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Posted: 4/9/2021 9:35:44 AM EDT
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I'm not so sure the Jews have the market cornered on this sort of thing.
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Posted: 4/9/2021 9:55:43 AM EDT
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Saying the name isn’t the same as blaspheming . It’s interesting because there is no commandment from Elohim to never say His name.
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Posted: 4/9/2021 11:49:21 AM EDT
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3Take words with yourselves and return to the Lord. Say, "You shall forgive all iniquity and teach us [the] good [way], and let us render [for] bulls [the offering of] our lips.
Hosea 14:3 ETA: I’m not Jewish, but have wondered the same. Without the ability to render blood sacrifices they rely on prayer. From my understanding, and absolutely no disrespect is meant by my ignorance. |
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Posted: 4/9/2021 11:56:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Saying the name isn't the same as blaspheming . It's interesting because there is no commandment from Elohim to never say His name. That's not really the point. The point being that as the Bible states in the Old Testament, the quote above stands....as do others. So segmenting out Jews and animal sacrifice to the exclusion of a LOT of the Old Testament seems odd. |
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Posted: 4/9/2021 1:35:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's not really the point. The point being that as the Bible states in the Old Testament, the quote above stands....as do others. So segmenting out Jews and animal sacrifice to the exclusion of a LOT of the Old Testament seems odd. I’m not “ segmenting out Jews”. (Singling?). They’re the only ones who are bound to Jewish laws.  Did you read the sabbath thread? Clearly not. But you picked up on what I’m asking anyways: Which of the 613 commandments are ok to ignore and why? |
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Posted: 4/9/2021 3:24:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm not " segmenting out Jews". (Singling?). They're the only ones who are bound to Jewish laws. Did you read the sabbath thread? Clearly not. But you picked up on what I'm asking anyways: Which of the 613 commandments are ok to ignore and why? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That's not really the point. The point being that as the Bible states in the Old Testament, the quote above stands....as do others. So segmenting out Jews and animal sacrifice to the exclusion of a LOT of the Old Testament seems odd. I'm not " segmenting out Jews". (Singling?). They're the only ones who are bound to Jewish laws. Did you read the sabbath thread? Clearly not. But you picked up on what I'm asking anyways: Which of the 613 commandments are ok to ignore and why? My point is do you feel bound by the Biblical quote I posted above? If you don't then you'll probably understand why Jews aren't sacrificing animals. |
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Posted: 4/9/2021 5:25:44 PM EDT
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I'm anxious to see how our Jewish posters will respond to, what I think, is an interesting question.
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Posted: 4/9/2021 5:38:58 PM EDT
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Probably the same reason why virtually no Christians leave their family and forsake all their possessions to follow Jesus.
Or why there are dozens of different Protestant denominations. |
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Posted: 4/9/2021 5:54:13 PM EDT
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I'd rather sacrifice liberals.
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Posted: 4/9/2021 7:54:59 PM EDT
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Quoted: Probably the same reason why virtually no Christians leave their family and forsake all their possessions to follow Jesus. Or why there are dozens of different Protestant denominations. This isn’t about Christianity. Please see the thread references in the OP. Quoted: I'd rather sacrifice liberals. Lol no comment |
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Posted: 4/9/2021 8:14:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm anxious to see how our Jewish posters will respond to, what I think, is an interesting question. Both of the resident experts are from NC so it’s sabbath now and they probably can’t respond. But I’m surprised they didn’t have time to elucidate given their postings in other threads all morning and afternoon. |
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Posted: 4/9/2021 8:49:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This isn't about Christianity. Please see the thread references in the OP. Lol no comment Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Probably the same reason why virtually no Christians leave their family and forsake all their possessions to follow Jesus. Or why there are dozens of different Protestant denominations. This isn't about Christianity. Please see the thread references in the OP. Quoted: I'd rather sacrifice liberals. Lol no comment |
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Posted: 4/9/2021 10:09:12 PM EDT
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@10mm
I'd be interested to get your input here. |
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Posted: 4/9/2021 10:10:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It was an analogy. Substitute any other religion you like. The point is the same. I understand your analogy. It’s not pertinent to the thread. |
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Posted: 4/9/2021 10:13:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @10mm I'd be interested to get your input here. @snow_ball can probably shed some light as well |
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Posted: 4/9/2021 10:23:00 PM EDT
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I may be wrong, I'm not up on how the Jewish execute the religious ceremonies.
I think... (probably wrong) they are waiting for their "temple" to be rebuilt before they can continue their sacrifices properly. |
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Posted: 4/9/2021 10:31:37 PM EDT
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I've heard this as well, but my friend who is a Sephardic Jew says it depends on the sect.
Oh, and for those who get their feelings hurt because of a lack of education, here is the definition of sect according to Merriam-Webster: sect noun Definition of sect (Entry 1 of 2) 1a: a dissenting or schismatic religious body especially : one regarded as extreme or heretical b: a religious denomination The first one is a political definition, or how it's used in secular media. The second is a theological definition, how it is meant here. |
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Posted: 4/9/2021 10:56:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I understand your analogy. It's not pertinent to the thread. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It was an analogy. Substitute any other religion you like. The point is the same. I understand your analogy. It's not pertinent to the thread. Carry on with your tremendous thread, I'm sure it'll be enlightening. |
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Posted: 4/9/2021 10:56:41 PM EDT
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The short answer is Jews don't have a place to sacrifice anything after the destruction of the second temple.
As there is no current prophet then technically speaking a new temple is unable to be built. however, "Korban" for many jews is eventually going to come back /not jewish, just read a lot. (ie could be wrong) |
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Posted: 4/11/2021 5:02:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The short answer is Jews don't have a place to sacrifice anything after the destruction of the second temple. As there is no current prophet then technically speaking a new temple is unable to be built. however, "Korban" for many jews is eventually going to come back /not jewish, just read a lot. (ie could be wrong) Yep, no Temple no sacrifices.. |
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Posted: 4/11/2021 5:19:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd rather sacrifice liberals. Animal sacrifice was to put your sins on an innocent (because it doesn't know any better) creature. |
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Posted: 4/23/2021 10:52:44 AM EDT
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Quoted: The short answer is Jews don't have a place to sacrifice anything after the destruction of the second temple. As there is no current prophet then technically speaking a new temple is unable to be built. however, "Korban" for many jews is eventually going to come back /not jewish, just read a lot. (ie could be wrong) I don't think this could be the answer. The Jews sacrificed before the 1st temple. They sacrificed in the tabernacle, or even just built altars and sacrificed. Am I misunderstanding something? Quoted: The 10 commandments thread got me thinking. Why don’t today’s Jews follow all of the rules in the Pentateuch? For example,why are burnt offerings not made? Did God put an asterisk in the Law to mark an exception to the rule? Or was it a decision made by men after the fact- similar to the decision in the 2nd century BC to stop saying YHWH out loud or writing English words like “God” as “G-d”? Seems some Jews don’t even believe the Pentateuch is the divine word ? Many don’t keep kosher or even think the Law is binding. How can this be reconciled with Scripture? I’d think a 3800 year religion would be able to agree on such basic tenants? The Jews have ALWAYS not followed all the rules of the Pentateuch. Why? Same reason we ALL sin against God. As far as burnt offering being made, I thought they DO. Maybe not to the extent called for in the OT, but I thought sacrifices, in one form or another, ARE being made in Israel. I could be mistaken. |
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Posted: 4/23/2021 9:05:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't think this could be the answer. The Jews sacrificed before the 1st temple. They sacrificed in the tabernacle, or even just built altars and sacrificed. Am I misunderstanding something? The Jews have ALWAYS not followed all the rules of the Pentateuch. Why? Same reason we ALL sin against God. As far as burnt offering being made, I thought they DO. Maybe not to the extent called for in the OT, but I thought sacrifices, in one form or another, ARE being made in Israel. I could be mistaken. Is there a temple...? is there a new veil..? who is the High Priest..? Wasn't the sacrifices made during the Passover by the High Priest in the temple done to cleanse the Jews of their sins...?? That hasnt happened since Christ Died on the cross.. Weird right...? |
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Posted: 4/26/2021 6:08:07 PM EDT
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Quoted: The 10 commandments thread got me thinking. Why don’t today’s Jews follow all of the rules in the Pentateuch? For example,why are burnt offerings not made? Did God put an asterisk in the Law to mark an exception to the rule? Or was it a decision made by men after the fact- similar to the decision in the 2nd century BC to stop saying YHWH out loud or writing English words like “God” as “G-d”? Seems some Jews don’t even believe the Pentateuch is the divine word ? Many don’t keep kosher or even think the Law is binding. How can this be reconciled with Scripture? I’d think a 3800 year religion would be able to agree on such basic tenants? My understanding is not that in orthodox Judaism they no longer believe in sacrifice, but that it has to be done in a prescribed fashion in a Temple. In the absence of a Temple and its Holy of Holies the Aaron's Priesthood High Priests cannot perform the sacrifices. |
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Posted: 4/28/2021 6:34:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is there a temple...? is there a new veil..? who is the High Priest..? Wasn't the sacrifices made during the Passover by the High Priest in the temple done to cleanse the Jews of their sins...?? That hasnt happened since Christ Died on the cross.. Weird right...? Thread title asks why there aren't animal sacrifices. I think I heard or read something that lead me to think there are some sort of sacrifices happening today. Chill, bro. I get it. Treaty, rebuild the temple, resume sacrifices, break the treaty, abomination that causes desolation... Maybe that'll be coming soon. I was never talking about that. I must be missing your point. |
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Posted: 4/30/2021 3:01:33 PM EDT
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As multiple posters have pointed out, most modern religious Jews do not practice animal sacrifices because the place to carry them out, the temple, as been destroyed.
However, there are a minority of Jews that still practice animal sacrifice of chickens Kapparot: modern animal sacrifice |
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