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Posted: 1/24/2023 8:02:22 PM EST
https://wtop.com/virginia/2023/01/gun-owners-in-virginia-urged-to-lock-it-up/


Under the legislation, adults would need to store their guns “in a locked container, compartment or cabinet,” if anyone under 18-years-old is in the home.

Ammunition would need to be “in a separate locked container, compartment or cabinet,” and the key or combination to the containers would need to be “inaccessible to any minor.”

Those who violate the rule could be charged with a misdemeanor for each gun that is not in a locked containe
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 8:04:05 PM EST
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Hopefully this won’t make it out of the general assembly.
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 8:04:57 PM EST
[#2]
Isn't that just a plain violation of Heller?
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 8:05:10 PM EST
[#3]
At the rate things are going California gun owners are going to win back their gun rights about the same time as a bunch of other states lose theirs.
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 8:07:51 PM EST
[#4]
Wait.. people leave their firearms laying around where minors can get them?

Link Posted: 1/24/2023 8:09:42 PM EST
[#5]
As soon as the criminals do it….
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 8:10:23 PM EST
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Originally Posted By emsjeep:
Isn't that just a plain violation of Heller?
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The democrats have been outwardly defiant of Bruen, why would they give a fuck about Heller?

And yes, it is.
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 8:12:01 PM EST
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Originally Posted By himajin1:

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Unfortunately they do. Even here, people think locked up when not on you is an extreme position.
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 8:12:21 PM EST
[#8]
"Bring it, cocksuckers!"

Ambridge77

"Jail is easier than working for a living.
 We get to sleep late.  A lot of books
 to read.  GREAT chess players.  Food
 has much to offer, though."

Fuck you, you stupid cocksucking VA 'rats.



Link Posted: 1/24/2023 8:12:21 PM EST
[#9]
how would they find out?
Door to door searches?

LOL, this is a feel good BS law....which I am sure they will abuse.
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 8:13:07 PM EST
[#10]
Welcome to my world and not that I totally obey it, but my wife ran a day care in our house for the last 20 years.   She is finally getting away from it thank God.   Washington state rules on not just a locked-up gun, but tons of other stupid shit only liberal hens in a think tank can come up with.  

Link Posted: 1/24/2023 8:18:54 PM EST
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Originally Posted By JimmyAR:
Welcome to my world and not that I totally obey it, but my wife ran a day care in our house for the last 20 years.   She is finally getting away from it thank God.   Washington state rules on not just a locked-up gun, but tons of other stupid shit only liberal hens in a think tank can come up with.  

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You have my understanding.  I didn't comprehend until
my state became more like your state, and I'm sorry
for not getting it sooner.  I'd rent y'all a house if I had one.


Link Posted: 1/24/2023 8:19:36 PM EST
[#12]
I don't think I'm going to let you arrest me today sheriff Behan.
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 8:22:12 PM EST
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Originally Posted By TruckinAR:
how would they find out?
Door to door searches?

LOL, this is a feel good BS law....which I am sure they will abuse.
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When the toddler shoots the other toddler with dads “I thought it was empty” sigma and mom calls 911 screaming.
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 8:23:15 PM EST
[#14]
What you do in your own home is none of their damn business!
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 8:26:03 PM EST
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how would they find out?
Door to door searches?

LOL, this is a feel good BS law....which I am sure they will abuse.
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Nah, they going to charge the fuck out of the stupid people who are negligent with their firearms.

Even when I lived in New Mexico my shit was always locked up. Even my carry piece was in a nightstand safe ready if needed.
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 8:27:06 PM EST
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Originally Posted By insider:
What you do in your own home is none of their damn business!
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Will you say this when a child of yours is shot at a friends house? I doubt it.
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 8:32:09 PM EST
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Knee jerk reaction.  A couple weeks ago a six year old from a vibrant part of the state took a pistol to school and shot his teacher.
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 8:33:15 PM EST
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the gov has no right to regulate how you store guns in your own house.

While I personally agree if you have small children around, or kids from friends/neighbors they should be locked up, I don't believe the gov should have any say in it.

But welcome to Oregon, where we hav3 storage laws.  Oh, and if a gun is stolen and you don't report it, guess who the felon is?
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 8:33:16 PM EST
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My child doesn’t have friends here because I won’t let them hang out with kids who have progressive parents.
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 8:34:16 PM EST
[#20]
Sounds like California
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 8:34:22 PM EST
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Originally Posted By StevenH:


Unfortunately they do. Even here, people think locked up when not on you is an extreme position.
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Originally Posted By StevenH:
Originally Posted By himajin1:

Wait.. people leave their firearms laying around where minors can get them?



Unfortunately they do. Even here, people think locked up when not on you is an extreme position.
Because it is.

Link Posted: 1/24/2023 8:34:44 PM EST
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Originally Posted By emsjeep:
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Exception for "on or about their person"
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 8:38:38 PM EST
[#23]
Most people keep guns for self defense

Keeping the guns and ammo separate is 100% stupid.

"Hold on Mr. Intruder Rapist, I need to access two safes really quick!"
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 8:40:59 PM EST
[#24]
Unconstitutional under Heller
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 8:41:40 PM EST
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Pretty much everything is. Even the circuit courts ignored Heller. Can’t really expect the states not to.
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 8:42:33 PM EST
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Originally Posted By laxman09:
Most people keep guns for self defense

Keeping the guns and ammo separate is 100% stupid.

"Hold on Mr. Intruder Rapist, I need to access two safes really quick!"
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Agreed.

Fully loaded, safety on, but in locked cabinet unless on me. Takes less than 2-seconds to unlock.

Link Posted: 1/24/2023 8:42:41 PM EST
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But VA has a GOP Governor and House, so won't pass.
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 8:43:05 PM EST
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Will you say this when a child of yours is shot at a friends house? I doubt it.
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Originally Posted By insider:
What you do in your own home is none of their damn business!


Will you say this when a child of yours is shot at a friends house? I doubt it.


Government force is great, right?
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 8:44:52 PM EST
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Originally Posted By himajin1:


Nah, they going to charge the fuck out of the stupid people who are negligent with their firearms.

Even when I lived in New Mexico my shit was always locked up. Even my carry piece was in a nightstand safe ready if needed.
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We here in Va appreciate and note your concern. However we live a different life than those of you out west. Such laws are not conducive to our way of life. We can sort our own things out.
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 8:44:53 PM EST
[#30]
Lock up criminals.
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 8:45:09 PM EST
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I could see a compromise on this bill passing
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 8:46:24 PM EST
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Lock up criminals.
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Attachment Attached File
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 8:46:48 PM EST
[#33]
Falls into the category of will not comply. Thank goodness the black face baby killer and the commie asshole are not in office.
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 8:47:26 PM EST
[#34]
Excuse me good sir, I know you and your band of friends just broke into my home and have baseball bats but I will need to check your state issued IDs to determine if I should go lock up my gun.
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 8:47:54 PM EST
[#35]
We really need to work on repealing any protections from civil rights law suits against politicians.

I'd prefer criminal charges, but one step at a time.
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 8:52:22 PM EST
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Assault weapons ban advances in the Virginia state Senate; will face an uphill battle in the House
Sen. Creigh Deeds sponsored legislation that would ban assault weapons manufactured after June 2023 and raise the age to buy from 18 to 21.
a Democratic-controlled Senate committee on Monday passed a slate of gun bills aimed at keeping dangerous firearms out of the hands of people who could potentially inflict harm on others.

By a 9-6 party line vote, the Senate Judiciary Committee backed legislation that would ban the new sale and possession of assault weapons manufactured after July 1, 2023. Sponsored by Sen. Creigh Deeds, D-Charlottesville, Senate Bill 1382 would also raise the age to buy an assault weapon manufactured before the bill’s effective date from 18 to 21.

By the same party-line vote, the panel also voted in favor of legislation that would prohibit the carrying of certain semi-automatic center-fire rifles, pistols and shotguns in most public places. Under current law, the current prohibition applies to a narrower range of firearms, only in certain localities, and only when such firearms are loaded.

The committee further backed a proposal making a Class 1 misdemeanor – punishable as a Class 4 felony for a second or subsequent offense – for anyone to knowingly sell, offer to sell, transfer, or purchase an unfinished frame or receiver, referring to a weapon that has not yet reached a stage of manufacture that meets the definition of “firearm frame” or “receiver” according to the Gun Control Act (GCA). Exceptions apply for serial-stamped firearms sold by importers, dealers or manufacturers.

https://cardinalnews.org/2023/01/23/assault-weapons-ban-advances-in-the-virginia-state-senate-will-face-an-uphill-battle-in-the-house/
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 8:52:46 PM EST
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Will you say this when a child of yours is shot at a friends house? I doubt it.
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Originally Posted By himajin1:
Originally Posted By insider:
What you do in your own home is none of their damn business!


Will you say this when a child of yours is shot at a friends house? I doubt it.

Here's an idea big brain.  Lock up your shit when your kids friends are over.

I raised my kids right and they have had guns around them from day 1.  

I took the mysticism out of the equation and have never had an issue.  They were tought right.  

People didn't keep their guns in safes 100 years ago because children were raised right.  Hiding something from children is a 100% way for their curious little minds to get into trouble.
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 8:53:31 PM EST
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I could tell you how much I care about any state or federal issues against the 2A but it would be pretty short, something like this....................................................................................................................................................................................
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 8:53:33 PM EST
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Will you say this when a child of yours is shot at a friends house? I doubt it.
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Originally Posted By himajin1:
Originally Posted By insider:
What you do in your own home is none of their damn business!


Will you say this when a child of yours is shot at a friends house? I doubt it.


Just to put your mind at ease, I checked on my daughters. Both of them have all their guns locked up, except the ones on display in their rooms.

All is well.
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 8:57:16 PM EST
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Virginia bill could place three-day waiting period on gun purchases

House Bill 2273 is working its way through the General Assembly.

The bill, proposed by Del. Cliff Hayes Jr., would place a three-day waiting period on gun purchases. The waiting period starts when a buyer completes a consent form to allow a criminal history record check.

There are a few exceptions. For example, the waiting period wouldn’t apply to law enforcement, gun dealers, or the purchase of antique firearms.
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 9:00:14 PM EST
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If you put them where minors can't get them then you can't get to them then neither can you if you need it in a hurry.

You don't kid proof your guns. You gun proof your kids by teaching them right from wrong and how to safely use them.
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 9:06:26 PM EST
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Originally Posted By piccolo:



If you put them where minors can't get them then you can't get to them then neither can you if you need it in a hurry.

You don't kid proof your guns. You gun proof your kids by teaching them right from wrong and how to safely use them.
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Exactly as I grew up.

I was a latchkey kid. I could protect myself from ~10+.
There is no way I would leave my daughter alone in the house without a way to protect herself.
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 9:06:30 PM EST
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The Democratic led Senate Judiciary panel voted down a bill from Republican Sen. Mark Obenshain that would have limited a 2020 law allowing localities some ability to create gun-free zones. Obenshain argued the law is in direct conflict with a U.S. Supreme Court ruling last year.
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 9:07:16 PM EST
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How do they plan to enforce this? Periodoc spot checks?
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 9:11:12 PM EST
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Some of your fellow California neighbors are already here agreeing with it.
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 9:13:33 PM EST
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Originally Posted By JBT:
Virginia bill could place three-day waiting period on gun purchases

House Bill 2273 is working its way through the General Assembly.

The bill, proposed by Del. Cliff Hayes Jr., would place a three-day waiting period on gun purchases. The waiting period starts when a buyer completes a consent form to allow a criminal history record check.

There are a few exceptions. For example, the waiting period wouldn’t apply to law enforcement, gun dealers, or the purchase of antique firearms.
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So far 14 democrat sponsors and no republicans.    The Republicans control the house by 4 votes.  Unless you have 4 go with the dems should this not fail to advance?
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 9:14:32 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Type7SOT:
How do they plan to enforce this? Periodoc spot checks?
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Timmy goes to school, says something about guns. Teacher tells principal, principal calls local police, local poloce get a warrant, search the house, bam.
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 9:20:29 PM EST
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I do a lot of that already, voluntarily.  And even I chafe at the thought of it being a law.

Liberty is inherently dangerous, but preferable to the "safety" of subjugation.
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 9:21:28 PM EST
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Indeed they do.  

I hate this bill but I don't hate pushing this as a best practice for responsible gun owners.
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 9:22:07 PM EST
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It looks like you are from California. Thank you for your input.
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