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Posted: 4/14/2021 2:54:05 PM EDT
[#1]
So ... what kinda ammunition was used that defeated his vest?
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Posted: 4/14/2021 2:54:43 PM EDT
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"But Mexican drug cartels aren't a problem around here." -All the liberal idiots in Union County.
I wonder how many law enforcement agencies had that crowd on their radar but let them keep on operating. |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 2:55:29 PM EDT
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If it was a soft vest, pretty much any rifle round should do it.
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Posted: 4/14/2021 2:55:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So ... what kinda ammunition was used that defeated his vest? My guess? 7.62x39 or 5.56 out of a pistol. |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 2:56:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "But Mexican drug cartels aren't a problem around here." -All the liberal idiots in Union County. I wonder how many law enforcement agencies had that crowd on their radar but let them keep on operating. |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 2:56:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So ... what kinda ammunition was used that defeated his vest? It'll probably come out that it was just a plate carrier with no plates or some old abused soft vest. |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 2:56:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So ... what kinda ammunition was used that defeated his vest? "What level Vest"? is the real question. |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 2:57:07 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/14/2021 2:58:15 PM EDT
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Somebody has been watching too much Breaking Bad.
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Posted: 4/14/2021 2:59:00 PM EDT
[#10]
Local news seems to have not gotten the memo about him kitting up to go rob/kill cartel members.
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Posted: 4/14/2021 2:59:13 PM EDT
[#11]
Yeah, that's one of the inherent risks in trying to get stuff at the gettin' place.
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Posted: 4/14/2021 3:00:36 PM EDT
[#12]
Basketball, surprising.
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Posted: 4/14/2021 3:02:15 PM EDT
[#13]
Sounds like a bunch of half-wits decided to rob the wrong people. No loss for society.
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Posted: 4/14/2021 3:04:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "But Mexican drug cartels aren't a problem around here." -All the liberal idiots in Union County. I wonder how many law enforcement agencies had that crowd on their radar but let them keep on operating. I live in Union County and this happened about 15 min from me. Anyone who says the Mexican Cartels aren't here is an idiot with their heads up their asses. Monroe NC, is a 3rd world crap hole that is over run with Mexican gangs and drugs. |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 3:04:58 PM EDT
[#15]
Is it time to riot?
Actually, I guess it's always time to riot. Disregard the question.  |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 3:05:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sounds like a bunch of half-wits decided to rob the wrong people. No loss for society. Or else someone was playing vigilante for real. |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 3:06:30 PM EDT
[#17]
That was a job for Omar Little.
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Posted: 4/14/2021 3:10:19 PM EDT
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Quoted: My teachers were never this cool? https://www.wsoctv.com/news/local/sheriff-popular-union-county-coach-killed-shootout-with-mexican-drug-cartel/P4M26CUMNVGTHPE7KRIQMQC42M/ Barney Harris was the basketball coach at Union Academy in Monroe where he was well-loved and respected, but Alamance County Sheriff Terry Johnson said there was another side to Harris that most people didn’t see -- one that was involved in the dangerous and deadly drug world. Channel 9 learned Harris and his associate Steven Alexander Stewart went to a mobile home park in Alamance County last Thursday to steal money and drugs from cartel members. According to Johnson, Harris and Stewart shot and killed an 18-year-old member of the cartel and then got into a shootout with other members of the cartel. Harris was killed in the gunfire. “Mr. Harris, he had a bulletproof vest on, but it did not work with the kind of ammunition that was used,” Johnson said. “He had gloves on, and he, they went there to do what was done except they did not think it was going to backfire on them.” Johnson said Stewart, who is from Wadesboro, survived the shooting and was arrested. He has been charged with armed robbery and murder. Harris was hired by Union Academy Charter School in July 2017 as a high school Spanish teacher and served as the head coach for the varsity men’s basketball team and varsity men’s track team. Cool? Only in temperature ..
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Posted: 4/14/2021 3:11:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That was a job for Omar Little. 
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Posted: 4/14/2021 3:12:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So ... what kinda ammunition was used that defeated his vest? Quote HistoryQuoted: So ... what kinda ammunition was used that defeated his vest? Rifle ammo against level IIIA armor is my guess. The sheriff said Harris was wearing a bulletproof vest, but it wasn’t a match for the high caliber fire power of the cartel’s guns. AR500 level IIIA armor. :quality(70):focal(-5x-5:5x5)/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/cmg/NTMEUF7NMFE4PPNW3UVO2MPZOM.jpg)
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Posted: 4/14/2021 3:17:17 PM EDT
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Our beloved coach died while murdering cartel members and attempting to steal their drugs and money. He was a fine, upstanding man and we grieve his passing.
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Posted: 4/14/2021 3:18:43 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Local news seems to have not gotten the memo about him kitting up to go rob/kill cartel members. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/398859/2270B10F-C867-4323-932B-498B10700449_png-1904664.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/398859/DD08F7DB-D689-4C44-A5FB-8CFFC99E4739_png-1904665.JPG All love, no fear, much dope |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 3:22:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Or else someone was playing vigilante for real. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Sounds like a bunch of half-wits decided to rob the wrong people. No loss for society. Or else someone was playing vigilante for real. I doubt he was playing vigilante and trying to protect the kids in his schools, considering he drove 2 hours to get to the robbery spot. |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 3:22:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I live in Union County and this happened about 15 min from me. Anyone who says the Mexican Cartels aren't here is an idiot with their heads up their asses. Monroe NC, is a 3rd world crap hole that is over run with Mexican gangs and drugs. I agree. We used to have a couple rentals out there, one near Walkup (iirc), and a few more not too far down the road. I'm pretty familiar with parts of Monroe. 
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Posted: 4/14/2021 3:23:10 PM EDT
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Talk about putting educator on a pedestal.
Robbing cartel members that other US citizens don't want to do |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 3:23:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Rifle ammo against level IIIA armor is my guess. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So ... what kinda ammunition was used that defeated his vest? Rifle ammo against level IIIA armor is my guess. Probably this or the plate carrier with no plate answer. I thought pistol caliber ammo against a real vest at first, then the rifle vs vest made sense too. Clint Smith once made the comment that you're depending on the person shooting at you to be a good enough shot to hit the vest and not miss. |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 3:24:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Or else someone was playing vigilante for real. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Sounds like a bunch of half-wits decided to rob the wrong people. No loss for society. Or else someone was playing vigilante for real. I thought vigilantes just killed the bad guys, and didn't waste their time stealing drugs.  |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 3:25:38 PM EDT
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Also, the stash of drugs and money found in that location was astonishing. Not bad for a rip off crew, but they were small fish trying to take down bigger fish.
I wonder how they figured out who was moving said drugs and money. Detectives believe Harris and Stewart had been using electronic trackers to follow members of the cartel before the shootout. :quality(70)/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/cmg/RMWPAB5YKNE5LMRAMNYQ3LEB2Q.jpg) :quality(70)/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/cmg/7PBQFV3SPJGNTMNWGJLAFUX2IA.jpg)
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Posted: 4/14/2021 3:25:46 PM EDT
[#29]
In the posted excerpt of the article it states the coaches accomplice was charged.
It does not speak of the cartel gunmen being charged. |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 3:26:53 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So ... what kinda ammunition was used that defeated his vest? Probably soft armor defeated by a rifle. |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 3:28:11 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So ... what kinda ammunition was used that defeated his vest? Probably soft body armor against rifle rounds, like AK type. Basically a piss poor sort of planning. |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 3:28:30 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/14/2021 3:29:18 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: "But Mexican drug cartels aren't a problem around here." -All the liberal idiots in Union County. I wonder how many law enforcement agencies had that crowd on their radar but let them keep on operating. They never worried about the cash in the envelopes not showing up if they keep up their end of the deal. |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 3:29:29 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Local news seems to have not gotten the memo about him kitting up to go rob/kill cartel members. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/398859/2270B10F-C867-4323-932B-498B10700449_png-1904664.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/398859/DD08F7DB-D689-4C44-A5FB-8CFFC99E4739_png-1904665.JPG EL OH motherfucking EL. Is there a single piece of media in this entire country that is pure fucking garbage? |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 3:30:14 PM EDT
[#35]
But. Black Lives Matter...
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Posted: 4/14/2021 3:32:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Rifle ammo against level IIIA armor is my guess. AR500 level IIIA armor. https://cmg-cmg-tv-10030-prod.cdn.arcpublishing.com/resizer/dDIwaLlDQwLVIFgzjaOCVpvMiN0=/600x0/filters:format(jpg):quality(70):focal(-5x-5:5x5)/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/cmg/NTMEUF7NMFE4PPNW3UVO2MPZOM.jpg Looks like soft body armor inserts to me, no curve to the carrier to indicate AR500. |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 3:34:58 PM EDT
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Filling in the gap created by defunding the police
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Posted: 4/14/2021 3:36:16 PM EDT
[#38]
Homie fucked around, and homie found out.
Level 3 vest, cartel with rifles, you lose. Given how stupid the public and reporters are, more likely it was an airsoft tac vest and probably didn't even have plates, or maybe discarded 2nd chance style soft armor that doesn't do squat. The irony of all the fake news sympathy articles with no mention of his criminal career is hysterical, just more Clown World. |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 3:38:53 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks like soft body armor inserts to me, no curve to the carrier to indicate AR500. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Rifle ammo against level IIIA armor is my guess. AR500 level IIIA armor. https://cmg-cmg-tv-10030-prod.cdn.arcpublishing.com/resizer/dDIwaLlDQwLVIFgzjaOCVpvMiN0=/600x0/filters:format(jpg):quality(70):focal(-5x-5:5x5)/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/cmg/NTMEUF7NMFE4PPNW3UVO2MPZOM.jpg Looks like soft body armor inserts to me, no curve to the carrier to indicate AR500. If that is a picture of the actual vest he was wearing, I also don't see any blood or a bullet hole (although the picture is cropped a bit). Shot somewhere other than the vest? |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 3:41:48 PM EDT
[#40]
Not the smartest teacher huh?
Mess with the bull get the horns. 
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Posted: 4/14/2021 3:43:06 PM EDT
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Of all the people to rob why the heck would you rob people who love to kill people in the most gruesome and painful way possible? Chainsaw execution anyone?
He may have been an educator but he had shit for brains. |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 3:43:10 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Our beloved coach died while murdering cartel members and attempting to steal their drugs and money. He was a fine, upstanding man and we grieve his passing. $1 says you're pretty damn close to be accurate!  Well played. He was a role model to both the good and bad students. |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 3:43:54 PM EDT
[#43]
Another (ex) hero.
He should have asked a math teacher for help. Ballistics and penetration are complicated, yo. |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 3:45:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Basketball, surprising. Chess club and physics was full........ Not. |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 3:45:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In the posted excerpt of the article it states the coaches accomplice was charged. It does not speak of the cartel gunmen being charged. Dead men tell no tales. If the accomplice gives information on the cartel and then goes to jail there? His lifespan in jail will be measured in hours and days. |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 3:47:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not the smartest teacher huh? Mess with the FIFY. 
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Posted: 4/14/2021 3:50:37 PM EDT
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So was this just a RIP crew that wanted cash? Cause honestly, society is so far fucked I dont blame vigilantes doing vigilante shit to drug dealers. Especially cartels our government could curtail but dont.
Probably just another criminal after drugs and money though... |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 3:52:48 PM EDT
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He needed more backup and firepower. Too bad he wasn't closer.
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Posted: 4/14/2021 3:52:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: $1 says you're pretty damn close to be accurate! Well played. He was a role model to both the good and bad students. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Our beloved coach died while murdering cartel members and attempting to steal their drugs and money. He was a fine, upstanding man and we grieve his passing. $1 says you're pretty damn close to be accurate! Well played. He was a role model to both the good and bad students. I don't see anything wrong with killing cartel members.
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Posted: 4/14/2021 3:56:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks like soft body armor inserts to me, no curve to the carrier to indicate AR500. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Rifle ammo against level IIIA armor is my guess. AR500 level IIIA armor. https://cmg-cmg-tv-10030-prod.cdn.arcpublishing.com/resizer/dDIwaLlDQwLVIFgzjaOCVpvMiN0=/600x0/filters:format(jpg):quality(70):focal(-5x-5:5x5)/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/cmg/NTMEUF7NMFE4PPNW3UVO2MPZOM.jpg Looks like soft body armor inserts to me, no curve to the carrier to indicate AR500. They are soft body armor inserts, but the brand is AR500 armor. https://www.ar500armor.com/ar-invictus.html https://www.ar500armor.com/ar-concealment.html |
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