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Posted: 9/25/2023 9:01:39 AM EST
I posted this in the other “I got covid” thread, but thought I’d make my own post to see if anyone else experienced this.
Backstory- I got the clot shots #1&2 years ago but no boosters. #2 had my left hand numb and tingling off and on for over a year. My MD said under no circumstances am I to get a booster. Currently 60 yo. Never had covid until two weeks ago. Symptoms started just over two weeks ago. Constant cough, headaches and congestion. By Friday morning my congestion was infected and hocking up yellow crap. Went to a doc in a box in nearby town. They did the swab test for covid and flu in my nose. Covid came back positive, flu test had a very faint positive indicator. PA gave me a Z pack for the yellow crap and Paxlovid for covid. I did not take the Paxlovid because the PA told me to be careful mixing it with my other meds because she wasn’t sure how they would interact with my regular meds and the Z pack. Covid symptoms are the usual fever, conjestion, weakness and exhaustion. I even lost my taste to a point. I could taste sweetness, but not what it was on. I could taste salty, but not what the salt was on. Ok, here’s the strange part. I have severe arthritis in my back, neck and shoulders and hands, spinal stenosis, knees are eat up with arthritis and just worn out in need of knee replacements. I had steroid shots in them the week before. My legs are very weak when climbing stairs because of the knee pains I experience. Shots help, but mild symptoms remain. If I stay in bed too long, my back will ache for hours. During my covid illness I had none of the above issues. I felt physically stronger (short periods) and could walk the stairwell like I was 40 again, I could lay in bed all morning and actually slept until 8:30 one or two days. Typical arthritis pains were non existent. I could twist and turn my head, neck and upper back like it was 10 years ago. As the covid symptoms have decreased (fever and weakness, congestion) those familiar old aches and pains are slowly returning. I’m kind of enjoying the tail end of this covid thing. 
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Posted: 9/25/2023 9:11:20 AM EST
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Quoted: I posted this in the other “I got covid” thread, but thought I’d make my own post to see if anyone else experienced this. Backstory- I got the clot shots #1&2 years ago but no boosters. #2 had my left hand numb and tingling off and on for over a year. My MD said under no circumstances am I to get a booster. Currently 60 yo. Never had covid until two weeks ago. Symptoms started just over two weeks ago. Constant cough, headaches and congestion. By Friday morning my congestion was infected and hocking up yellow crap. Went to a doc in a box in nearby town. They did the swab test for covid and flu in my nose. Covid came back positive, flu test had a very faint positive indicator. PA gave me a Z pack for the yellow crap and Paxlovid for covid. I did not take the Paxlovid because the PA told me to be careful mixing it with my other meds because she wasn’t sure how they would interact with my regular meds and the Z pack. Covid symptoms are the usual fever, conjestion, weakness and exhaustion. I even lost my taste to a point. I could taste sweetness, but not what it was on. I could taste salty, but not what the salt was on. Ok, here’s the strange part. I have severe arthritis in my back, neck and shoulders and hands, spinal stenosis, knees are eat up with arthritis and just worn out in need of knee replacements. I had steroid shots in them the week before. My legs are very weak when climbing stairs because of the knee pains I experience. Shots help, but mild symptoms remain. If I stay in bed too long, my back will ache for hours. During my covid illness I had none of the above issues. I felt physically stronger (short periods) and could walk the stairwell like I was 40 again, I could lay in bed all morning and actually slept until 8:30 one or two days. Typical arthritis pains were non existent. I could twist and turn my head, neck and upper back like it was 10 years ago. As the covid symptoms have decreased (fever and weakness, congestion) those familiar old aches and pains are slowly returning. I’m kind of enjoying the tail end of this covid thing. Is the z-pack anti-inflammatory? Sounds like you were enjoying some inflammation relief. |
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Posted: 9/25/2023 9:11:58 AM EST
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My armchair metaanalysis is that nobody really has a good grasp of the full spectrum and prevalence of covid and covid vaccine related effects on people and pre-existing issues. They are making it up as they go along, and identifying specific issues as they spot them. Few if any of the underlying mechanisms are understood.
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Posted: 9/25/2023 9:12:42 AM EST
[#3]
my experience was just the opposite. Every joint in my body ached.
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Posted: 9/25/2023 9:15:11 AM EST
[#4]
It's weird how covid can affect people differently.
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Posted: 9/25/2023 9:18:39 AM EST
[#5]
I heard Dr. Sherry Tenpenny assert that those who took the clot shot should take ivermectin daily for a week and then go down to twice a week. She also said to detox. Ivermectin helps removes some of the spike protein but another MD said you should get EDTA intravenously to cleanse the blood. Also take a lot of liposomal vit. C daily.
Find a doctor and get treatment. Tenpenny had her license suspended (b/c she ran politically afoul of her state medical board and not b/c of medical competence) but her clinics with licensed doctors still operate. |
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Posted: 9/25/2023 9:31:14 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My armchair metaanalysis is that nobody really has a good grasp of the full spectrum and prevalence of covid and covid vaccine related effects on people and pre-existing issues. They are making it up as they go along, and identifying specific issues as they spot them. Few if any of the underlying mechanisms are understood. They stole this concept from the Gulf War Syndrome. |
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Posted: 9/25/2023 9:32:54 AM EST
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PA gave me a Z pack
Y'all make me sad. |
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Posted: 9/25/2023 9:34:32 AM EST
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My armchair metaanalysis is that nobody really has a good grasp of the full spectrum and prevalence of covid and covid vaccine related effects on people and pre-existing issues. They are making it up as they go along, and identifying specific issues as they spot them. Few if any of the underlying mechanisms are understood. 100% this. |
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Posted: 9/25/2023 9:41:47 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's weird how covid can affect people differently. Indeed. A local gun shop owner told me his tinnitus went away when he had Covid. First time in decades he didn't hear ringing in his ears. My wife got it and lost hearing in one ear. |
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Posted: 9/25/2023 9:46:44 AM EST
[#10]
What did you eat while sick? I have back arthritis when I don't eat carbs I have little to no pain.
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Posted: 9/25/2023 9:47:24 AM EST
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Here's a trippy one. I get two respiratory infections per year, minimum. One in the spring, one in the fall at least. I have pretty much standing refills for amoxicillin. Since I had COVID the first time, I have not had a respiratory infection.
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Posted: 9/25/2023 9:50:07 AM EST
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Sounds like a side-effect of the meds you were on. Probably had an anti-inflammatory quality to them
Just my guess Covid gave me body aches like I'd never experienced. Couldn't get comfortable , couldn't stay in one position too long. Couldn't sleep due to aching and when I'd get to sleep I'd wake up from being in one position too long |
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Posted: 9/25/2023 9:51:06 AM EST
[#13]
nevermind had it confused.
Did they give you prednisone also? Usually they do with a Z Pack. |
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Posted: 9/25/2023 9:56:53 AM EST
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For just over a year after I caught covid in feb 2020 my allergies disappeared.
My asthma wasn't as bad also. Sadly my allergies came back.  
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Posted: 9/25/2023 10:02:02 AM EST
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I got the original US taxpayer funded chi-com bio weapon in Oct of '19. No jabs ever. A month later I lost 100% of my hearing in my left ear in a split second while standing on my porch. CRAZY SHIT!
Got around 25% back slowly since. |
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Posted: 9/25/2023 10:06:12 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: PA gave me a Z pack Y'all make me sad. Zithromax is an antibiotic, not a steroid |
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Posted: 9/25/2023 10:07:29 AM EST
[#17]
I kind of felt the same way. I take Rinvoq plus a few other meds for my arthritis, and during the covid weeks that I endured, I stopped all my arthritis meds and didn't feel any worse. Now that I'm back outside working around the yard and house, my back hurts more, and one of my legs goes numb. I take a one or two Tylenol Arthritis pills a day to counter the pain.
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Posted: 9/25/2023 10:08:37 AM EST
[#18]
All I have is an opinion, an unpopular one.
Other than a broken bone or necessary surgery, stay the fuck away from the medical industry, and all their magic potions. It's a nasty web. Once you're in their web, it's hard to escape. Eat Whole Foods and exercise. |
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Posted: 9/25/2023 10:13:03 AM EST
[#19]
What kind of arthritis do you have?
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Posted: 9/25/2023 10:18:12 AM EST
[#20]
I have a somewhat similar experience. Prior to getting Covid my right knee and hip hurt most days and going up and down stairs was painful. Sleep was sometimes difficult due to the discomfort. The orthopedic surgeon said both joints are in need of replacement. Nowadays, 3 1/2 weeks post-infection, the pain in both joints seems to have been reduced by 90% or so. Stairs aren't an issue any more and I go for pain-free walks daily. All that being said, I still have congestion and a cough along with a loss of taste and smell. Not sure I like the bargain.
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Posted: 9/25/2023 10:23:31 AM EST
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's weird how covid can affect people differently. 
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Posted: 9/25/2023 10:34:41 AM EST
[#22]
It kind of makes sense if you have Rheumatoid Arthritis. With RA your immune system is attacking your own body, acting like your joints are a foreign body. When you get Covid, your immune system turns to attacking the spike protein and leaves your joints to heal.
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Posted: 9/25/2023 10:37:31 AM EST
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Zithromax is an antibiotic, not a steroid Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: PA gave me a Z pack Y'all make me sad. Zithromax is an antibiotic, not a steroid Ah, I thought it was Azithromycin on its own and just called z pak when in conjunction with a corticosteroid. I guess I make myself sad.
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Posted: 9/25/2023 10:41:49 AM EST
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: my experience was just the opposite. Every joint in my body ached. Same, I felt like 60yrs old for about a month. Headache and joint pain were the two symptoms I remember being the worst. |
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Posted: 9/25/2023 10:43:59 AM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My armchair metaanalysis is that nobody really has a good grasp of the full spectrum and prevalence of covid and covid vaccine related effects on people and pre-existing issues. They are making it up as they go along, and identifying specific issues as they spot them. Few if any of the underlying mechanisms are understood. If you're wrong, that makes two of us. |
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Posted: 9/25/2023 10:53:46 AM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: All I have is an opinion, an unpopular one. Other than a broken bone or necessary surgery, stay the fuck away from the medical industry, and all their magic potions. It's a nasty web. Once you're in their web, it's hard to escape. Eat Whole Foods and exercise. You're not wrong, and I think a lot of folks are feeling this way. |
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Posted: 9/25/2023 11:11:25 AM EST
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's weird how covid can affect people differently. Probably because of all the false positives. |
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Posted: 9/25/2023 11:12:28 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Eat Whole Foods Just my local store? |
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Posted: 9/25/2023 11:14:36 AM EST
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It will take another 25 years before we fully understand covid and how it affects people differently.
It will probably be another 10 years before we start seeing “Were you injured by a covid vaccine?” commercials on TV. |
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Posted: 9/25/2023 11:54:14 AM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Here's a trippy one. I get two respiratory infections per year, minimum. One in the spring, one in the fall at least. I have pretty much standing refills for amoxicillin. Since I had COVID the first time, I have not had a respiratory infection. It was like clockwork for me. Then nothing the last 2 years. |
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Posted: 9/25/2023 11:56:36 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: PA gave me a Z pack Y'all make me sad. Why? The guy had a secondary infection. |
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Posted: 9/25/2023 12:01:07 PM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Is the z-pack anti-inflammatory? Sounds like you were enjoying some inflammation relief. Strangely enough there is a lot of studies show very low dose azithromycin helps asthma patients. So I would say its possible. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5037914/ |
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Posted: 9/25/2023 12:06:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just my local store? Auto corrected to Whole Foods store, when I meant - just eat WHOLE FOODS. Fruits, raw veggies, quality meats, nuts, etc. Water, coffee and whiskey... of course. |
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Posted: 9/25/2023 12:12:52 PM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: All I have is an opinion, an unpopular one. Other than a broken bone or necessary surgery, stay the fuck away from the medical industry, and all their magic potions. It's a nasty web. Once you're in their web, it's hard to escape. Eat Whole Foods and exercise. |
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Posted: 9/25/2023 12:18:57 PM EST
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They don't call it "the clot shot" for nothing.
In this piece from Sharyl Attkisson, the doctor found it was almost undetectable micro clots. He treats people with anticoagulant meds.  The COVID Clots: A Full Measure Town Hall |
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Posted: 9/25/2023 12:21:59 PM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It kind of makes sense if you have Rheumatoid Arthritis. With RA your immune system is attacking your own body, acting like your joints are a foreign body. When you get Covid, your immune system turns to attacking the spike protein and leaves your joints to heal. This makes the most sense I’ve heard to date. Yes, I have RA. |
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Posted: 9/25/2023 12:22:54 PM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Zithromax is an antibiotic, not a steroid Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: PA gave me a Z pack Y'all make me sad. Zithromax is an antibiotic, not a steroid I think that's why he's sad. An antibiotic isn't appropriate treatment for either of the suspected culprits. The flu is a virus illness. Z-Packs have no effect on virus's. |
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Posted: 9/25/2023 12:24:07 PM EST
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Redneck medical guess. Arthritis is autoimmune. Something is going on in your body that your body is pissed at. Body attacks that thing. Inflamation, arthritis. Zpack, not the covid, killed or at least knocked down that thing. Body no longer attacking it, causing inflammation. Now it's coming back as the antibiotics wane.
If you were me I would do two things. 1. Go to alldaychemist and order a pile of z packs and another pile of ivermectin. (because USA doctors are pricks and won't just prescribe it) 2. Take a z pack. Did it work again? Great. Now try the ivermectin. Did it also work? Yes. Awesome you can take it indefinitely. It's much less toxic to your system than azithromyacin. If the ivermectin doesn't work but the zpack does, then talk to your doctor. See if there's something like it you can take long term, or is there some short term even stronger thing that might actually kill off whatever your body is attacking. This might also be something to do with your stomach. There's a lot of studies where bad gut bacteria are causing lots of auto immune problems. So the zpack destroyed the bad bacteria in your gut. Now its coming back. In that case, destroy it again with another zpack. Then take every friggen probiotic you can find. Drink some kombucha. Eat some sauerkraut, anything and everything you can do to get your stomach bacteria in order and keep it that way. Oh and why the ivermectin? Because i've seen a zillion anecdotal tales of it curing things besides covid, and because it's so low risk on the side effects and affordable it worth a taking a chance on. Disclaimer, I am not a medical doctor, have no doctoring papers, and am just a random internet person that you should not take advice from. |
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Posted: 9/25/2023 12:30:05 PM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I think that's why he's sad. An antibiotic isn't appropriate treatment for either of the suspected culprits. The flu is a virus illness. Z-Packs have no effect on virus's. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: PA gave me a Z pack Y'all make me sad. Zithromax is an antibiotic, not a steroid I think that's why he's sad. An antibiotic isn't appropriate treatment for either of the suspected culprits. The flu is a virus illness. Z-Packs have no effect on virus's. good point. I thought he was saying a steroid (mistakenly) is why his joints felt better. We all make ourselves sad. ETA: although I assumed the antibiotic was for the infected mucous, assumed bacterial infection secondary to viral infection. |
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Posted: 9/25/2023 12:37:23 PM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: All I have is an opinion, an unpopular one. Other than a broken bone or necessary surgery, stay the fuck away from the medical industry, and all their magic potions. It's a nasty web. Once you're in their web, it's hard to escape. Eat Whole Foods and exercise. My wife is a CRNA. She kind of preaches what you just said. If anyone in the family has to go in for a procedure, she’s right there and on top of things and she will correct anyone about to make a mistake or ignore a situation. She has very little faith in the system but does her part to do things right. Right now we’re at odds because of her not believing there is anything that can be done for post menopausal “I don’t need sex anymore” attitude. I went on TRT because two years ago I felt like a potted plant and didn’t give a shit about sex anymore. She thought I just wasn’t attracted to her anymore. Now I’m back and swinging the old Louisville slugger (well, it’s more like those miniature bats they give out at games) and she doesn’t give a shit. I told her it’s her turn for hormone therapy. “I’m not putting that unnatural shit in my body! There’s nothing wrong with me.” Nevermind that it’s just replacing what nature took away with age. She doesn’t trust the medical system. |
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Posted: 9/25/2023 12:40:16 PM EST
[#41]
Z pack was for the infected sinuses. It did clear it up. I still have some sinus issues, just not the thick, yellow globs of disgusting crap coming out now.
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Posted: 9/25/2023 12:43:40 PM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It kind of makes sense if you have Rheumatoid Arthritis. With RA your immune system is attacking your own body, acting like your joints are a foreign body. When you get Covid, your immune system turns to attacking the spike protein and leaves your joints to heal. That was my layman's guess. The virus is a sort of a suppressor for your over-revved immune system. But what the F do I know. |
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Posted: 9/25/2023 12:48:00 PM EST
[#43]
I have the Covaids right now, my back, hips, left shoulder, and knees are all killing me.
Had back surgery, could use another or two, need two new hips and two new knees. I have had three left shoulder surgeries. The cough, makes sleep virtually impossible, hence the exhaustion. Fever sucks also |
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Posted: 9/25/2023 12:52:09 PM EST
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The couple times I got Covid, I would feel like I was 10 years younger a day or 2 before the fever hits me. Once I get a fever I’m down. The first time I had it, I was out for over 2 weeks and took about a month to get back to 100%. This last time I got it a couple weeks ago…I had the fever for a day and half to 2 days and then I was about 80% for a couple days. By day 3 after the fever I was feeling about 100% and was back to work. Never got any of the vaccines even though some people are telling me I should even after this 2nd round and only being down for 4 days total.
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Posted: 9/25/2023 12:56:16 PM EST
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Wasn't hydroxychloroquine originally identified as a potential "cure" because arthritis patients taking it weren't getting sick with Covid?
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Posted: 9/25/2023 1:01:51 PM EST
[#46]
I thought I had a sinus infection when I had the wuhan flu. The DR. gave me a Z pack and it went away.
Get your knees replaced. Best thing I ever did. The new knees help with all the back related pain by giving good support where there was none. The strangest part of the knee recovery was, when I had the right knee replaced I would fall over to the right for no reason. never went down. The left knee I would start falling backwards. That was scary because we have stairs I had to go up and down. again never fell all the way down. |
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Posted: 9/25/2023 1:02:36 PM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Here's a trippy one. I get two respiratory infections per year, minimum. One in the spring, one in the fall at least. I have pretty much standing refills for amoxicillin. Since I had COVID the first time, I have not had a respiratory infection. It's been a number of years now since I've gotten *really* sick. I had COVID in early 2022, and am unvaccinated. Weird. |
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Posted: 9/25/2023 1:04:13 PM EST
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You were probably taking NSAID's like Advil, or drugs containing it. Now that you're getting better, you're reducing use of those drugs.
Oh wait, let me give you the clotshot friendly version: The COVID infection activated the latent vaccine that has modified all your DNA. You were starting to transform into a zombie, and zombies don't feel pain. Luckily your body fought off the transformation and now you are fully human again. Seriously, glad you are feeling better! |
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Posted: 9/25/2023 1:06:06 PM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I think that's why he's sad. An antibiotic isn't appropriate treatment for either of the suspected culprits. The flu is a virus illness. Z-Packs have no effect on virus's. Did you miss this part?  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/25/2023 1:07:47 PM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My armchair metaanalysis is that nobody really has a good grasp of the full spectrum and prevalence of covid and covid vaccine related effects on people and pre-existing issues. They are making it up as they go along, and identifying specific issues as they spot them. Few if any of the underlying mechanisms are understood. This. I had me covids, no vax. Suffered through it with the normal meds. Lost taste for about a month. So far, standard stuff. Then my shit started smelling like acid. No diet change, just the foulest smelling literal crap this side of a cat box. I was so concerned i talked to a doctor, who just stared like i was an alien. Im convinced covid did something to my gut biology that took months to recover. Ive only seen one or two articles even alluding to that particular symptom, but i agree. They dont know half of what this stuff does. |
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