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Posted: 1/20/2021 9:52:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When you can pause the vote, see what it takes to win, and then win. What is the point in voting ? this is where I am. 
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Posted: 1/20/2021 9:53:46 AM EDT
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Voting doesn’t matter without ID and easy to do record keeping an auditing. That will never happen. The GOP will move left in an attempt to get votes, and will lose way more than they gain. Marxism will control the United States for the foreseeable future.
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Posted: 1/20/2021 9:54:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The republicans will NEVER win another election....... I do not believe that has registered with many people...this election changed everything. Socialism is here folks....the country is over.... I still cannot understand why people can't grasp this simple fact. This election is not about Trump. It showed that the election system was distorted by the Dems on a level never seen before in this country. There will never be another patriotic American elected to high office. Never. The powerful may allow some from the GOP to continue to be there to keep up the facade of a two party system, but only those who are approved members of the club. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 9:56:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "You have to vote for Kemp and Raffensperger!"  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: This thread won't age well......or is it ok to refuse the lesser of two evils now?  Guarantee in 2022 it will be back to ‘but we have to vote for cocain Mitch’ he’s the only one the MSM tells us is ElEcTaBLe!! "You have to vote for Kemp and Raffensperger!"  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 9:56:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: At the present time I'm planning to just vote in state and local elections for from here on out.....Mostly for Independents. The possible exception would be if Rand Paul ran and somehow managed to win the GOP Primary but I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for that to happen. I'm really looking foreword to 2022 and stiffing the fucking GOP. The states will all eventually fall too, as conservative leaning leadership moves left. What happens when Texas goes blue? There is literally no way to get past that. Zero. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 9:57:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: This thread won't age well......or is it ok to refuse the lesser of two evils now? Guarantee in 2022 it will be back to ‘but we have to vote for cocain Mitch’ he’s the only one the MSM tells us is ElEcTaBLe!! "You have to vote for Kemp and Raffensperger!" /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/476-342.gif You know you'll see it posted here in about 21 months. 
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Posted: 1/20/2021 9:58:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't let them win by demoralizing our side into not even voting. I get it, I really do. But never give up, hell vote as a sign of protest. Don't just lay down and die. Primary out every republican that has served more than 1 term, and some newbies too. That's the movement that needs to happen. We need more Laurens. This. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 9:58:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The states will all eventually fall too, as conservative leaning leadership moves left. What happens when Texas goes blue? There is literally no way to get past that. Zero. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: At the present time I'm planning to just vote in state and local elections for from here on out.....Mostly for Independents. The possible exception would be if Rand Paul ran and somehow managed to win the GOP Primary but I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for that to happen. I'm really looking foreword to 2022 and stiffing the fucking GOP. The states will all eventually fall too, as conservative leaning leadership moves left. What happens when Texas goes blue? There is literally no way to get past that. Zero. Nope. The slide has been happening for 100+ years. Death of 1000cuts. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 10:02:29 AM EDT
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Libertarian is the way to go. The only people who want to leave everyone alone.
R doesn't represent me any longer D never has |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 10:02:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "If you are part of a society that votes, then do so. There may be no candidates and no measures you want to vote for ... but there are certain to be ones you want to vote against. In case of doubt, vote against. By this rule you will rarely go wrong." - Robert Anson Heinlein Heinlein Maneuver?
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Posted: 1/20/2021 10:02:56 AM EDT
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LOL @ the institution of voting. Good stuff. It's nice that you still believe. Santa, the Easter Bunny, and the Tooth Fairy applaud your faith.
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Posted: 1/20/2021 10:02:57 AM EDT
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I wont stop voting in my local elections...those have a larger impact on my day to day life....if its convenient ill vote in a federal election but i dont believe you will see another republican majority or president for at least a decade or more unless they fix the fraud
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Posted: 1/20/2021 10:04:44 AM EDT
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I vote. But I look back and really hate some of the candidates we put up. McCain and Romney sucked donkey balls.
I use to be member of the RNC. Now I send a few dollars here and there directly to candidates that I believe support my values. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 10:04:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You know you'll see it posted here in about 21 months. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: This thread won't age well......or is it ok to refuse the lesser of two evils now? Guarantee in 2022 it will be back to ‘but we have to vote for cocain Mitch’ he’s the only one the MSM tells us is ElEcTaBLe!! "You have to vote for Kemp and Raffensperger!" /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/476-342.gif You know you'll see it posted here in about 21 months. Oh for sure. It’s crazy how so many decry the MSM (rightfully so), yet they continue to let them influence many aspects of their lives. It’s really quite astonishing. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 10:05:18 AM EDT
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Vote against the incumbents.
Either party, it doesn't matter. I have come to the realization, career politicians have done the MOST DAMAGE. The best fuck you, finger in the eye we can give. Please vote. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 10:08:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I still cannot understand why people can't grasp this simple fact. This election is not about Trump. It showed that the election system was distorted by the Dems on a level never seen before in this country. There will never be another patriotic American elected to high office. Never. The powerful may allow some from the GOP to continue to be there to keep up the facade of a two party system, but only those who are approved members of the club. Yes and that kind already had been happening. Trump was a speed bump. Notice how fast the GOP turned at the end. It wasn’t so bad because Dems and Rep were more middle of the road, so the unioarty wasn’t passing radical shit. If you looked at the Dem platform under Clinton, and even in the years lost to Bush’s it would read like Many of today’s Reps. Freedom of speech is gone. The US can’t exist without it. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 10:13:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Vote against the incumbents. Either party, it doesn't matter. I have come to the realization, career politicians have done the MOST DAMAGE. The best fuck you, finger in the eye we can give. Please vote. Vote against all. Least might be a feel good. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 10:13:52 AM EDT
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Personally I'm done voting. Not only have they rigged the Presidential, Congressional and State elections but they're going to give amnesty to over 11M illegals. Our votes simply don't count any more. Even if you had a good non-demarcate candidate to run the algorithm will just wipe them out in the wee hours of the morning. I'm not wasting my time voting any more.
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Posted: 1/20/2021 10:49:01 AM EDT
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You would not want to choose between getting kicked in the shins or kicked in the nuts? Whatever the kicker decides is fine with you?
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Posted: 1/20/2021 10:53:54 AM EDT
[#20]
Libertarian all the way!
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Posted: 1/20/2021 11:01:57 AM EDT
[#21]
The lesser of two evils is still evil. If that were my only choice between the two, I would opt out.
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Posted: 1/20/2021 11:05:48 AM EDT
[#22]
I'm a Never-RINO voter now.
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Posted: 1/20/2021 11:15:02 AM EDT
[#23]
Impossible to win under the present circumstances.
We voted, and out came the suitcases until we were defeated. It’s probably been this way since 2008. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 11:16:23 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/20/2021 11:23:01 AM EDT
[#25]
I’m going to vote for the rapper or porn star next time.
Honestly I would rather Kanye West than Biden. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 11:24:11 AM EDT
[#26]
Voting for the lesser evil has always been the case, and will always be the case.
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Posted: 1/20/2021 11:26:08 AM EDT
[#27]
This is exactly what you get when you vote for the lesser of two evils.
Not that elections matter going forward. This latest election makes Putin’s election victories seem legitimate. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 11:28:23 AM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It won't matter much if there's still mass mail-in voting, no id required to vote, dominion machines, and importing hordes of 3rd worlders and sticking them all in purple/red states. This ^^ |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 11:35:26 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Impossible to win under the present circumstances. We voted, and out came the suitcases until we were defeated. It’s probably been this way since 2008. Trump will be the kingmaker as far as actual votes that are placed, but you are correct that it doesn't matter if the machine is fixed. Oddly, I expect the left to feign being "moderate" in the immediate future. They really want things to go back to the good ole days when they could all pretend to be adversaries while maintaining their power and wealth. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 11:46:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There are these things called primary elections. Use them. Stop sending the same people to DC for 40 years straight, all the while complaining that things don’t change. The problem is too many people idealizing fucking slimy politicians. For example, the fucking turtle, his popularity here in arfcom in the last 4 years was like a roller coaster ride. Some people finally saw what a slimy fuck he was after the capitol protest. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 11:48:42 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Guarantee in 2022 it will be back to ‘but we have to vote for cocain Mitch’ he’s the only one the MSM tells us is ElEcTaBLe!! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This thread won't age well......or is it ok to refuse the lesser of two evils now? Guarantee in 2022 it will be back to ‘but we have to vote for cocain Mitch’ he’s the only one the MSM tells us is ElEcTaBLe!! What a depressing cycle it's gonna be.
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Posted: 1/20/2021 11:49:28 AM EDT
[#32]
In voting for the lesser of two evils, you are still voting for evil.
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Posted: 1/20/2021 11:50:39 AM EDT
[#33]
 I'm voting independent from now on. Yes I know Dems will win, they will always win. Voting for some backstabbing cuck Repub wont change that. More people voting independent will. I'll do my small part |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 11:52:21 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/20/2021 11:56:32 AM EDT
[#35]
I did that with Romney and McCain. I won't do it again. I'm done with voting period. When the office of the presidency can be hijacked like it was, what's the point?
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Posted: 1/20/2021 11:58:49 AM EDT
[#36]
I'll continue voting for the candidates and decisions I most align with, it's been the lesser of two evils for a long time for me already. Trump is a liberal, after all.
I get all the arguments and rationalizations against it, but I'd rather take 20 minutes out of my day and try, than give up. Even if you think your president or midterm votes don't count, there's still going to be your local bills on the ballot. I can't just give up over 20 minutes of my day. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 11:59:33 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Voting for the lesser evil has always been the case, and will always be the case. The Patriot Party it is then. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 12:03:10 PM EDT
[#38]
 If "None of the Above" were included on every race on every ballot the participation rate would go parabolic.
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Posted: 1/20/2021 12:03:54 PM EDT
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The GOP IS A HUGE PART OF THE PROBLEM. We've all been supporting the GOP for so long because "they're not as bad as the Left" and they have been screwing us over the whole time. Remember Paul Ryan and Obamacare? Remember McCain, Romney and Graham? Did you notice how 90% of the GOP refused to investigate the election fraud and turned on Trump instead of protecting the US and the Constitution? McConnell and Pence personally insured that Biden/Harris is our president because they are loyal to the System, not us.
A vote for the GOP is a vote for the Swamp and a totalitarian government. They may talk about protecting the US but 90% of them are just playing a game to line their own pockets. If nothing is done to remove all of the corruption in our government we will never see a legitimate election again. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 12:04:52 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If "None of the Above" were included on every race on every ballot the participation rate would go parabolic.
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Posted: 1/20/2021 12:09:12 PM EDT
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As long as the kink in the vote tallying is a feature, the Republicans will not win elections. That kink will go away when 11,000,000 illegal aliens become new voters. So unless voter integrity is fixed before the illegal alien citizenship surge, voting at the national level in the US is about as meaningful as voting in Venezuela.
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Posted: 1/20/2021 12:11:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In voting for the lesser of two evils, you are still voting for evil. That is the negative view of things, which is typical on this site. The positive form of the statement is "Vote for the person who represents you the most". Doing nothing lets the greater evil have an easier win. How is that helpful? There is no new revolution and there is no civil war. Despite the loud mouths on the Qtards in the election thread saying millions of Americans were going to step up to make sure Biden wasn't sworn in...nothing has happened and the Qtards have faded back into the shadows. The reality of the situation is politicians will decide how you get to exist and they are still going to be elected by voting. The best approach is to find people to run in the primaries, support them, and help them win. That is the time to vote your conscience and make big changes. After that, it is voting for the person that represents you the most. Back in 2008 many here said they were done and were going to do everything they could to "burn it (the country) down quicker", yet here we are and the country still exists after surviving Obama. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 12:11:45 PM EDT
[#43]
I’m registering democrat. For opsec and to fuck with their primaries.
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Posted: 1/20/2021 12:12:17 PM EDT
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Just wait. Next election everyone will be telling you to vote R or else you're a communist douchebag.
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Posted: 1/20/2021 12:13:18 PM EDT
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Of course I am going to still vote for the lesser of two evils........that's how it always is.
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Posted: 1/20/2021 12:16:40 PM EDT
[#46]
In my opinion if you don’t vote you have no voice in anything, you are a looser if you don’t vote, you have no right to bitch if you don’t vote.
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Posted: 1/20/2021 12:19:02 PM EDT
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I'm ready to vote in anything that wants to confiscate Zuckerberg level wealth. If those billionaire assholes want socialism let's give it to them and good.
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Posted: 1/20/2021 12:25:10 PM EDT
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Nope.
I've always been a "hold your nose" proponent, but not any more. I'm not voting for any incumbents or any republicans for the foreseeable future. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 12:26:08 PM EDT
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Quoted: In the past, it was Dem vs. Rep and people commonly preached that we needed to prop the Rep up because...while they might not have been pro-constitution (specifically with the 2nd), at least they weren't the Dem who was in clear opposition to more than just the 2nd. But now we've been shown as clear as I can tell, that the swamp is the swamp and BOTH are evil. In 2-4 or 8 years....do we go back to blindly voting for whatever Republican (if it is still legal and an option to do so) or do we vote "none of the above"/stay home? Personally, after seeing the integrity of the electoral process so badly compromised, it'd take a LOT to convince me to vote again. Not trying to start a movement or have anyone join me....just how I feel. The lesser of 2 evils is still evil and most of the Republicans feed at the trough w/ the Democrats after the Ds have had their fill. I'm not going to quit voting, but Mr Ed may get more votes. |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 12:26:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In my opinion if you don't vote you have no voice in anything, you are a looser if you don't vote, you have no right to bitch if you don't vote. And your opinion is wrong. If these people govern me, I have a right to bitch whether I voted or not. I also get to bitch about the people responsible for voting for these fuckers because it's their fault. Not mine, I didn't choose them. |
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