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Posted: 1/20/2021 12:33:13 PM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There are more than two choices. This. And I have exercised that 3rd option in prior elections (I did vote for Trump twice FWIW). But McCain and Rmoney did not get my vote.... |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 12:36:26 PM EDT
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I’m embarrassed for this site with so many defeatist, worthless sacks of shit posting in threads like this.
I’m not sure which ones are commie plants trying to see discontent and which ones of you are just giant pussies. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 12:37:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The lesser of 2 evils is still evil and most of the Republicans feed at the trough w/ the Democrats after the Ds have had their fill. I'm not going to quit voting, but Mr Ed may get more votes. Mr. Ed and gap tooth....who are you referring to? Thanks! |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 12:39:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m embarrassed for this site with so many defeatist, worthless sacks of shit posting in threads like this. Please enlighten us with how empowered you feel right now. Maybe we're just looking at things the wrong way. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 12:44:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Please enlighten us with how empowered you feel right now. Maybe we're just looking at things the wrong way. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I’m embarrassed for this site with so many defeatist, worthless sacks of shit posting in threads like this. Please enlighten us with how empowered you feel right now. Maybe we're just looking at things the wrong way. I get it. Biden sucks. Obama sucked. Clinton sucked. All of the democrats suck. A bunch of the republicans suck. None of this is new. The democrats rigged the election. That’s not new either. They’ve been doing that shit for decades. However, this pity party “I’ll never waste my precious time voting again” attitude IS FUCKING BULLSHIT! Quit wallowing in shit, suck it up and do what you can to change things. This spoiled ass, take my ball and go home pussy mentality is a big part of how our country got to this point in the first place. We got fucked, but what are you going to do about it? Roll over and quit? FUCK THAT! Get the fuck back up and kick that motherfucker in the balls if you have to. I fucking swear, it’s a good thing our founding fathers had better things to do then having a fucking cry fest on the internet. You think it was easy for them to stand the fuck up and take what they wanted? If it was up to all these motherfuckers here, we’d still be sipping tea and bowing to the crown. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 12:50:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I get it. Biden sucks. Obama sucked. Clinton sucked. All of the democrats suck. A bunch of the republicans suck. None of this is new. The democrats rigged the election. That’s not new either. They’ve been doing that shit for decades. However, this pity party “I’ll never waste my precious time voting again” attitude IS FUCKING BULLSHIT! Quit wallowing in shit, suck it up and do what you can to change things. This spoiled ass, take my ball and go home pussy mentality is a big part of how our country got to this point in the first place. Oh ok, I see where you're confused. You think just because I might not be voting that I won't be doing anything to effect change. Two VERY different issues. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 12:53:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh ok, I see where you're confused. You think just because I might not be voting that I won't be doing anything to effect change. Two VERY different issues. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I get it. Biden sucks. Obama sucked. Clinton sucked. All of the democrats suck. A bunch of the republicans suck. None of this is new. The democrats rigged the election. That’s not new either. They’ve been doing that shit for decades. However, this pity party “I’ll never waste my precious time voting again” attitude IS FUCKING BULLSHIT! Quit wallowing in shit, suck it up and do what you can to change things. This spoiled ass, take my ball and go home pussy mentality is a big part of how our country got to this point in the first place. Oh ok, I see where you're confused. You think just because I might not be voting that I won't be doing anything to effect change. Two VERY different issues. Yeah, because limiting your tactics is a great idea. Unless you and a few million others are going to start shooting motherfuckers tomorrow, we need to use every option at our disposal. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 12:55:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, because limiting your tactics is a great idea. Unless you and a few million others are going to start shooting motherfuckers tomorrow, we need to use every option at our disposal. See, now you've gotten the order confused. Jury before Ammo. Yes, Ammo brings us back to Jury but by that point we're not expecting much. If you feel politics is where the fight/effort is at....I'll repeat my original question...please enlighten us with your empowerment and thoughts of how change/improvement will happen. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 12:56:51 PM EDT
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You believe in the myth of “good” politicians?
Snort. Post belongs in the Bigfoot forum with the rest of the delusional. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 12:57:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Mr. Ed and gap tooth....who are you referring to? Thanks! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The lesser of 2 evils is still evil and most of the Republicans feed at the trough w/ the Democrats after the Ds have had their fill. I'm not going to quit voting, but Mr Ed may get more votes. Mr. Ed and gap tooth....who are you referring to? Thanks! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mister_Ed |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 1:07:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That is the negative view of things, which is typical on this site. The positive form of the statement is "Vote for the person who represents you the most". Doing nothing lets the greater evil have an easier win. How is that helpful? There is no new revolution and there is no civil war. Despite the loud mouths on the Qtards in the election thread saying millions of Americans were going to step up to make sure Biden wasn't sworn in...nothing has happened and the Qtards have faded back into the shadows. The reality of the situation is politicians will decide how you get to exist and they are still going to be elected by voting. The best approach is to find people to run in the primaries, support them, and help them win. That is the time to vote your conscience and make big changes. After that, it is voting for the person that represents you the most. Back in 2008 many here said they were done and were going to do everything they could to "burn it (the country) down quicker", yet here we are and the country still exists after surviving Obama. This sounds great in theory and is certainly how most of us vote, but is not working out too well. How about this. When Trump made MAGA changes he brought out all the crazies on the left but also many in the middle and those who do not generally care about politics. Much of this was due to media spin, which is not going to change and we can't do much about. Despite best efforts of media, do we think people are going to prosper under dem policies, or will it be a giant shit sandwich for a good percentage, millions and millions, of the populace? I'm willing to bet the shine will wear off fairly quickly. If I keep voting R I keep the opposition alive, give the false dragon life, for little real benefit. If I stop or vote 3rd party and let people get what they want, hopefully good and hard, there might be a good chance of political tides changing direction in a few years. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 1:13:01 PM EDT
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I've been preaching this for years. Holding you nose and voting RINO only prevents the party from changing.
After 41 years a Republican, I finally gave up last week and changed to no party affiliation. After listen to McConnell yesterday say the riots were Trump's fault, I don't know if I'll ever vote Republican again. The GOP is dead to me! 
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Posted: 1/20/2021 1:13:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This sounds great in theory and is certainly how most of us vote, but is not working out too well. How about this. When Trump made MAGA changes he brought out all the crazies on the left but also many in the middle and those who do not generally care about politics. Much of this was due to media spin, which is not going to change and we can't do much about. Despite best efforts of media, do we think people are going to prosper under dem policies, or will it be a giant shit sandwich for a good percentage, millions and millions, of the populace? I'm willing to bet the shine will wear off fairly quickly. If I keep voting R I keep the opposition alive, give the false dragon life, for little real benefit. If I stop or vote 3rd party and let people get what they want, hopefully good and hard, there might be a good chance of political tides changing direction in a few years. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That is the negative view of things, which is typical on this site. The positive form of the statement is "Vote for the person who represents you the most". Doing nothing lets the greater evil have an easier win. How is that helpful? There is no new revolution and there is no civil war. Despite the loud mouths on the Qtards in the election thread saying millions of Americans were going to step up to make sure Biden wasn't sworn in...nothing has happened and the Qtards have faded back into the shadows. The reality of the situation is politicians will decide how you get to exist and they are still going to be elected by voting. The best approach is to find people to run in the primaries, support them, and help them win. That is the time to vote your conscience and make big changes. After that, it is voting for the person that represents you the most. Back in 2008 many here said they were done and were going to do everything they could to "burn it (the country) down quicker", yet here we are and the country still exists after surviving Obama. This sounds great in theory and is certainly how most of us vote, but is not working out too well. How about this. When Trump made MAGA changes he brought out all the crazies on the left but also many in the middle and those who do not generally care about politics. Much of this was due to media spin, which is not going to change and we can't do much about. Despite best efforts of media, do we think people are going to prosper under dem policies, or will it be a giant shit sandwich for a good percentage, millions and millions, of the populace? I'm willing to bet the shine will wear off fairly quickly. If I keep voting R I keep the opposition alive, give the false dragon life, for little real benefit. If I stop or vote 3rd party and let people get what they want, hopefully good and hard, there might be a good chance of political tides changing direction in a few years. How many times has “winning by losing” been a successful strategy? It’s nothing more than a way of “taking my ball and going home,” can’t beat me if I don’t play the game when in reality the game just goes on without you. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 1:15:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've been preaching this for years. Holding you nose and voting RINO only prevents the party from changing. After 41 years a Republican, I finally gave up last week and changed to no party affiliation. After listen to McConnell yesterday say the riots were Trump's fault, I don't know if I'll ever vote Republican again. The GOP is dead to me! So now, you have absolutely no say as to who wins until the general election. Sounds like a recipe for real change! |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 1:19:01 PM EDT
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Not voting isn’t going to change anything like voting for encumbrance Republicans isn’t going to change anything either.
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Posted: 1/20/2021 1:19:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How many times has “winning by losing” been a successful strategy? It’s nothing more than a way of “taking my ball and going home,” can’t beat me if I don’t play the game when in reality the game just goes on without you. LOL!!! I don't want to be a dick and insult your intelligence, but what do you think just happened? 
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Posted: 1/20/2021 1:23:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And your opinion is wrong. If these people govern me, I have a right to bitch whether I voted or not. I also get to bitch about the people responsible for voting for these fuckers because it's their fault. Not mine, I didn't choose them. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: In my opinion if you don't vote you have no voice in anything, you are a looser if you don't vote, you have no right to bitch if you don't vote. And your opinion is wrong. If these people govern me, I have a right to bitch whether I voted or not. I also get to bitch about the people responsible for voting for these fuckers because it's their fault. Not mine, I didn't choose them.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 1:32:32 PM EDT
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for the people saying you should still vote
Why should you vote, if the left can control the election fraud committed, and republicans are complicit in it, or won't do anything about it? edit - a bunch of people won't admit your vote only counts, if there is a fair election |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 1:36:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You know you'll see it posted here in about 21 months.  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: This thread won't age well......or is it ok to refuse the lesser of two evils now?  Guarantee in 2022 it will be back to ‘but we have to vote for cocain Mitch’ he’s the only one the MSM tells us is ElEcTaBLe!! "You have to vote for Kemp and Raffensperger!"  /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/476-342.gif You know you'll see it posted here in about 21 months. The site will be declared a white supremacy haven and deplatformed long before then. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 1:37:07 PM EDT
[#20]
How long do you sit at a poker table after you find out the game is rigged against you?
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Posted: 1/20/2021 1:37:43 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Libertarian is the way to go. The only people who want to leave everyone alone. R doesn't represent me any longer D never has That's where I intend to land eventually. After writing in Trump for a cycle or two. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 1:39:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The republicans will NEVER win another election....... I do not believe that has registered with many people...this election changed everything. Socialism is here folks....the country is over.... This... With them getting away with the cheating and various types of election fruad, plus the granting citizenship to unlimited millions of immigrants forever tilting the scale. With those things alone, it doesn't matter how many legit votes we get. I'm tired of the gloom, someone prove me wrong and help me see the light. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 1:41:53 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryOh ok...so you mean the actual Mr. Ed. Wasn't sure if it was a person...kinda like the way Mitch is Turtle. I've actually seen/heard that Mickey Mouse gets the majority of votes in regard to those not running. Maybe voting for the AR-15 would send a message? |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 1:58:19 PM EDT
[#24]
Freedom is a a word for nothing left to lose.
Voting in national elections has become giving some cake to the masses to make them think they have a real say. Your vote is worth about as much as a Biden dollar. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 2:23:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh ok...so you mean the actual Mr. Ed. Wasn't sure if it was a person...kinda like the way Mitch is Turtle. I've actually seen/heard that Mickey Mouse gets the majority of votes in regard to those not running. Maybe voting for the AR-15 would send a message? Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh ok...so you mean the actual Mr. Ed. Wasn't sure if it was a person...kinda like the way Mitch is Turtle. I've actually seen/heard that Mickey Mouse gets the majority of votes in regard to those not running. Maybe voting for the AR-15 would send a message? If none of the candidates is acceptable I write in Mr Ed because a talking horse could do a better job. I've done it the most often when a D runs unopposed, but I've been doing it since I started voting. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 2:26:42 PM EDT
[#26]
When has that never been the case?
Always vote for the least worst or maybe best alternative whichever way you want to look at it Really, some of you people here sound like the communists, who always tell us the reason it’s not worked out is that the right person hasn’t come along yet to run it People are flawed. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 2:28:27 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m embarrassed for this site with so many defeatist, worthless sacks of shit posting in threads like this. I’m not sure which ones are commie plants trying to see discontent and which ones of you are just giant pussies. McConnell's party should die from neglect. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 2:33:47 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The republicans will NEVER win another election....... I do not believe that has registered with many people...this election changed everything. Socialism is here folks....the country is over.... |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 2:37:24 PM EDT
[#29]
Meh, I'm back to voting L if there's an L candidate, against the various taxes and silly state constitution amendments we are bombarded with, and tossing my 2 cents worth in local elections.
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Posted: 1/20/2021 2:37:33 PM EDT
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i honestly believe voting is a waste of time if your not a democrat. trump won because they were not prepared for his support at the polls, while he lost because they WERE prepared for it. the fraud became obvious and is systemic. it does not make a difference is the candidate pays a few people to commit massive fraud, or if a few hundred rabid dem supporters do less fraud on their own, as it equals out to massive fraud in the end.
the two party system is a scam anyway, and as we have seen lately the repubs dont want to stop the fraud either and used it / allowed it to remove trump. this is a problem that voting and courts cant fix, " we the people" will have to fix it, the same way we fixed it in 1776. anything less is doomed to failure. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 2:40:18 PM EDT
[#31]
I'm done voting at the federal level. This country is about to get everything it deserves for allowing these people to run over us for decades.
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Posted: 1/20/2021 3:26:38 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: for the people saying you should still vote Why should you vote, if the left can control the election fraud committed, and republicans are complicit in it, or won't do anything about it? edit - a bunch of people won't admit your vote only counts, if there is a fair election There hasn’t been a fair election in 100+ years. Pre determined candidates the MSM deems ‘electable’ = rigged game. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 3:36:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The site will be declared a white supremacy haven and deplatformed long before then. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: This thread won't age well......or is it ok to refuse the lesser of two evils now? Guarantee in 2022 it will be back to ‘but we have to vote for cocain Mitch’ he’s the only one the MSM tells us is ElEcTaBLe!! "You have to vote for Kemp and Raffensperger!" /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/476-342.gif You know you'll see it posted here in about 21 months. The site will be declared a white supremacy haven and deplatformed long before then. 
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Posted: 1/20/2021 3:40:45 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don’t really agree with that. There will be a power vacuum in the republican party and there will be some that will rise to fill that void. The key to succeeding is going to be to hold them accountable. They have to know we will not accept lip service anymore. When they start campaigning they need to know we’re not going to accept dim-lite. If we can do that there might still be a chance. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The republicans will NEVER win another election....... I do not believe that has registered with many people...this election changed everything. Socialism is here folks....the country is over.... I don’t really agree with that. There will be a power vacuum in the republican party and there will be some that will rise to fill that void. The key to succeeding is going to be to hold them accountable. They have to know we will not accept lip service anymore. When they start campaigning they need to know we’re not going to accept dim-lite. If we can do that there might still be a chance. How will you beat the fraud? |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 3:44:51 PM EDT
[#35]
GOP and DNC same thing
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Posted: 1/20/2021 3:48:38 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If you don't vote for the lesser of the two evils, you can't bitch when the greater is elected. Wanna bet? |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 3:50:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am finally coming around to the truth that being forced to choose between the lesser of two evils, is really no choice at all. Been saying that for 30 years, mostly to people who insisted pragmatism and keeping the D's out of office at that moment was more important than long term fortification of conservative politics. And, here we are. I got called naive, traitorous, stupid, unrealistic, by people on this very forum for years and years when I told them voting lesser evil was going to fuck us forever. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 3:51:56 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No they won't. They want to be the minority party. All the benefits, none of the blame. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The rino's are gonna miss the MAGA crowd in 2022. No they won't. They want to be the minority party. All the benefits, none of the blame. They might be a much smaller minority party than what they want. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 3:52:57 PM EDT
[#39]
Maybe on the local level.
Anything above them? They can all go fuck themselves, I'll write in Pepe. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 3:55:02 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Guarantee in 2022 it will be back to ‘but we have to vote for cocain Mitch’ he’s the only one the MSM tells us is ElEcTaBLe!! I was hoping for another chance to vote for Mittens. Bummer. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 3:56:26 PM EDT
[#41]
The less of the evils is what it’s almost always been.
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Posted: 1/20/2021 3:56:48 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Vote against the incumbents. Either party, it doesn't matter. I have come to the realization, career politicians have done the MOST DAMAGE. The best fuck you, finger in the eye we can give. Please vote. This is probably the best answer honestly. The longer they sit there the more connected and terrible they get. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 3:57:05 PM EDT
[#43]
Be pragmatic. Always vote for the lesser of two evils.
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Posted: 1/20/2021 4:00:17 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: A general election is a delaying action. A delaying action won’t win the war, but it can prevent total defeat long enough to find a path to victory. You’re correct, but the Republican establishment doesn’t think that way. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 4:01:15 PM EDT
[#45]
Good luck with that.
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Posted: 1/20/2021 4:02:24 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If you don't vote for the lesser of the two evils, you can't bitch when the greater is elected. That attitude is why our political problem will never be solved. Stockholm Syndrome in action |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 4:04:11 PM EDT
[#47]
In presidential primaries and finals I've voted the lesser of two evils my adult life. I will not cast another vote until we get serialized paper ballots, universal voter ID and purple fingers. That likely means never again.
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Posted: 1/20/2021 4:04:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When you can pause the vote, see what it takes to win, and then win. What is the point in voting ? Exactly. Voting no longer matters. You could get the most votes ever in the history of voting and they’ll just stuff the ballot box to make you lose. Venezuela 2.0 |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 4:04:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Libertarian is the way to go. The only people who want to leave everyone alone. R doesn't represent me any longer D never has Unless they go through a serious reformation, I’ll never vote for a Libertarian candidate in a national race. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 4:07:13 PM EDT
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What's the most demoralizing about how little voting matters isn't how fraudulent this election was, how spineless the supreme court was, or how millions of people wanted to elect a pedo alzheimer patient to avoid 4 more years of orange man.
The most demoralizing thing is how little it meant when we voted and won. How Trump was effectively corralled, blocked or delayed at every turn, by the mass of unelected bureaucrats that infest DC, by the Republican party itself the first 2 years when they had control, by a never ending special investigation and impotent attorneys general. That's why our votes don't matter, even if they were counted fairly. Because even when we win, the media bureaucrat industrial complex prevents any true change from occurring. The left owns the FBI, the State Department, the Pentagon, the department of education, the media and every unelected staffer. Any attempt at reform by elected officials will simply be mired in endless investigations and media obfuscation. Dissent will be silenced and deplatformed. We could replace every senator, congressman and the president with clones of Rand Paul and he wouldn't accomplish anything but replacing some judges. |
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