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Posted: 1/20/2021 9:08:35 AM EDT
In the past, it was Dem vs. Rep and people commonly preached that we needed to prop the Rep up because...while they might not have been pro-constitution (specifically with the 2nd), at least they weren't the Dem who was in clear opposition to more than just the 2nd.  But now we've been shown as clear as I can tell, that the swamp is the swamp and BOTH are evil.  

In 2-4 or 8 years....do we go back to blindly voting for whatever Republican (if it is still legal and an option to do so) or do we vote "none of the above"/stay home?  

Personally, after seeing the integrity of the electoral process so badly compromised, it'd take a LOT to convince me to vote again.  Not trying to start a movement or have anyone join me....just how I feel.  


Link Posted: 1/20/2021 9:09:34 AM EDT
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I am finally coming around to the truth that being forced to choose between the lesser of two evils, is really no choice at all.
Link Posted: 1/20/2021 9:10:54 AM EDT
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I am voting for the most socialist first, totalitarian second.
Link Posted: 1/20/2021 9:11:08 AM EDT
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The republicans will NEVER win another election....... I do not believe that has registered with many people...this election changed everything.  Socialism is here folks....the country is over....
Link Posted: 1/20/2021 9:13:14 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/20/2021 9:13:34 AM EDT
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It won't matter much if there's still mass mail-in voting, no id required to vote, dominion machines, and importing hordes of 3rd worlders and sticking them all in purple/red states.
Link Posted: 1/20/2021 9:13:46 AM EDT
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Don't let them win by demoralizing our side into not even voting.  I get it, I really do.  But never give up, hell vote as a sign of protest.  Don't just lay down and die.

Primary out every republican that has served more than 1 term, and some newbies too.  That's the movement that needs to happen.

We need more Laurens.
Link Posted: 1/20/2021 9:13:48 AM EDT
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I could stomach the lesser of two evils for a long time.  The problem is that we found out recently that the evil is roughly equal, not lesser.
Link Posted: 1/20/2021 9:15:23 AM EDT
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You'll vote for whoever they switch your vote to.

There is no voting our way out of this.
Link Posted: 1/20/2021 9:16:48 AM EDT
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I don’t really agree with that. There will be a power vacuum in the republican party and there will be some that will rise to fill that void. The key to succeeding is going to be to hold them accountable. They have to know we will not accept lip service anymore. When they start campaigning they need to know we’re not going to accept dim-lite. If we can do that there might still be a chance.
Link Posted: 1/20/2021 9:17:02 AM EDT
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Local only. The rest doesn’t make a difference anymore.

Nationally I no longer believe I am represented by either party.

If I’m fucked either way, I might as well fuck the liars that say they represent me.
Link Posted: 1/20/2021 9:17:47 AM EDT
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When you can pause the vote, see what it takes to win, and then win. What is the point in voting ?
Link Posted: 1/20/2021 9:18:19 AM EDT
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There are these things called primary elections. Use them. Stop sending the same people to DC for 40 years straight, all the while complaining that things don’t change.
Link Posted: 1/20/2021 9:19:19 AM EDT
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I'll never vote in another US election.  Your vote does not matter, because its not about what the American people want....its about who THEY want.
Link Posted: 1/20/2021 9:19:29 AM EDT
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I hate white people and love communism vs Yes, but slower.
Link Posted: 1/20/2021 9:20:14 AM EDT
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Nope. Don’t do it.
Link Posted: 1/20/2021 9:20:29 AM EDT
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This. I mailed my voting card to RNC. I changed to Independent. If I vote, it will be Democrat. Let it burn. Maybe good can come after all is gone.
Link Posted: 1/20/2021 9:21:17 AM EDT
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I agree with everything said above. Voting simply validates their criminal activity. Its going to take a hard crash with severe repercussions and a good deal of violence and even then its too late. They wanted it - have fun.
Link Posted: 1/20/2021 9:21:17 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/20/2021 9:21:50 AM EDT
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A general election is a delaying action.  A delaying action won’t win the war, but it can prevent total defeat long enough to find a path to victory.
Link Posted: 1/20/2021 9:21:54 AM EDT
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I always tried to argue with people that said your vote doesn’t matter, that they install who they want.  But now, after seeing the horseshit that went on in this election, I can’t say I’m too excited to cast any votes for anyone ever again.
Link Posted: 1/20/2021 9:22:09 AM EDT
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The rino's are gonna miss the MAGA crowd in 2022.
Link Posted: 1/20/2021 9:22:56 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/20/2021 9:23:01 AM EDT
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I'm not wasting my time voting in our upcoming elections here in GA in 2022.
Link Posted: 1/20/2021 9:23:08 AM EDT
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If we've learned anything, it should be that votes don't matter. At least not in the current process.
Link Posted: 1/20/2021 9:23:42 AM EDT
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I don’t recall who the quote is attributed to, but:

“If voting could change anything, it would be illegal”.
Link Posted: 1/20/2021 9:24:36 AM EDT
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I dunno.

Globalist own most candidates, I think.
Link Posted: 1/20/2021 9:24:57 AM EDT
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At the present time I'm planning to just vote in state and local elections for from here on out.....Mostly for Independents.  

The possible exception would be if Rand Paul ran and somehow managed to win the GOP Primary but I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for that to happen.

I'm really looking foreword to 2022 and stiffing the fucking GOP.
Link Posted: 1/20/2021 9:24:58 AM EDT
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FWIW, the demoncrats are planning to force that on all states.  They want to make sure they stay in power, like they did from the 1930s to the 1990s.  

IF that's the case, you can pretty much forget about having fair elections at any level again.
Link Posted: 1/20/2021 9:26:11 AM EDT
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I’m going to vote for my dick. At least I know where it’s been and what it wants.
Link Posted: 1/20/2021 9:35:10 AM EDT
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Local only. The rest doesn’t make a difference anymore.

Nationally I no longer believe I am represented by either party.

If I’m fucked either way, I might as well fuck the liars that say they represent me.
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Not even local.  Where I live, it's pretty well known, that since back in the eighties, there is a group down here that controls our elections.  It was originally called "The Coast 21" and that time, it was the twenty one wealthiest people in our county, who got together and decided that they would pick the winners of every important election, and then throw all their financial weight and support to those candidates.  Among those twenty one people, were the owners of our local newspaper and television station, as well as the Presidents of our biggest local bank, and several large law firms.  They are completely apolitical, although they have "Democrats" and "Republicans" in their membership.  And, it's a lot more than twenty one people at present.  Everyone knows who they are.  They don't hide it.

Their success rate runs around 95 per cent in elections.  The person they pick gets unlimited funding, a blitz of advertising, and nothing but positive press from our paper and TV station.  I've had friends they called up, and recruited to run for office, and then papered them with cash.  It's the worst kept secret down here.

I have a hard time believing that these twenty one people in our little county, are the first ones (or only ones) to have this idea.  I really have a hard time believing that this same thing doesn't take place on a national scale.

Here is one of the members, who puts it on his advertisements. (scroll down he only  mentions it near the bottom, but he damn sure remembered to mention it.)

https://www.pmp.org/attorney-profiles/ronald-g-peresich1/

Link Posted: 1/20/2021 9:38:10 AM EDT
[#31]
I think at this point things have to get a good bit worse for enough people to realize they fucked up to start turning things around, not going to help prolong it by voting R, especially not for my dipshit republican rep who voted to impeach President Trump.
Link Posted: 1/20/2021 9:38:33 AM EDT
[#32]
If you don't vote for the lesser of the two evils, you can't bitch when the greater is elected.
Link Posted: 1/20/2021 9:38:34 AM EDT
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Hoping we will be out before gap tooth.
Link Posted: 1/20/2021 9:41:57 AM EDT
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Personally, after seeing the integrity of the electoral process so badly compromised, it'd take a LOT to convince me to vote again.  Not trying to start a movement or have anyone join me....just how I feel.  

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I've had this same conversation with several others since November.  Election integrity is the foundation of everything we have.  Once it's gone, the rule of law is gone.  And we just watched it get pissed down the drain to thunderous applause, because orange man bad and the swamp strikes back.  If the response afterwards doesn't convince you that every swinging dick on the federal level (and a non-trivial number of states), of either party and in all 3 branches, are colluding with each other in support of tyranny then I can't help you any further.

If I bother to vote again it'll be third party, random selection of independent candidate on the ballot, or write in.  My vote means nothing.  Neither does yours.
Link Posted: 1/20/2021 9:42:22 AM EDT
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I'm not wasting my time voting in our upcoming elections here in GA in 2022.

Hoping we will be out before gap tooth.

I'd like to be too.
Link Posted: 1/20/2021 9:43:31 AM EDT
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There aren't two evils.  There is one evil, with two colluding factions.
Link Posted: 1/20/2021 9:45:01 AM EDT
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Always vote. Against the MSM's golden child, every time. If Don Lemon and mika's husband like a candidate, vote the other way.

Media is getting control of our country.
Link Posted: 1/20/2021 9:46:39 AM EDT
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No they won't.  They want to be the minority party.  All the benefits, none of the blame.
Link Posted: 1/20/2021 9:46:47 AM EDT
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This thread won't age well......or is it ok to refuse the lesser of two evils now?
Link Posted: 1/20/2021 9:47:12 AM EDT
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Wrong.  voting for either makes you complicit in their actions.  

For instance, you should be held responsible for the bumpstock ban, record deficit spending and a level of socialism we haven’t seen since FDR.  After all YOU voted for it.
Link Posted: 1/20/2021 9:47:44 AM EDT
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There aren't two evils.  There is one evil, with two colluding factions.
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I could stomach the lesser of two evils for a long time.  The problem is that we found out recently that the evil is roughly equal, not lesser.


There aren't two evils.  There is one evil, with two colluding factions.



Accelerationist. And molasses speed bureaucratic.
Link Posted: 1/20/2021 9:48:31 AM EDT
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Personally, I'm done.  At this point I think it is obvious that voting really does not have any effect/power.  I truly believe we are past the Ballot box, and quit frankly any other effective civil means.  The Left simply does not play within the rules where The Constitution is the law of the land and civil society exists.





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Link Posted: 1/20/2021 9:49:42 AM EDT
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"If you are part of a society that votes, then do so. There may be no candidates and no measures you want to vote for ... but there are certain to be ones you want to vote against. In case of doubt, vote against. By this rule you will rarely go wrong." - Robert Anson Heinlein
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Link Posted: 1/20/2021 9:49:46 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/20/2021 9:50:40 AM EDT
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NOT MY GOVERMENT  
Link Posted: 1/20/2021 9:50:44 AM EDT
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The fuck you can't, I don't know where this shit comes from but it is false. If you didn't vote for either worthless fucker you can bitch all you want. Not voting for them is a vote.
Link Posted: 1/20/2021 9:50:46 AM EDT
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Guarantee in 2022 it will be back to ‘but we have to vote for cocain Mitch’ he’s the only one the MSM tells us is ElEcTaBLe!!
Link Posted: 1/20/2021 9:51:11 AM EDT
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Welcome to one party government.
Link Posted: 1/20/2021 9:51:53 AM EDT
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Guarantee in 2022 it will be back to ‘but we have to vote for cocain Mitch’ he’s the only one the MSM tells us is ElEcTaBLe!!
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Guarantee in 2022 it will be back to ‘but we have to vote for cocain Mitch’ he’s the only one the MSM tells us is ElEcTaBLe!!

"You have to vote for Kemp and Raffensperger!"
Link Posted: 1/20/2021 9:52:15 AM EDT
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voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil. If good cannot be fairly elected in this country than one should have a more honest conversation with themselves.


they don't care about your happiness, they only care about their happiness

they don't care about your financial security, they only care about their financial security

once you figure out who they are it's pretty stupid to choose them to be your leader

if we can figure a non bias voting system maybe we don't need all the political representatives to begin with, people like voting in american idol via phone and text, maybe the better focus would be to primary the people tabulating the votes.
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