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Posted: 9/25/2023 10:42:31 AM EST
 A No-Paperwork LEGAL Pistol Stock? The One Shot Stock [TriggrCon 2023] Neat idea that will give the AFT more heartburn  It’s basically a stock that you grip with the pistol it is not attached in any way. I guess we’ll see if it gets the van.. 
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Posted: 9/25/2023 10:48:35 AM EST
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Posted: 9/25/2023 10:50:42 AM EST
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I’m all for any accessory or firearms that gives the AFT heartburn.
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Posted: 9/25/2023 10:52:53 AM EST
[#3]
ATF: "The act of wrapping your hand around both creates an attachment.
Go directly to jail, do not pass go ..." |
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Posted: 9/25/2023 10:55:29 AM EST
[#4]
Argue over a tightened sling to stabilize a large pistol…
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Posted: 9/25/2023 11:00:52 AM EST
[#5]
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Posted: 9/25/2023 11:01:47 AM EST
[#6]
Neat idea.
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Posted: 9/25/2023 11:02:40 AM EST
[#7]
They’ll reclassify it as machine gun!
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Posted: 9/25/2023 11:02:54 AM EST
[#8]
Not the first time it’s been done. Couple years ago a company was making these fuggly molded laminate looking thumbhole grip things that a Glock would sit inside of
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Posted: 9/25/2023 11:03:22 AM EST
[#9]
Anything that gives the ATFE cocksuckers heartburn is good.
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Posted: 9/25/2023 11:03:26 AM EST
[#10]
I love how the gun industry exploits every loophole. I love it and I hope it never changes. Like the silencerco black powder rifle with integral silencer that is not NFA.
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Posted: 9/25/2023 11:04:50 AM EST
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Posted: 9/25/2023 11:08:19 AM EST
[#12]
I want to want this.
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Posted: 9/25/2023 11:14:22 AM EST
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I love how the gun industry exploits every loophole. I love it and I hope it never changes. Like the silencerco black powder rifle with integral silencer that is not NFA. |
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Posted: 9/25/2023 11:15:45 AM EST
[#14]
Quote History Duggan Ashley FTMFW! |
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Posted: 9/25/2023 11:20:13 AM EST
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not the first time it’s been done. Couple years ago a company was making these fuggly molded laminate looking thumbhole grip things that a Glock would sit inside of Same company. |
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Posted: 9/25/2023 11:22:25 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I love how the gun industry exploits every loophole. I love it and I hope it never changes. Like the silencerco black powder rifle with integral silencer that is not NFA. @Jambalaya I agree with you but… I don’t like using the word loophole it implies nefarious thought when in fact it’s just following or working within the limits of a law Doing 54mph in a 55mph zone isn’t a loophole it’s following the law. |
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Posted: 9/25/2023 11:24:07 AM EST
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: lol... ...FUCK the batfe |
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Posted: 9/25/2023 11:32:18 AM EST
[#18]
Too bad there aren't any 80% G switches.
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Posted: 9/25/2023 11:33:28 AM EST
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @Jambalaya I agree with you but I don't like using the word loophole it implies nefarious thought when in fact it's just following or working within the limits of a law Doing 54mph in a 55mph zone isn't a loophole it's following the law. Yeah I get it. Call it what you want, I'm just happy the gun industry does it.
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Posted: 9/25/2023 11:35:50 AM EST
[#20]
Is there an AR pistol version?
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Posted: 9/25/2023 11:36:58 AM EST
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: ATF: "The act of wrapping your hand around both creates an attachment. Go directly to jail, do not pass go ..." go ahead and wrap your hand around this dick, GAYtf |
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Posted: 9/25/2023 11:39:41 AM EST
[#22]
I like it at like $20 but $129 is ludicrous
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Posted: 9/25/2023 11:41:13 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It is not a "loophole" it is complying with the letter of the law. Loophole implies that you are getting away with something illegal. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I love how the gun industry exploits every loophole. I love it and I hope it never changes. Like the silencerco black powder rifle with integral silencer that is not NFA. No, a loophole is by definition legal. It’s something not covered by the law in question. |
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Posted: 9/25/2023 11:43:38 AM EST
[#24]
Stuff like that has been around for awhile. I remember seeing a simple gizmo just held on by hand pressure. That was some years ago.
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Posted: 9/25/2023 11:48:22 AM EST
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This product is designed to put your thumb in the governments eye.
This product is used by a long list of government agencies. These two statements have some tension, and one seems more believable than the other. |
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Posted: 9/25/2023 12:11:58 PM EST
[#26]
Laws, or in this case regulation, are the birth of innovation. ~me
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Posted: 9/25/2023 12:14:08 PM EST
[#27]
Place holder for a photo of a homemade one hanging in my shop my buddy Jeffrey made 30 years ago out of aluminum.
Very effective. |
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Posted: 9/25/2023 12:24:28 PM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This product is designed to put your thumb in the governments eye. This product is used by a long list of government agencies. These two statements have some tension, and one seems more believable than the other. I find those claims to be quite exaggerated until their veracity is confirmed. The employee next to him has some nervous shifty eyes going back and forth that we’re saying, “Shit the fuck up, Bob. You’re being recorded while lying”. |
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Posted: 9/25/2023 12:31:01 PM EST
[#29]
I get making money but $129?????
That's insulting and ridiculous. I am sure someone with a 3d printer could do it for $10. |
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Posted: 9/25/2023 12:32:28 PM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @Jambalaya I agree with you but… I don’t like using the word loophole it implies nefarious thought when in fact it’s just following or working within the limits of a law Doing 54mph in a 55mph zone isn’t a loophole it’s following the law. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I love how the gun industry exploits every loophole. I love it and I hope it never changes. Like the silencerco black powder rifle with integral silencer that is not NFA. @Jambalaya I agree with you but… I don’t like using the word loophole it implies nefarious thought when in fact it’s just following or working within the limits of a law Doing 54mph in a 55mph zone isn’t a loophole it’s following the law. 54 in a 55 is not a loophole because it complies with both the intent and the letter of the law. A loophole would be something that allows you to exceed 55mph in a 55mph zone, thus defeating the intent of the law, while complying with the letter of the law. |
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Posted: 9/25/2023 12:34:36 PM EST
[#31]
That is awesome. I applaud those giving the finger to the AFT.
However, there is no way the AFT doesn't come after those and shoot people's dogs. All gun laws are stupid and an infringment. |
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Posted: 9/25/2023 12:35:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ATF: "The act of wrapping your hand around both creates an attachment. Go directly to jail, do not pass go ..." If you start to stare too closely at the definition of various types of firearms under federal code, and squint your eyes a bit, there are potential interpretations of the law that could make the brace issue look downright quaint. The only reason those arguments haven't seen the light of day yet is because the can of worms they'd open is too big. Right now. |
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Posted: 9/25/2023 12:39:51 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I want to want this. Careful, last time I had those feelings I ended up with a Shockwave. 
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Posted: 9/25/2023 12:41:42 PM EST
[#34]
Having duct tape in your house will now be a felony.
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Posted: 9/25/2023 1:01:23 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I get making money but $129????? That's insulting and ridiculous. I am sure someone with a 3d printer could do it for $10. Molds ain't cheap. Probably $40k+ for a single mold. |
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Posted: 9/25/2023 1:32:22 PM EST
[#36]
We had these guys out at Gunstock this week. I didn't get to shoot it, but I talked to several people who were really impressed with them and bought one on sight.
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Posted: 9/25/2023 1:45:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I get making money but $129????? That's insulting and ridiculous. I am sure someone with a 3d printer could do it for $10. My son just estimated with material and power to be around $1 to print. |
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Posted: 9/25/2023 1:53:46 PM EST
[#38]
Tactical Timmies will buy a million of them.
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Posted: 9/25/2023 4:05:24 PM EST
[#39]
That's wholly retarded. Think about how that thing is gonna get twisted up with your hand in CQC and how that impacts real world weapons retention. What a joke.
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Posted: 9/26/2023 6:12:25 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's wholly retarded. Think about how that thing is gonna get twisted up with your hand in CQC and how that impacts real world weapons retention. What a joke. I got the impression it was for longer shots. If your going hands on just drop the thing and holster lol. |
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Posted: 9/26/2023 6:28:33 AM EST
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I appreciate what they are doing but im gonna pass.
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Posted: 9/26/2023 6:53:18 AM EST
[#42]
FATF will rule that a machine gun.
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Posted: 9/26/2023 7:07:59 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They’ll reclassify it as machine gun! That’s what happens when you add that thing that goes up. |
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Posted: 9/26/2023 7:13:06 AM EST
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“but mUh cQc!” Good grief.
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Posted: 9/26/2023 7:17:08 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My son just estimated with material and power to be around $1 to print. Does your son accept PayPal? I'll take 2. |
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Posted: 9/26/2023 7:34:22 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: FATF will rule that a machine gun. Which is why the only way to fix the FATF is to fire the whole damned department into the sun. |
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Posted: 9/26/2023 7:38:36 AM EST
[#47]
That is nothing new.
Variations have been around a long time. |
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Posted: 9/26/2023 7:40:37 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is there an AR pistol version? print one. Should be super easy. |
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Posted: 9/26/2023 7:41:26 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Which is why the only way to fix the FATF is to fire the whole damned department into the sun. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: FATF will rule that a machine gun. Which is why the only way to fix the FATF is to fire the whole damned department into the sun. Need to put them back under treasury’s control. Then immediately disband the treasury! |
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Posted: 9/26/2023 7:43:01 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It is not a "loophole" it is complying with the letter of the law. Loophole implies that you are getting away with something illegal. It kinda is. The loophole is that if the stock is not ATTACHED, it's not illegal. If it IS attached, it's illegal. Make a stock that doesn't attach to the gun, bam, you haven't violated the law. |
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