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Posted: 4/9/2021 7:25:15 PM EDT
If you haven't seen this yet, you should. It's on Amazon prime.
 Unknown Soldier – Official Trailer |
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Posted: 4/9/2021 7:34:51 PM EDT
[#1]
I'd been meaning to see that, but had forgotten it's name. Thanks!
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Posted: 4/9/2021 7:36:02 PM EDT
[#2]
I have the novel but haven't cracked it open yet. A local Finn I know told me that the kids are required to read it in school. When their WW II vets were still alive, they used to shower them with honor and gratitude.
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Posted: 4/9/2021 7:40:12 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd been meaning to see that, but had forgotten it's name. Thanks! 
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Posted: 4/9/2021 7:40:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have the novel but haven't cracked it open yet. A local Finn I know told me that the kids are required to read it in school. When their WW II vets were still alive, they used to shower them with honor and gratitude. I've got it in a box with other books too. Once I ever get unpacked and find it I need to read it too. |
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Posted: 4/9/2021 7:43:34 PM EDT
[#5]
Thanks OP. I much prefer foreign movies.
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Posted: 4/9/2021 8:05:19 PM EDT
[#6]
It's really good, well worth watching.
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Posted: 4/9/2021 8:49:11 PM EDT
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"Frozen hell" is a good non fiction book on subject
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Posted: 4/9/2021 9:20:43 PM EDT
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My parents are Hungarian and we spoke/speak it at their home. It’s interesting to hear Finnish because it, like Hungarian, is part of the Finni-Ugrian languages and it sounds “familiar” even though I don’t understand it.
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Posted: 4/10/2021 1:17:39 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: "Frozen hell" is a good non fiction book on subject +1. |
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Posted: 4/10/2021 1:22:05 PM EDT
[#10]
I thought the 1955 version was good too if you can find it.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Unknown_Soldier_(1955_film) |
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Posted: 4/10/2021 1:36:43 PM EDT
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Quoted: If you haven't seen this yet, you should. It's on Amazon prime.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTYesNj_sBg Got to watch this movie....Thanks OP |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 11:33:06 AM EDT
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watched it last night. great movie. most of the characters are based on real individuals of the Karelian Battalion
most of these men lived in the area that they were fighting for, their homes had been seized by Soviet forces during the Winter War. the character of Rokka is based on Viljam Pylkäs. the guy killed 83 Soviet soldiers with a Suomi SMG in his famed encounter http://www.ww2incolor.com/finnish_forces/Pylk__s.html Viljam Pylkäs (1912–1999) mostly known for his heroic act during Continuation War, when he repelled an enemy assault, killing atleast 83 of the attackers alone. He is the model for hero character "Rokka" of the book and movies "Tuntematon Sotilas"(Unknown Soldier) |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 11:40:10 AM EDT
[#13]
I'll have to watch it later. I thought I had already saw it, but from watching the trailer I haven't. I saw another somewhat recent Finnish WWII movie that was decent. The name of which escapes me. Also, another one that I can't recall the name of, a movie from a Hungarian soldier's perspective on the Eastern Front. Both were on YouTube.
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Posted: 4/14/2021 11:42:02 AM EDT
[#14]
Thanks Op
Someone mentioned it here awhile ago, but I couldn’t find it available anywhere at the time. |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 11:55:03 AM EDT
[#15]
also this is the second Finnish war movie I've seen where they appear to be blowing the fuck out of the forest for real
there is a scene in it where some of the soldiers are taking cover behind a boulder during an arty strike and you can see wood fragments hitting the moss on the rock. damn. a lot of the forest fighting scenes look like the area I live in, down to the underbrush and ground cover the scene fighting the T-34s in the forest was very well done with the tank just busting over logs and debris to try and get through |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 1:05:59 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: also this is the second Finnish war movie I've seen where they appear to be blowing the fuck out of the forest for real there is a scene in it where some of the soldiers are taking cover behind a boulder during an arty strike and you can see wood fragments hitting the moss on the rock. damn. a lot of the forest fighting scenes look like the area I live in, down to the underbrush and ground cover the scene fighting the T-34s in the forest was very well done with the tank just busting over logs and debris to try and get through The artillery was really done. as were the sounds for the shooting (especially with good headphones on) |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 1:06:57 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'll have to watch it later. I thought I had already saw it, but from watching the trailer I haven't. I saw another somewhat recent Finnish WWII movie that was decent. The name of which escapes me. Also, another one that I can't recall the name of, a movie from a Hungarian soldier's perspective on the Eastern Front. Both were on YouTube. If you can find this one Id love to watch it. |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 1:22:15 PM EDT
[#18]
I've posted a few times with lists of very good Finnish war movies
Found out about this one too late to get on it as an extra, sadly. Know a few of the blokes that were in it (extras, not main cast) Also - as per normal for Scotland - there was as UK Premier of the movie when it was released at a small Film Festival in Glasgow. Next to zero publicity, I literally found out about the film the day of the festival, but it had sold out. The director was there for the premier as were about 4 or 5 of the main cast Been doing Finnish portrayal as a re-enactor for a few years now. It's a very great period in Finnish history and too overlooked in the rest of the world, the sacrifices they made; hence a small attempt to educate a few folk on what went on & how "Uncle Joe" was not a cuddly peace loving communist victim of Hitlers expansionist policy. |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 1:26:54 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: also this is the second Finnish war movie I've seen where they appear to be blowing the fuck out of the forest for real there is a scene in it where some of the soldiers are taking cover behind a boulder during an arty strike and you can see wood fragments hitting the moss on the rock. damn. a lot of the forest fighting scenes look like the area I live in, down to the underbrush and ground cover the scene fighting the T-34s in the forest was very well done with the tank just busting over logs and debris to try and get through Last time I was in Finland I made it out east to savonlinna and close to joensuu. The forests are thick, the ground is soft with plenty of undergrowth. it would make for some close combat and You can easily stack trees in your line of sight for concealment. For the filming there is no shortage of remote, wilderness in many parts of Finland to use. |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 1:28:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The artillery was really done. as were the sounds for the shooting (especially with good headphones on) one of the scenes has spent 9mm cases from a Suomi hitting the camera lens and yes like you said you can tell the sounds are not post production, there is a lot of variation in pitch and the difference in report in forest area vs clearing is very distinct Finland definitely does WWII movies well |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 1:34:58 PM EDT
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One of the stories from the set, was that they had a crew of guys doing nothing for the whole shoot period, apart from fill Maxim belts with ammunition using the old issue belt loading devices.
I used one of those gizmos at a WW2 show in 2019. It was amazing - we were giggling like schoolgirls, it was so much fun to do! |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 1:39:19 PM EDT
[#22]
I honestly didnt have high hopes for the newest, 3rd version of the Unknown Soldier, but its good.
I sent a DVD of it to LAV also, dont know if he has been able to play it. Funny thing is that the opening scene on the barracks square ( Paloaukea ), the real one is quite near to us. This is near to the city of Joensuu, mentioned above. Our kids have gone to school/day care on the old garrison grounds. We also conducted a c. 50km ruck land nav from that garrison to ours ( against an unknown time standard and followed by a HF radio transmit test, to earn our unit patch ) |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 1:40:30 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Last time I was in Finland I made it out east to savonlinna and close to joensuu. The forests are thick, the ground is soft with plenty of undergrowth. it would make for some close combat and You can easily stack trees in your line of sight for concealment. For the filming there is no shortage of remote, wilderness in many parts of Finland to use. one of the things the movie showed very well is how long it can take to cross 100yd clearing in thick forest like that and how it's almost impossible to move without exposing yourself, despite the availability of cover, since moving any distance requires climbing over treefall and small mounds, etc. and then the next thing you know there are 2-3 enemies behind a cluster of stumps that you never saw from across that clearing until you were right on top of them. having not seen any real footage of the Finnish wars before, it looked like a war being fought in my backyard 
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Posted: 4/14/2021 1:42:38 PM EDT
[#24]
Quoted: If you haven't seen this yet, you should. It's on Amazon prime.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTYesNj_sBgIt's on Prime, but is not included with Prime...you have to rent it. |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 1:44:30 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I honestly didnt have high hopes for the newest, 3rd version of the Unknown Soldier, but its good. I sent a DVD of it to LAV also, dont know if he has been able to play it. Funny thing is that the opening scene on the barracks square ( Paloaukea ), the real one is quite near to us. This is near to the city of Joensuu, mentioned above. Our kids have gone to school/day care on the old garrison grounds. We also conducted a c. 50km ruck land nav from that garrison to ours ( against an unknown time standard and followed by a HF radio transmit test, to earn our unit patch ) 
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Posted: 4/14/2021 1:46:00 PM EDT
[#26]
I've watched it. Good flick. I love Finnish war movies. They do a great job usually.
I'm gonna tell the wife it's a love story to get her to watch it. 
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Posted: 4/14/2021 1:47:25 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I've watched it. Good flick. I love Finnish war movies. They do a great job usually. I'm gonna tell the wife it's a love story to get her to watch it. Kalinka girl was smokin hot |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 3:30:04 PM EDT
[#28]
Excellent Movie
watched it twice |
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Posted: 4/15/2021 1:21:44 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If you can find this one Id love to watch it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'll have to watch it later. I thought I had already saw it, but from watching the trailer I haven't. I saw another somewhat recent Finnish WWII movie that was decent. The name of which escapes me. Also, another one that I can't recall the name of, a movie from a Hungarian soldier's perspective on the Eastern Front. Both were on YouTube. If you can find this one Id love to watch it. @NoMoAMMO Found it. It's Dear Elza. Also the "Finnish" movie I was thinking of was actually Estonian. It's 1944. |
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Posted: 4/15/2021 1:48:58 AM EDT
[#30]
Its a great flick. Didnt know Finnish cinema was so tier 1. Gonna see what else I can find.
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Posted: 4/15/2021 1:56:26 AM EDT
[#31]
Wish I could watch them but with no fast internet I cannot.
 Been finding out that some Sami relatives did fight in Norway and Finland. |
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Posted: 4/15/2021 3:40:05 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Wish I could watch them but with no fast internet I cannot. Been finding out that some Sami relatives did fight in Norway and Finland. Dang, that looks good. I haven't seen anything but the trailer yet, but they seem to have included an early war model T-34. That might be because that's the ones they had most available for filming (wonder how that happened? ), but still, nice attention to detail. |
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Posted: 4/15/2021 4:19:17 AM EDT
[#33]
Had no idea this movie existed. Thanks OP! I will watch this over dinner tomorrow night.
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Posted: 4/15/2021 4:28:10 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: also this is the second Finnish war movie I've seen where they appear to be blowing the fuck out of the forest for real there is a scene in it where some of the soldiers are taking cover behind a boulder during an arty strike and you can see wood fragments hitting the moss on the rock. damn. a lot of the forest fighting scenes look like the area I live in, down to the underbrush and ground cover the scene fighting the T-34s in the forest was very well done with the tank just busting over logs and debris to try and get through Could be a Ridley Scott situation. The forested area used for the intro battle of Gladiator was scheduled to be cut down by the forestry service, and they gave him permission to “deforest” it as much as he wanted for filming. Said Scott: “Deforest it, hell, I’ll burn the whole fuckin’ thing down.”
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Posted: 4/15/2021 4:52:14 AM EDT
[#35]
Tag
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Posted: 4/15/2021 5:02:42 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: one of the things the movie showed very well is how long it can take to cross 100yd clearing in thick forest like that and how it's almost impossible to move without exposing yourself, despite the availability of cover, since moving any distance requires climbing over treefall and small mounds, etc. and then the next thing you know there are 2-3 enemies behind a cluster of stumps that you never saw from across that clearing until you were right on top of them. having not seen any real footage of the Finnish wars before, it looked like a war being fought in my backyard http://www.willhiteweb.com/washington/fire_lookouts/tahuya/tahuya-lookout-view.jpg Makes me miss being in washington. Both of my grandparents came from finland. My grandpa fought in viipuri during the war. After shit went sideways, he came to the states with my grandma and moved to washington. Loads of finns moved to the aberdeen area, because it looked like home. Aberdeen to silverdale, and north. The area is littered with finns. Same with the upper peninsula of michigan and lake worth florida. Honestly, western finland is the last bastion of true white people. Its the actual genetic phenotype of a what people imagine a white person to be. They’ll likely stay that way too, as finns typically arent friendly to non whites and foreigners, the language is exceptionally hard (sounds like a russian/spanish mix, and sentences are formed by adding prefixes/suffixes to the starting nouns), and they value personal space/privacy/and silence. |
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Posted: 4/15/2021 5:09:24 AM EDT
[#37]
It's showing I must rent.
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Posted: 4/15/2021 5:59:36 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If you can find this one Id love to watch it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'll have to watch it later. I thought I had already saw it, but from watching the trailer I haven't. I saw another somewhat recent Finnish WWII movie that was decent. The name of which escapes me. Also, another one that I can't recall the name of, a movie from a Hungarian soldier's perspective on the Eastern Front. Both were on YouTube. If you can find this one Id love to watch it. You might care to read Goodbye Transylvania. It’s a bit of a misnomer in the subtitle “A Romanian soldier...” as he was an ethnic German but from the Székely portion of Transylvania.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/15/2021 6:09:49 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Tag |
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Posted: 4/15/2021 8:38:54 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @NoMoAMMO Found it. It's Dear Elza. Also the "Finnish" movie I was thinking of was actually Estonian. It's 1944.Thanks! |
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Posted: 4/15/2021 8:41:25 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You might care to read Goodbye Transylvania. It’s a bit of a misnomer in the subtitle “A Romanian soldier...” as he was an ethnic German but from the Székely portion of Transylvania. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/56204/6F2CED09-8270-46E7-AFA3-3A370CA45A9A_jpe-1905501.JPG Read it a few years back. I mostly read personal accounts and most of those are Eastern Front related. One of these days I'll get the new house setup so I can actually have my books out of boxes again! |
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Posted: 4/15/2021 11:56:25 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Honestly, western finland is the last bastion of true white people. Its the actual genetic phenotype of a what people imagine a white person to be. They’ll likely stay that way too, as finns typically arent friendly to non whites and foreigners, the language is exceptionally hard (sounds like a russian/spanish mix, and sentences are formed by adding prefixes/suffixes to the starting nouns), and they value personal space/privacy/and silence. Finns aren't white.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/15/2021 12:10:19 PM EDT
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We did this thread recently https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Finnish-WWII-Movie-1944-The-Final-Defense/5-2435502/
It’s been mentioned in this one but the Estonian movie 1944 has the battle of Sinimaëd Hills depicted. This is where my grandpa and great uncle fought. Stalin’s plan was to finish off the forces here and then mount an air and sea campaign to take Finland. Had the line not held,there is a good chance that Finland would also have fallen. At least something came out of it.  Attached File Attached File |
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