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Posted: 10/16/2019 6:00:43 PM EDT
I honestly believe that tempers are high here for a number of reasons. Politics, the changing in user age demographics, the constant assault on the 2nd Amendment, the paranoia of Social Media and how it is being used in Red Flag Laws, the change in Ownership due to a topic that is being kept in Team GD, and a whole bunch of other shit.
I can honestly say that my limited experience as a Mod here really has shown me how hard it is to make everyone happy. It is impossible. TBS and the rest of the Site Staff has really wanted to clean up GD and the website as a whole. But it can't be a heavy handed approach. It is a fine balancing act. The problem is, differing opinions are just that. What some think the problem is of trolling in reality is someone else having a differing opinion. When some here think this is a Pro Trump site gets all pissy when someone else have a criticism of the President they accuse others of being Never Trumpers. The same can be said with the Pro/Anti LE discussions. I'm for legit criticism of cops when they fuck up. Just as I am about the military and government as a whole. But we draw sides and just beat each other to death over stupid shit. The biggest issue is that fact that since people bitch, instead of follow the rules (like if a Mod takes action and the member believes it wasn't warranted, bring in Site Staff for review) they just add fuel to the fire and bitch. Seriously, if you feel a Mod did something you don't agree with. Contact the Mod and discuss it or contact Site Staff. They'll review it and if need be smack the Mod and say "No, bad Mod" if it is a legit fuck up on the Mod. Another issue is that the community shouldn't be and isn't based simply on the most popular members get a pass at shit and for a bit, it kinda happened. And now that the rules are being applied more across the board. Shit is getting warnings for something that originally would have been swept under the rug. But that comes back to people taking shit way to seriously on some stuff. I can also tell you this. It honestly is pretty hard to be permanently banned from here and even then, most are allowed to come back. I was banned for stupid shit and allowed to come back after I apologized and agreed to follow the rules, which honestly I try. I don't want to have issues with other members here. Even the ones I don't always agree with. Because guess what.... I do agree with them on other shit. I firmly believe this is a great place and it still could be in the future. But I think people are taking things way too seriously. (Myself included sometimes, again... emotional investment in certain topics, stress from daily life, etc. None ofnus are immune from it.) Look, I ain't perfect. I sure as shit known that. We all have fucked up here. Arfcom is a great community with a great group of folks. We all have our own personal shit to deal with outside of Arfcom. Kids, jobs, debt, family, health, etc.... sometimes, that shit bleeds over here. The CoC is pretty easy to understand and follow. Additionally, I think we all need to take a deep breath, Members Mods, Staff, etc.... take a deep breath. Arfcom is a hell of a community that has given me some great friends that I've had the pleasure of meeting in person at NRAAM, SHOT, Cola Warrior, the Retro Shoot, and just across daily life. So let's all chill the fuck out. We all fuck up, we all get heated, we all get emotionally invested in shit, etc.... And yes, I'm a Waste of Site Resources and so is this Thread. Edit, to fix a typo and waste even more site resources. |
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I hope all this shakes out. I’ve enjoyed my time here over the years. I will add that the non team member trolls that seem to bait members into coc violations needs a different review and application of justice. I do enjoy some of the call outs and calling a dumbass a dumbass My .02$
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Haven't been to team in probably a decade guess I'll take a peek
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I never would have thought that gender reassignment for cats would be such a divisive topic on the forum
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Were you coerced to start this thread?
I think some mods are more gung-ho than others with regard to enforcement. I think GD needs consistency, which is hard with several people interpreting the rules, and harder the more you add. I really hope you guys talk about how you handle stuff in the mod forum and get feedback from each other. |
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I thought this would be a thread about what gay porn has been posted on the site.
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Were you coerced to start this thread? I think some mods are more gung-ho than others with regard to enforcement. I think GD needs consistency, which is hard with several people interpreting the rules, and harder the more you add. I really hope you guys talk about how you handle stuff in the mod forum and get feedback from each other. View Quote |
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Were you coerced to start this thread? I think some mods are more gung-ho than others with regard to enforcement. I think GD needs consistency, which is hard with several people interpreting the rules, and harder the more you add. I really hope you guys talk about how you handle stuff in the mod forum and get feedback from each other. View Quote The issue with moderating this place is opinion. Mods are volunteers as are Staff. We all have differing opinions but the rule on our side is try to not go heavy handed. I honestly do an informal IM instead of a warning most of the time simply because I don't want to "officially drop paper" on someone. Consistency is hard fo a degree because again... opinions and interpretation is different depending on the who's reading something. Hence why the CoC clearly states that members can request other Mods or Staff to review something if they feel isn't right or just. |
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I firmly believe this is a great place and it still could be in the future. But I think people are taking things way too seriously. (Myself included sometimes, again... emotional investment in certain topics, stress from daily life, etc. None ofnus are immune from it.) View Quote So we come here--the "home of the evil black rifle"--to find other freedom-minded people. It's all we have. Sure, we can have small-scale discussions with friends and family on Whatsapp, but this is on of the only places where there are thousands of us in together. And now, we're starting to see the same heavy-handed moderation here that we get everywhere else. It's disconcerting. Nobody wants ar15.com to turn into Facebook, where you just can't discuss certain points of view. And nobody wants it to turn into TheHighRoad, where you can't talk to anybody. |
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You've got 20 years of culture here, and in a blink it was sold to brownells then caved to feels from Amazon.
Yea, so people be upset. |
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Too much of what we field is a judgement call in the moment for everything to be governed by a hard and fast rule. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Were you coerced to start this thread? I think some mods are more gung-ho than others with regard to enforcement. I think GD needs consistency, which is hard with several people interpreting the rules, and harder the more you add. I really hope you guys talk about how you handle stuff in the mod forum and get feedback from each other. |
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It what are your opinions on foreign governments having mod powers?
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If I ever get banned it’s definitely going to be because I fell off the wagon and posted pictures of THICC women scantily clad in GD
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Also keep in mind, there are agent provocateur's who literal job is to stir the pot and keep people divided and bickering.
There have been several reports by government agencies that Russian and Chinese and Korean infiltrators are on all kinds of internet web boards just to stir the pot. It's some form of cyber war espionage or some shit. When you think about it, it's a pretty secure and clever form of political weaponry to bring down a society from within. |
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"Clean up" GD?....that's part of its charm... View Quote |
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The problem isn't the COC is hard to understand, its the shifting sands that the COC is built on. It really comes down to there are like 10 GD mods or staff, and what someone allows the other person rights a warning for or even hands out a temp lock.
You close one thread, and 10 more open asking why that thread was closed, and then you get 20 different explanations for the staff. Personally I think you should have just put out one response to the question of why the thread was locked, and then said nothing else. People would have forgot about it after a few days. Instead this is the 5th or 6th thread dealing with this, and who knows how many responses in the 35 page thread about mods being heavy handed. |
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Then un-ban the recently banned (pre-site resources stuff) and lets all go from there. I have never been banned and do not expect to be as I know how to mostly mind my manners I guess? Who knows! Anyway, good post JBT.
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This is a very nice resignation letter. View Quote |
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The problem isn't the COC is hard to understand, its the shifting sands that the COC is built on. It really comes down to there are not like 10 GD mods or staff, and what someone allows the other person rights a warning for or even hands out a temp lock. You close on thread, and 10 more open asking why that thread was closed, and then you get 20 different explanations for the staff. Personally I think you should have just put out one response to the question of why the thread was locked, and then said nothing else. People would have forgot about it after a few days. Instead this is the 5th or 6th thread dealing with this, and who knows how many responses in the 35 page thread about mods being heavy handed. View Quote |
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A temporary pin at the top of GD for a day or so with an explanation of why something is done that will likely or is causing a shitstorm would be a solution I would offer. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The problem isn't the COC is hard to understand, its the shifting sands that the COC is built on. It really comes down to there are not like 10 GD mods or staff, and what someone allows the other person rights a warning for or even hands out a temp lock. You close on thread, and 10 more open asking why that thread was closed, and then you get 20 different explanations for the staff. Personally I think you should have just put out one response to the question of why the thread was locked, and then said nothing else. People would have forgot about it after a few days. Instead this is the 5th or 6th thread dealing with this, and who knows how many responses in the 35 page thread about mods being heavy handed. |
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Never apologize mister, it's a sign of weakness. You may proceed with your picnic Mr. Pernell.
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Also keep in mind, there are agent provocateur's who literal job is to stir the pot and keep people divided and bickering. There have been several reports by government agencies that Russian and Chinese and Korean infiltrators are on all kinds of internet web boards just to stir the pot. It's some form of cyber war espionage or some shit. When you think about it, it's a pretty secure and clever form of political weaponry to bring down a society from within. View Quote |
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Have you realized that the .40 is an inferior cartridge and have learned the error of your ways?
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