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Quoted: Fucking nutjob really thinks not giving him other peoples money is stealing from him, the entitlement is unreal. i dont think anybody is worried about russia anymore. They wouldn't even make it through poland. View Quote And then Russia would be on natos Door step. That’s a problem. |
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[#2]
Quoted: Demanding little fucker isn’t he. Maybe Azov will remove him like they’ve said View Quote Attached File |
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[#3]
Quoted: Just out of stupid curiosity, is there, or has there been an accounting of the hardware PLUS finances sent to Ukraine from the world at large? Not that I’m a distrustful soul but a lesser man, or smarter man, (I’m unsure which) might be tempted to try his/her hand at laundering. Is the outcome of this relatively certain at this point? The long game favors Putin, we know this. It’s clear many Ukrainians aren’t going to capitulate to Russia, so do they become Lebanon or Syria for the next 10 tears? Nothing about this indicates it’s winding down. Guerrilla warfare can last years, as we’ve seen first hand. Given that, how does it help the US to drag this out for years? Aside from the obvious, what is the end game? View Quote I want a tally for how many times ARF military members and larpers have splooged since the conception of this conflict. |
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[#4]
Quoted: His bank account is certainly growing. And the ones behind him surely have very big ones that keep growing everyday. And the more "assistance" the world sends to Ukraine, the bigger they get. How much Zelensky said he "needed"? $750bi? View Quote So a guy who is a president of a large European country isn’t getting paid his normal salary? |
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[#6]
Quoted: I have yet to see any proof of this on as wide a scale as people allege. The biggest evidence against it is that russians keep running forward in this mortal plane and waking up in the next with no clue what happened. It is glorious. And it will keep going until Ukraine is free. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: And they get a sizable percentage of whatever they send there. Best part, laundered clean, since that's the purpose of that country's existence. I have yet to see any proof of this on as wide a scale as people allege. The biggest evidence against it is that russians keep running forward in this mortal plane and waking up in the next with no clue what happened. It is glorious. And it will keep going until Ukraine is free. Some say thats overly optimistic. But nah, I'm sure its just a weird coincidence that whenever the US Injects a fresh stream of cash to Ukraine... several of their politicians end up getting caught at border crossings with millions of dollars in their briefcase. Everyone knows that the US Government's dealings are filled with corruption, graft, kickbacks etc. |
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[#7]
Quoted: Quoted: Proof? You are aware that the purpose of money laundering, if done competently, is to not let any proofs, aren't you? Considering who is behind Ukraine's "Laundromat", we know they are very competent at this. And most likely heavily invested in that operation, hence all the marketing involved in the "free Ukraine!" campaign, which efficiently brainwashed the feeble minds. Besides, even if there was enough proof, it would be mopped under some rug, as we have seen with so many cases involving many figures backing Ukraine. We also know that Russia is controlled by oligarchs, which are their equivalent of the gang backing Ukraine. They also surely have their means to launder their money and mop evidence and proof under their own rugs. So, neither side is clean in that shitshow. They are the same shit with different covers. Are they laundering money too? |
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[#8]
Quoted: Its the US Government. I heard figures that somewhere like 30% of the funding actually ends up being used for the intended purpose. Some say thats overly optimistic. But nah, I'm sure its just a weird coincidence that whenever the US Injects a fresh stream of cash to Ukraine... several of their politicians end up getting caught at border crossings with millions of dollars in their briefcase. Everyone knows that the US Government's dealings are filled with corruption, graft, kickbacks etc. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Its the US Government. I heard figures that somewhere like 30% of the funding actually ends up being used for the intended purpose. Some say thats overly optimistic. But nah, I'm sure its just a weird coincidence that whenever the US Injects a fresh stream of cash to Ukraine... several of their politicians end up getting caught at border crossings with millions of dollars in their briefcase. Everyone knows that the US Government's dealings are filled with corruption, graft, kickbacks etc. Yet nobody has ever provided proof. Will some stuff be lost? Sure. It’s a battlefield. Folks don’t complain when military stuff falls off the truck here. Quoted: You're sending money to Ukraine? Sure have. |
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[#12]
Quoted: Yet nobody has ever provided proof. Will some stuff be lost? Sure. It's a battlefield. Folks don't complain when military stuff falls off the truck here. Sure have. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Its the US Government. I heard figures that somewhere like 30% of the funding actually ends up being used for the intended purpose. Some say thats overly optimistic. But nah, I'm sure its just a weird coincidence that whenever the US Injects a fresh stream of cash to Ukraine... several of their politicians end up getting caught at border crossings with millions of dollars in their briefcase. Everyone knows that the US Government's dealings are filled with corruption, graft, kickbacks etc. Yet nobody has ever provided proof. Will some stuff be lost? Sure. It's a battlefield. Folks don't complain when military stuff falls off the truck here. Quoted: You're sending money to Ukraine? Sure have. How much should we print? Should we print until a rice and beans dinner costs $50 while the wages stagnate? The prices of food at the grocery store are getting INSANE. America is facing an existential crisis over inflation. You think January 6 is bad? Wait until everyday Americans have to choose between keeping the power on, feeding their kid's stomachs, or putting gas in their tank to get to work. I' have an idea of what side of the caution tape you'll be on when that day happens. |
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[#13]
Quoted: The guy is a hero. He's done what many here fetishize, telling Brandon and Putin no View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Fuck you Zelensky. The guy is a hero. He's done what many here fetishize, telling Brandon and Putin no |
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[#14]
Yeah? What's he going to do about it? Go around and beg some more?
I can't wait to see him in front of a Russian (or Ukrainian) firing squad. I have little doubt he doesn't see that or the inside of a jail cell before the decade is out. |
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[#16]
Quoted: I’d love to see proof The same guy he told to pound sand and he wasn’t abandoning his country? Yeah…sure View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: The dude probably donated money to the Biden Campaign. Get a grip. I’d love to see proof The same guy he told to pound sand and he wasn’t abandoning his country? Yeah…sure How blind do you have to be to forget we do not live in an era of “proof” anymore? What proof do we have that you are not a foreigner running an account? See? Now go back to watching your osint updates. |
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[#17]
Quoted: The guy is a hero. He’s done what many here fetishize, telling Brandon and Putin no View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Fuck you Zelensky. The guy is a hero. He’s done what many here fetishize, telling Brandon and Putin no Umm, maybe to his people. To Americans? Attached File |
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[#18]
Quoted: I am now convinced that the only reason the US keeps handing over wheelbarrows of money is that certain US govt officials are terrified that Zelensky will spill the beans on some of their corrupt schemes that used Ukraine to wash/launder their money. View Quote And bank accounts are getting fat. Defense contractors and politicians love war and when there is no threat to them they love it more. |
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[#22]
Quoted: But they are not doing nearly enough considering it is their ass on the line. View Quote Like Poland sending almost 500 tanks? "not doing enough". Who is not doing enough? Germany? Yes. Italy? Yes. France? Yes. Baltics? Poland? UK? Norway? They're punching above their weight. Certainly more than us. |
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[#23]
Quoted: IDK, I've been here since 2004 and plenty of people know me View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: How blind do you have to be to forget we do not live in an era of “proof” anymore? What proof do we have that you are not a foreigner running an account? See? Now go back to watching your osint updates. IDK, I've been here since 2004 and plenty of people know me Keep worshipping a foreign leader |
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[#24]
This guy... He is a candidate for worlds biggest extortionist.
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[#25]
Quoted: Like Poland sending almost 500 tanks? "not doing enough". Who is not doing enough? Germany? Yes. Italy? Yes. France? Yes. Baltics? Poland? UK? Norway? They're punching above their weight. Certainly more than us. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: But they are not doing nearly enough considering it is their ass on the line. Like Poland sending almost 500 tanks? "not doing enough". Who is not doing enough? Germany? Yes. Italy? Yes. France? Yes. Baltics? Poland? UK? Norway? They're punching above their weight. Certainly more than us. Nobody gives a shit. 300 million people in this country couldn’t point out those countries on a map if you asked them to. Nobody cares. |
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Quoted: Nobody gives a shit. 300 million people in this country couldn’t point out those countries on a map if you asked them to. Nobody cares. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: But they are not doing nearly enough considering it is their ass on the line. Like Poland sending almost 500 tanks? "not doing enough". Who is not doing enough? Germany? Yes. Italy? Yes. France? Yes. Baltics? Poland? UK? Norway? They're punching above their weight. Certainly more than us. Nobody gives a shit. 300 million people in this country couldn’t point out those countries on a map if you asked them to. Nobody cares. you sure seem to care alot.. that people have opinions other than yours and you seem to get very triggered by it also.. I think you spend way to much energy worrying about what others think and do. I see others here attacking and calling names and making inuendo's and such against others with differing opinions, yet none of those attacking share any factual data to back up there opinions.. so its definitely not hard to see the fools in this thread...lol |
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[#27]
Quoted: Nobody gives a shit. 300 million people in this country couldn’t point out those countries on a map if you asked them to. Nobody cares. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Nobody gives a shit. 300 million people in this country couldn’t point out those countries on a map if you asked them to. Nobody cares. Except plenty of people do. It's a bipartisan support. Most democrats AND republicans are supportive of Ukraine. Quoted: Keep worshipping a foreign leader How am I worshipping a foreign leader? |
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[#28]
Quoted: Which is exactly why they should be footing most of the bill and not us. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: In Europe’s best interests to fight Russia in Ukraine with Ukrainians. We are in a geographically advantageous position and have no powerful hostile neighbors, we have taken this for granted for a very long time. We also don’t HAVE to rely on alliance defense for survival but others rely on us. European history is very different from ours and makes it hard to comprehend what’s currently happening there. Which is exactly why they should be footing most of the bill and not us. Yup. The 60 billion should have went to the southern border instead. It could have also been used for a thousand purposes better than sending it to Ukraine where 70% doesn't even make it to the front line. Ukraine-Russia is in Europe's hemisphere and it their problem more than anyone else's. The invasion at the southern border is what should be number 1, followed by inflation at 2, empty shelves at 3..............................Ukraine somewhere after a thousand other issues. Those who are ALL about Ukraine should go fly over there and enlist - they take volunteers after all, rather than demand that be the priority for where the taxes and national attention goes. |
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[#29]
Quoted: Yup. The 60 billion should have went to the southern border instead. It could have also been used for a thousand purposes better than sending it to Ukraine where 70% doesn't even make it to the front line. Ukraine-Russia is in Europe's hemisphere and it their problem more than anyone else's. The invasion at the southern border is what should be number 1, followed by inflation at 2, empty shelves at 3..............................Ukraine somewhere after a thousand other issues. Those who are ALL about Ukraine should go fly over there and enlist - they take volunteers after all, rather than demand that be the priority for where the taxes and national attention goes. View Quote Are you saying the same USA that has plans for 2 simultaneous conflicts and has some very smart people can't find the time and effort to overcome more than one problem at a time? |
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[#30]
Quoted: Yup. The 60 billion should have went to the southern border instead. It could have also been used for a thousand purposes better than sending it to Ukraine where 70% doesn't even make it to the front line. Ukraine-Russia is in Europe's hemisphere and it their problem more than anyone else's. The invasion at the southern border is what should be number 1, followed by inflation at 2, empty shelves at 3..............................Ukraine somewhere after a thousand other issues. Those who are ALL about Ukraine should go fly over there and enlist - they take volunteers after all, rather than demand that be the priority for where the taxes and national attention goes. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: In Europe’s best interests to fight Russia in Ukraine with Ukrainians. We are in a geographically advantageous position and have no powerful hostile neighbors, we have taken this for granted for a very long time. We also don’t HAVE to rely on alliance defense for survival but others rely on us. European history is very different from ours and makes it hard to comprehend what’s currently happening there. Which is exactly why they should be footing most of the bill and not us. Yup. The 60 billion should have went to the southern border instead. It could have also been used for a thousand purposes better than sending it to Ukraine where 70% doesn't even make it to the front line. Ukraine-Russia is in Europe's hemisphere and it their problem more than anyone else's. The invasion at the southern border is what should be number 1, followed by inflation at 2, empty shelves at 3..............................Ukraine somewhere after a thousand other issues. Those who are ALL about Ukraine should go fly over there and enlist - they take volunteers after all, rather than demand that be the priority for where the taxes and national attention goes. Have you called your representative and voiced your concerns or just posted on social media and complained about it? |
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[#31]
Quoted: Like Poland sending almost 500 tanks? "not doing enough". Who is not doing enough? Germany? Yes. Italy? Yes. France? Yes. Baltics? Poland? UK? Norway? They're punching above their weight. Certainly more than us. View Quote With the possible exception of Poland none of them are "punching above their weight". https://www.statista.com/statistics/1303432/total-bilateral-aid-to-ukraine/ https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2022/04/19/which-country-has-given-the-most-money-to-ukraine |
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[#32]
Quoted: Nice. Do you always post russian propaganda fakes when drunk? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Nice. Do you always post russian propaganda fakes when drunk? That joke sailed so far over your head it's in orbit. |
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[#33]
Quoted: you sure seem to care alot.. that people have opinions other than yours and you seem to get very triggered by it also.. I think you spend way to much energy worrying about what others think and do. I see others here attacking and calling names and making inuendo's and such against others with differing opinions, yet none of those attacking share any factual data to back up there opinions.. so its definitely not hard to see the fools in this thread...lol View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: But they are not doing nearly enough considering it is their ass on the line. Like Poland sending almost 500 tanks? "not doing enough". Who is not doing enough? Germany? Yes. Italy? Yes. France? Yes. Baltics? Poland? UK? Norway? They're punching above their weight. Certainly more than us. Nobody gives a shit. 300 million people in this country couldn’t point out those countries on a map if you asked them to. Nobody cares. you sure seem to care alot.. that people have opinions other than yours and you seem to get very triggered by it also.. I think you spend way to much energy worrying about what others think and do. I see others here attacking and calling names and making inuendo's and such against others with differing opinions, yet none of those attacking share any factual data to back up there opinions.. so its definitely not hard to see the fools in this thread...lol Care? You sure seem to care a lot. I seem to notice the laughable positions adults cement themselves into to feel purpose, then need to double down and act holier than thou. |
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[#34]
Quoted: Are you saying the same USA that has plans for 2 simultaneous conflicts and has some very smart people can't find the time and effort to overcome more than one problem at a time? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Yup. The 60 billion should have went to the southern border instead. It could have also been used for a thousand purposes better than sending it to Ukraine where 70% doesn't even make it to the front line. Ukraine-Russia is in Europe's hemisphere and it their problem more than anyone else's. The invasion at the southern border is what should be number 1, followed by inflation at 2, empty shelves at 3..............................Ukraine somewhere after a thousand other issues. Those who are ALL about Ukraine should go fly over there and enlist - they take volunteers after all, rather than demand that be the priority for where the taxes and national attention goes. Are you saying the same USA that has plans for 2 simultaneous conflicts and has some very smart people can't find the time and effort to overcome more than one problem at a time? Border is wide open, so you must be joking. Ukraine is the priority, illegals are the priority, going after Trump with witch hunts is the priority - doing good things for the people is NOT the priority. 60 billion to a foreign country when this one is seeing record inflation, empty shelves, crime, is bullshit. And yes, Biden's regime has proven that they can't manage more than one thing at a time as 70% of goods sent to Ukraine don't even make it to the front lines. That's their focus and it still fails. |
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Quoted: With the possible exception of Poland none of them are "punching above their weight". https://www.statista.com/statistics/1303432/total-bilateral-aid-to-ukraine/ https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2022/04/19/which-country-has-given-the-most-money-to-ukraine View Quote Umm, no. observe USA is number 5 on the list by GDP, which is what matters more. Let's send 50 more Himars rocket systems and take the lead |
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Quoted: Umm, no. observe USA is number 5 on the list by GDP, which is what matters more. Let's send 50 more Himars rocket systems and take the lead View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: With the possible exception of Poland none of them are "punching above their weight". https://www.statista.com/statistics/1303432/total-bilateral-aid-to-ukraine/ https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2022/04/19/which-country-has-given-the-most-money-to-ukraine Umm, no. observe USA is number 5 on the list by GDP, which is what matters more. Let's send 50 more Himars rocket systems and take the lead It’s obvious your mind has hyper focused on one thing here. Curious to see where it pivots after this is no longer newsworthy, which is quickly fading btw. Daily reminder, you can, and should, go over there and fight alongside your leader. |
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[#38]
Quoted: Umm, no. observe USA is number 5 on the list by GDP, which is what matters more. Let's send 50 more Himars rocket systems and take the lead View Quote No GDP is not what matters. What matters is whos ass is on the line and it's not ours. |
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Quoted: It’s obvious your mind has hyper focused on one thing here. Curious to see where it pivots after this is no longer newsworthy, which is quickly fading btw. Daily reminder, you can, and should, go over there and fight alongside your leader. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: It’s obvious your mind has hyper focused on one thing here. Curious to see where it pivots after this is no longer newsworthy, which is quickly fading btw. Daily reminder, you can, and should, go over there and fight alongside your leader. Send me a set of orders and I can. Call your reps and demand Nato get involved in direction action Quoted: No GDP is not what matters. What matters is whos ass is on the line and it's not ours. It does because the aid from a small economy hits a lot harder to the sender than aid from a large economy. We just spend 600 billion on an anti-inflation package. That's 10x more wasteful spending than the 9 billion spent so far on aid to Ukraine. |
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[#40]
Quoted: Send me a set of orders and I can. Call your reps and demand Nato get involved in direction action It does because the aid from a small economy hits a lot harder to the sender than aid from a large economy. We just spend 600 billion on an anti-inflation package. That's 10x more wasteful spending than the 9 billion spent so far on aid to Ukraine. View Quote I've been arguing about wasteful spending. Yeah the "anti-inflation" bill is wasteful. So is dumping untold billions into Ukraine when the countries whos ass is on the line won't step up. I get it. They take a bigger hit. But they have more to lose. If they are not willing to step up, I am not willing to sell my sons future out on bailing their ass out. I don't give a shit about me. I give a shit about my son and his generation and future generations. Not saying you don't. I know you do. But this country is one day (not in my lifetime) going to be in real hard times and wasting money will compound the problem. Where are your sources for only sending Ukraine 9 billion in aid? The U.S. has sent more than $54 billion to Ukraine since the war against Russia started, according to The New York Times. The aid package can be broken down into multiple types of aid. Weapons and other supplies: $12.5 billion Economic support: $9.4 billion U.S. military deployments and intelligence: $9 billion Food assistance, healthcare, and other aid: $7 billion Military and security assistance: $6 billion Grants and loans for military supplies: $4.7 billion Migration and refugee assistance: $1.8 billion Other foreign aid: $1.5 billion Assistance for Europe, Eurasia, and Central Aisa: $1.1 billion Administration for Children and Families: $0.9 billion Diplomatic programs and other: $0.5 billion Enforcing sanctions: $0.3 billion |
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[#43]
That criminal motherfucker is accusing others of criminal activity??? Fuck him, fuck Ukraine, fuck russia and fuck our government for giving those assholes billions upon billions so the assholes in our .gov get kickbacks...
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[#44]
Quoted: Like Poland sending almost 500 tanks? "not doing enough". Who is not doing enough? Germany? Yes. Italy? Yes. France? Yes. Baltics? Poland? UK? Norway? They're punching above their weight. Certainly more than us. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: But they are not doing nearly enough considering it is their ass on the line. Like Poland sending almost 500 tanks? "not doing enough". Who is not doing enough? Germany? Yes. Italy? Yes. France? Yes. Baltics? Poland? UK? Norway? They're punching above their weight. Certainly more than us. Europe didn't do shit during the GWOT. Mostly America doing all the heavy lifting. For the longest time, America was the only country abiding by the required contributions given to NATO. Fuck those freeloading sons of bitches. |
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[#45]
Quoted: Except plenty of people do. It's a bipartisan support. Most democrats AND republicans are supportive of Ukraine. How am I worshipping a foreign leader? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Nobody gives a shit. 300 million people in this country couldn't point out those countries on a map if you asked them to. Nobody cares. Except plenty of people do. It's a bipartisan support. Most democrats AND republicans are supportive of Ukraine. Quoted: Keep worshipping a foreign leader How am I worshipping a foreign leader? |
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Quoted: Are you saying the same USA that has plans for 2 simultaneous conflicts and has some very smart people can't find the time and effort to overcome more than one problem at a time? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Yup. The 60 billion should have went to the southern border instead. It could have also been used for a thousand purposes better than sending it to Ukraine where 70% doesn't even make it to the front line. Ukraine-Russia is in Europe's hemisphere and it their problem more than anyone else's. The invasion at the southern border is what should be number 1, followed by inflation at 2, empty shelves at 3..............................Ukraine somewhere after a thousand other issues. Those who are ALL about Ukraine should go fly over there and enlist - they take volunteers after all, rather than demand that be the priority for where the taxes and national attention goes. Are you saying the same USA that has plans for 2 simultaneous conflicts and has some very smart people can't find the time and effort to overcome more than one problem at a time? If you still have faith in the US Government's ability to solve a problem,... you really are out of touch with reality. The only thing the US Government is good at, is *CREATING* problems... not solving them. |
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Quoted: You have to be 50yrs old+. View Quote I know it sounds ridiculous... but a lot of literal self-described Communists are praising Ukraine... and these "Breadtubers" are often the same kind of people who defended the Holodomor. |
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