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Link Posted: 12/14/2018 3:09:41 PM EDT
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And this time America will get it right.

What's funny is, if those same people that are saying what a mistake it was to give up their guns would vote for the same damn thing again if they were allowed to immigrate to the United States.
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There are MILLIONS of Americans who support an outright gun ban.....
Venezuela is their openly stated model for how they want America to go.  Civilian disarmament, socialism, big brother dystopia.
And this time America will get it right.

What's funny is, if those same people that are saying what a mistake it was to give up their guns would vote for the same damn thing again if they were allowed to immigrate to the United States.
They wouldn't but their kids would, and the grandkids would be the ones taking them. Public school is a MF'er.
Link Posted: 12/14/2018 3:09:48 PM EDT
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No, he was talking about a time machine from Command and Conquer

...right?
Link Posted: 12/14/2018 3:09:49 PM EDT
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This is the fate of suckers.

America is so full of suckers.. slowly but surely
Link Posted: 12/14/2018 3:09:55 PM EDT
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Want to turn this back on the left?

Allow caravan families from Venezuela entry into the US, citing their having suffered a breach of their human rights due to the country's outright gun ban.

Let's see how the Liberal media spins that fucker!
Link Posted: 12/14/2018 3:10:29 PM EDT
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Which is why I've decided to not give up shit and go down (so to speak) swinging.    

just sayin'
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This, and fuck burying guns, if it’s time to bury it it’s time to use it!
Link Posted: 12/14/2018 3:10:42 PM EDT
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How did they find soldiers and police to enforce this?
Link Posted: 12/14/2018 3:10:58 PM EDT
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"Venezuelans didn't care enough about it. The idea of having the means to protect your home was seen as only needed out in the fields. People never would have believed they needed to defend themselves against the government," Vanegas explained. "Venezuelans evolved to always hope that our government would be non-tyrannical, non-violator of human rights, and would always have a good enough control of criminality."
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This was the quote that stuck out to me.  And this same attitude is the one that is carried by many in this country, especially among millennials and younger who have not been exposed to guns in any positive way nor had a viable history education.  Considering the sheer numbers of those groups, the fate of Venezuela is not out of the realm of possibility here in the next twenty years.
Link Posted: 12/14/2018 3:12:14 PM EDT
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Communists have a saying, “Capitalists will sell you the rope to hang them with.” It’s true.
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We'll see how serious we take groups like ANTIFA then.
Link Posted: 12/14/2018 3:12:43 PM EDT
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people here, on this site keep saying that it'll never happen here. that we'd all die trying if we fought to protect our rights. Well, better to die trying than to witness it happen and have to live in the aftermath. Just ask a Venezuelan
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I can't give up hate chicken or PSA daily deals....
Link Posted: 12/14/2018 3:13:16 PM EDT
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But the 2nd admendment is about hunting deer?!?
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Yes dear
Link Posted: 12/14/2018 3:14:08 PM EDT
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It's amazing how they all follow the basic same pattern.
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It's happening right now, right in plain sight.
Link Posted: 12/14/2018 3:14:42 PM EDT
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"Venezuelans didn't care enough about it. The idea of having the means to protect your home was seen as only needed out in the fields. People never would have believed they needed to defend themselves against the government," Vanegas explained. "Venezuelans evolved to always hope that our government would be non-tyrannical, non-violator of human rights, and would always have a good enough control of criminality."
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Well, I guess now they’ll get to see how evolution actually works.
Link Posted: 12/14/2018 3:15:03 PM EDT
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History keeps showing us what happens, we don't fucking listen.
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We do listen its the useful idiots, no info voters and progressives who dont
Link Posted: 12/14/2018 3:16:25 PM EDT
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I can't give up hate chicken or PSA daily deals....
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people here, on this site keep saying that it'll never happen here. that we'd all die trying if we fought to protect our rights. Well, better to die trying than to witness it happen and have to live in the aftermath. Just ask a Venezuelan
I can't give up hate chicken or PSA daily deals....
as if either would exist in the aftermath.
Link Posted: 12/14/2018 3:16:42 PM EDT
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Duh. Ray Charles and all that

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coming to a North American country near you. (If the Left succeeds)
Link Posted: 12/14/2018 3:19:40 PM EDT
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They need a helicopter ride.
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There are MILLIONS of Americans who support an outright gun ban.....
They need a helicopter ride.
Pinochet was lucky his goons had an unarmed populace to prey upon.

In this thread, gun owners advocate government brutality against disarmed political enemies, in order to avoid government brutality as political enemies
Link Posted: 12/14/2018 3:21:24 PM EDT
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Communists have a saying, “Capitalists will sell you the rope to hang them with.” It’s true.
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Sounds like the same people who say things like "I don't care if the government spies on me and knows everything about me. I'm an angel and a saint and have nothing to hide! Besides, a tiny bit of convenience is worth giving the government complete and total power over everyone."

GD is full of them
Communists have a saying, “Capitalists will sell you the rope to hang them with.” It’s true.
but only because Communists can’t make anything themselves
Link Posted: 12/14/2018 3:23:59 PM EDT
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Why even bother posting this?
So many members don't seem to be doing jack about our own 2nd Amendment Liberties, why should they care about Venezuela or use it as springboard to muster our own?

Better off posting a thread about how to properly melt down firearms and turn them into a sculpture of a gun owner with their head buried in the sand.

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"But I was an NRA life member"

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And here you are bitching about gun rights on the largest gun forum on the internet.

Link Posted: 12/14/2018 3:36:03 PM EDT
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That's why the Libs want all guns banned so when their in power they have all the guns'
Link Posted: 12/14/2018 3:39:46 PM EDT
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"Venezuelans didn't care enough about it. The idea of having the means to protect your home was seen as only needed out in the fields. People never would have believed they needed to defend themselves against the government," Vanegas explained. "Venezuelans evolved to always hope that our government would be non-tyrannical, non-violator of human rights, and would always have a good enough control of criminality."
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Morons got what they deserved.
Link Posted: 12/14/2018 3:46:44 PM EDT
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No, he was talking about a time machine from Command and Conquer

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No, he was talking about a time machine from Command and Conquer

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C+C Music Factory - Things That Make You Go Hmmmm.... (Video Version) ft. Freedom Williams
Link Posted: 12/14/2018 3:49:40 PM EDT
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Changed it somewhat.

Then again, the government troops have what the populace wants. I suppose if they want them bad enough then one will get you two then four then eight and so on.
Link Posted: 12/14/2018 3:51:18 PM EDT
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People never would have believed they needed to defend themselves against the government
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People never would have believed they needed to defend themselves against the government
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People never would have believed they needed to defend themselves against the government
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People never would have believed they needed to defend themselves against the government
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People never would have believed they needed to defend themselves against the government
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People never would have believed they needed to defend themselves against the government
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Link Posted: 12/14/2018 3:55:14 PM EDT
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How did they find soldiers and police to enforce this?
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Maduro has a huge cadre of loyal supporters that garner favoritism to get shit done for him just like any despot.
Link Posted: 12/14/2018 3:56:51 PM EDT
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Ain't nobody gonna do anything. Nobody's gonna pop p mags. There Just gonna pop the button on their pants, bend over and take it in the ass.

I do feel that the ATF will be abolished one day tho..... When they take away all legal guns and there is no reason to keep them around.
Link Posted: 12/14/2018 3:57:21 PM EDT
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We do listen its the useful idiots, no info voters and progressives who dont
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I just hope when it's time, all of us remember there are plenty of like minded thinkers out there.

The shot that heard around the world.
Link Posted: 12/14/2018 4:00:58 PM EDT
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people here, on this site keep saying that it'll never happen here. that we'd all die trying if we fought to protect our rights. Well, better to die trying than to witness it happen and have to live in the aftermath. Just ask a Venezuelan
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Better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Link Posted: 12/14/2018 4:02:02 PM EDT
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Welcome to Socialism!
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Diet Coke of Communism
Link Posted: 12/14/2018 4:09:39 PM EDT
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people here, on this site keep saying that it'll never happen here. that we'd all die trying if we fought to protect our rights. Well, better to die trying than to witness it happen and have to live in the aftermath. Just ask a Venezuelan
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One characteristic of Anglo Saxon culture has been a strong defense of rights, such that the Glorious Revolution and American Revolution were fought when the people felt the King was in violation of their rights. In both cases, as with Texas later, they were quick to fight for their rights over government over reach, not waiting until things actually got bad--when it is too late.

The question is if the culture still has that characteristic. There will always be wanabe dictators. There usually isn't the type of culture it takes o stand up against them.
Link Posted: 12/14/2018 5:03:37 PM EDT
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Pinochet was lucky his goons had an unarmed populace to prey upon.

In this thread, gun owners advocate government brutality against disarmed political enemies, in order to avoid government brutality as political enemies
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There are MILLIONS of Americans who support an outright gun ban.....
They need a helicopter ride.
Pinochet was lucky his goons had an unarmed populace to prey upon.

In this thread, gun owners advocate government brutality against disarmed political enemies, in order to avoid government brutality as political enemies
You don't make very much sense. What do you mean?

Pinochet was a Chilean Army General who staged a coup against leftist/communist Salvador Allende who was going to turn
Chile into a hellhole just like every other communist hellhole. He went after the communists and anyone who was sympathetic to them.

Sure, the average Chilean wasn't too happy about it, but they would have been really unhappy if Allende would have maintained power.
Link Posted: 12/14/2018 5:07:00 PM EDT
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Duh. Ray Charles and all that

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A former gun store owner inside Venezuela – who told Fox News he has now been relegated to only selling fishing supplies since the ban – said he can’t sell any type of weaponry - even a slingshot - and underscored that even BB ammunition and airsoft guns are only issued to police and military officers.

The punishment for illicit carrying or selling a weapon now is 20 years behind bars.
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Pretty sure there were enough libtards in high positions to push that legislation through the Venezuelan government.
Link Posted: 12/14/2018 5:08:44 PM EDT
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History is cyclical
Link Posted: 12/14/2018 5:12:21 PM EDT
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I’d be down to buy a Venezuelan FAL.
Link Posted: 12/14/2018 5:13:09 PM EDT
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2A is the insurance policy to all your other rights.  Throw your AR away and you might as well toss all your other rights in the barrel along with it.
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He is right you know. Venezuela is just the most recent proof of this.
Link Posted: 12/14/2018 5:16:02 PM EDT
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Shocking

Link Posted: 12/14/2018 5:16:25 PM EDT
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Pinochet was lucky his goons had an unarmed populace to prey upon.

In this thread, gun owners advocate government brutality against disarmed political enemies, in order to avoid government brutality as political enemies filthy communist subversives bent on the overthrow of the Constitution.
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Link Posted: 12/14/2018 5:17:11 PM EDT
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Nothing new here.

Armed men are citizens; unarmed men are subjects
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True dat !!!

ETA: So with that in mind what will it be ?

Subject on your knees and defenseless

or

Citizen and armed with a very convincing vote

Patrick Henry summed it up:

" Give me Freedom or..................
Link Posted: 12/16/2018 5:42:47 AM EDT
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There will be 100 threads on here telling you "it's the wrong fight" and "Is this the hill you want to die on?" and "it's just a range toy, who really cares?".
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Bump stocks ARE just a range toy.  How reliable are those going to be in urban combat toe-to-toe with the commies?

If you want full auto, then drill that third hole.  Don't be a pussy.
Link Posted: 12/16/2018 5:54:40 AM EDT
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Ain't nobody gonna do anything. Nobody's gonna pop p mags. There Just gonna pop the button on their pants, bend over and take it in the ass.

I do feel that the ATF will be abolished one day tho..... When they take away all legal guns and there is no reason to keep them around.
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You need to get out of your cold Liberal stronghold more, my fellow Dec. '08'er. Nobody around HERE giving up shit, men OR women.
Link Posted: 12/16/2018 6:22:01 AM EDT
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Absolutely, especially imagining the exact same scenario here.
Link Posted: 12/16/2018 6:44:48 AM EDT
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Better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
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people here, on this site keep saying that it'll never happen here. that we'd all die trying if we fought to protect our rights. Well, better to die trying than to witness it happen and have to live in the aftermath. Just ask a Venezuelan
Better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
It is better to live on your feet than to die on your knees is how this should read.
Link Posted: 12/16/2018 6:46:15 AM EDT
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Americans expecting judges to save us are going to be equally sorry.
Link Posted: 12/16/2018 7:00:30 AM EDT
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I need to hide more guns.....
Link Posted: 12/16/2018 7:28:50 AM EDT
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You don't make very much sense. What do you mean?

Pinochet was a Chilean Army General who staged a coup against leftist/communist Salvador Allende who was going to turn
Chile into a hellhole just like every other communist hellhole. He went after the communists and anyone who was sympathetic to them.

Sure, the average Chilean wasn't too happy about it, but they would have been really unhappy if Allende would have maintained power.
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There are MILLIONS of Americans who support an outright gun ban.....
They need a helicopter ride.
Pinochet was lucky his goons had an unarmed populace to prey upon.

In this thread, gun owners advocate government brutality against disarmed political enemies, in order to avoid government brutality as political enemies
You don't make very much sense. What do you mean?

Pinochet was a Chilean Army General who staged a coup against leftist/communist Salvador Allende who was going to turn
Chile into a hellhole just like every other communist hellhole. He went after the communists and anyone who was sympathetic to them.

Sure, the average Chilean wasn't too happy about it, but they would have been really unhappy if Allende would have maintained power.
Don't forget the part where the Chilean congress begged him to do it.
Link Posted: 12/16/2018 7:37:19 AM EDT
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Register the guns, take the guns, kill the citizens.

Seems like a pattern.
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No kidding.

As it says in the article almost all of the filings were taken via confiscation and many appear to have complied.

Then the government turns around and sells them to gangs who enforce the communist rule and violence skyrockets without anyone legally being able to fight back.

Holy shit.
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No kidding.

As it says in the article almost all of the filings were taken via confiscation and many appear to have complied.

Then the government turns around and sells them to gangs who enforce the communist rule and violence skyrockets without anyone legally being able to fight back.

Holy shit.
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Register the guns, take the guns, kill the citizens.

Seems like a pattern.
No kidding.

As it says in the article almost all of the filings were taken via confiscation and many appear to have complied.

Then the government turns around and sells them to gangs who enforce the communist rule and violence skyrockets without anyone legally being able to fight back.

Holy shit.
The DUmbocrats already have their thugs ready in antifa and black lives matter. Only reason these assholes have not gone after most citizens is many of us are armed.
Link Posted: 12/16/2018 7:47:43 AM EDT
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One must always remember the purpose of the 2a is to shoot motherfuckers in the motherfucking face if they start acting like tyrants. Not for your shitty little o/u dove hunting shotgun.
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Yes.  I've offered people in the past $100 if they can show me where in the Constitution it mentions hunting AT ALL.  Nobody has taken me up on that yet.
Link Posted: 12/16/2018 7:49:55 AM EDT
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Ain't nobody gonna do anything. Nobody's gonna pop p mags. There Just gonna pop the button on their pants, bend over and take it in the ass.

I do feel that the ATF will be abolished one day tho..... When they take away all legal guns and there is no reason to keep them around.
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yep.
Link Posted: 12/16/2018 7:53:24 AM EDT
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... dental plans
Link Posted: 12/16/2018 7:55:32 AM EDT
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... dental plans
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How did they find soldiers and police to enforce this?
... dental plans
Genuinely? A shitty little bag of groceries. No lie. Small bag of rice, small bottle of oil, roll of TP, small bag of flour.

As pathetic as the adherents to socialism are stupid.
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