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Posted: 1/16/2021 2:28:41 PM EDT
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With a few exceptions (e.g. the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine) the vaccines are a completely new model.
They do not rely on dead or attenuated virus creating antibodies, but use artificial techniques to generate antibodies against specific proteins, the ones that actually allow the virus to attach to the body. Given that, it is likely that the old-style vaccines will become ineffective, in the same way that they do against flu, which is another corona virus, and corona viruses by their very nature mutate pretty quickly. But the mutations, even if their structure is a bit different, still attack in the same way (otherwise, it would be a different disease). Targeting the "tools" it uses to attack means that the antibodies generated by one of these vaccines will still work. These are next generation vaccines, ones that have been on the research board for a long time, ones that were intended to produce things like a one-time flu vaccine. The development was pushed by COVID-19, by Trump kicking butt and getting the red tape out of the way, and throwing money at it. You have seen the resistance even so -- vested interests still want to control everything, and the pharmaceutical industry didn't get to control the roll-out to maximize profit. These vaccines are not a silver bullet, but they are the first step towards one. One that could pretty much end RNA-virus disease eventually. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 2:39:03 PM EDT
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Most of these strains were around when the the vaccine trials were going on, they just weren't getting pop culture exposure.
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Posted: 1/16/2021 2:39:54 PM EDT
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I believe maderno said theirs still works
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Posted: 1/16/2021 2:44:03 PM EDT
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Quoted: Does the vaccine even work against the new strains popping up? Look at the name of "Vaccine" and understand that it was originally named that for Smallpox. But still has the Latin word for cow in it. When you understand what a cow has to do with smallpox immunity, you'll understand that the rice rabies vaccine is still viable. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 2:44:21 PM EDT
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Basically the mutations reside in the DNA not the RNA
The two vaccines are RNA based so are still effective against the various mutations so far |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 2:46:41 PM EDT
[#6]
Clearly they're worthless.
You can't justify lockdowns forever otherwise. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 2:46:52 PM EDT
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The Virus continues to mutate, so if you get vaccine for virus "A", and the strain you are exposed to is anything else, then the vaccine for "A" was useless. Plus, we don't really know how effective the vaccine is because the test subjects just went about their lives, and we don't know how many of them were actually exposed to the virus in the first place. And it is impossible to know what the long term effects of the vaccine are because the vaccine is less than a year old.
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Posted: 1/16/2021 2:49:57 PM EDT
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Ivermectin is the answer you seek.
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Posted: 1/16/2021 2:57:11 PM EDT
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Cuomo ready to open everything a week after SH got the steal just confirms what I already knew. I mean it's plague round 2 right? New strains daily but now we're good?
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Posted: 1/16/2021 3:01:27 PM EDT
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We need people who develop vaccines to give better advice. But from what I understand, the moderna and phizer instruct some of your cells to produce spike proteins that match the virus spike proteins on the outside of the virus. So as long as the spike proteins of the virus remain the same or enough similar that the antibodies developed to combat them still work, then the vaccine is effective against the new strains.
So, saying it won't work against a new strain is oversimplified and possibly incorrect. It depends on what the changes are to the new strain. Also, the DNA of the virus doesn't matter as long as the protein spikes aren't changed. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 3:06:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: With a few exceptions (e.g. the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine) the vaccines are a completely new model. They do not rely on dead or attenuated virus creating antibodies, but use artificial techniques to generate antibodies against specific proteins, the ones that actually allow the virus to attach to the body. Given that, it is likely that the old-style vaccines will become ineffective, in the same way that they do against flu, which is another corona virus, and corona viruses by their very nature mutate pretty quickly. But the mutations, even if their structure is a bit different, still attack in the same way (otherwise, it would be a different disease). Targeting the "tools" it uses to attack means that the antibodies generated by one of these vaccines will still work. These are next generation vaccines, ones that have been on the research board for a long time, ones that were intended to produce things like a one-time flu vaccine. The development was pushed by COVID-19, by Trump kicking butt and getting the red tape out of the way, and throwing money at it. You have seen the resistance even so -- vested interests still want to control everything, and the pharmaceutical industry didn't get to control the roll-out to maximize profit. These vaccines are not a silver bullet, but they are the first step towards one. One that could pretty much end RNA-virus disease eventually. Please stop saying this. They are not from the same family of viruses. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 3:11:26 PM EDT
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They were worthless from day one. Same fucking reason we don't vaccinate for the other coronavirus that plagues us. The common cold.
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Posted: 1/16/2021 3:18:29 PM EDT
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I don't trust the cartel to make a vaccine that is not potentially weaponized. Just like the bug.
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Posted: 1/16/2021 3:19:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They were worthless from day one. Same fucking reason we don't vaccinate for the other coronavirus that plagues us. The common cold. We don't vaccinate for the cold because it kills almost no one unlike Coronavirus. The only thing worthless is ridiculously silly opinions. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 4:01:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We don't vaccinate for the cold because it kills almost no one unlike Coronavirus. The only thing worthless is ridiculously silly opinions. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: They were worthless from day one. Same fucking reason we don't vaccinate for the other coronavirus that plagues us. The common cold. We don't vaccinate for the cold because it kills almost no one unlike Coronavirus. The only thing worthless is ridiculously silly opinions. So people wouldn't pay for a vaccine to never get a cold again? Hypothetically. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 4:06:42 PM EDT
[#16]
lol
"vaccines" |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 4:11:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We don't vaccinate for the cold because it kills almost no one unlike Coronavirus. The only thing worthless is ridiculously silly opinions. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: They were worthless from day one. Same fucking reason we don't vaccinate for the other coronavirus that plagues us. The common cold. We don't vaccinate for the cold because it kills almost no one unlike Coronavirus. The only thing worthless is ridiculously silly opinions.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 4:23:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They were worthless from day one. Same fucking reason we don't vaccinate for the other coronavirus that plagues us. The common cold. Immune system....you have one. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 4:33:39 PM EDT
[#19]
A vaccine may keep you from getting a disease but will not treat you if you are currently sick with it. The issue will be with the antibodies created from plasma of recovered people. Those antibodies are too close to the makeup of the original strains. It cuts out some proven treatment options not but not cures like a vaccine would.
Monoclonal antibodies are synthetic and should still work depending on how they were made. Some are created with CRSPR technology and are a wide array targeting medicine. They look for mutation variants before they happen based on research from SARS 1 and MERS |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 4:41:19 PM EDT
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I just wish for once in my life that a politician or new org would be straight with people. Imo the numbers are heavily inflated to serve the masters needs. The problem that I see is that on some level this virus is real, obviously somewhat contagious, but you've got 50% of the people or more that don't buy the current status of it and 50% or less that are so scared because they've become so deeply incapable of thinking for themselves that they blindly follow their masters. This creates massive issues because God forbid a plague that is actually a major threat to the world will almost certainly go wild because the majority of people don't trust anything the .gov says about things anymore due to circumstances like orange man bad.
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Posted: 1/16/2021 4:46:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Virus continues to mutate, so if you get vaccine for virus "A", and the strain you are exposed to is anything else, then the vaccine for "A" was useless. Plus, we don't really know how effective the vaccine is because the test subjects just went about their lives, and we don't know how many of them were actually exposed to the virus in the first place. And it is impossible to know what the long term effects of the vaccine are because the vaccine is less than a year old. Incorrect This is new vaccine technology Kind of attacks the RNA of the virus That hasn’t changed with the mutations Mutations have been in the DNA |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 4:53:20 PM EDT
[#22]
As good as the flu shot works...
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Posted: 1/16/2021 4:56:51 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: With a few exceptions (e.g. the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine) the vaccines are a completely new model. They do not rely on dead or attenuated virus creating antibodies, but use artificial techniques to generate antibodies against specific proteins, the ones that actually allow the virus to attach to the body. Given that, it is likely that the old-style vaccines will become ineffective, in the same way that they do against flu, which is another corona virus, and corona viruses by their very nature mutate pretty quickly. But the mutations, even if their structure is a bit different, still attack in the same way (otherwise, it would be a different disease). Targeting the "tools" it uses to attack means that the antibodies generated by one of these vaccines will still work. These are next generation vaccines, ones that have been on the research board for a long time, ones that were intended to produce things like a one-time flu vaccine. The development was pushed by COVID-19, by Trump kicking butt and getting the red tape out of the way, and throwing money at it. You have seen the resistance even so -- vested interests still want to control everything, and the pharmaceutical industry didn't get to control the roll-out to maximize profit. These vaccines are not a silver bullet, but they are the first step towards one. One that could pretty much end RNA-virus disease eventually. Funny how I thought that the spikes were the parts that changed the most. 
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Posted: 1/16/2021 4:58:35 PM EDT
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Quit asking so many questions and bend over..(ehhhm) excuse me, I mean, roll up your sleeve and let me IM inject my magic shit into you that if I didnt produce it i would lose the billions I was given to produce it, and that the Chinese produced two versions of their own magically at the same time.
Just STFU and bend....I mean, roll up your sleeve bitc...I mean, Sir. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 5:08:03 PM EDT
[#25]
lol!
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Posted: 1/16/2021 5:14:30 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Basically the mutations reside in the DNA not the RNA The two vaccines are RNA based so are still effective against the various mutations so far Please...Go on... |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 5:15:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Basically the mutations reside in the DNA not the RNA The two vaccines are RNA based so are still effective against the various mutations so far Is that why the flu shot stays the same every year? |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 5:16:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They were worthless from day one. Same fucking reason we don't vaccinate for the other coronavirus that plagues us. The common cold. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 5:19:56 PM EDT
[#29]
Vaccines only work if enough people get them. Half the population doesn't want the vaccine because Biden spent the whole year telling everyone how dangerous the Trump vaccine was.
If only 50 percent of the population gets the vaccine we will have the disease forever, because vaccination immunity doesn't last forever. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 5:21:19 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: A vaccine may keep you from getting a disease but will not treat you if you are currently sick with it. The issue will be with the antibodies created from plasma of recovered people. Those antibodies are too close to the makeup of the original strains. It cuts out some proven treatment options not but not cures like a vaccine would. Monoclonal antibodies are synthetic and should still work depending on how they were made. Some are created with CRSPR technology and are a wide array targeting medicine. They look for mutation variants before they happen based on research from SARS 1 and MERS Whaaaaa I have a feeling synthetic is a loose term, we literally brew them, look up bioreactors. Not all antibodies are created equal and will bond to different parts of the spike protein. We do know some strains will evade antibody mediated immunity from some but not all strains. For example a previous mutation evaded Regeneron but not Eli Lillies or ours. We literally identified +/- 150 antibodies back in early January just from the original strains and many are still good against all mutations of the virus so far. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 5:26:57 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Vaccines only work if enough people get them. Half the population doesn't want the vaccine because Biden spent the whole year telling everyone how dangerous the Trump vaccine was. That may be true for some folks. I just don't want an unproven technology vaccine. Give it 10-20 years and then ask me. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 5:39:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Whaaaaa I have a feeling synthetic is a loose term, we literally brew them, look up bioreactors. Not all antibodies are created equal and will bond to different parts of the spike protein. We do know some strains will evade antibody mediated immunity from some but not all strains. For example a previous mutation evaded Regeneron but not Eli Lillies or ours. We literally identified +/- 150 antibodies back in early January just from the original strains and many are still good against all mutations of the virus so far. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: A vaccine may keep you from getting a disease but will not treat you if you are currently sick with it. The issue will be with the antibodies created from plasma of recovered people. Those antibodies are too close to the makeup of the original strains. It cuts out some proven treatment options not but not cures like a vaccine would. Monoclonal antibodies are synthetic and should still work depending on how they were made. Some are created with CRSPR technology and are a wide array targeting medicine. They look for mutation variants before they happen based on research from SARS 1 and MERS Whaaaaa I have a feeling synthetic is a loose term, we literally brew them, look up bioreactors. Not all antibodies are created equal and will bond to different parts of the spike protein. We do know some strains will evade antibody mediated immunity from some but not all strains. For example a previous mutation evaded Regeneron but not Eli Lillies or ours. We literally identified +/- 150 antibodies back in early January just from the original strains and many are still good against all mutations of the virus so far. I'm a carpenter bro. lol  Maybe "engineered" not synthetic?  |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 5:46:19 PM EDT
[#33]
Vaccines/inoculations take a weak, similar, Virus protein coat, or dead strain of a virus to introduce into the host so their own immune system creates the proper anti bodies to fight off a virus. This new technique in theory, targets our immune system by introducing a synthetic mRNA recoding our immune response to fend off the virus. What you know as Vaccines create a response through the DNA which is the natural process of our immune system. The m in mRNA is for messenger which bypasses the normal immune system response.
The concern by some is that the mRNA creates a response that our immune system does not do naturally. What are the implications of this? For instance we have discovered creatures with symbiotic relationships with viruses, such as Aphids with Acyrthosiphon pisum virus. Without this symbiotic relationship the Aphids would not be able to adapt to eat certain plants. A healthy person has what is called the Human Virome. This consists of hundreds of trillions of viruses. Some inhabit the bacteria's in our bodies others directly our cells. We do not know how many possible beneficial symbiotic Viruses are in us. Nor do we know what the implications of what introducing this mRNA will do to these potential beneficial viruses and the potential health issues. Certain viruses that are harmless to us fend off bacteria. Remove those helpful viruses and those bacteria could over run our system. https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2013/05/friendly-viruses-protect-us-against-bacteria https://www.inverse.com/article/49747-what-is-the-human-virome |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 5:50:34 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm a carpenter bro. lol Maybe "engineered" not synthetic? https://i.postimg.cc/sg30971D/Screen-Shot-2021-01-16-at-4-38-06-PM.png Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: A vaccine may keep you from getting a disease but will not treat you if you are currently sick with it. The issue will be with the antibodies created from plasma of recovered people. Those antibodies are too close to the makeup of the original strains. It cuts out some proven treatment options not but not cures like a vaccine would. Monoclonal antibodies are synthetic and should still work depending on how they were made. Some are created with CRSPR technology and are a wide array targeting medicine. They look for mutation variants before they happen based on research from SARS 1 and MERS Whaaaaa I have a feeling synthetic is a loose term, we literally brew them, look up bioreactors. Not all antibodies are created equal and will bond to different parts of the spike protein. We do know some strains will evade antibody mediated immunity from some but not all strains. For example a previous mutation evaded Regeneron but not Eli Lillies or ours. We literally identified +/- 150 antibodies back in early January just from the original strains and many are still good against all mutations of the virus so far. I'm a carpenter bro. lol Maybe "engineered" not synthetic? https://i.postimg.cc/sg30971D/Screen-Shot-2021-01-16-at-4-38-06-PM.png  Example of a bioreactor, basically the larger scale ones look like a brewery. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 5:52:42 PM EDT
[#35]
Quoted: Does the vaccine even work against the new strains popping up? LOL! What do you think you will be told???? |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 5:54:37 PM EDT
[#36]
The vaccine works as they expected. Pharma is getting rich, democrat politicians have been placed in power, politicians are controlling your life and the economy, socialism has become the new norm and people have turned on their family and each other reporting mask violaters. Oh yes, it's working.
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Posted: 1/16/2021 5:55:07 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Vaccines/inoculations take a weak, similar, Virus protein coat, or dead strain of a virus to introduce into the host so their own immune system creates the proper anti bodies to fight off a virus. This new technique in theory, targets our immune system by introducing a synthetic mRNA recoding our immune response to fend off the virus. What you know as Vaccines create a response through the DNA which is the natural process of our immune system. The m in mRNA is for messenger which bypasses the normal immune system response. The concern by some is that the mRNA creates a response that our immune system does not do naturally. What are the implications of this? For instance we have discovered creatures with symbiotic relationships with viruses, such as Aphids with Acyrthosiphon pisum virus. Without this symbiotic relationship the Aphids would not be able to adapt to eat certain plants. A healthy person has what is called the Human Virome. This consists of hundreds of trillions of viruses. Some inhabit the bacteria's in our bodies others directly our cells. We do not know how many possible beneficial symbiotic Viruses are in us. Nor do we know what the implications of what introducing this mRNA will do to these potential beneficial viruses and the potential health issues. Certain viruses that are harmless to us fend off bacteria. Remove those helpful viruses and those bacteria could over run our system. https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2013/05/friendly-viruses-protect-us-against-bacteria https://www.inverse.com/article/49747-what-is-the-human-virome mRNA does not recode the immune system. It tells the cells how to generate a fragment of the virus. Our cells are basically factories and the mRNA is what programs the days run (in broad laymen’s terms) Having said that it gets really fun when explaining self replicating mRNA to people, you can really get them to ratchet down on the tinfoil there. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 5:56:55 PM EDT
[#38]
The Brazil variant emerged in July and has three key mutations in the spike protein that make it similar to the South Africa one.
The South Africa variant emerged in October, and it has more potentially important changes in the spike protein than the UK variant. It has one of the same mutations as the UK one, plus two more that scientists think may interfere more with vaccine effectiveness. One of these may help the virus evade parts of the immune system called antibodies. Best guess seems to be the vaccine will work less. It will still protect you much, much better if you get a variant. Think maybe very sick, but no ventilator. Worth it. https://www.bbc.com/news/health-55659820 |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 6:01:45 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The vaccine works as they expected. Pharma is getting rich, democrat politicians have been placed in power, politicians are controlling your life and the economy, socialism has become the new norm and people have turned on their family and each other reporting mask violaters. Oh yes, it's working. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 6:02:44 PM EDT
[#40]
Quoted: Does the vaccine even work against the new strains popping up? Yes And even if it didn’t it would take only a few weeks to creat a new one. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 6:04:36 PM EDT
[#41]
By the way, big congrats to Columbus, OH for getting their own strain.
Columbus variant, COH.20G/501Y, |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 6:04:50 PM EDT
[#42]
No. Strains are common
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Posted: 1/16/2021 6:11:41 PM EDT
[#43]
Yes. Just look at flu vaccines. Need a new one every year.
Since COVID eradicated the flu the solution is simple. A new disease is needed. I say a bio-engineered "brain worm" that only infects Communists/Liberals/Leftists/Democrats. 
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Posted: 1/16/2021 6:22:27 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes. Just look at flu vaccines. Need a new one every year. Since COVID eradicated the flu the solution is simple. A new disease is needed. I say a bio-engineered "brain worm" that only infects Communists/Liberals/Leftists/Democrats. COVID didn’t eradicate the flu. Flu is still occurs but is less prevalent because people are taking extra precautions against COVID. The flu strains this year are also relatively mild leading to less serious illness. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 6:54:39 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: mRNA does not recode the immune system. It tells the cells how to generate a fragment of the virus. Our cells are basically factories and the mRNA is what programs the days run (in broad laymen's terms) Having said that it gets really fun when explaining self replicating mRNA to people, you can really get them to ratchet down on the tinfoil there. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Vaccines/inoculations take a weak, similar, Virus protein coat, or dead strain of a virus to introduce into the host so their own immune system creates the proper anti bodies to fight off a virus. This new technique in theory, targets our immune system by introducing a synthetic mRNA recoding our immune response to fend off the virus. What you know as Vaccines create a response through the DNA which is the natural process of our immune system. The m in mRNA is for messenger which bypasses the normal immune system response. The concern by some is that the mRNA creates a response that our immune system does not do naturally. What are the implications of this? For instance we have discovered creatures with symbiotic relationships with viruses, such as Aphids with Acyrthosiphon pisum virus. Without this symbiotic relationship the Aphids would not be able to adapt to eat certain plants. A healthy person has what is called the Human Virome. This consists of hundreds of trillions of viruses. Some inhabit the bacteria's in our bodies others directly our cells. We do not know how many possible beneficial symbiotic Viruses are in us. Nor do we know what the implications of what introducing this mRNA will do to these potential beneficial viruses and the potential health issues. Certain viruses that are harmless to us fend off bacteria. Remove those helpful viruses and those bacteria could over run our system. https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2013/05/friendly-viruses-protect-us-against-bacteria https://www.inverse.com/article/49747-what-is-the-human-virome mRNA does not recode the immune system. It tells the cells how to generate a fragment of the virus. Our cells are basically factories and the mRNA is what programs the days run (in broad laymen's terms) Having said that it gets really fun when explaining self replicating mRNA to people, you can really get them to ratchet down on the tinfoil there. How in depth do you want me to go? The mRNA literally carries the coding to cells which the cells take the code to create a synthesized protein to protect against the virus. We have no idea what other viruses this protein inhibits or potentially encourages. Our cells are also constantly exchanging information with Bacteria with processes such as lateral gene transfer. Introducing this synthetic protein through mRNA does not occur in a vacuum. This time these mRNA's might have no consequences but the public is not being told potential risks. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 6:58:40 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: With a few exceptions (e.g. the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine) the vaccines are a completely new model. They do not rely on dead or attenuated virus creating antibodies, but use artificial techniques to generate antibodies against specific proteins, the ones that actually allow the virus to attach to the body. Given that, it is likely that the old-style vaccines will become ineffective, in the same way that they do against flu, which is another corona virus, and corona viruses by their very nature mutate pretty quickly. But the mutations, even if their structure is a bit different, still attack in the same way (otherwise, it would be a different disease). Targeting the "tools" it uses to attack means that the antibodies generated by one of these vaccines will still work. These are next generation vaccines, ones that have been on the research board for a long time, ones that were intended to produce things like a one-time flu vaccine. The development was pushed by COVID-19, by Trump kicking butt and getting the red tape out of the way, and throwing money at it. You have seen the resistance even so -- vested interests still want to control everything, and the pharmaceutical industry didn't get to control the roll-out to maximize profit. These vaccines are not a silver bullet, but they are the first step towards one. One that could pretty much end RNA-virus disease eventually. Very interesting. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 11:51:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes. Just look at flu vaccines. Need a new one every year. Since COVID eradicated the flu the solution is simple. A new disease is needed. I say a bio-engineered "brain worm" that only infects Communists/Liberals/Leftists/Democrats.  Communism ruins everything...   |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 12:03:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Incorrect This is new vaccine technology Kind of attacks the RNA of the virus That hasn't changed with the mutations Mutations have been in the DNA The moderna and phizer vaccines enter your own cells and alter the RNA to produce the spike proteins on the outer shell of the virus. Your immune system is then able to develop antibodies to the spike proteins. The vaccine should work as long as the mutations In the virus do not alter the protein spikes enough so that the antibodies developed cease to work. |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 12:10:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: By the way, big congrats to Columbus, OH for getting their own strain. Columbus variant, COH.20G/501Y, Tastes like Fentanyl. Ann Arbor has the British one on the loose now. Lady went to the UK and brought some back I'm gonna collect em all! |
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Posted: 1/17/2021 12:19:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How in depth do you want me to go? The mRNA literally carries the coding to cells which the cells take the code to create a synthesized protein to protect against the virus. We have no idea what other viruses this protein inhibits or potentially encourages. Our cells are also constantly exchanging information with Bacteria with processes such as lateral gene transfer. Introducing this synthetic protein through mRNA does not occur in a vacuum. This time these mRNA's might have no consequences but the public is not being told potential risks. Your immune system creates antibodies for the proteins so that if an actual virus enters your system your immune system is ready to produce antibodies. |
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