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Posted: 4/14/2021 5:09:03 PM EDT
So I wound up with a web belt, suspenders, canteen, and M16 mag pouch that I can keep.

This will be in addition to three other M16 mag pouches and two medium ruck sacks.

So does anyone still use this or is it now pretty much antique?
Link Posted: 4/14/2021 5:12:49 PM EDT
[#1]
I still have my original setup from when security forces was still using it back in the early 2000s.  It would work fine, but it's kind of a pain to use with armor.  But it still carries stuff fine.  I also still have one of the older "assault vests" that we were issued with the angled magazine pouches on the front.  


Link Posted: 4/14/2021 5:20:03 PM EDT
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Do any surplus places still sell large Alice frame packs? (or a foreign military equivalent worth a darn?).
Link Posted: 4/14/2021 5:20:59 PM EDT
[#3]
But why?
Link Posted: 4/14/2021 5:21:51 PM EDT
[#4]
Me.
Link Posted: 4/14/2021 5:23:04 PM EDT
[#5]
The ammo pouches are awesome, works well with both 5.56mm and 7.62x51mm magazines.
Link Posted: 4/14/2021 5:23:25 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/14/2021 5:24:29 PM EDT
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Alice..LC-1.....LOL, just, no...
Link Posted: 4/14/2021 5:24:48 PM EDT
[#8]
yes
Link Posted: 4/14/2021 5:24:51 PM EDT
[#9]
Bug out gear? I'm going to look like I got lost coming home from the tennis court. Tacticool is going to get you one giant target plastered on your face.
Link Posted: 4/14/2021 5:29:13 PM EDT
[#10]
I still use older gear, mainly because it's affordable while still being serviceable.  Heck, some pouches these days go for almost as much as I paid for my entire setup.

I need to put together a set for ARs, now that I have them, as I only have a set for my FAL.  I also have other gear that's serviceable for lighter or mag-only setups, like an M1956 belt and suspender set with some Greek or Portuguese mag pouches, or a Portuguese 7.62X51mm BAR belt set, or M1956-style Garand pouches for use with my FAL in CA (where charger-loading is a must).  I have some ALICE gear for M-16s, but I prefer other pouches for 5.56, and H-suspenders over the Y-suspenders.

This is my primary LBE set for the FAL.  It's a mix of ALICE, M1967, USMC M1961, M1956, Canadian Pattern 82, and more modern, commercial gear.  I've made a couple of small changes.  Still need to get an IFAK for it, which will cost significantly more than the rest of the LBE put together.



I don' have this set up right now, but this is something I just threw together for a simple rig a while back.  I have a set of M1956 suspenders now that I'd prefer over the ALICE ones for this sort of thing.



Bandolier I improvised using those pouches and an ALICE equipment strap, which I'll throw in the truck with my FAL for road trips.



LBE set I put together for a tactical match here in CA for which I used my FAL, which required me to use chargers.  

Link Posted: 4/14/2021 5:30:07 PM EDT
[#11]
I don't play tactical Timmy. During a situation like that why would I want everyone seeing me in a full load out with molle shit hanging all over the place? I'd prefer to blend in with the masses if I'm to be stuck around them until I can then unass and get to a safer location with less people and or threats around.
Link Posted: 4/14/2021 5:30:38 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/14/2021 5:30:40 PM EDT
[#13]
I prefer for my gear to not scream "I HAVE A GUN" so no. I don't have a tacticool bag.
Link Posted: 4/14/2021 5:34:56 PM EDT
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I still use older gear, mainly because it's affordable while still being serviceable.  Heck, some pouches these days go for almost as much as I paid for my entire setup.

I need to put together a set for ARs, now that I have them, as I only have a set for my FAL.  I also have other gear that's serviceable for lighter or mag-only setups, like an M1956 belt and suspender set with some Greek or Portuguese mag pouches, or a Portuguese 7.62X51mm BAR belt set, or M1956-style Garand pouches for use with my FAL in CA (where charger-loading is a must).  I have some ALICE gear for M-16s, but I prefer other pouches for 5.56, and H-suspenders over the Y-suspenders.

This is my primary LBE set for the FAL.  It's a mix of ALICE, M1967, USMC M1961, M1956, Canadian Pattern 82, and more modern, commercial gear.  I've made a couple of small changes.  Still need to get an IFAK for it, which will cost significantly more than the rest of the LBE put together.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47975906582_d134a65ee8_b.jpg

I don' have this set up right now, but this is something I just threw together for a simple rig a while back.  I have a set of M1956 suspenders now that I'd prefer over the ALICE ones for this sort of thing.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48100977933_64ccd785b1_b.jpg

Bandolier I improvised using those pouches and an ALICE equipment strap, which I'll throw in the truck with my FAL for road trips.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48104337208_6cc84fa61a_b.jpg

LBE set I put together for a tactical match here in CA for which I used my FAL, which required me to use chargers.  

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48805926012_afaee465d8_b.jpg
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I wish I had a stripper clip dust cover for my FAL
Link Posted: 4/14/2021 5:35:40 PM EDT
[#15]
I use ALICE for deer hunting and my wife's BOB bag is a large ALICE pack.
Link Posted: 4/14/2021 5:36:25 PM EDT
[#16]
My ALICE gear was issued to me, modified by me (at the direction of my squad leader) and is still in my possession as I had to buy  new shit to turn in when I ETS'd.  

Still works just fine too.  Only wish my RO soled Panama jungle boots were still in wearable condition but i wore those out long ago.
Link Posted: 4/14/2021 5:38:43 PM EDT
[#17]
I have a large Alice pack and LBE with mag pouches.  It all worked well for me 30 plus years ago so I figure if I needed to use it, it will work again.
My first choice would be to blend in though.
Link Posted: 4/14/2021 5:46:21 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/14/2021 5:48:12 PM EDT
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Leather holster too.
Link Posted: 4/14/2021 5:51:50 PM EDT
[#20]
Minty medium ALICE with upgraded straps, but I'm only a hack.

$40 well spent!

Link Posted: 4/14/2021 6:35:24 PM EDT
[#21]
ALICE can still be viable for a woodland/jungle dismounted environment especially when it is hot and humid and you are not likely to be pressing an attack where body armor would be a bigger thing. So in other words if SHTF and you are going on a foot patrol (not purposely to contact) or a stealthy recce where speed and stealth are more important than rolling in hard and kicking doors or working in an urban environment.



Link Posted: 4/14/2021 6:38:19 PM EDT
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Yes. And they will cost you.
Link Posted: 4/14/2021 6:40:42 PM EDT
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Look there is some idiot coming home from the country club. I bet he has a nice stuff and a nice home. After we shank him get his wallet and let go to his house.
Link Posted: 4/14/2021 6:45:49 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/14/2021 6:50:35 PM EDT
[#25]
Me. Tried armor, chest rigs, tac vests, range belts, and didn’t like any of them. Used a set of M1956 gear for ~6 months because I collected before getting into guns/preparedness.

Started using LC-2 about 2 years ago and until recently it was still a work in progress. After a 3-day course off-grid in NC, I think I have it pretty well dialed in.
2 canteens, 4 ammo pouches, buttpack, compass pouch, bayonet, knife on shoulder strap. Carry my pistol in a tanker holster and it’s GTG.
Link Posted: 4/14/2021 7:15:41 PM EDT
[#26]
I still have a early 80s ALICE gear set up, doubt it fits after all this time.

But damn I seldom actually pulled guard duty.
Link Posted: 4/14/2021 7:40:26 PM EDT
[#27]
BBB to go with your 20" rifles

Beamy Battle Belt
Link Posted: 4/14/2021 7:49:15 PM EDT
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So I wound up with a web belt, suspenders, canteen, and M16 mag pouch that I can keep.

This will be in addition to three other M16 mag pouches and two medium ruck sacks.

So does anyone still use this or is it now pretty much antique?  
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Another antique Alice gear user here.  I have owned it for 4 decades.  It didn't cost me anything.  It works.  Why get something newer and costly?
Link Posted: 4/14/2021 8:06:58 PM EDT
[#29]
Seems to be OK if you need cheap and fairly light LBE. It's a pain to incorporate or feel comfortable wearing with vests/armor so if you want to use armor just jump on the molle train.

For those thinking of a SHTF scenario, you are still going to stick out wearing alice.
Link Posted: 4/14/2021 8:09:23 PM EDT
[#30]
M1910 gear user here. When I feel like being a tad more modern, I use my M1956 gear.

Link Posted: 4/14/2021 8:18:02 PM EDT
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My ALICE gear was issued to me, modified by me (at the direction of my squad leader) and is still in my possession as I had to buy  new shit to turn in when I ETS'd.  

Still works just fine too.  Only wish my RO soled Panama jungle boots were still in wearable condition but i wore those out long ago.
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The old boots are comfy boots
Still have this pair, almost new...



I still have a box or two of Alice stuff packed away, but in my current rotation, I only use a tac tailor modified Alice large.
I’ve tried others, killed them and keep going back to it for my be gone for a bit bag. I have different bags for different stuff.

It’s behind the rifle in the back corner and looks like this.



Link Posted: 4/14/2021 8:49:37 PM EDT
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Yes, Maybe, No.
Link Posted: 4/14/2021 9:53:35 PM EDT
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I do.
Link Posted: 4/14/2021 10:06:46 PM EDT
[#34]
I use British PLCE stuff.

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Link Posted: 4/14/2021 10:08:18 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/14/2021 10:10:13 PM EDT
[#36]
I threw away a bunch of that type of stuff recently, it was liberating.
Link Posted: 4/14/2021 10:21:02 PM EDT
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Honestly this stuff just seems "right" given my taste in ARs......now if only I'd kept more of my old BDUs

Though I will say that OCPs are the better uniform
Link Posted: 4/14/2021 10:26:07 PM EDT
[#38]
Man, I hope I don’t get whacked by some dude with 40+ year old gear after the SHTF. That would be embarrassing.
Link Posted: 4/14/2021 10:30:30 PM EDT
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boogaloobill.meme "just as good"
*Except it's Beamy saying "what 9mm should I get next?"
Link Posted: 4/14/2021 10:33:43 PM EDT
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I still use Woodland Camo BDU's as well.  Fuck all this new Tacticool shit, the 80's gear is where it's at.
Link Posted: 4/14/2021 10:34:11 PM EDT
[#41]
Yep, and it packs out deer and elk better than anything else I've seen.
Link Posted: 4/14/2021 10:36:30 PM EDT
[#42]
It’s what I’m accustomed to, so yeah.

With all my ailments, I’d probably die in the first skirmish.
Link Posted: 4/14/2021 10:38:04 PM EDT
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Bug out to where? this country is fucked... Your not gonna just hike your way into canada or me-he-co dressed up like some tactical timmy.. Fuck it sell that shit and by ammo, concrete and bitcoin... bug out gear was cool back when obama was pres, and we had a chance... Its over bud... You need bunkers, ammo, food, and something other than the US dollar...
Link Posted: 4/14/2021 10:38:45 PM EDT
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Hahaha you feel that unmistakable burn of a green tip punching through your skin, turn around as everything fades to black, and the last thing you see is a boomer with an A1 clone in Alice gear who whispers, "iron sights are just as good..."
Link Posted: 4/14/2021 10:50:34 PM EDT
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boogaloobill.meme "just as good"
*Except it's Beamy saying "what 9mm should I get next?"
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boogaloobill.meme "just as good"
*Except it's Beamy saying "what 9mm should I get next?"


With this stuff I'd probably just go with my 92FS or a G17
Link Posted: 4/15/2021 3:27:07 AM EDT
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Hahaha you feel that unmistakable burn of a green tip punching through your skin, turn around as everything fades to black, and the last thing you see is a boomer with an A1 clone in Alice gear who whispers, "iron sights are just as good..."
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Man, I hope I don’t get whacked by some dude with 40+ year old gear after the SHTF. That would be embarrassing.


Hahaha you feel that unmistakable burn of a green tip punching through your skin, turn around as everything fades to black, and the last thing you see is a boomer with an A1 clone in Alice gear who whispers, "iron sights are just as good..."


Even worse, you can't even croak out, "how did they stabilize green-tip in a 1:12 barrel?" as the light disappears fully.
Link Posted: 4/15/2021 3:36:21 AM EDT
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Alice gear is just a old school battle belt with suspenders, change my mind!
Link Posted: 4/15/2021 3:41:07 AM EDT
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I've got a hellcat variable. Large ALICE and frame with MOLLE straps and accessories.
Link Posted: 4/15/2021 3:41:39 AM EDT
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You're basically correct.
Link Posted: 4/15/2021 3:44:04 AM EDT
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I have a bunch of sets to go with spare ARs. No point in having a fighting rifle if you don't have the gear to tote mags, bayonet, water, medical, etc with it. Plus, I am a bit odd.
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