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Posted: 1/16/2021 9:49:11 PM EDT
I live in a suburb in Colorado, outside of Denver. It has been a nice, small suburban paradise for the past 25 years or so. About 5 years ago, a large influx of out of staters, mostly from California, decided to move here for whatever reason. The entire culture in this formerly small town has turned sour, crime has shot up, house prices have almost doubled, the politics have gone rather extreme, etc. I've never experienced a shift like this before, but realized it may be time to just move. I was hoping it was a temporary wave, but they keep coming and the town feels gone now that it keeps growing and growing. I'm probably venting more than seeking advice, though I'd like to find the next suburbia that will hopefully stay like that for a while. Not sure if I should move up north more where it's a bit more rural, for now or look somewhere in the south where it seems like a culture that I would enjoy more.
Anyone else have a similar experience in your life? Curious what a good long term strategy would be. |
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Move to California and bring your poisonous conservative views with you and turn the state red.
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Long term strategy? I doubt there is one, once the urban sprawl starts it doesn’t stop.
I grew up in Fairfax County in northern Virginia in the 80s and 90s. My grandparents bought an old farm in the 50s when grandad went to work for the NTSB. I grew up surrounded by old farms and a prison. Now it’s all gone, bulldozed under for cookie cutter tract housing and McMansions. Like you said the crime went up and the politics changed to the left, drastically. Guess that’s life but it still sucks. As the saying goes if you’re not growing you’re dying. |
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Each town near Metro Atlanta has experienced this same thing and fallen like a domino. There is no turning the tide, in your lifetime. Your choice is deal with it or move. Then expect to move again. California and New York produce an endless supply of liberal bugmen that spread across the country and destroy heritage American hometowns wherever they find them.
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Cash out on the property value spike and buy acreage elsewhere.
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Yeah, my hometown. About 40 years ago a lot of out of staters started moving here, a lot from Colorado, Texas, Washington, Oregon. It really fucked things up. I hear they are starting to move back to their home states so I'm happy about that.
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Unlikely here, too many cows.
We have gotten a lot of NYC transplants though. |
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Colorado has had this little chip on their shoulder since the 70's, probably even earlier. I remember when the "Native" bumper stickers were popular as if they were some kind of aristocracy. As far as I could tell, those "Natives" were always trashy folks. The point is, most large cities these days have a significant influx of humans. If you want to blame something, blame the mountains; if you didn't have those, Denver would be one of the top armpits of the USA
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Yes. Outer edge of the burbs. Exploded in the last 10 years. County was solid republican since always, went all democrat in the last 2 elections. PA is fucked.
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That’s happing in many of the nice conservative small cities large towns.
Out of towners are a virus that consume and multiply. Agent Smith had the right idea. |
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NY and NJ came to our mountains in PA.
With it came the crowds, crime, murders, trash, drugs, rape,etc., we never had. They ruined a beautiful place. Crime and census data does not lie. In 15 years they destroyed it. I moved 1000 miles away. I wonder if it was far enough. To this day, if I hear that accent, I won't even talk to that person. Anyone I have come across from that far away, which thankfully is rare here is automatically someone so low to me, that in an area of 10 million criminal lowlifes, I know even they wore out their welcome among the lowest. Thats quite an achievement. |
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Urban sprawl.
Hope it never gets to us. Closest hospital and Walmart over 20 miles away. And I have relatives trying to convince us to sell out and move to the city. |
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Been happening to north west arkansas for a couple of decades now, but has really ramped up in the last few years.
The walton's are hell bent on turning this place into a shit hole. |
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Sounds like Elizabeth. City people ruined it in 5-7 years. Making plans to leave in 2 1/2 years if the country is still here.
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It's going to get even worse thanks to Covid. Everyone working at home now have the option of moving to Rural America and ruining the area.
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Quoted: I live in a suburb in Colorado, outside of Denver. It has been a nice, small suburban paradise for the past 25 years or so. About 5 years ago, a large influx of out of staters, mostly from California, decided to move here for whatever reason. The entire culture in this formerly small town has turned sour, crime has shot up, house prices have almost doubled, the politics have gone rather extreme, etc. I've never experienced a shift like this before, but realized it may be time to just move. I was hoping it was a temporary wave, but they keep coming and the town feels gone now that it keeps growing and growing. I'm probably venting more than seeking advice, though I'd like to find the next suburbia that will hopefully stay like that for a while. Not sure if I should move up north more where it's a bit more rural, for now or look somewhere in the south where it seems like a culture that I would enjoy more. Anyone else have a similar experience in your life? Curious what a good long term strategy would be. View Quote What you got ain't nothing new. This country's hard on people. You can't stop what's coming. It ain't all waiting on you. That's vanity. |
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Quoted: Urban sprawl. Hope it never gets to us. Closest hospital and Walmart over 20 miles away. And I have relatives trying to convince us to sell out and move to the city. View Quote I always thought urban sprawl was a good thing. Liberals love coming up with dirty words to explain the narrative. Liberals hate urban sprawl because it's the city's high quality inventory moving out, leaving the low quality inventory to rot. I don't think OP's issue is urban sprawl. |
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North Carolina has experienced the same thing, we are all full.
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Yes OP, Jackson Wyoming, New Smyna Beach Florida, the Keys, Wolf Creek Utah, Sedona Arizona, Steamboat Colorado, and Oregon coastline. I believe I hate Californians as much as you do. Yeah there are some cool, good, reasonable, not-asshole Californians, but not many (pretty much only the members of this site).
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Quoted: I live in a suburb in Colorado, outside of Denver. It has been a nice, small suburban paradise for the past 25 years or so. About 5 years ago, a large influx of out of staters, mostly from California, decided to move here for whatever reason. The entire culture in this formerly small town has turned sour, crime has shot up, house prices have almost doubled, the politics have gone rather extreme, etc. I've never experienced a shift like this before, but realized it may be time to just move. I was hoping it was a temporary wave, but they keep coming and the town feels gone now that it keeps growing and growing. I'm probably venting more than seeking advice, though I'd like to find the next suburbia that will hopefully stay like that for a while. Not sure if I should move up north more where it's a bit more rural, for now or look somewhere in the south where it seems like a culture that I would enjoy more. Anyone else have a similar experience in your life? Curious what a good long term strategy would be. View Quote |
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Quoted: Long term strategy? I doubt there is one, once the urban sprawl starts it doesn’t stop. I grew up in Fairfax County in northern Virginia in the 80s and 90s. My grandparents bought an old farm in the 50s when grandad went to work for the NTSB. I grew up surrounded by old farms and a prison. Now it’s all gone, bulldozed under for cookie cutter tract housing and McMansions. Like you said the crime went up and the politics changed to the left, drastically. Guess that’s life but it still sucks. As the saying goes if you’re not growing you’re dying. View Quote I'm with you. My dad, in the 70s, lived in Leesburg, was nothing but farms and rural living. Went back recently and giant suburb. Populated by Peter Strock types and Indians. But hey, more tax revenue for the county, right! |
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Ive watched Utah become an ever growing haven of carpet baggers slowly ruining it. Im only 29 but when I was a kid to now salt lake especially has been turned blue. Forget the Mormons they just cuck on everything to appease liberals for pr. Utah is still pretty solidly red but I think in ten years it wont be.
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Quoted: Yes. Outer edge of the burbs. Exploded in the last 10 years. County was solid republican since always, went all democrat in the last 2 elections. PA is fucked. View Quote I moved to South Central PA from another Democrat run state years ago when my hometown was overrun by urban, Section 8 trash, drugs, gangs and crime. Still 80% Trump voters here. But I'm afraid of what's coming. I built a nice place here that I had hoped to spend the rest of my life on. |
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Quoted: Each town near Metro Atlanta has experienced this same thing and fallen like a domino. There is no turning the tide, in your lifetime. Your choice is deal with it or move. Then expect to move again. California and New York produce an endless supply of liberal bugmen that spread across the country and destroy heritage American hometowns wherever they find them. View Quote |
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