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Posted: 7/27/2022 11:32:27 AM EDT
So I'm 6'0 almost 6'1. 34-36" jeans. Varied from 175 to 200.
More or less always been averageish to decent, aka not fat. My frame size is capable of more though. I don't eat fast food, drink much pop, try to avoid beer or alcohol. I've always been a fan of homework outs with simple stuff like pushups. Work provides a gym membership though. Kinda want a simple nutrition and workout routine. If it comes in a box or bag (outside of like pasta, or vegetables), or goes in the microwave I try to avoid it. Nutrition for burning weight I can do, but it seems like nutrition for building big muscle I haven't ever been able to do. Working out every day is not of interest. MWF if more my style. Thanks |
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Posted: 7/27/2022 1:54:03 PM EDT
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Chicken breast/thigh, veggies, rice
3/2/1 ratio Bike 2 miles every day ALL OUT Run 2 miles every day - 1 mile ALL OUT, 1 mile recovery 50 push ups 50 pull ups 50 sit ups 180 days later you will be jacked |
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Posted: 7/27/2022 3:04:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ar15joe: Chicken breast/thigh, veggies, rice 3/2/1 ratio Bike 2 miles every day ALL OUT Run 2 miles every day - 1 mile ALL OUT, 1 mile recovery 50 push ups 50 pull ups 50 sit ups 180 days later you will be jacked This may get him shredded. It will NOT add size and muscle. OP, eating (especially protein) and lifting weights are the only way to add much in the way of muscle. Something like Starting Strength to get strong, then Jim Wendler's Boring But Big program to add muscle. Eat to perform and add size to it. Use cardio and diet in between lifting cycles to trim back off any fat added. |
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USA
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Posted: 7/27/2022 3:17:01 PM EDT
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40/30/30 (carbs/fats/proteins) is a good starting place for macros if you stick to healthy carbs, fats, and proteins. Try not to make to much of your protein from shakes like no more than 2 scoops a day.
You need to do lots of compound lifts and do progressive overload. Body weight exercises are not going to cut it for getting "jacked". |
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Posted: 7/27/2022 5:26:27 PM EDT
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Boring but big and a pound of beef a day will grow you.
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IA, USA
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Posted: 7/28/2022 7:01:55 AM EDT
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What does getting jacked mean to you?
Your height and weight doesn’t tell the story without knowing your body fat percentage. You say you are 6’1” 175 lbs but have a larger waist than I do. I’m 5’7” 165 lbs with a 28-29” waist. You need eggs and heavy lifting in your life. Body weight exercise is basically cardio IMO it’s not going to grow your muscles. |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 7/28/2022 12:52:51 PM EDT
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Start here:
 Choosing Exercises for Muscle Growth | Hypertrophy Made Simple #1 and  Basic Principles for Nutrition for Muscle Gain | Nutrition for Muscle Gain- Lecture 1 If you want to get jacked, train to build muscle and eat to build muscle. Sounds insulting, but a lot of people do not know what that means. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/28/2022 3:12:07 PM EDT
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Steak, fresh eggs, raw milk and compound lifts.
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Posted: 7/28/2022 3:49:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Spatten: Start here:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cW0EmO12Lkand https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rTTRl-tuAsIf you want to get jacked, train to build muscle and eat to build muscle. Sounds insulting, but a lot of people do not know what that means. The training part I know. The diet, man. The diet is tough to nail down. I'm going to talk with a local nutritionist and have her come up with something for me. I cut too much and then my workout suffers as does my sleep. I bulk too much, I move away from my goal of reducing body fat (currently at 12-13%, want to get to 10%). I'm 44. When I was 22 this shit was much, much easier. |
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IA, USA
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Posted: 7/28/2022 4:59:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rob78: The training part I know. The diet, man. The diet is tough to nail down. I'm going to talk with a local nutritionist and have her come up with something for me. I cut too much and then my workout suffers as does my sleep. I bulk too much, I move away from my goal of reducing body fat (currently at 12-13%, want to get to 10%). I'm 44. When I was 22 this shit was much, much easier. I'm 47 and was recently a little over a month ago down to 7%. Ten percent is easy to maintain for me, but 7% was tough and I did start to lose strength. I said screw that I started to up my calories to get back to my current 10% where I like to be most of the year. I spend some time during the winter months bulking and like to be between 12-15% when bulking but never ever over 15%. |
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Posted: 7/31/2022 10:11:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Spatten: Start here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cW0EmO12Lkand https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rTTRl-tuAsIf you want to get jacked, train to build muscle and eat to build muscle. Sounds insulting, but a lot of people do not know what that means. Lots of good info here, he's also juiced to the moon. There's nothing wrong with that but it's a huge factor that shouldn't be overlooked. |
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Posted: 7/31/2022 10:30:29 AM EDT
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Steroids is the way to be jacked. You can just fluff and pump reps until your heart gives out.
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Posted: 8/1/2022 7:14:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lefty-weaver-g19: I'm 47 and was recently a little over a month ago down to 7%. Ten percent is easy to maintain for me, but 7% was tough and I did start to lose strength. I said screw that I started to up my calories to get back to my current 10% where I like to be most of the year. I spend some time during the winter months bulking and like to be between 12-15% when bulking but never ever over 15%. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lefty-weaver-g19: Originally Posted By rob78: The training part I know. The diet, man. The diet is tough to nail down. I'm going to talk with a local nutritionist and have her come up with something for me. I cut too much and then my workout suffers as does my sleep. I bulk too much, I move away from my goal of reducing body fat (currently at 12-13%, want to get to 10%). I'm 44. When I was 22 this shit was much, much easier. I'm 47 and was recently a little over a month ago down to 7%. Ten percent is easy to maintain for me, but 7% was tough and I did start to lose strength. I said screw that I started to up my calories to get back to my current 10% where I like to be most of the year. I spend some time during the winter months bulking and like to be between 12-15% when bulking but never ever over 15%. I've got a plan now. Looks like a big part of my problem were the weekends. Less calorie burn (no gym on sat or sun) so fewer calories needed, but higher protein needed. Gonna give this a shot. |
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Posted: 8/1/2022 8:33:57 AM EDT
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I used to be deeply entrenched in the bodybuilding lifestyle and community. I went to high school with this gentleman and had much of my early learning and inspiration alongside him. I was one of the major players in the Massachusetts bodybuilding scene in the mid- to late-90s, had a blast, met a ton of awesome people, and at times am surprised I survived with my health intact.
That being said, I’m not sure if the actual goal here is strength that can be applied, looks, or both. I’ll invite the 800lb gorilla that’s in the room, into this thread. If a major reason why you’re in the iron game is to to look good, know that those who you see in contests are probably running strong diuretics, chasing extreme precontest diets (I knew a guy who ate nothing but boiled 93 percent lean ground beef precontest), and taking supplements that you won’t find in stores. I’m not saying a single law is being broken, rather they have the network of acquaintances and the knowledge needed to get some unusual supplements. Obviously AAS are part of it; I’m referring to things for vascularity/“pump” and whatnot. The posing photos that make it to publication are a look that the person will hold for contest day and contest day only. If you think those who compete in the Arnold look like that every day, or even a week precontest, then you’re in for a surprise (and some medical issues) if you try to achieve that. As far as strength training goes, everyone will respond differently. Take the time to try different moves and different quantities of each. If you plan to be in this for the long term, find out what exercises work for you and invest in your own equipment accordingly. Free weights and proper form were always far more effective for me than most machines. A machine can teach you form, but do you really want to rely on it for every time you do that move? I’m not saying to not invest in a squat rack, but your home gym doesn’t need 20 different silly racks and machines. You can do almost anything with about a bedroom-sized home gym if you only buy what you need. Learn the theories behind calisthenics and take advantage of your own body weight for mini workouts anywhere and any time you have the opportunity. It pays off in the long run. Don’t be afraid to talk to people at a gym. Some won’t want to engage in conversation about anything while others won’t shut up once you get the ball rolling. If you see someone doing something that’s new to you, ask what it’s called, then look it up online later. If time permits, ask how it’s done. Safety first isn’t just a nice phrase for the insurance companies to push— you’ll regret it if you try to cut corners and end up with an injury. |
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Posted: 8/1/2022 10:21:34 AM EDT
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Above post is on point. Lots of good info there.
If you’re looking more specifically for routines to pack on size, search “doggcrapp training” I linked one site but there’s lots of others out there with info. I did it for a while in college and was amazed by how much size it packed on me. Time in the gym was minimal as you’re doing one working set for each lift. Recovery was important and the amount of protein I was consuming each day was a crucial part of it all (and the reason it’s hard to do for any real length of time). If you’ve been out of the gym for a while (regardless of what program you ultimately get into), you’ll want to start out slow/light with great form to avoid hurting yourself. |
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USA
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Posted: 8/24/2022 6:38:06 PM EDT
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[#15]
If you want to get big start lifting as much as you can for 5x6 on squats, dead lifts, should shrugs, bench, incline bench.
Lift 5x10 for barbell curls, lat pull downs, tri pulls, lying tri extensions. For stomach do situps, leg kicks, and use that rolling thing. Do a 1 on, 2 cardio rotation. Combine the exercises how you want, but rest them at least two days between heavy lifts. Do cardio or light cardio on the rest days. Throw in some dumbbell work for getting cut and isolation. Eat as much protein as you can and rest as much as you can. It's not rocket science, you just have to put in the work, eat protein, and sleep. |
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Posted: 9/9/2022 9:06:46 AM EDT
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Its been a month OP. Where are you at?
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OK, USA
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Posted: 9/14/2022 12:38:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lefty-weaver-g19: You say you are 6’1” 175 lbs but have a larger waist than I do. I’m 5’7” 165 lbs with a 28-29” waist. You need eggs and heavy lifting in your life. Body weight exercise is basically cardio IMO it’s not going to grow your muscles. 6'1 and 175 means the guy is small and likely not carrying around a gunt --- variances in skeletal structure from one human to another affect waist size as much as bodyfat percent |
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OK, USA
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Posted: 9/14/2022 12:39:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 03RN: Its been a month OP. Where are you at? Another one and done operator evidently. But with the post count the dude has, im guessing he's in one of the other areas of General talking politics - lol |
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Posted: 12/6/2022 2:19:07 AM EDT
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Figured, I'd post just got back from the gym tonight. Finally found one with hours that work with my schedule, ie late or early. Also not having to drive 45 minutes one way to the gym is nice.
Planning M/W/F routine. Figure 30mins to an hour. I didn't do anything crazy today, just machine exercises, incline bench and leg press. Noticed my weight is about 205 today. Not sure how long it'll take, don't really have a goal for weight etc. but when I take off my shirt I want to look great, instead of decent. So guess 180 days I guess is the goal. So any tips everyone has let me know. Figuring ill take pictures at 30,60,90,120,150,180 days since I typically do best when I set a goal for myself. I know I'd like to bench at least 200 in 6 months. |
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Posted: 12/6/2022 9:52:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chromekilla: Figured, I'd post just got back from the gym tonight. Finally found one with hours that work with my schedule, ie late or early. Also not having to drive 45 minutes one way to the gym is nice. Planning M/W/F routine. Figure 30mins to an hour. I didn't do anything crazy today, just machine exercises, incline bench and leg press. Noticed my weight is about 205 today. Not sure how long it'll take, don't really have a goal for weight etc. but when I take off my shirt I want to look great, instead of decent. So guess 180 days I guess is the goal. So any tips everyone has let me know. Figuring ill take pictures at 30,60,90,120,150,180 days since I typically do best when I set a goal for myself. I know I'd like to bench at least 200 in 6 months. I'd bank on an hour at the gym. I can't see making much progress in half hour stints. Allow for 1 to 1.5 minute rests between sets. Your heart rate should remain elevated (cal burn), but you're allowing enough rest for hypertrophy. Me personally , I'd throw the scale in the closet and forget about it. Aesthetic and strength are your goals, not some arbitrary weight. The scale only deludes or depresses...not a good measure of success. Instead, focus on how your clothes fit. I don't know your starting 1RM is for bench is, but 200lbs is definitely doable in 6 months. I may get crucified here, but I'd strongly suggest sticking with dumbbells for most of your training...at least in the beginning. Dumbbells will activate the small muscles needed for stability. Dumbbells promote symmetry since you can't favor your strong side. Dumbbells will ,IMO, lead to better form once you progress to the barbell. |
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MD, USA
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Posted: 12/8/2022 12:41:30 AM EDT
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Stronlifts 5x5 is the answer you seek. You start with just the bar, but the weight adds up pretty quickly. The downside is you may put on more pounds than you want, but you'll definitely get to 225 in 6 months if you religiously stick with the program.
https://stronglifts.com/5x5/ |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 12/8/2022 1:04:13 AM EDT
[#22]
What do you have for a guy with bad knees?
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NV, USA
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Posted: 12/8/2022 6:32:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jos51700: What do you have for a guy with bad knees? Lookup kneesovertoesguy on youtube, and his ATG program. |
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NS, CAN
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Posted: 12/8/2022 6:59:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Left_Cant: Stronlifts 5x5 is the answer you seek. You start with just the bar, but the weight adds up pretty quickly. The downside is you may put on more pounds than you want, but you'll definitely get to 225 in 6 months if you religiously stick with the program. https://stronglifts.com/5x5/ As the name implies, Stonglifts 5x5 is a strength building program. To get "jacked", OP needs a hypertrophy based program. |
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MD, USA
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Posted: 12/9/2022 1:42:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LoneCoyoteHunter: As the name implies, Stonglifts 5x5 is a strength building program. To get "jacked", OP needs a hypertrophy based program. If he's 205 with a 36-38" waist trying to get to a 200lb bench in six months, there's not a hypertrophy program in the world that's going to get him to "jacked" naturally in 6 months. Get strong, then cut the fat. Tried and true method. |
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IA, USA
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Posted: 12/9/2022 2:07:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By streetstar: 6'1 and 175 means the guy is small and likely not carrying around a gunt --- variances in skeletal structure from one human to another affect waist size as much as bodyfat percent Ya probably skinny fat. |
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Posted: 12/10/2022 1:21:55 AM EDT
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One week down. Outside of getting in the routine, I've noticed all my weights have increased a lot. Doesn't really mean much other than I was warming up the muscles the first week. Probably be posting back in for tips, but the 5x5 looks good.
The standard still one gram protein per lb of bf? |
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IA, USA
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Posted: 12/10/2022 2:11:40 PM EDT
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One week down? Your OP was nearly 5 months ago? You could have made some serious progress in 5 months.
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Posted: 12/11/2022 3:44:05 PM EDT
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I started 5x5 3 weeks ago. I'm going to continue, but I feel like I'm definitely going to want to add more lifts at some point. My sons hit all sorts of different machines/lifts in the gym and my youngest (19) is getting huge. He's impressive to see especially right after a workout.
I've probably done the wrong thing, but I realized how little I was lifting and grossly increased the amount of weight much faster than the schedule. |
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Posted: 12/11/2022 3:46:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ProfessorFalken: I started 5x5 3 weeks ago. I'm going to continue, but I feel like I'm definitely going to want to add more lifts at some point. My sons hit all sorts of different machines/lifts in the gym and my youngest (19) is getting huge. He's impressive to see especially right after a workout. I've probably done the wrong thing, but I realized how little I was lifting and grossly increased the amount of weight much faster than the schedule. The problem with that, is that 19 year olds are basically super human. They don't need to sleep, they can survive off pop tarts and milk, and work their asses off each day and recover just fine. Meanwhile I'm over here trying to figure out if I should spend an hour tonight under the bar or just using the Theragun and stretching so that I can survive the cold this week. |
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Posted: 12/11/2022 4:04:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sitdwnandhngon: The problem with that, is that 19 year olds are basically super human. They don't need to sleep, they can survive off pop tarts and milk, and work their asses off each day and recover just fine. Meanwhile I'm over here trying to figure out if I should spend an hour tonight under the bar or just using the Theragun and stretching so that I can survive the cold this week. To add to this, he's become borderline obsessed with proper diet and supplements, so he's definitely realizing huge gains. Guaranteed he's going to end up with stretch marks by summer. |
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Posted: 12/12/2022 9:22:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ProfessorFalken: To add to this, he's become borderline obsessed with proper diet and supplements, so he's definitely realizing huge gains. Guaranteed he's going to end up with stretch marks by summer. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ProfessorFalken: Originally Posted By sitdwnandhngon: The problem with that, is that 19 year olds are basically super human. They don't need to sleep, they can survive off pop tarts and milk, and work their asses off each day and recover just fine. Meanwhile I'm over here trying to figure out if I should spend an hour tonight under the bar or just using the Theragun and stretching so that I can survive the cold this week. To add to this, he's become borderline obsessed with proper diet and supplements, so he's definitely realizing huge gains. Guaranteed he's going to end up with stretch marks by summer. I was ripped up in my late teens and early 20's. I ate anything, drank anything, hiked/biked/worked out (not one supplement). It was relatively easy back then. At 44, I count everything, and work out religiously...its tough. I get sore and achy (especially when I bump up weight). So, don't worry about your son. He's gonna beat you to the gains, but you can catch him in time. |
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Posted: 12/12/2022 11:20:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rob78: I was ripped up in my late teens and early 20's. I ate anything, drank anything, hiked/biked/worked out (not one supplement). It was relatively easy back then. At 44, I count everything, and work out religiously...its tough. I get sore and achy (especially when I bump up weight). So, don't worry about your son. He's gonna beat you to the gains, but you can catch him in time. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rob78: Originally Posted By ProfessorFalken: Originally Posted By sitdwnandhngon: The problem with that, is that 19 year olds are basically super human. They don't need to sleep, they can survive off pop tarts and milk, and work their asses off each day and recover just fine. Meanwhile I'm over here trying to figure out if I should spend an hour tonight under the bar or just using the Theragun and stretching so that I can survive the cold this week. To add to this, he's become borderline obsessed with proper diet and supplements, so he's definitely realizing huge gains. Guaranteed he's going to end up with stretch marks by summer. I was ripped up in my late teens and early 20's. I ate anything, drank anything, hiked/biked/worked out (not one supplement). It was relatively easy back then. At 44, I count everything, and work out religiously...its tough. I get sore and achy (especially when I bump up weight). So, don't worry about your son. He's gonna beat you to the gains, but you can catch him in time. Not likely. Nature is on the side of the young and she's a cruel mistress 
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IA, USA
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Posted: 12/12/2022 11:22:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ProfessorFalken: I started 5x5 3 weeks ago. I'm going to continue, but I feel like I'm definitely going to want to add more lifts at some point. My sons hit all sorts of different machines/lifts in the gym and my youngest (19) is getting huge. He's impressive to see especially right after a workout. I've probably done the wrong thing, but I realized how little I was lifting and grossly increased the amount of weight much faster than the schedule. Resist the urge to add more lifts or alter the program. If it's one of the proven 5 x 5 programs they work. Stick to the program. If it's truly a life style then play the long game. The 5 x 5 programs will put on muscle, but they are primarily strength programs, not hypertrophy. I'm 48 and ripped. I've been doing this a long time(life style). I did slack off in my mid to late 30's before restarting in my early 40's. Your diet and sleep is more important now than it was when you were young. When I say play the long game here is what I mean... I just finished a 12 week Madcow routine. I got stronger breaking some plateaus by the end of the 12 weeks. I didn't gain much mass although I was in a calorie surplus. After the 12 weeks I did a deload week. Over the next few weeks I switched up to a hypertrophy body builder type strategy. I went a little extreme in the other direction. From 5's with compounds I switched to isolation exercises with 15-20 rep ranges. I was able to use more weight on the isolations than I previously could. Bam immediate growth. I will do this for a little while and switch back to 5's with heavy compounds. So playing the long game the 5's didn't immediately cause growth, but I got stronger so when I moved to a hypertrophy strategy I was more successful. I've been doing this a long time and I've found that an extreme change in programming some times is what is needed to start making gains again. |
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Posted: 12/12/2022 11:48:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LoneCoyoteHunter: Not likely. Nature is on the side of the young and she's a cruel mistress Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LoneCoyoteHunter: Originally Posted By rob78: Originally Posted By ProfessorFalken: Originally Posted By sitdwnandhngon: The problem with that, is that 19 year olds are basically super human. They don't need to sleep, they can survive off pop tarts and milk, and work their asses off each day and recover just fine. Meanwhile I'm over here trying to figure out if I should spend an hour tonight under the bar or just using the Theragun and stretching so that I can survive the cold this week. To add to this, he's become borderline obsessed with proper diet and supplements, so he's definitely realizing huge gains. Guaranteed he's going to end up with stretch marks by summer. I was ripped up in my late teens and early 20's. I ate anything, drank anything, hiked/biked/worked out (not one supplement). It was relatively easy back then. At 44, I count everything, and work out religiously...its tough. I get sore and achy (especially when I bump up weight). So, don't worry about your son. He's gonna beat you to the gains, but you can catch him in time. Not likely. Nature is on the side of the young and she's a cruel mistress Just trying to put some optimism into the conversation  |
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Posted: 12/12/2022 3:28:13 PM EDT
[#36]
There's a lot of complexity in this thread.
Your diet should focus on dead animals, with a secondary component coming from small amounts of fruits and vegetables, and a very small (if any) helping of grains. Eat 1.2g of protein per lean pound of body weight, and measure your BMI with the neck-to-waist-ratio method to get a baseline. Google "Starting Strength" and get on that program, minus the 1gal/milk/day. That will get you on the "lifestyle" path. Once you have good habits/addictions formed, and your clothes are fitting differently, come back and check in. |
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IA, USA
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Posted: 12/12/2022 4:16:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tucansam: There's a lot of complexity in this thread. Your diet should focus on dead animals, with a secondary component coming from small amounts of fruits and vegetables, and a very small (if any) helping of grains. Eat 1.2g of protein per lean pound of body weight, and measure your BMI with the neck-to-waist-ratio method to get a baseline. Google "Starting Strength" and get on that program, minus the 1gal/milk/day. That will get you on the "lifestyle" path. Once you have good habits/addictions formed, and your clothes are fitting differently, come back and check in. I drink a lot of milk every day. Not a gallon a day, but a lot. Eggs, beef, green beans, oatmeal, and milk as the primary sources for my diet has served me well. |
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Posted: 12/13/2022 1:18:53 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lefty-weaver-g19: I drink a lot of milk every day. Not a gallon a day, but a lot. Eggs, beef, green beans, oatmeal, and milk as the primary sources for my diet has served me well. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lefty-weaver-g19: Originally Posted By tucansam: There's a lot of complexity in this thread. Your diet should focus on dead animals, with a secondary component coming from small amounts of fruits and vegetables, and a very small (if any) helping of grains. Eat 1.2g of protein per lean pound of body weight, and measure your BMI with the neck-to-waist-ratio method to get a baseline. Google "Starting Strength" and get on that program, minus the 1gal/milk/day. That will get you on the "lifestyle" path. Once you have good habits/addictions formed, and your clothes are fitting differently, come back and check in. I drink a lot of milk every day. Not a gallon a day, but a lot. Eggs, beef, green beans, oatmeal, and milk as the primary sources for my diet has served me well. Sweet. For OP: 1gal/day/milk is not necessary for you. |
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MT, USA
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Posted: 12/13/2022 1:39:57 AM EDT
[#39]
Eat more protein, workout everyday
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IA, USA
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Posted: 12/13/2022 2:16:52 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tucansam: Sweet. For OP: 1gal/day/milk is not necessary for you. It’s not actually meant for anyone. Gomad was never meant for anyone to take literally. |
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Posted: 12/13/2022 6:31:46 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lefty-weaver-g19: It’s not actually meant for anyone. Gomad was never meant for anyone to take literally. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lefty-weaver-g19: Originally Posted By tucansam: Sweet. For OP: 1gal/day/milk is not necessary for you. It’s not actually meant for anyone. Gomad was never meant for anyone to take literally. 17 year olds that need to gain about 40 lbs, that's pretty much it, and only because they would never follow any actual diet advice, so you have to just get good calories into them. |
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IA, USA
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Posted: 12/13/2022 2:20:00 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sitdwnandhngon: 17 year olds that need to gain about 40 lbs, that's pretty much it, and only because they would never follow any actual diet advice, so you have to just get good calories into them. Rip himself at one point said that if you can actually drink a gallon of milk a day this program isn't meant for you. It was on his youtube channel. Basically he said eat your meals and add as much milk as you can not expecting anyone to actually be able to do that plus a gallon a day. |
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Posted: 12/13/2022 2:53:56 PM EDT
[#43]
While I'm sure some people took it seriously, I believe his intent was more metaphorical, or as you stated, supplementing meals with milk.
When you're 15 or 16 or 17 and want to wrestle or play football, and have a metabolism that burns with the fire of a thousand suns, and a T score of 900+, lift heavy things correctly and eat everything you see and you'll get really big and really strong. That's pretty much the program. |
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Posted: 12/13/2022 7:56:27 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tucansam: While I'm sure some people took it seriously, I believe his intent was more metaphorical, or as you stated, supplementing meals with milk. When you're 15 or 16 or 17 and want to wrestle or play football, and have a metabolism that burns with the fire of a thousand suns, and a T score of 900+, lift heavy things correctly and eat everything you see and you'll get really big and really strong. That's pretty much the program. My uncle at one point had 3 teenage athletes in the house. He stopped that store on the way home every night and bought two gallons of milk, they plowed right through it, especially in the summer when they were home for more of the day and would pour theselves a glass pretty much every time they went into the kitchen. |
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Posted: 12/20/2022 3:01:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Chromekilla]
[#45]
Overall having fun dialing in my program, and figuring out what I like.
Also working on my diet. Strong mix of bananas, apples, some kind of meat, cheese sticks, nuts, trail mix, hard boiled eggs, and peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. Eat my biggest meal around mid day. After workouts/before I go to sleep I typically drink a protein shake with 50g protein, a cheese stick, or glass of milk and a spoonful of peanut butter. Any other thoughts besides stay with it? One thing I find, I really hate chicken and I find folks suggest that a lot as a protein. If I can get tuna/salmon would that be a good replacement? |
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Posted: 12/20/2022 6:42:05 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chromekilla: Overall having fun dialing in my program, and figuring out what I like. Also working on my diet. Strong mix of bananas, apples, some kind of meat, cheese sticks, nuts, trail mix, hard boiled eggs, and peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. Eat my biggest meal around mid day. After workouts/before I go to sleep I typically drink a protein shake with 50g protein, a cheese stick, or glass of milk and a spoonful of peanut butter. Any other thoughts besides stay with it? One thing I find, I really hate chicken and I find folks suggest that a lot as a protein. If I can get tuna/salmon would that be a good replacement? Salmon can get expensive to eat every day, but it's better nutritionally than chicken. Tuna every day is not ideal for every day consumption. Herring and Mackerel are cheap and don't have mercury issues that would come with eating it every day. It sounds gross and they smell gross, but they actually taste much better than tuna. I don't like chicken either, but I do love eggs and I eat a dozen some days. |
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Posted: 12/20/2022 8:18:48 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jarcese: Salmon can get expensive to eat every day, but it's better nutritionally than chicken. Tuna every day is not ideal for every day consumption. Herring and Mackerel are cheap and don't have mercury issues that would come with eating it every day. It sounds gross and they smell gross, but they actually taste much better than tuna. I don't like chicken either, but I do love eggs and I eat a dozen some days. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jarcese: Originally Posted By Chromekilla: Overall having fun dialing in my program, and figuring out what I like. Also working on my diet. Strong mix of bananas, apples, some kind of meat, cheese sticks, nuts, trail mix, hard boiled eggs, and peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. Eat my biggest meal around mid day. After workouts/before I go to sleep I typically drink a protein shake with 50g protein, a cheese stick, or glass of milk and a spoonful of peanut butter. Any other thoughts besides stay with it? One thing I find, I really hate chicken and I find folks suggest that a lot as a protein. If I can get tuna/salmon would that be a good replacement? Salmon can get expensive to eat every day, but it's better nutritionally than chicken. Tuna every day is not ideal for every day consumption. Herring and Mackerel are cheap and don't have mercury issues that would come with eating it every day. It sounds gross and they smell gross, but they actually taste much better than tuna. I don't like chicken either, but I do love eggs and I eat a dozen some days. +1 Good alternative proteins. I'd also recommend black beans, quinoa, as alternatives. They make a great side dish. I eat the hell out of riced cauliflower as well. |
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Posted: 12/27/2022 1:33:58 AM EDT
[#48]
Was able to use a day gym on break to stay with it. Tons of old as hell stuff, made me glad to be back home at my regular gym with all new stuff. Really liking the gym thing again, be real fun when I'm breaking my records and seeing the progress. Thanks everyone for all the tips
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Posted: 12/27/2022 9:05:18 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rob78: +1 Good alternative proteins. I'd also recommend black beans, quinoa, as alternatives. They make a great side dish. I eat the hell out of riced cauliflower as well. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rob78: Originally Posted By Jarcese: Originally Posted By Chromekilla: Overall having fun dialing in my program, and figuring out what I like. Also working on my diet. Strong mix of bananas, apples, some kind of meat, cheese sticks, nuts, trail mix, hard boiled eggs, and peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. Eat my biggest meal around mid day. After workouts/before I go to sleep I typically drink a protein shake with 50g protein, a cheese stick, or glass of milk and a spoonful of peanut butter. Any other thoughts besides stay with it? One thing I find, I really hate chicken and I find folks suggest that a lot as a protein. If I can get tuna/salmon would that be a good replacement? Salmon can get expensive to eat every day, but it's better nutritionally than chicken. Tuna every day is not ideal for every day consumption. Herring and Mackerel are cheap and don't have mercury issues that would come with eating it every day. It sounds gross and they smell gross, but they actually taste much better than tuna. I don't like chicken either, but I do love eggs and I eat a dozen some days. +1 Good alternative proteins. I'd also recommend black beans, quinoa, as alternatives. They make a great side dish. I eat the hell out of riced cauliflower as well. Are there any real advantages to cauliflower other than a filler? The nutrient profile seems pretty boring and calories are super low. |
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Posted: 12/27/2022 9:41:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sitdwnandhngon: Are there any real advantages to cauliflower other than a filler? The nutrient profile seems pretty boring and calories are super low. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sitdwnandhngon: Originally Posted By rob78: Originally Posted By Jarcese: Originally Posted By Chromekilla: Overall having fun dialing in my program, and figuring out what I like. Also working on my diet. Strong mix of bananas, apples, some kind of meat, cheese sticks, nuts, trail mix, hard boiled eggs, and peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. Eat my biggest meal around mid day. After workouts/before I go to sleep I typically drink a protein shake with 50g protein, a cheese stick, or glass of milk and a spoonful of peanut butter. Any other thoughts besides stay with it? One thing I find, I really hate chicken and I find folks suggest that a lot as a protein. If I can get tuna/salmon would that be a good replacement? Salmon can get expensive to eat every day, but it's better nutritionally than chicken. Tuna every day is not ideal for every day consumption. Herring and Mackerel are cheap and don't have mercury issues that would come with eating it every day. It sounds gross and they smell gross, but they actually taste much better than tuna. I don't like chicken either, but I do love eggs and I eat a dozen some days. +1 Good alternative proteins. I'd also recommend black beans, quinoa, as alternatives. They make a great side dish. I eat the hell out of riced cauliflower as well. Are there any real advantages to cauliflower other than a filler? The nutrient profile seems pretty boring and calories are super low. Outside of magnesium content, no, it doesn't have a ton of nutritional value. I use it as a filler. I generally use it as a rice replacement. I can prep it faster than rice, it takes flavor well enough, and I don't get the carb count from it that rice does. |
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