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Posted: 9/22/2022 6:26:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hydrogen and carbon being exposed to heat and pressure. like a refinery. Refineries use fractional distillation of the various hydrocarbons. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 6:26:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I agree with the OP. Dinosaurs my ass. It’s a “renewable” resource that the earth continues to produce. Scarcity is the model of control. Well, that changes things... |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 6:27:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The fossilized shells of Diatoms are mined locally here, Diatomaceous Earth. We use that shit to filter pool water. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 6:28:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And again, nobody with a brain thinks crude oil comes from dinosaurs. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I agree with the OP. Dinosaurs my ass. It's a "renewable" resource that the earth continues to produce. Scarcity is the model of control. And again, nobody with a brain thinks crude oil comes from dinosaurs. lol, no duh... ...it came from dinosaurs |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 6:30:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Correct. Diatoms. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I agree with the OP. Dinosaurs my ass. It's a "renewable" resource that the earth continues to produce. Scarcity is the model of control. No one said it was all dinosaurs. If they are, they need to be tossed. Dinosaurs never had the biomass to produce the reserves we had/have. Think much smaller. I have always assumed it was algae or similar. Correct. Diatoms. Like quarks?... |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 6:34:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Weak case. Going with no until there’s a better argument. Only in GD would the origin of petrochemicals be a conspiracy theory. GD is special in a lot of ways. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 6:45:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: (1) The term is 'abiogenic', not 'abiotic'. (2) If oil formed in the mantle, there would be large scale oil seepage along fault lines - particularly at oceanic rift zones. (1) It's both. (2) There are. (A) Oil seeps, General. (B) Oil Seeps along fault lines. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 6:46:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm on the fence. Could be, could not be. But we didn't stop using whale oil because we ran out of whales. We can turn sunlight into electricity without plants, pressure, or huge amounts of time. ETA: A biogenic source could be tiny, but still possible. Would it give us unlimited oil? Of course not. That was actually a big part of the switch to mineral oils. Near-extinction of key species drove the voyage costs sky high. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 6:46:32 PM EDT
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we are fairly certain that a large % of the oil we extract has a biological basis (not dinosaurs but algae and plankton iirc)
is it possible there are non-biological sources? We can't rule it out without a lot more research. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 6:48:10 PM EDT
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I do too.
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Posted: 9/22/2022 6:50:39 PM EDT
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@Firearmsenthusiast
IIRC the first scientist to propose the idea (or at least produce research) was a Soviet. I'm rusty on the history here but I believe his research was not debunked but rather ran against prevailing ideas to some degree in attempt to discredit anything of truly impactful substance that may have been discovered under the Communist system. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 6:51:26 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/22/2022 7:00:09 PM EDT
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I want to know how fast oil is being generated. It seems that we haven't even tapped more than 20% of known deposits, and that number keeps going down as we discover more deposits/gain access to new technology.
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Posted: 9/22/2022 7:02:54 PM EDT
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Are you talking about the liquefaction of dead dinos that made our oil?
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Posted: 9/22/2022 7:06:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOnly where the plates are old enough to have sufficient organic material deposited, and pretty rare at plate margins overall It is unheard of at ocean rifts. If abiogenic oil production were true, there would be tons of seeps at these points - especially where oceanic plates meet as the crust is especially thin at these places. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 7:06:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The theory in a nutshell: oil comes from a deep geological process that doesn't involve dead dinosaurs. Then it has much in common with the accepted biological theory - that doesn't really involve dinosaurs either. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 7:07:46 PM EDT
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I don't believe in the abiotic theory. Fossil fuel is a misnomer. It's actually biomass, which is not the same as fossils.
It accumulated over hundreds of millions of years. Most people cannot imagine a million years, much less 300 million years, and what can happen over that length of time. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 7:08:05 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/22/2022 7:08:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are you talking about the liquefaction of dead dinos that made our oil? Apparently most of it is not from dinos, but from little plants in the ocean, and then there's some evidence that some is not from biological sources. I would like to know how fast it's being generated. I guess no one really knows, but what we do know is that there are hundreds of years of known supply, and by then we'll have some other technologies to handle energy needs. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 7:11:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Apparently most of it is not from dinos, but from little plants in the ocean, and then there's some evidence that some is not from biological sources. I would like to know how fast it's being generated. I guess no one really knows, but what we do know is that there are hundreds of years of known supply, and by then we'll have some other technologies to handle energy needs. See my recent thread on the book "Fossil Future" by Alex Epstein. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 7:12:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Then it has much in common with the accepted biological theory - that doesn't really involve dinosaurs either. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The theory in a nutshell: oil comes from a deep geological process that doesn't involve dead dinosaurs. Then it has much in common with the accepted biological theory - that doesn't really involve dinosaurs either.  I almost typed "biological sources" instead of "dinosaurs," just so I wouldn't get aktually'd. I thought, "nahh, people in GD aren't that pedantic - they'll realize it's a bit tongue-in-cheek." I was wrong. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 7:54:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Only where the plates are old enough to have sufficient organic material deposited, and pretty rare at plate margins overall It is unheard of at ocean rifts. If abiogenic oil production were true, there would be tons of seeps at these points - especially where oceanic plates meet as the crust is especially thin at these places. Quote HistoryQuoted: Only where the plates are old enough to have sufficient organic material deposited, and pretty rare at plate margins overall It is unheard of at ocean rifts. If abiogenic oil production were true, there would be tons of seeps at these points - especially where oceanic plates meet as the crust is especially thin at these places. "Oil seeps naturally from cracks in the seafloor into the ocean. Lighter than seawater, the oil floats to the surface. Some 20 to 25 tons of oil are emitted each day. (Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution) "What are Oil Seeps? As much as one half of the oil that enters the coastal environment comes from natural seeps of oil and natural gas." https://www.whoi.edu/know-your-ocean/ocean-topics/how-the-ocean-works/seafloor-below/natural-oil-seeps/ Seriously...I'm not being critical. Do you have financial interest in EV's? |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 8:01:44 PM EDT
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No, I don’t believe this theory.
But even if I did, the theory about the elites is wrong. They need consumers to maintain and grow their wealth. The more consumers the better. They don’t look to push down further a middle class sod in America while flying to their private islands in their private jets. Rather they look at how to extract more money from him. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 8:09:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: oil and natural gas is 100% dinosaur no question. anyone who says otherwise is stupid. The science is settled. If methane has to come from biological processes, explain where Titan gets methane rain and lakes. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 8:09:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No, I don’t believe this theory. But even if I did, the theory about the elites is wrong. They need consumers to maintain and grow their wealth. The more consumers the better. They don’t look to push down further a middle class sod in America while flying to their private islands in their private jets. Rather they look at how to extract more money from him. I think ('m not wedded to this idea) you are not correct. Forget about the petro theory for a moment. I believe you give the elites WAY too much credibility. In every societal collapse, stupidity is a key element. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 8:14:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "Oil seeps naturally from cracks in the seafloor into the ocean. Lighter than seawater, the oil floats to the surface. Some 20 to 25 tons of oil are emitted each day. (Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution) "What are Oil Seeps? As much as one half of the oil that enters the coastal environment comes from natural seeps of oil and natural gas." https://www.whoi.edu/know-your-ocean/ocean-topics/how-the-ocean-works/seafloor-below/natural-oil-seeps/ Seriously...I'm not being critical. Do you have financial interest in EV's? Tons in not the literal sense of a unit of measure, I meant it as saying they would be very common if oil was primarily formed as a mantle process. But you just proved my point. 25 tons is next to nothing in the scale of oil deposits, that's equivalent to 183 barrels. Total proven and suspected oil reserves is around 4.5 trillion barrels. The real number is certainly higher than that. And the quote you mentioned is saying 'enters the coastal environment'. So using your own quotation, they are small in scale and limited to areas where there would be continental crust. If mantle formation through abiogenic process were real, you would have hundreds or thousands of times that volume seeping all along plate boundaries. It would be most common at the intersection of oceanic plates as you have both a gap/seam and also the crust itself is much thinner. I have no interest in EVs, nor do I think oil is a scarce resource. There is an abundance of it untapped that is either unfound or simply not touched due to economics of recovery. I simply believe the theory you are supporting is incorrect. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 8:15:46 PM EDT
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Does this mean Sinclair has to change their logo?
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Posted: 9/22/2022 8:18:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If methane has to come from biological processes, explain where Titan gets methane rain and lakes. Google is your friend on this one. Also, methane is a very simple hydrocarbon, while crude oil hydrocarbons are typically much more complex long chain hydrocarbons. That's why they have to be refined and recombined into useful things. tl;dr Methane does not have to be biotic in origin. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methane "The two main routes for geological methane generation are (i) organic (thermally generated, or thermogenic) and (ii) inorganic (abiotic).[11] Thermogenic methane occurs due to the breakup of organic matter at elevated temperatures and pressures in deep sedimentary strata. Most methane in sedimentary basins is thermogenic; therefore, thermogenic methane is the most important source of natural gas. Thermogenic methane components are typically considered to be relic (from an earlier time). Generally, formation of thermogenic methane (at depth) can occur through organic matter breakup, or organic synthesis. Both ways can involve microorganisms (methanogenesis), but may also occur inorganically. " |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 8:22:15 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If methane has to come from biological processes, explain where Titan gets methane rain and lakes. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: oil and natural gas is 100% dinosaur no question. anyone who says otherwise is stupid. The science is settled. If methane has to come from biological processes, explain where Titan gets methane rain and lakes. Nobody is talking about Methane. The subject is crude oil. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 8:27:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Google is your friend on this one. Also, methane is a very simple hydrocarbon, while crude oil hydrocarbons are typically much more complex long chain hydrocarbons. That's why they have to be refined and recombined into useful things. tl;dr Methane does not have to be biotic in origin. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methane "The two main routes for geological methane generation are (i) organic (thermally generated, or thermogenic) and (ii) inorganic (abiotic).[11] Thermogenic methane occurs due to the breakup of organic matter at elevated temperatures and pressures in deep sedimentary strata. Most methane in sedimentary basins is thermogenic; therefore, thermogenic methane is the most important source of natural gas. Thermogenic methane components are typically considered to be relic (from an earlier time). Generally, formation of thermogenic methane (at depth) can occur through organic matter breakup, or organic synthesis. Both ways can involve microorganisms (methanogenesis), but may also occur inorganically. " Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If methane has to come from biological processes, explain where Titan gets methane rain and lakes. Google is your friend on this one. Also, methane is a very simple hydrocarbon, while crude oil hydrocarbons are typically much more complex long chain hydrocarbons. That's why they have to be refined and recombined into useful things. tl;dr Methane does not have to be biotic in origin. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methane "The two main routes for geological methane generation are (i) organic (thermally generated, or thermogenic) and (ii) inorganic (abiotic).[11] Thermogenic methane occurs due to the breakup of organic matter at elevated temperatures and pressures in deep sedimentary strata. Most methane in sedimentary basins is thermogenic; therefore, thermogenic methane is the most important source of natural gas. Thermogenic methane components are typically considered to be relic (from an earlier time). Generally, formation of thermogenic methane (at depth) can occur through organic matter breakup, or organic synthesis. Both ways can involve microorganisms (methanogenesis), but may also occur inorganically. " And of course methane can transform to longer chain hydrocarbons, right? |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 8:41:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Tons in not the literal sense of a unit of measure, I meant it as saying they would be very common if oil was primarily formed as a mantle process. But you just proved my point. 25 tons is next to nothing in the scale of oil deposits, that's equivalent to 183 barrels. Total proven and suspected oil reserves is around 4.5 trillion barrels. The real number is certainly higher than that. And the quote you mentioned is saying 'enters the coastal environment'. So using your own quotation, they are small in scale and limited to areas where there would be continental crust. If mantle formation through abiogenic process were real, you would have hundreds or thousands of times that volume seeping all along plate boundaries. It would be most common at the intersection of oceanic plates as you have both a gap/seam and also the crust itself is much thinner. I have no interest in EVs, nor do I think oil is a scarce resource. There is an abundance of it untapped that is either unfound or simply not touched due to economics of recovery. I simply believe the theory you are supporting is incorrect. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: "Oil seeps naturally from cracks in the seafloor into the ocean. Lighter than seawater, the oil floats to the surface. Some 20 to 25 tons of oil are emitted each day. (Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution) "What are Oil Seeps? As much as one half of the oil that enters the coastal environment comes from natural seeps of oil and natural gas." https://www.whoi.edu/know-your-ocean/ocean-topics/how-the-ocean-works/seafloor-below/natural-oil-seeps/ Seriously...I'm not being critical. Do you have financial interest in EV's? Tons in not the literal sense of a unit of measure, I meant it as saying they would be very common if oil was primarily formed as a mantle process. But you just proved my point. 25 tons is next to nothing in the scale of oil deposits, that's equivalent to 183 barrels. Total proven and suspected oil reserves is around 4.5 trillion barrels. The real number is certainly higher than that. And the quote you mentioned is saying 'enters the coastal environment'. So using your own quotation, they are small in scale and limited to areas where there would be continental crust. If mantle formation through abiogenic process were real, you would have hundreds or thousands of times that volume seeping all along plate boundaries. It would be most common at the intersection of oceanic plates as you have both a gap/seam and also the crust itself is much thinner. I have no interest in EVs, nor do I think oil is a scarce resource. There is an abundance of it untapped that is either unfound or simply not touched due to economics of recovery. I simply believe the theory you are supporting is incorrect. Just give up. OK? "The Santa Barbara seeps, for example emit 5,280 to 6,600 gallons (nearly 20 to 25 tons) of oil per day"........................................... JUST. ONE. SEEP. THIS IS JUST ONE OIL SEEP, FOLKS. And no. You wouldn't NECESSARILY have whatever number comes to your mind as to seeps. You'd have whatever number was requisite by the natural conditions present which we have seen now exceeds what you think. And is an unknown number, quite probably exceeding the number we know today. It's OK to do one's own investigation, folks. Have at it. It's quite fascinating. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 8:56:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just give up. OK? "The Santa Barbara seeps, for example emit 5,280 to 6,600 gallons (nearly 20 to 25 tons) of oil per day"........................................... JUST. ONE. SEEP. THIS IS JUST ONE OIL SEEP, FOLKS. And no. You wouldn't NECESSARILY have whatever number comes to your mind as to seeps. You'd have whatever number was requisite by the natural conditions present which we have seen now exceeds what you think. And is an unknown number, quite probably exceeding the number we know today. It's OK to do one's own investigation, folks. Have at it. It's quite fascinating. Still peanuts, and still at a continental plate margin. Everything I said is both valid and supported by the very evidence you are presenting. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 8:59:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Still peanuts, and still at a continental plate margin. Everything I said is both valid and supported by the very evidence you are presenting. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Just give up. OK? "The Santa Barbara seeps, for example emit 5,280 to 6,600 gallons (nearly 20 to 25 tons) of oil per day"........................................... JUST. ONE. SEEP. THIS IS JUST ONE OIL SEEP, FOLKS. And no. You wouldn't NECESSARILY have whatever number comes to your mind as to seeps. You'd have whatever number was requisite by the natural conditions present which we have seen now exceeds what you think. And is an unknown number, quite probably exceeding the number we know today. It's OK to do one's own investigation, folks. Have at it. It's quite fascinating. Still peanuts, and still at a continental plate margin. Everything I said is both valid and supported by the very evidence you are presenting.  OK. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 9:09:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And of course methane can transform to longer chain hydrocarbons, right? Yeah, there's even a patent on the process: https://patents.justia.com/patent/5817904 
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Posted: 9/22/2022 9:15:23 PM EDT
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I'm just waiting for the day that we finally get to Mars and start drilling and find oil there.
That's going to blow a lot of people's minds in a lot of different areas of human existence.
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Posted: 9/22/2022 9:21:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 40+ years in the oil business. Don't buy the abiotic thing. That being said, there is still a LOT of oil waiting to be used. People ask me, "how many years of oil do we have?". The correct answer is to ask, "at what price". We have been pretty good at producing more oil with improved technology (fracking, horizontal drilling, seismic surveying, etc.). No EV for me! I wonder how many decades it would take for the price of oil to reach the inflation adjusted price of today's EVs? We really shouldn't be doing EVs until it makes economic sense. Right now it doesn't. Maybe in 100 years it will. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 9:25:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder how many decades it would take for the price of oil to reach the inflation adjusted price of today's EVs? We really shouldn't be doing EVs until it makes economic sense. Right now it doesn't. Maybe in 100 years it will. If it made economic sense, they wouldn't have to offer massive tax incentives to buy them. Tesla sold its first car about 14 years ago. How long do they need the taxpayer-funded training wheels? Follow the money trail. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 9:26:54 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If it made economic sense, they wouldn't have to offer massive tax incentives to buy them. Tesla sold its first car about 14 years ago. How long do they need the taxpayer-funded training wheels? Follow the money trail. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I wonder how many decades it would take for the price of oil to reach the inflation adjusted price of today's EVs? We really shouldn't be doing EVs until it makes economic sense. Right now it doesn't. Maybe in 100 years it will. If it made economic sense, they wouldn't have to offer massive tax incentives to buy them. Tesla sold its first car about 14 years ago. How long do they need the taxpayer-funded training wheels? Follow the money trail. +1 See OP. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 9:27:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The fossilized shells of Diatoms are mined locally here, Diatomaceous Earth. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Correct. Diatoms. The fossilized shells of Diatoms are mined locally here, Diatomaceous Earth. So why do we find diatomaceous earth and chalk deposits, if these microbes turn into petroleum? Why didn't these deposits become petroleum too? |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 9:27:41 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Might help if you share details of a theory no one know about..  Exactly! Slow down with the details there Op. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 9:31:24 PM EDT
[#41]
If there’s an abiotic process, I don’t think it’s been proven.
Want to see biotic process in action? Go to a peat bog. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 9:31:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So why do we find diatomaceous earth and chalk deposits, if these microbes turn into petroleum? Why didn't these deposits become petroleum too? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Correct. Diatoms. The fossilized shells of Diatoms are mined locally here, Diatomaceous Earth. So why do we find diatomaceous earth and chalk deposits, if these microbes turn into petroleum? Why didn't these deposits become petroleum too? Do a search on Diatoms. They are an organism with a silica shell/casing. The shell can last for millions of years. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 9:34:36 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Exactly! Slow down with the details there Op. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Might help if you share details of a theory no one know about.. Exactly! Slow down with the details there Op. Look up Thomas Gold. He plagiarized the theory from some Russians that came up with this “idea” in the 50’s. There is no proof, or evidence, to prove the theory. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 9:35:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Exactly! Slow down with the details there Op. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Might help if you share details of a theory no one know about.. Exactly! Slow down with the details there Op. No hard feelings but the OP is, after all: "Who here subscribes to the abiotic theory of petroleum origin?" Meaning I was curious who knew about it and subscribed to it. Your question is legit tho. But basically, in really rough terms, it is that crude petroleum is generated within the earth's crust geologically, NOT by dead plants or animals. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 9:35:22 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No, I don't believe this theory. But even if I did, the theory about the elites is wrong. They need consumers to maintain and grow their wealth. The more consumers the better. They don't look to push down further a middle class sod in America while flying to their private islands in their private jets. Rather they look at how to extract more money from him. They don't care about money. They deal in power. It isn't enough for them to have a whole lot more money than you, because there are some things they simply can't pay people to do. For those things, they need power, so that they can force the people who can't be bought. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 9:35:38 PM EDT
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The abiotic oil nonsense was promoted by creationists to explain the pesky detail of oil fields on a 6000 year old planet. It's as dumb now as it was then, and OP is dumb for even posting it.
There are more naturally occurring nuclear reactors on Earth than abiotic oil fields. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklo_Mine |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 9:41:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If there’s an abiotic process, I don’t think it’s been proven. Want to see biotic process in action? Go to a peat bog. I had some coal samples around here somewhere with fossil leaves in it. Can't find it now. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 9:46:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just give up. OK? "The Santa Barbara seeps, for example emit 5,280 to 6,600 gallons (nearly 20 to 25 tons) of oil per day"........................................... JUST. ONE. SEEP. THIS IS JUST ONE OIL SEEP, FOLKS. And no. You wouldn't NECESSARILY have whatever number comes to your mind as to seeps. You'd have whatever number was requisite by the natural conditions present which we have seen now exceeds what you think. And is an unknown number, quite probably exceeding the number we know today. It's OK to do one's own investigation, folks. Have at it. It's quite fascinating. I believe it. Go to any beach there & walk barefoot. You will come home with black tar on your feet. Removed with mineral oil.  I grew up there. Oil companies were always fighting the granola weenies. The ocean rigs have some of the best fishing though. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 9:49:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I had some coal samples around here somewhere with fossil leaves in it. Can't find it now. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If there’s an abiotic process, I don’t think it’s been proven. Want to see biotic process in action? Go to a peat bog. I had some coal samples around here somewhere with fossil leaves in it. Can't find it now. Well they very well may even if the abiotic hypo is correct. |
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Posted: 9/22/2022 9:58:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The theory in a nutshell: oil comes from a deep geological process that doesn't involve dead dinosaurs. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Might help if you share details of a theory no one know about.. The theory in a nutshell: oil comes from a deep geological process that doesn't involve dead dinosaurs. But does it come from dinosaurs? Or the bacteria that consumed all the dead fauna? |
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