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Posted: 5/15/2024 5:30:35 PM EDT


Those people 18 and over are expected to be adults and take on adult responsibilities. They are held accountable for their actions.  At 18 a male must register with Selective Service, and join the military. They can entered into contracts and make their own decisions about for their lives and how to live. However, people 18-21 don’t have the same privileges that a person over 21 has.

Can’t purchase or even possess alcohol in most states.  Some places won’t even let people under 21 inside.  This is age discrimination. (I even say that if a person can’t legally buy or possess alcohol then they should be exempt from DUI check points.)  

Denied the right to purchase a handgun/pistol and handgun ammo to be used in a pistol from a FFL

Extended wait and hold times when purchasing a long gun from a FFL when the background check is conducted through NICS.  This happens because the government says so, and not for any other reason.

There might be other denied privileges as well.  This is what springs to mind.

I say that a person is an adult or not.  None of this pro-rated stuff.  A person 18-21 should not be subject to the same laws as people over 21 until they get the same privileges and rights as every other adult. Until the day happens that adults under 21 have every right and privileges as those over 21, then they are second class citizens in this country.
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You should call Bill.
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Originally Posted By DogtownTom:
You should call Bill.
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Who is Bill?

What is his number?
Link Posted: 5/15/2024 5:34:26 PM EDT
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Life isn't fair, get used to it.

It also doesn't have to make sense.
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Life isn't fair, get used to it.

It also doesn't have to make sense.
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Because they are children. The human brain isn’t fully developed until the mid 20s
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Originally Posted By CryptoMan:

(I even say that if a person can’t legally buy or possess alcohol then they should be exempt from DUI check points.)  

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Interesting
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lol
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Old enough to make adult decisions, still too young to leave the stupid kid decisions behind?
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Originally Posted By BB:
Because they are children. The human brain isn’t fully developed until the mid 20s
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Then they should be treated as such.  That also means not allowing them in the military or having to sign up for the draft.  Also can't be charged as adults for any crime.  From petty theft of stealing a candy bar to Murder
Link Posted: 5/15/2024 5:40:29 PM EDT
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Because the people making the rules are mostly over 21.

Frankly I think it’s BS too.
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Government.
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I was an infantry platoon commander when I was 20.  
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Because they are children. The human brain isn't fully developed until the mid 20s


I was an infantry platoon commander when I was 20.  

Link Posted: 5/15/2024 5:41:41 PM EDT
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Interesting
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Originally Posted By CryptoMan:

(I even say that if a person can’t legally buy or possess alcohol then they should be exempt from DUI check points.)  



Interesting


I think DUI checkpoints violate the 4th amendment anyway.  That is whole other thread
Link Posted: 5/15/2024 5:42:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BB:
Because they are children. The human brain isn’t fully developed until the mid 20s
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So, by your logic, they ( 18-20 year olds) should be barred from military service where they will have their under developed brains trained to kill, until at least 21 if not their mid 20s.

Right?
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Boomers reflected on all the joys of adulthood in their 18-21 years and then came into power and made a bunch of laws so it'd be illegal for anyone who came after them to do all the fun things they did
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Originally Posted By CryptoMan:

Then they should be treated as such.  That also means not allowing them in the military or having to sign up for the draft.  Also can't be charged as adults for any crime.  From petty theft of stealing a candy bar to Murder
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Originally Posted By CryptoMan:
Originally Posted By BB:
Because they are children. The human brain isn’t fully developed until the mid 20s

Then they should be treated as such.  That also means not allowing them in the military or having to sign up for the draft.  Also can't be charged as adults for any crime.  From petty theft of stealing a candy bar to Murder



Once the brain is fully developed they're really not all that suitable for the military.
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It is to permanently implant into your brain that the US government can fuck with you and you can't do a damn thing about it.


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I knew some renter would come along and blame it on boomers.
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Interesting points. An adult should be an adult across the board, no cutting off your dick until 18. Have legal beer and an exacto knife, good luck stevette.
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Originally Posted By DK-Prof:


This.

The OP is correct that it doesn't make sense.  You can start driving at 16 in most states, but you have to be 21 to rent a car, even though you can totally buy one when you are 18.
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Originally Posted By packinheavy:
Life isn't fair, get used to it.

It also doesn't have to make sense.


This.

The OP is correct that it doesn't make sense.  You can start driving at 16 in most states, but you have to be 21 to rent a car, even though you can totally buy one when you are 18.


You can buy a car at any age!  I bought a basket case at 14yo to restore.... finished it when I was around 19yo
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Because our government is hypocritical.
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Only they are capable of such irony….
Link Posted: 5/15/2024 5:46:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DK-Prof:


I was also a teenager in a country with no drinking age.  
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Originally Posted By packinheavy:
Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
Originally Posted By BB:
Because they are children. The human brain isn't fully developed until the mid 20s


I was an infantry platoon commander when I was 20.  



I was also a teenager in a country with no drinking age.  
It's amazing your homeland hasn't imploded yet.

The maturity and decision making skills varies greatly amongst my younger troops. There are a few 18 to 21 year olds I trust completely.  But I also have some in there 30s that require intense supervision.
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Originally Posted By BB:
Because they are children. The human brain isn’t fully developed until the mid 20s
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@BB

So, you support child soldiers?
Link Posted: 5/15/2024 5:47:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BB:
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You only get children if you raise children.

If you don't start out with the mindset to raise adults, then you won't end up with adults.
Your plan may not always work out as planned, but it will *always* fail if you didn't have a plan to begin with.
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Government.
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Originally Posted By BB:
Because they are children. The human brain isn’t fully developed until the mid 20s
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I think you are very low on your age.

Have you seen the old ass fucking retarded libs?
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Life isn't fair, get used to it.

It also doesn't have to make sense.
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…dad? Is that you?
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I bet a lot of them don't vote.  So they don't get pandered to.
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It's amazing to watch the disciples of boomertardianism shit in every thread no matter the topic.

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Insurance company profits.
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It's amazing to watch the disciples of boomertardianism shit in every thread no matter the topic.

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Originally Posted By CZRider:
Boomers reflected on all the joys of adulthood in their 18-21 years and then came into power and made a bunch of laws so it'd be illegal for anyone who came after them to do all the fun things they did


It's amazing to watch the disciples of boomertardianism shit in every thread no matter the topic.




It's like their Superpower.
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Originally Posted By DK-Prof:


Denmark is getting erady to institute (limited) conscription for women.  Equal rights for everyone, bitches!!  
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As much as I am against conscription in any form, if it is going to be done then everyone should be.  Young to old, men, women, and every it in between.  Yes that includes government employees, officials and their families.
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I knew some renter would come along and blame it on boomers.
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Originally Posted By CZRider:
Boomers reflected on all the joys of adulthood in their 18-21 years and then came into power and made a bunch of laws so it'd be illegal for anyone who came after them to do all the fun things they did



I knew some renter would come along and blame it on boomers.
You know Adam and Eve were Boomers, right?
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So, you support child soldiers?
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Nope
Link Posted: 5/15/2024 5:53:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DK-Prof:


Denmark is getting erady to institute (limited) conscription for women.  Equal rights for everyone, bitches!!  
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Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
Originally Posted By packinheavy:
Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
Originally Posted By BB:
Because they are children. The human brain isn't fully developed until the mid 20s


I was an infantry platoon commander when I was 20.  



I was also a teenager in a country with no drinking age.  
It's amazing your homeland hasn't imploded yet.

The maturity and decision making skills varies greatly amongst my younger troops. There are a few 18 to 21 year olds I trust completely.  But I also have some in there 30s that require intense supervision.


Denmark is getting erady to institute (limited) conscription for women.  Equal rights for everyone, bitches!!  



Nice!
Link Posted: 5/15/2024 5:54:09 PM EDT
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Or Marco.... Seriously been going on a long time. Try being a young vol firefighter or vol squad at 16.  When I started at the FD they didn't pay in to the retirement system for the first several years.
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Originally Posted By DK-Prof:


I was thinking more along the lines of buying a new car from a dealership - which would normally require a legal contract, which many states do not allow someone under 18 to entre into.

But yeah, you are 100% correct that someone under 18 can presumably buy a used car in a private sale pretty easily.  
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Originally Posted By packinheavy:
Life isn't fair, get used to it.

It also doesn't have to make sense.


This.

The OP is correct that it doesn't make sense.  You can start driving at 16 in most states, but you have to be 21 to rent a car, even though you can totally buy one when you are 18.


You can buy a car at any age!  I bought a basket case at 14yo to restore.... finished it when I was around 19yo


I was thinking more along the lines of buying a new car from a dealership - which would normally require a legal contract, which many states do not allow someone under 18 to entre into.

But yeah, you are 100% correct that someone under 18 can presumably buy a used car in a private sale pretty easily.  


Sorry, that's a pet peeve of mine - especially when it applied against fun control.  "You have a to have a DL, insurance& registration to buy a car"   The fuck you do - give cash, get keys!  That's it... nothing else required.
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dad? Is that you?
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Originally Posted By packinheavy:
Life isn't fair, get used to it.

It also doesn't have to make sense.


dad? Is that you?
Maybe, didn't think my son was a member here.
Link Posted: 5/15/2024 5:56:20 PM EDT
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If they have not figured out that classism exists in America they must believe the government.

Half of America has the brain function of a 10 year old. How else would they understand what demoncrats say.
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I'm a firm believer that this attitude is a significant contributor to all the stereotypical issues seen in millennials and younger generations. Turns out if you treat someone like a child straight through from cradle to college and condition them to just take tests and go to school and do as they're told you'll get a fragile and anxious mess of a human being who only knows how to latch onto some kind of authority figure and follow instructions.
Link Posted: 5/15/2024 5:58:07 PM EDT
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Because you aren't paying all the costs to be the boss.
Link Posted: 5/15/2024 5:59:28 PM EDT
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18 year olds shouldn't be allowed to vote until they are 21.



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Well, as with most things it was the suburban white women Karens. Known as MADD during those years.

Real good at girl bossing shit into retard levels.
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