Incredible claims have been made about Bob Lazar for years. He supposedly is a physicist with an MS in Physics from MIT and an MS in Electronics from the California Institute of Technology. He was a “Scientist” for Los Alamos National Laboratory, and obtained a job back-engineering UFOs at a very secret site S-4 near Area 51 in Nevada through noted Physicist, the late Dr. Edward Teller.

Supposedly he figured out how saucers work using Element 115 — matter/anti-matter, etc. He was able to steal a small quantity of 115 from the 500 pounds available, but this was stolen back. There was indeed an announcement in early 2004 about the production of 4 atoms of element 115 by operating a huge European accelerator for many weeks. It has a very short half life so there is no way to accumulate pounds of it. He supposedly came forward with his story despite death threats because he thought the public has a right to know. Videotapes are available with his claims.

It is all BUNK.

Not one shred of evidence has been put forth to support this story: No diplomas, no résumés, no transcripts, no memberships in professional organizations, no papers, no pages from MIT or Caltech yearbooks. He also mentioned, in a phone conversation with me, California State University at Northridge and Pierce Junior College — also in the San Fernando Valley, California. I checked all four schools. Pierce said he had taken electronics courses in the late 1970s. The other three schools never heard of him.

The page from the Los Alamos National Lab phone book with Lazar’s name on it clearly states that it includes employees of the DOE and outside contractor, Kirk Meyer. “K/M” follows Lazar’s name. This proves he worked for K/M, not LANL.

I checked with LANL’s personnel department for Lazar’s name and that of an old colleague. They found my guy, but not Lazar.

He was publicly asked when he got his MS from MIT. He said “Let me see now, I think it was probably 1982.” Nobody getting an MS from MIT would not know the year immediately. He was asked to name some of his profs, He said: “Let’s see now, Bill Duxler will remember me from the physics department at Caltech.” I located Dr. Duxler. He’s a Pierce Junior College physics prof, and never taught at Caltech. Lazar was registered in one of his courses at the same time Lazar was supposedly at MIT! Nobody who can go to MIT goes to Pierce JC, not to mention the rather long commute between LA and Cambridge, Mass.

I checked his High School in New York State. He graduated in August, not with his class. The only science course he took was chemistry. He ranked 261 out of 369, which is in the bottom third. There is no way he would have been admitted by MIT or Caltech. An MS in Physics from MIT requires a thesis. No such thesis exists at MIT, and he is not on a commencement list. The notion that the government wiped his CIVILIAN records clean is absurd. I checked with the Legal Counsel at MIT — no way to wipe all his records clean. The Physics department never heard of him and he is not a member of the American Physical Society.

When he declared bankruptcy in the mid 1980s for almost $300,000.00 he listed his occupation as a self-employed film processor. With MS degrees from MIT and Caltech? Caltech would not have accepted him for an MS program, if he already had one from MIT.

His propulsion scheme sounds good (as do many science fiction stories), but makes no real sense especially in view of how difficult it would be to add protons to #115. Gravity wave amplification sounds great but what does it mean?

He could not have gotten a Compartmentalized Security clearance having operated a brothel. His W-2 form from the Department of Naval Intelligence totals under $1000.00, at most a week’s pay for a scientist. You can’t get a security clearance in a week.

Scientists leave trails. Lazar is NOT a scientist. He couldn’t even answer scientific questions put to him. An excellent review of Bob’s “Physics” can be seen at web.archive.org/web/20061220030435/http://www.serve.com/mahood/lazar/critiq.htm.

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Something I just remembered that was in the radio interview but not in the article:  People, including Lazar, have claimed that part of his history was 'scrubbed' in an attempt to maintain security (ostensibly by the government).

Dr. Friedman's contention, especially after speaking either to records keepers at either MIT or Caltech, is that there is no way to scrub an entire person's educational footprint.  There are too many things the person's records touch that it would be impossible to have wiped each and every one of them.

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I've said this before but I can't imagine aliens just letting us have and play around with their tech. Would be Like handing keys to a Ferrari over to a 10 year old or giving a nuclear armed B2 bomber over to an uncontacted tribe of Amazonian Indians.

Lazar is almost certainly a fraud... and maybe even a government plant who's story is meant to muddy the waters or direct/control the narrative regarding the UFO phenomenon.

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Apparently the Feds still have a hard-on for him, I am guessing there is more to Bob than just being a fraud.

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Said he worked at Los Alamos.  They said no he didn't.  Until a reporter showed them a Los Alamos phone book with his name on the roster.

I don't know if he's a fraud or not.

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Yup, and his connection to Teller adds some doubt for me that he was just a fraud.

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He worked for a private contractor at Los Alamos, not the government.

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Lol - And?

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IIRC he always maintained he was a government employee.  In other words who knows what he did at Los Alamos?  He could have been the cook in the cafeteria for all we know.

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Lol - And?

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Lazar timeline starts at 39:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jl2356IOTrY

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Well, he tried his hand at pimping and runs a shady "Science Shop" that deals in potentially dangerous stuff so the Feds have enough to stay interested in him sans aliens and flying saucers...

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I've bought from his shady science shop.

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All anybody knows for sure about him is that he did in fact work for Los Alamos. There's a directory with his name in it, and there's also an article about Los Alamos employees' projects they did in their free time, and Lazar is not only named but there's a picture of him in the article.

To this day, Los Alamos claims he never worked for them.

As for his education, there are witnesses who say he did in fact go to the schools he claims he did. They said if he wasn't a student then he made a really good show of it. I can't remember whether it was a family member or friend, but someone would drop him off at school all the time. Also someone who remembers always seeing him in the library studying.

He also knew the test flight schedule at Area 51 for like a two week period. He took reporters out there and told them exactly when a test aircraft would be flying overhead, and lo and behold there it was.

Then there are the hand scanners that were used at Area 51, that Lazar described in detail many times, that were only recently declassified. Employees at Area 51 would have to scan their hands to get into the facility. It's old tech now, but back then it was super cutting edge stuff. He was either there back then, or he knew someone who was who told him about those.

You can't really discount him entirely if you know all the facts. Doesn't mean he's telling the truth about aliens, though. It just means he most likely did work at Area 51, but so did tens of thousands of other people. The strange part is why everyone would band together, from MIT to Los Alamos, to discredit him if he's just a fibber.

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Please cite the MIT and CALTEC witnesses

The hand scanners were common at that time, and were even in the FUCKING CLOSE ENCOUNTERS MOVIE LOLOL

https://external-preview.redd.it/SdS8ycKbs97BYEUhfiHEkvjmjoQLDzfJUCit_Uvmk_0.jpg?width=1129&height=591.09947644&auto=webp&s=f3569f21ccd500ca8962e61a14719c0de199df0f

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Right, but he had no way of knowing they used them at Area 51 until years after he started talking about them. Unless he either worked there or knew someone who did.

So what is your explanation for Los Alamos denying he worked there despite proof he did? And why would they have hired him with nothing but a high school education?

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How do you know what hand scanners they really have at groom lake ?

He probably has a 2 year electronics tech degree, who knows ?

No fucking way he went to MIT and CALTEC

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They were in a photo that was declassified with a bunch of stuff for the stealth fighter program. So as far as I understand it, it's now a matter of public record that identimat scanners were in fact in use at Area 51 during the time Lazar claims he was there.

How do you get hired at Los Alamos with a two year tech degree?

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Y’all have a much higher opinion of Friedman than I do. He has an agenda.

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Y’all have a much higher opinion of Friedman than I do. He has an agenda.

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Y’all have a much higher opinion of Friedman than I do. He has an agenda.

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Right, but he had no way of knowing they used them at Area 51 until years after he started talking about them. Unless he either worked there or knew someone who did.

So what is your explanation for Los Alamos denying he worked there despite proof he did? And why would they have hired him with nothing but a high school education?

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Elements 115 and 116. He discussed them a long time ago in a very crude representation of how the ET power system worked on their craft. You can say 'So what, if you wait long enough, there would be elements 115 and higher anyway.' Well, you're right, but why did he pick 115 and 116, which did appear some years later - check out the names of them - its pretty funny. He could have picked any number that wasn't taken yet (as far as the public knows) and we wouldn't know the difference. The fact that he said '115 and 116' implies to me that 'secret science'
had already reached element numbers much higher than generally known. The new elements were allowed to filter out over the years and it finally was time for 115 and 116. This is based on the well-known rule-of-thumb that what we 'commoners' know as 'state-of-the-art' is probably 20 to 25 years behind what the government has.
So, Lazar is an unstable personality or we would never have heard of him - he wanted to talk about subjects that are forbidden to current and former employees involved in these things in order to make money and become a public figure. In a way, it worked because it made it harder for them to just shut him up, being in the limelight. So, they went with plan B, which is to ignore him overtly, and covertly go behind him and eliminate his scholastic and government employee past. And I wouldn't give you five cents for Friedman's opinions on the subject.

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They were in a photo that was declassified with a bunch of stuff for the stealth fighter program. So as far as I understand it, it's now a matter of public record that identimat scanners were in fact in use at Area 51 during the time Lazar claims he was there.

How do you get hired at Los Alamos with a two year tech degree?