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It's a sad state of affairs when a gun owner doesn't recognize a Browning Hi-Power. The sadder part is the stories I read were identifying it as a 1911. Heard a news caster refer to it at a revolver so... The news anchors are the most retarded groups of people that can barely read a teleprompter. I've head them refer to pistols as fully automatic that were not and call revolvers semi-automatic. I realize there is 1 semi-automatic revolver type in existence but it is so rare I seriously doubt they were correct about the perp using a semi-automatic revolver since they rarely get all the facts strait to begin with. |
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It's a sad state of affairs when a gun owner doesn't recognize a Browning Hi-Power. This! So true, so true........ A very nice one at that |
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Im 19, and ive known what a hi power is for about 18 and a half years. not all of us are hopeless.
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It's a sad state of affairs when a gun owner doesn't recognize a Browning Hi-Power. No shit, pretty damn easy ID. |
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It's a sad state of affairs when a gun owner doesn't recognize a Browning Hi-Power. |
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Is that the loaded chamber indicator with somebodies finger on the trigger and a hand over the muzzle? That's the external extractor - introduced sometime in the 50s. While the display of gun safety in that picture is non-existent, the BHP can't be loaded with the hammer down unless one were to drop the hammer on a loaded chamber. However, the BHP does have a firing pin block so it would also be "safe". Quoted:
The serial appears to be 511MPXXXXX which makes it an '08 model. The slide does say Made in Belgium. So does USA only get the "Assembled in Portugal ones?" now? The Ren models are still all belgium IIRC |
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That is one SWEET Tokarev! OP. You MUST turn in your Man Card immediately! |
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I wonder what that could go for in auction... If it had Mummar's blood on it, a small fortune! |
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I am not a big fan of bling but I must coment that this gun is a better example of rich guy bling than ghetto bling
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Quoted: Man card now. You dont know what a Highpower looks like Seriously..... Nothing snobbish about it.
Almost all modern pistols have something that was original to the Hi Power design. |
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All of us learned what an FN Hi-Power was at one point or another in our lives! I don't have one yet but will surely own one someday.
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Most gun owners that 35+ know what a BHP is. Those that are younger I can see not knowing what it is. To many "wonder" 9s on the market to know what a relic wonder 9 is. I'm 26 and I recognized it immediately. I own a Belgian BHP. Mine is blued, though. I'm not fond of gold. |
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So now, just a minute here. Isn't the hi power the improved version of the 1911?* I think the OP was on the right track!
* Just ask John Moses |
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http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2011/10/21/1226172/551574-111021-mideast-libya.jpg Its just as sad that 3-pages into this, nobody has identified that it is, in fact, an FN MKIII. The sight profile and ambi-safety are dead giveaways. Old Ghadaffi was actually armed with some sort of short barrel revolver when he was caught. He had the golden gun stuffed in a sack tucked into his belt He didn't fire any rounds from either gun. I personally expected more from the blowhard,,, |
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My guess was BHP before I even saw the photo. The Browning Hi Power is to the rest of the world what the 1911 is to the USA.
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It's a sad state of affairs when a gun owner doesn't recognize a Browning Hi-Power. THIS External ejector plus wide ambi safety would make it a Mk III I believe. |
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Looks like maybe a Mark III.
Looks like my Mark III anyway. Except for the wood grips. Oh yea, and the gold! |
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When bagging on how bad someone's gun recognition skills are, it's poor form to get things wrong yourself. It's an external EXTRACTOR, not ejector.
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It's a sad state of affairs when a gun owner doesn't recognize a Browning Hi-Power. THIS External ejector plus wide ambi safety would make it a Mk III I believe. And that is a made in Belgium, assembled in Portugal Hi Power; definitely a Mk III and probably a Mk IIIS. BHP's are HIGHLY regarded in the Middle East for their reliability in the fine sand of the ME. The Hi Power is BY FAR the most widely used military pistol in the history of handguns. It is a fantastically successful pistol, with reliability unsurpassed by any gun. That is my OPINION not a statement of fact. But I have been around the block a few times in the gun world, and I'm here to say that in the reliability department, I've never seen anything top the 9mm Browning Hi Power; specifically the post-1980 guns with the flat style feed ramp. For reliability in bad conditions, I'll put the BHP against a Glock even; they're damn reliable. Everyone says the triggers suck, and compared to a 1911 they do, But the worst Hi Power trigger is still better than an out of the box Glock's trigger. The Hi Power's trigger is very similar to a two stage trigger on a military Mauser rifle. Some take up, then a crisp, but somewhat heavy break; typically somewhere between 5-7lbs (depending on manufacturer). And also contrary to popular wives tales, it's not especially hard to tune a HP's trigger to be truely excellent; it's just that there are far fewer Hi Power experts out there With all that love gushing over with, now the down side. The Hi Power was created LONG before the advent of NATO or +P pressure ammo, and consequently the Hi Power doesn’t survive +P ammo for long. I personally think +P in 9mm is a complete waste of time, but hey, that’s just me. The locking cam block on a Hi Power is pressed into a fairly thin section of the frame. NATO pressure 9mm will eventually cause this to set back in the frame, ruining the gun. Also, of all the full sized 9mm pistols out there, the Hi Power has the lightest weight slide, and again; when used with NATO pressure ammunition, you WILL eventually crack the slide. What the Hi Power really has going for it is its ergonomics; which take a back seat to nothing. For a full sized military automatic, the Hi Power is easily the most inherently “shootable” pistol out there. It’s a damn fine gun. There are some other minor annoyances of the Hi Power, but if you feed it a steady diet of STANDARD pressure 9mm, it will last you a couple lifetimes. NO pistol is perfect, but to my mind the Hi Power is far closer to “perfection” than most. |
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When bagging on how bad someone's gun recognition skills are, it's poor form to get things wrong yourself. It's an external EXTRACTOR, not ejector.
External ejector plus wide ambi safety would make it a Mk III I believe. [/quote] You are correct, and I am full of shame. Given how reliable my 1911s are, and how unreliable my Hi-power is, I've always believed the switch from an EE to an IE was a mistake. |
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It's a sad state of affairs when a gun owner doesn't recognize a Browning Hi-Power. Agreed. +1 |
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Well at least the OP now knows what it is. Not everyone knows each pistol type by sight. Or have been into our hobby as long as others there is always something to learn. Still Gadhafi HAD a pretty slick looking BHP It's not a hobby, but a way of life |
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Looks like this guy is about ready to shoot his buddies fuckin face off.....trigger guard discipline Abdul |
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Most gun owners that 35+ know what a BHP is. Those that are younger I can see not knowing what it is. To many "wonder" 9s on the market to know what a relic wonder 9 is. I'm 26 and I recognized it immediately. I own a Belgian BHP. Mine is blued, though. I'm not fond of gold. I'm 20 ...and mine is also stained with my own blood. Lol hammer bite? Web of my hand is finally toughening up to ignore it. |
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...What the Hi Power really has going for it is its ergonomics; which take a back seat to nothing. For a full sized military automatic, the Hi Power is easily the most inherently “shootable” pistol out there. It’s a damn fine gun. There are some other minor annoyances of the Hi Power, but if you feed it a steady diet of STANDARD pressure 9mm, it will last you a couple lifetimes. NO pistol is perfect, but to my mind the Hi Power is far closer to “perfection” than most. Damn, man. A complete, all-encompassing Browning High Power love rant. Well done. |
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Man card now. You dont know what a Highpower looks like I had to think about it myself for a second. All the engraving probably made it difficult. I don;t know anybody who owns one, never owned one myself and the one or two 'internet board friends' who have bought one sold them within the year. I guess I am sayin you just don't see them often.......and the massive engraving obscures the obvious a bit. |
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Again, old Moan&die had that High Power stuffed in a bag he had with him.
He was actually carrying a snub nosed revolver when captured that looked like an electroless nickled Colt Python or Diamondback. I have only come across two screen shots of the actual revolver and both are of fairly poor quality. |
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The Hi Power was created LONG before the advent of NATO or +P pressure ammo, and consequently the Hi Power doesn’t survive +P ammo for long. I personally think +P in 9mm is a complete waste of time, but hey, that’s just me. The locking cam block on a Hi Power is pressed into a fairly thin section of the frame. NATO pressure 9mm will eventually cause this to set back in the frame, ruining the gun. Also, of all the full sized 9mm pistols out there, the Hi Power has the lightest weight slide, and again; when used with NATO pressure ammunition, you WILL eventually crack the slide. What the Hi Power really has going for it is its ergonomics; which take a back seat to nothing. For a full sized military automatic, the Hi Power is easily the most inherently “shootable” pistol out there. It’s a damn fine gun. There are some other minor annoyances of the Hi Power, but if you feed it a steady diet of STANDARD pressure 9mm, it will last you a couple lifetimes. NO pistol is perfect, but to my mind the Hi Power is far closer to “perfection” than most. That's what the .40S&W is for. My wife had her heart set on a Springfield XD until I showed her a used BHP .40. She was reluctant to even look at it until I gave her some history on it. That was several years ago and it's still hers to this day. |
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It's a sad state of affairs when a gun owner doesn't recognize a Browning Hi-Power. I agree, If you can't recognize a HP you could unknowingly end up with one of the damn things. |
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Gadaffi's HP was most likely part of a 2009 arms deal between Belgium and Libya, along with F2000's and FN 303's. http://atwar.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/12/28/tracking-belgian-weapons-in-libya/ |
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