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Posted: 9/27/2022 9:28:20 AM EDT
[#1]
Abortion should be banned after 1040 weeks.
It would be funny if someone brought a very late term pregnant woman to an abortion clinic in a state where post birth abortion was allowed with a hidden camera and had her ask about it. Then have her say she needs to think about it but will be back tomorrow. The next day bring in a teenager and have her ask about aborting him. Say shit like I'm trying to start a new family and I never wanted him anyway. It's just inconvenient to keep him and he's a constant reminder of my failed relationship with his father. Even say stuff like he's not even smart enough to know what we're talking about. |
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Posted: 9/27/2022 9:28:54 AM EDT
[#2]
I dunno ask the baby.
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Posted: 9/27/2022 9:31:47 AM EDT
[#3]
From conception to birth there is no time that life is not present. The parents have life. The ovum & sperm have life. At every stage of development of the embryo there is life. At birth there is life. As far as women's choice with her body, she made her choice when she pulled her pants down.
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Posted: 9/27/2022 9:32:10 AM EDT
[#4]
 Put Em Down - Cyanide & Happiness Shorts |
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Posted: 9/27/2022 9:32:28 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/27/2022 9:35:22 AM EDT
[#6]
Legally, I would set the limit with first fetal brain activity. Approximately seven weeks. I view human life as beginning and ending with brain activity.
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Posted: 9/27/2022 9:35:41 AM EDT
[#7]
Always the ones who weren't aborted that want it.
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Posted: 9/27/2022 9:36:44 AM EDT
[#8]
Literally no one will be convinced either way in this thread.
I think abortion is fine until just about the end of the second trimester. Then it should be reserved for cases of health of the mother, severe mental/physical deformities, still births/non-viability, etc.. |
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Posted: 9/27/2022 9:38:52 AM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: From conception to birth there is no time that life is not present. The parents have life. The ovum & sperm have life. At every stage of development of the embryo there is life. At birth there is life. As far as women's choice with her body, she made her choice when she pulled her pants down. There's life in a lobotomized coma patient and life in a used condom. But is there a person or at least a mind? Not so much. That's the line which matters, IMO. |
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Posted: 9/27/2022 9:46:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There's life in a lobotomized coma patient and life in a used condom. But is there a person or at least a mind? Not so much. That's the line which matters, IMO. The potential of sentience is the difference there. That's the line drawn by Ben Shapiro and I can't personally find fault in his argument. Conception is the best line to draw in the sand. My opinion. Which is worth what you paid for it. |
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Posted: 9/27/2022 9:47:30 AM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Legally, I would set the limit with first fetal brain activity. Approximately seven weeks. I view human life as beginning and ending with brain activity. I’d support that. But hey, I’m just a guy. |
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Posted: 9/27/2022 9:49:25 AM EDT
[#12]
I myself would never want any female I'm involved with or related to, too have an abortion. Especially not one for birth control reason. No way.
Now for rape, medical or some other legit health reason, I'm open to think/discus, just not for birth control. I'm so tired of the nasty wenches that I see posting on FB or writing on the windows of their cars in support of this. I'm to the point where I think, eh, it mostly reduces future liberal and dem voters, so Fvckit. Who cares. |
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Posted: 9/27/2022 9:50:08 AM EDT
[#13]
Fetal Heartbeats Fake. Stacey Abrams says so.
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Posted: 9/27/2022 9:54:46 AM EDT
[#14]
Abortion is not birth control.
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Posted: 9/27/2022 9:55:06 AM EDT
[#15]
I dunno, as a whole I think government control over anything is a bad thing but there are some real head scratchers for me.
If some 14 year old girl gets raped by her uncle Eddie I don't really understand the arguement for not letting her have an abortion if she wants it. Rape, incest, and she isnt even an adult. How could she provide? Or if a 19 year old college freshman gets attacked and gang raped by 3 meth heads on the street? should she be forced to become a parent because of someone elses ill intent? She's a college student and likely does not have a job or if she does its minimum wage. So do you give them free hand outs to help them along or say tough luck, get by however you can. Now if some girl is just voluntarily sleeping around a bunch and happens to get pregnant because she is being careless I dont really agree with having an abortion. You knew the risks and did it anyway at your own accord. At the same time if she is being that careless how careless would she be raising a child and how would that kid turn out? The reality is regardless of what we think people are going to do what they are going to do anyway whether there is a formal way to do things or not. |
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Posted: 9/27/2022 9:56:02 AM EDT
[#16]
Abortion during the first trimester should be allowed IMO.
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Posted: 9/27/2022 9:58:02 AM EDT
[#17]
Should we legalize murder? If so, under what circumstances? (Murder, not manslaughter).
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Posted: 9/27/2022 9:59:51 AM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Always the ones who weren't aborted that want it. Baby killers. |
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Posted: 9/27/2022 9:59:55 AM EDT
[#19]
It's murder.
The law should protect the innocent or those unable to advocate for themselves. A person should not be forced to forfeit their life to pay for the careless decision/acts of another. There are viable alternatives. |
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Posted: 9/27/2022 10:00:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I dunno, as a whole I think government control over anything is a bad thing but there are some real head scratchers for me. If some 14 year old girl gets raped by her uncle Eddie I don't really understand the arguement for not letting her have an abortion if she wants it. Rape, incest, and she isnt even an adult. How could she provide? Or if a 19 year old college freshman gets attacked and gang raped by 3 meth heads on the street? should she be forced to become a parent because of someone elses ill intent? She's a college student and likely does not have a job or if she does its minimum wage. So do you give them free hand outs to help them along or say tough luck, get by however you can. Now if some girl is just voluntarily sleeping around a bunch and happens to get pregnant because she is being careless I dont really agree with having an abortion. You knew the risks and did it anyway at your own accord. At the same time if she is being that careless how careless would she be raising a child and how would that kid turn out? The reality is regardless of what we think people are going to do what they are going to do anyway whether there is a formal way to do things or not. This is the issue. Everyone (both sides) gets hung up on the 0.3% of abortions that this pertains to (rape/incest/health of mother). Let's first agree on the 99.7% and then we can chat exceptions later. |
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Posted: 9/27/2022 10:01:17 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/27/2022 10:02:19 AM EDT
[#22]
At the time of Roe V. Wade, it was an understanding that abortion would be "rare" and "ok" in specific situations. The left's desire to push to kill the unborn up until birth in all situations is what led to Roe V. Wade being over-turned. IMO, the majority of abortions is a matter of a woman "getting rid" of a life as it inconvenient and/or unwanted at the time. Abortion is these cases should not be ok.
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Posted: 9/27/2022 10:03:15 AM EDT
[#23]
Abortion is genocide. Just ask the early proponents what their thoughts were on inferior races.
“We don’t want the word to get out that we want to exterminate the Negro population.” -Margaret Sanger |
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Posted: 9/27/2022 10:04:47 AM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Legally, I would set the limit with first fetal brain activity. Approximately seven weeks. I view human life as beginning and ending with brain activity. Doesn’t that seem somewhat arbitrary? Detection of brain activity is a very recent development when looked at in the grand scheme of things. What if at some point medical technology advances to the point that brain activity is detectable at 4 weeks? Does the “approximately” part cause you any concern? |
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Posted: 9/27/2022 10:04:50 AM EDT
[#25]
If the woman had to flip a coin to see which one of them; her or the baby, get's to leave alive, that would cut the business way down.
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Posted: 9/27/2022 10:05:06 AM EDT
[#26]
killing a baby is not birth control.
Keeping your dick in your pants and keeping the woman on birth control is birth control |
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Posted: 9/27/2022 10:05:11 AM EDT
[#27]
Abortion is to women what total freedom is to a man, the ultimate ability to make it so you can get the best of the opposite sex.
Women control politics in the US as they are more numerous & politically active. Since the 19th Amendment have men seen their freedom restricted for the benefit of women? Now they want to kill unborn babies for convenience & to maximize their chance of being seen as desirable to an ever better man with resources, genetics, & social status. |
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Posted: 9/27/2022 10:06:59 AM EDT
[#28]
Some people shouldn't be trusted to raise a puppy, much less a human.
Many of these people fall into the "pro-abortion" group. Strangely, I'm okay with that. There are no simple answers. ETA "Abortion is murder" in the truest sense. Babies can't defend themselves and have no voice. |
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Posted: 9/27/2022 10:09:21 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I dunno ask the baby. Twenty plus types of birth control and these fucks are focused on killing children as their method. |
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Posted: 9/27/2022 10:25:03 AM EDT
[#30]
All abortion should be illegal, that includes the extremely rare instances of incess and rape.
It's either killing a baby or its not. You can't argue that killing a baby is wrong normally but that it's okay if someone was raped. Abortion is murdering a baby. It's that simple. If you disagree with me, I absolutely DARE you to go to youtube and watch an abortion. If you don't have a sick feeling in your stomach something is wrong with you. That sick feeling is telling you the answer to OPs question. |
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Posted: 9/27/2022 10:27:13 AM EDT
[#31]
The Democrats voted for the Women's Health Protection Act which would allow abortions up to 9 months, a position supported by only about 10% of the public. Lindsey Graham's bill would allow abortions up to 15 weeks, a position supported by overwhelming public opinion in the US and the standard in many European countries. Which party is the extremist on abortion?
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Posted: 9/27/2022 10:27:58 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Doesn't that seem somewhat arbitrary? Detection of brain activity is a very recent development when looked at in the grand scheme of things. What if at some point medical technology advances to the point that brain activity is detectable at 4 weeks? Does the "approximately" part cause you any concern? I'm fine with bumping the restriction back a couple weeks. I'm not fine with it going later. |
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Posted: 9/27/2022 10:31:34 AM EDT
[#33]
I'm not really pro abortion, but I also can't tell a rape victim, or a woman who might have a baby with severe disabilities to give birth
but I also realize it would cut down on the liberal population because that's who wants them on demand |
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Posted: 9/27/2022 10:39:45 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is the issue. Everyone (both sides) gets hung up on the 0.3% of abortions that this pertains to (rape/incest/health of mother). Let's first agree on the 99.7% and then we can chat exceptions later. Oh yea for sure. If your being a floozy sleeping around and want an abortion as a form of birth control, sorry but that's not right. At this point in everyones lives you can take precautions - but even then you still accept the risk that nothing is 100% effective. when you tango you are taking a chance. it's just the way it is. On to the rest of it If you are getting one because you are claiming rape or incest for an abortion 1. there needs to be an official report filed on the incident as soon as possible 2. charges filed on the attacker and DNA collected from the incident and attacker (provided they arent at large) 3. criminal penalties 4. in the event a false police report was filed just because you wanted an abortion - jail time. For the health reasons I get it there as well. for me I say if proceeding has a real chance of killing the mother (doctor's words) then its ok. |
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Posted: 9/27/2022 10:40:27 AM EDT
[#35]
My opinions have crystallized on this in the last year and I now think the only consistent position I can take is that all abortion should be banned.
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Posted: 9/27/2022 10:42:48 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm fine with bumping the restriction back a couple weeks. I'm not fine with it going later. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Doesn't that seem somewhat arbitrary? Detection of brain activity is a very recent development when looked at in the grand scheme of things. What if at some point medical technology advances to the point that brain activity is detectable at 4 weeks? Does the "approximately" part cause you any concern? I'm fine with bumping the restriction back a couple weeks. I'm not fine with it going later. I guess that’s what I’m getting at. If the current technology can detect brain activity at 7 weeks, but a hypothetical future technology was able to detect some activity at 4 weeks, what were the babies that were aborted between 4 and 7 weeks before the technology made earlier detection possible? You wouldn’t have to go back very far to get to the time that detection of brain activity wasn’t possible at all. I respect other opinions, but naturally I have my own and try to make my points on them when I can. In my opinion, drawing the line anywhere other than at conception is arbitrary, and subject to change for numerous reasons. If there is even a chance that they are human babies, I don’t think we should kill them for any reason. The stakes are just too high to take chances. |
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Posted: 9/27/2022 10:43:02 AM EDT
[#37]
killing babies is bad, but it's probably best left between you and your god.
that being said, hurting tiny innocent beings, whether they are people or kittens is fucking abhorrent. So I think abortion should not be legal after the baby develops nerves and can feel. So whenever that is. Unless there are other factors like health of the mother, fetus has gone sideways or something (My sis in law had a baby that literally never developed a brain. it had a lower brain stem but literally no brain, just water. ) But even then, no just ripping it apart in utero like libs like to do. Gently euthanize it like you would any pet, and remove it. You can terminate a pregnancy without tearing a baby apart limb from limb in screaming pain. |
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Posted: 9/27/2022 10:53:26 AM EDT
[#38]
Moloch or Baal approved!
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Posted: 9/27/2022 10:58:02 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My opinions have crystallized on this in the last year and I now think the only consistent position I can take is that all abortion should be banned. I was pro choice until I met my wife. She is a biology professor and we had a loooong talk about abortion. She proceeded to absolutely destroy every argument I had for why abortion wasn't so bad. So here I am now, entirely against all forms of abortion. But unlike most people, I actually do shit like contribute and fundraise for pregnancy centers that help women make the decision to keep the baby. |
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Posted: 9/27/2022 10:59:06 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryUp till 18 years old should about do it |
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Posted: 9/27/2022 11:00:40 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Moloch or Baal approved! 
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Posted: 9/27/2022 11:03:04 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: From conception to birth there is no time that life is not present. The parents have life. The ovum & sperm have life. At every stage of development of the embryo there is life. At birth there is life. As far as women's choice with her body, she made her choice when she pulled her pants down. |
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Posted: 9/27/2022 11:03:16 AM EDT
[#43]
Killing innocent humans because their existence is inconvenient to others should not be legal.
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Posted: 9/27/2022 11:05:39 AM EDT
[#44]
I used to be staunchly pro life.
But the last few years have made we wonder how better off we’d be if certain people never came to be. I know. I’m going to Hell. I was going anyway, may as well go full throttle. |
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Posted: 9/27/2022 11:05:55 AM EDT
[#45]
Never understood the right’s aversion to abortion.
The people that want and get abortions are exactly the type of people we don’t want reproducing. Legal abortions are a win for both sides. |
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Posted: 9/27/2022 11:07:01 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Never understood the right's aversion to abortion. The people that want and get abortions are exactly the type of people we don't want reproducing. Legal abortions are a win for both sides. |
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Posted: 9/27/2022 11:08:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I guess that's what I'm getting at. If the current technology can detect brain activity at 7 weeks, but a hypothetical future technology was able to detect some activity at 4 weeks, what were the babies that were aborted between 4 and 7 weeks before the technology made earlier detection possible? You wouldn't have to go back very far to get to the time that detection of brain activity wasn't possible at all. I respect other opinions, but naturally I have my own and try to make my points on them when I can. In my opinion, drawing the line anywhere other than at conception is arbitrary, and subject to change for numerous reasons. If there is even a chance that they are human babies, I don't think we should kill them for any reason. The stakes are just too high to take chances. You really can't back it up three weeks and expect to be able to detect brain waves at some future point because there are no brain cells to detect brain waves from. |
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Posted: 9/27/2022 11:09:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you realize how many sperm I've murdered of this is the case? Actually sperm is not considered a living organism. To be considered a living organisms there must be growth, reproduction, and response to external environments (at a minimum). Sperm do not meet those criteria. When the sperm combines with the egg they then form a living organism. |
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Posted: 9/27/2022 11:09:48 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Never understood the right’s aversion to abortion. The people that want and get abortions are exactly the type of people we don’t want reproducing. Legal abortions are a win for both sides. Yay, let's kill all democrats! 
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Posted: 9/27/2022 11:11:12 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Never understood the right’s aversion to abortion. The people that want and get abortions are exactly the type of people we don’t want reproducing. Legal abortions are a win for both sides. While I might prefer that they didn’t reproduce, I don’t want to kill their children, and I don’t want them to kill them either. Not everything is politics. |
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