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Posted: 1/25/2022 8:15:11 AM EDT
[#1]
Tell Russia to 'cut it out!'
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Posted: 1/25/2022 8:26:38 AM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Put 50k troops in The Ukraine The Ukraine is weak |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 8:52:20 AM EDT
[#3]
THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE RESPONSE.
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Posted: 1/25/2022 8:54:32 AM EDT
[#4]
Invade Cuba and then Venezuela
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Posted: 1/25/2022 8:56:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Gather former Eastern Euro anti-Russia nations, then invade Russia. Putin's head on spike over Kremlin. Cull majority of Russian males to avoid insurgencies. Build many ski resorts. Hike gas price to Germany for being pussies. Export hot Russian blondes to GD basement dwellers.   Attached File |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 8:59:00 AM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We should do nothing. This. Not our fight. |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 9:13:43 AM EDT
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In my mind: in rapid succession stomp on China’s toes, kick Putin in the balls, and invade Canada (its been a long time coming and we need to liberate our friends in the north).
My uneducated opinion: Ukraine is too divided and corrupt for us to effectively back them. They are not NATO. Let the Russian’s have it we don’t need it. Let Europe fight Russia if they don’t want to be solely reliant on the for natural gas / oil. Enforce NATO requirements; kick Germany / nations out if they are not holding up their end of the bargain. Same thing can happen to them that happens to Ukraine. Increase domestic production of oil, natural gas, chips, high end electronics, and medical products. Develop independence from other nations and sell them our shit not vice versa. Get Americans working. Print gigantic flags with the middle finger, hoist it full mast, and sail the South China Sea all day everyday. |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 9:15:05 AM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't see a clear win here. The moment the US commits to war in Ukraine, I see China rolling into Taiwan. If we commit in Taiwan, Russia is probably steam-rolling in Ukraine. If we commit to both, I think we lose a lot of Americans and both countries fall to Russia and China. If we do nothing, both countries fall to bad people. Not that either are perfect on their own. Losing Taiwan means we're completely dependant on China for microchips, unless that has changed. Losing Ukraine means Russia has more access to the oil pipeline there (name escapes me) and the EU is at Russia's mercy for a considerable percentage of their oil. Here's an idea: Let the EU fight for & defend their own pipeline... |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 9:17:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not our monkey, not our circus. But large numbers of DC pols are making money in Ukraine... And there it is... ...the bidens take of aid money is nothing compared to the rest of the fed (and beyond) that acquires a few bucks from Ukrainian laundry |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 9:22:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sell weapons to Europe to protect themselves from Russia Cunty bitchy little girls. If they'd had followed through on Juncker's desire for a European army, beholden to the EU, they'd have a standing Lesbian/ Transgender army at the ready right this minute. And the First Pronoun war would go on to its logical end. Historical inevitability. A tale of woe and sorrow for the traditionalists. Veritable slaughter. Pent up anger and avenging for improper pronoun use. Charging fearlessly across the field of battle, smiting cis-gendered hateful white slav patriarchists. Because racism and sexism shaming ain't got no end. A new beginning! |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 9:24:25 AM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What would happen if we had a poll that asked would you rather have Putin as President or Biden? Putin won that pole IIRC... |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 9:51:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Zelensky is Ukraine’s Trump. I was in Ukraine during the run-up to his election, the establishment were throwing everything they could at him. The accusation that he’s a puppet of Vladimir Putin certainly hasn’t held up well. Zelensky, like Trump, is the product of people getting tired being fucked over by the same people again and again for decades and deciding “fuck it, let’s roll the dice with a non-politician, it couldn’t be any worse”. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Yes, please. Take more of my money away in taxes to give to the Obama installed regime. Fuck right off with that shit. Zelensky wasn't installed by Obama. Zelensky is Ukraine’s Trump. I was in Ukraine during the run-up to his election, the establishment were throwing everything they could at him. The accusation that he’s a puppet of Vladimir Putin certainly hasn’t held up well. Zelensky, like Trump, is the product of people getting tired being fucked over by the same people again and again for decades and deciding “fuck it, let’s roll the dice with a non-politician, it couldn’t be any worse”. Zelensky is what now? You’re comparing a multi billionaire, with decades of experience in business to a regionally famous actor. Them both being outsiders is where similarities end. Zelensky was truly given a shit sandwich. He inherited a corrupt, depopulated, deeply divided country, with weak economy, weaker international partnerships and a gutted military. The idiocy of Ukrainian internal and external politics even make the US look forward thinking. I actually like the guy and what he stands for, but he cannot undo 30 years of post Soviet damage, plus 70 years of Soviet damage in a couple of years. The best he can hope for, is to keep most of his country, while avoiding a civil war or a coup from within. My guess, is when this will all be over, he’ll be a refugee in Israel. |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 10:38:21 AM EDT
[#13]
EU countries have to be the first responders. PERIOD.
If Russia attacks a NATO country…we respond. I don’t even think we should be arming Ukraine, it needs to be the EU. The EU has an agreement with Ukraine. A formal agreement of sorts. We do not. |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 10:42:52 AM EDT
[#14]
Unless Ukraine wants to join nato or eu, we and Europe do nothing. If they do then while negotiating the join, nato troops are stationed there. Unless they commit to being an ally or in a defensive alliance we have no reason to put their fire out.
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Posted: 1/25/2022 10:47:38 AM EDT
[#15]
Start rotating F-22's with B61's through Poland and TW.
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Posted: 1/25/2022 10:49:18 AM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I think we should pull all of our shit out of the rest of the world. Fortify the fuck out of our defenses. Build an economy around our own production and resources and mind our own fucking business. With our nuke supply nobody will ever invade or attack us. We just need to be more self sufficient. Maintain a strong navy and nukes. Other than protecting our border and rebuilding our economy, infrastructure, and bringing manufacturing hone the US should stay out of the rest of the world. |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 11:00:17 AM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Troops and aircraft to Poland, Estonia, Lithuania, and Latvia, as a deterrent and insist that NATO members match with troops alongside. Advisors and air defense systems for Ukraine and a shit ton of antitank weapons. This, I would even be ok with our special forces using Ukraine as a play ground too |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 11:07:00 AM EDT
[#18]
I know! Site staff should create a Ukraine conflict subforum!
What do I win?
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Posted: 1/25/2022 11:32:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't see a clear win here. The moment the US commits to war in Ukraine, I see China rolling into Taiwan. If we commit in Taiwan, Russia is probably steam-rolling in Ukraine. If we commit to both, I think we lose a lot of Americans and both countries fall to Russia and China. If we do nothing, both countries fall to bad people. Not that either are perfect on their own. Losing Taiwan means we're completely dependant on China for microchips, unless that has changed. Losing Ukraine means Russia has more access to the oil pipeline there (name escapes me) and the EU is at Russia's mercy for a considerable percentage of their oil. That outsourcing everything to hostile countries is bad, that not building you oen defense is bad. That allowing the US to be the world's police needs to end. |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 11:53:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Putin won that pole IIRC... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What would happen if we had a poll that asked would you rather have Putin as President or Biden? Putin won that pole IIRC... |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 12:19:40 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Granted. But if we let Russia roll through Ukraine, our NATO Allies in Eastern Europe are next. Then what? Lol, they aren’t rolling on Poland or Germany…they’re rolling on Ukraine and any country like Belarus where they already have broad based support. The Poles hate the goddamn Russians. Like I stated before messing around in Ukraine was shitting in their backyard and we knew it. Putin is a known quantity and this was all predictable. |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 1:51:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The only people I see predicting WW3 are here. That said, sometimes GD is prophetic. But sometimes, it’s 4D tardation. TBD, I suppose. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: We fought Russian/Soviet commies for decades without actually getting into a direct shooting war with them. Different times, I suppose. Back then, nobody thought getting into World War III was a good option, even if it was a midterm year.  The only people I see predicting WW3 are here. That said, sometimes GD is prophetic. But sometimes, it’s 4D tardation. TBD, I suppose. Well I’m sure hoping it’s pure tardation
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Posted: 1/25/2022 1:56:56 PM EDT
[#23]
Never let a crisis go to waste, especially one the gov. creates for their own selfish interests. We have very evil people running this country.
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Posted: 1/25/2022 1:58:34 PM EDT
[#24]
Global Thermonuclear Warfare...
... Shall we play? |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 2:04:21 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/25/2022 2:20:09 PM EDT
[#26]
Is NATO going to help the US defend our southern border?
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Posted: 1/25/2022 3:44:05 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't see a clear win here. The moment the US commits to war in Ukraine, I see China rolling into Taiwan. If we commit in Taiwan, Russia is probably steam-rolling in Ukraine. If we commit to both, I think we lose a lot of Americans and both countries fall to Russia and China. If we do nothing, both countries fall to bad people. Not that either are perfect on their own. Losing Taiwan means we're completely dependant on China for microchips, unless that has changed. Losing Ukraine means Russia has more access to the oil pipeline there (name escapes me) and the EU is at Russia's mercy for a considerable percentage of their oil. I see Taiwan as more of a naval / Air Force battle. |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 3:56:47 PM EDT
[#28]
The die is cast
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Posted: 1/25/2022 3:57:34 PM EDT
[#29]
If I were POTUS this is what I'd do:
1. Start pumping oil like crazy from the US and promote the pumping of oil from around the world, the intent is to drive the price of a barrel of crude below $40, which is the point below which putin and russia will have heartburn with "sanctions". 2. Oil at below $40 and flowing freely will provide a nice hedge against inflation, US Taxpayers will appreciate that. Of course I'm not POTUS, and I clearly don't have all the advanced information that the potato has, so there's that... |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 4:00:24 PM EDT
[#30]
Cut off their supply of chocolate and blue jeans.
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Posted: 1/25/2022 4:00:58 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I see Taiwan as more of a naval / Air Force battle. I see it as a massive sea/Air curbstomping of Taiwan, and then then a little secret Taiwanese canned sunshine rising over Beijing and a few other fun PRC spots. I can absolutely see the Taiwanese government going full Samson on their way down. And if THAT happens? Who the fuck knows what will happen next? |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 4:18:44 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If I were POTUS this is what I'd do: 1. Start pumping oil like crazy from the US and promote the pumping of oil from around the world, the intent is to drive the price of a barrel of crude below $40, which is the point below which putin and russia will have heartburn with "sanctions". 2. Oil at below $40 and flowing freely will provide a nice hedge against inflation, US Taxpayers will appreciate that. Of course I'm not POTUS, and I clearly don't have all the advanced information that the potato has, so there's that... Yeah. No way that's happening. Climate change. And envirowakos. |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 4:23:31 PM EDT
[#33]
Don't put anything into Ukraine that we won't mind being owned by Russian, equipment or people.
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Posted: 1/25/2022 7:46:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Unless Ukraine wants to join nato or eu, we and Europe do nothing. If they do then while negotiating the join, nato troops are stationed there. Unless they commit to being an ally or in a defensive alliance we have no reason to put their fire out. They have wanted that for awhile. Dubya, Merkel, and Obummer shot them down. |
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Posted: 1/25/2022 7:51:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They have wanted that for awhile. Dubya, Merkel, and Obummer shot them down. Because their politics are corrupt, why do you think our politicians are able to extort them? |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 8:06:47 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not our monkey, not our circus. But large numbers of DC pols are making money in Ukraine...  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 8:20:30 AM EDT
[#37]
Putin has wanted to do this for years.
Just as China has wanted Taiwan, for years. But they knew it was a bad idea for them to act. What changed? Biden and our withdrawal from Afghanistan. If Russia takes Ukraine, what’s next? The “Domino Theory” seems so antiquated, but it may be relevant here. Taiwan is paying attention. So is Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia, Georgia, etc. They have all experienced phase one Russian subversion activities, and certainly don’t want to get to the later stages where Russia insists on protecting “Ethnic Russians” from the Nazis… Our sanctions should be devastating to the Russian economy. Oligarchs should be hurt by them. The Saudis should increase production and bring the price of a barrel of oil down to $30. |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 8:30:37 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I think we should pull all of our shit out of the rest of the world. Fortify the fuck out of our defenses. Build an economy around our own production and resources and mind our own fucking business. With our nuke supply nobody will ever invade or attack us. We just need to be more self sufficient. 187% |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 8:51:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We hate communists, right? Until it’s time to actually bring some hate to the communists? Russia hasn't been Communist for 30 years. Try to keep up. |
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Posted: 1/26/2022 11:19:05 AM EDT
[#40]
This kind of shit didn't happen when Hunter Biden was on the board of one of Ukraine's natural gas companies.
Bring back Biden (Jr.)! |
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Posted: 1/27/2022 12:39:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We did that once, we got the Pearl Harbor attack in response. The world will never let us sit it out. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Can we just once since 1950 stop being the world's top cop? We did that once, we got the Pearl Harbor attack in response. The world will never let us sit it out. That's an incredibly appropriate comparison, considering we now know Pearl Harbor was an an intentionally induced action intended to get America into a World War. |
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Posted: 1/30/2022 8:16:00 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Russia hasn't been Communist for 30 years. Try to keep up. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: We hate communists, right? Until it’s time to actually bring some hate to the communists? Russia hasn't been Communist for 30 years. Try to keep up.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/30/2022 8:30:10 AM EDT
[#43]
Open all of our pipelines and oil rigs back up. We can defeat all of our enemies by undercutting their oil production. Not a shot fired.
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Posted: 1/30/2022 8:33:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What? We love communist. We can’t get enough of their cheap shit and we sell them our property for cash. Half the country already is communist. The majority of the shit in your house is made by communist. The cloths you are wearing right now were made by the hands of communist. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: We hate communists, right? Until it’s time to actually bring some hate to the communists? What? We love communist. We can’t get enough of their cheap shit and we sell them our property for cash. Half the country already is communist. The majority of the shit in your house is made by communist. The cloths you are wearing right now were made by the hands of communist. You nailed it. We hate commies but damn they make shit cheap. The world is a fucked up place. |
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