be marked somewhere on it.
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Yeah, that's there by federal law as well as the importer marked on the side.



Link Posted: 6/30/2023 4:17:20 PM EST
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I don't know what a Rounded Spur hammer is, but that's a Commander hammer on there. Pretty much standard fare with a beavertail.
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They're describing the hammer as a "rounded spur hammer" but that's not what I understand to be a spur hammer.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/171243/RSH_jpg-2868001.JPG
I don't know what a Rounded Spur hammer is, but that's a Commander hammer on there. Pretty much standard fare with a beavertail.

That is what is called a Ring hammer, same one that is on my Service Special. A commander hammer has an ovaled out hole in it I do believe. I like it better than the Spur hammer because it doesn't have teeth and bite you.
Link Posted: 6/30/2023 6:46:53 PM EST
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That is what is called a Ring hammer, same one that is on my Service Special. A commander hammer has an ovaled out hole in it I do believe. I like it better than the Spur hammer because it doesn't have teeth and bite you.
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The original Colt Commander from the 1950s through the 70's had a round hammer. Later, Colt (I think in the 90's) and other manufacturers went with the oval style used by the custom gunsmiths.

This video from Brownells shows a beautiful 1951 Commander.

From the Vault: U.S. Army C.I.C. Colt 1911 Commander

Link Posted: 6/30/2023 7:16:56 PM EST
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This is my Springfield with a spur hammer:

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Link Posted: 7/1/2023 8:13:05 AM EST
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I don't know what a Rounded Spur hammer is, but that's a Commander hammer on there. Pretty much standard fare with a beavertail.
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They're describing the hammer as a "rounded spur hammer" but that's not what I understand to be a spur hammer.

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I don't know what a Rounded Spur hammer is, but that's a Commander hammer on there. Pretty much standard fare with a beavertail.
Technically that is a round spur hammer, but yes, I would call it a Commander hammer also.  They might just be trying to stay away from using any Colt specific names when describing their products.
Link Posted: 7/1/2023 9:19:29 AM EST
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I have their GI .45 that was a blem sale from Centerfire Systems. Damn good gun. Paid less than $250 for it.
Link Posted: 7/1/2023 9:24:41 AM EST
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Forged slide and frame

tool steel internals

checked front strap

crowned stainless steel barrel

nitride finish

Nice sights

Even if you need to tweak it a bit and slick it up you are still way ahead money wise. Looks to be a hell of a value!

It’s got a lot more going for it than the raider for not much more money.
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Very impressive. I guess if I didn't want to spend money I should not be reading the gun board. This is definitely on my short list to add to my 1911 stable that is slowly building.
Link Posted: 7/1/2023 10:51:41 AM EST
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That's literally-exactly the only place where writing belongs on this... and required by law.

That's an exciting offering if they can drop the modern Knife-MAC logo and clean up the ads.

On the hammer- the spur is the part that engages your thumb, and there are several different types:

GI Spur
Wide Spur (old GI)
Round Spur (Commander)
etc... etc...

Link Posted: 7/1/2023 5:30:08 PM EST
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Well, I just ordered a MAC last night.  As much chatter there has been about this model, I figured I better jump on one before everybody is sold out.  This will make my 3rd Tisas in addition to my Raider and Tank Commander.
Link Posted: 7/3/2023 12:03:34 AM EST
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Have any of you early adopters got some rounds downrange with it? I'm intently anticipating some anecdotes about how this thing does in real life. I'd like to get back into a 1911 I can actually carry, but it's not as easy to free up a sizable chunk out of the budget as it used to be. This just might be the way to make it happen.
Link Posted: 7/3/2023 11:00:59 AM EST
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I’m at 200rds so far…. Not one issue so far using 230gr ball. I haven’t tried any JHPs.

I did have the trigger slightly worked and a better crown on the barrel. It’s been extremely accurate. For the money this is a great gun
Link Posted: 7/20/2023 3:21:26 PM EST
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I've been eyeing one of these for awhile now. A couple questions come to mind.

1. Has anyone purchased a holster for the JSOC yet? I am worried that tall front sight might make it harder to find the right holster.

2. Has Tisas eliminated the MIM parts on this gun as they have on others they build or do these come with MIM parts?

@SDSImports
Link Posted: 7/21/2023 5:38:06 AM EST
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I've been eyeing one of these for awhile now. A couple questions come to mind.

1. Has anyone purchased a holster for the JSOC yet? I am worried that tall front sight might make it harder to find the right holster.

2. Has Tisas eliminated the MIM parts on this gun as they have on others they build or do these come with MIM parts?

@SDSImports
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I'd be more concerned about the rear sight as far as holster fitment goes.
Link Posted: 7/21/2023 3:52:18 PM EST
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Yeah, the rear sight is more of a problem.  However, the Galco Avenger holster cut for a red dot sight works perfect for me.
Link Posted: 7/21/2023 4:11:01 PM EST
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It looks like it would work in a lot of standard holsters.  I  was just getting send one of my guns in for a forward Bomar install before and realized it wouldn't fit any of my Milt Sparks holsters.
Link Posted: 7/21/2023 4:20:49 PM EST
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I’m using the same holster, works great.

As others have said, the front sight is no issue the rear needs an optic cut or low cut type holster.

No MIM parts except the recoil spring plug.

Such a nice pistol for the money.

Mine is currently getting the 10-8 duty tune treatment.
Link Posted: 7/21/2023 4:41:15 PM EST
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I’ve had mine for a few weeks.  I’m finally getting a chance to take it out tomorrow. I’ll post up how it goes.
Link Posted: 7/21/2023 11:31:41 PM EST
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Thanks for the answers guys.  Looks like I need to free up some funds.
Link Posted: 7/22/2023 10:35:52 AM EST
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What is MAC?
Link Posted: 7/22/2023 11:04:16 AM EST
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A subsidiary of Tisas, like SDS is... kinda.

https://sdsimports.com/mac-1911-jsoc-45/

https://milarmamentcorp.com/mac-1911-jsoc-45/
Link Posted: 7/22/2023 10:09:14 PM EST
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Well crap; I just found this thread today and had to find one.

I have 2 Tisas 1911s already.  They have been great and I have no issues with them.

I plan on shooting at Camp Perry in the 1911 matches next year and needed to find one with an adjustable sight.  This fits the bill nicely.

Found one and pulled the trigger tonight.  Can’t wait to put it through its paces.

Finally, for those of you questioning the quality and price of these guns, let me help.  The Turks are very good gun makers having learned from the likes of Colt and H&K.  I haves the 2 1911s I already mentioned plus an AP-5 and AP-5P MP5/MP5K-PDW clones.  Those have been great guns too.  So why so cheap?  It’s all about the exchange rate and the Turkish Lira has been in the toilet relative to the US Dollar for several years.  This won’t always be the case, so buy while you can.
Link Posted: 7/26/2023 10:24:38 AM EST
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Some Uber-Fudd fake Colonel price gouger who spouts off about stuff he knows nothing about.

Also, a legendary manufacturer of firearms that pitched some noteworthy designs during the Cold War. They had a complete weapons system- with suppressor- that was cheap, reliable, compact/ concealable, etc. IF they could have slowed it down with a modern tungsten alloy bolt, mounted an Armson OEG, and a few other tweaks, it would have made a bigger splash, IMO.

Also, what the other poster said in Post #31.
Link Posted: 7/29/2023 4:11:59 PM EST
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Did you have to trim those grips at all?



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I went with the retro grip that I imagine these would have sported in the 80s and 90s. Much like the MEU-SOC did.

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Link Posted: 7/29/2023 7:31:14 PM EST
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Getting there…

The trigger on mine was 6.5 pounds of mediocrity.

Now it is 4.5 pounds of awesome.

Finished:



Link Posted: 7/29/2023 10:22:28 PM EST
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No trimming was required


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I went with the retro grip that I imagine these would have sported in the 80s and 90s. Much like the MEU-SOC did.

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Link Posted: 7/29/2023 10:52:43 PM EST
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That is very very nice looking
Link Posted: 7/29/2023 11:22:36 PM EST
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Thanks, just waiting on an EGW, stainless bushing and it will be a wrap.

Then a shake down to see how she does.

The machine work on these is excellent. Only had a small area on the breech face that needed dressed. The factory extractor is of good quality but needed tuned. All and all these pistols are a good value.
Link Posted: 7/30/2023 10:57:26 AM EST
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Wow that looks great
Link Posted: 7/30/2023 8:50:17 PM EST
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The trigger on mine was 6.5 pounds of mediocrity.

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What hammer is that?
Link Posted: 7/30/2023 9:35:34 PM EST
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Extreme Engineering classic commander with the hole drilled out.
Link Posted: 7/30/2023 9:36:17 PM EST
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Thanks
Link Posted: 7/30/2023 11:53:28 PM EST
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That's really good looking. Hearing it has a mediocre trigger out of the box is a little disappointing. Isn't that a primary reason for going with a 1911?
Link Posted: 7/31/2023 8:01:41 AM EST
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That's really good looking. Hearing it has a mediocre trigger out of the box is a little disappointing. Isn't that a primary reason for going with a 1911?
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Except when you hang around 1911’s a long time and become a trigger snob.

The factory trigger was perfectly serviceable and better than a plastic striker trigger.

I don’t like set screw adjustable triggers so that’s what got the party started. Setting up a 1911 how you like it is part of the fun and “expense”.

The factory parts are tool steel so it wouldn’t take much to get a nice trigger by stoning and a little sear spring tuning.
Link Posted: 7/31/2023 7:39:56 PM EST
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Are parkerized bits hard to find? Like  GI and Commander recoil spring plugs and a GI thumb safety.  Maybe even a park'd ambi safety.

Been considering this MAC since they became available. But also just got a Commander "Tank Commander" in .45 that's parkerized!
Link Posted: 8/22/2023 2:30:54 PM EST
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Would someone with a MAC JSOC mind measuring from the end of the slide to the front of the Rear Sight? I am having R. Grizzle custom make a Workin Man holster for me and they need to have that measurement.

Thanks!

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from the end of the slide to the front of the rear sight.  5-17/32"

from the bushing to the front of the rear sight is. 5-5/8"
Link Posted: 8/22/2023 2:49:36 PM EST
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from the end of the slide to the front of the rear sight.  5-17/32"

from the bushing to the front of the rear sight is. 5-5/8"
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Would someone with a MAC JSOC mind measuring from the end of the slide to the front of the Rear Sight? I am having R. Grizzle custom make a Workin Man holster for me and they need to have that measurement.

Thanks!

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from the end of the slide to the front of the rear sight.  5-17/32"

from the bushing to the front of the rear sight is. 5-5/8"


Wow, that was fast. Thanks a bunch!
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No problem....

and it was only because I just happened to login and was finger f'n the JSOC at the same time....



(really was about to pull it apart to adjust my sear spring a bit more)
Link Posted: 8/22/2023 3:09:06 PM EST
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I'm wearing a Ryan Grizzle working man as we speak. You might be fine with his normal design. If anything it might just keep it snug.

Get the horsehide too. It's nature's kydex.

Honestly I've got a JSOC in a cart and I'm about to order. If I did I'd expect to utilize this holster. If it doesn't work then I may not even entertain the thought.
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