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Quoted: Yeah, my hearing is fucked from shooting indoors no hearing pro. But frags and IEDs fucked it way worse. I guess I don't totally understand why. The gun gets hotter faster, and you'll still be wearing ear pro and still be deaf. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Yeah, my hearing is fucked from shooting indoors no hearing pro. But frags and IEDs fucked it way worse. I guess I don't totally understand why. The gun gets hotter faster, and you'll still be wearing ear pro and still be deaf. From the OP CWO4 David Tomlinson, MCSC’s infantry weapons officer, emphasized the importance of suppressors in exchanging information during battle, explaining that “the most important thing the suppressor does is allow for better inter-squad, inter-platoon communication. It allows the operators to communicate laterally up and down the line during a fire fight.” |
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Any predictions on how well these will hold up under service conditions?
Not a suppressor guy, I'm genuinely curious. |
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It should be shaped like a dick....or at least have one drawn on the side.
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Quoted: Any predictions on how well these will hold up under service conditions? Not a suppressor guy, I'm genuinely curious. View Quote Well, these arnt new in fact quite old. They've been issued all over for quite some time. Kac actually makes a newer design as well likely picked this due to pedigree. |
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Quoted: Any predictions on how well these will hold up under service conditions? Not a suppressor guy, I'm genuinely curious. View Quote Plenty of units have already used these for deployments. Just not on this scale. Some of the Marine recon units come to mind. I don't have specifics, but they'll do just fine. |
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I love the way the kac looks. I thought the army was also looking at cans but they liked the oss helix or whatever.
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Nice to see the Uncle Fudds with a college degree are retiring.
2006-2010....brass and Gunners didn't want us using suppressors on the Mk12, didn't want snipers painting their weapons, didn't want us using short barrels on the SAW unless it was a dire need (replacing hot barrel), gave us some seriously shitty armor (MTV). Didn't want enlisted with M4s. I "learned" from the Gunner that a short barrel greatly reduces your effective range . Hence M4s and short barrel SAWs were no good past 300m............................................................. I think the only "new thing on the block" they wanted us to use was some sort of inner-ear earpro/comms that sucked royally. Had to be fit to your ear, which everyone is apparently a size medium, and sweat inhibits the device from working properly. Works good if you're sitting down in an air-conditioned room. But we also had a commander who told us he paid the Iraqi police and mayor to keep "bad guys" away. I'm guessing that's why the 2/3 BC got blown up in 2008 because they weren't going to pay millions of dollars. I guess anyways |
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Quoted: NT4 is old tech isn't it? View Quote It is older but it is built like a tank and can take some major abuse. Drawback is weight. Some people say that it doesn't "meter" as well as some other cans. To my ear, my NT4 has a much more pleasant tone to it compared to other cans. It is a deeper tone and not as sharp sounding, which makes it seem quieter, to me. |
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Quoted: Haha. Whoops https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/126406/039A3A6D-00E6-466C-BE10-9EEBCD058115_jpe-1777989.JPG View Quote Yeah, that can is about to take a ride downrange... |
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What, OSA finally do something good? Six years in the Army, and my ears ring like a motherphucker.
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Sweet.
I look forward to the used Flash Hider/suppressor mounts hitting the market. |
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Quiet can be very useful, but they will become infrared glow sticks when used for sustained fire.
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Quoted: I'm genuinely curious. 16.5 + this suppressor seems like at least 24 inches long. 10 inches longer than a standard M4. I wouldn't want to be in a house to house situation with that. I think I'd rather just have electronic ear muffs. View Quote I cleared plenty of houses rocking M16A2/M203 in Iraq 04. Just takes practice. |
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Soon to be seen on gun show tables next to the KAC rear sights, PVS-14s, and sandy magazines.
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I wonder how many of those suppressors will be "lost" in combat....?????
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Quoted: Gonna get you a sweet sweet deal on a beat to shit a2 flash hider? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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I wonder how many of those suppressors will be reported as "lost" in combat....?????
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Quoted: I wonder how many of those suppressors will be reported as "lost" in combat....????? View Quote I'm going to just go out on a limb here and say you've never witnessed a service member loosing their issued sensitive serialized equipment. Yet alone, a Marine. Hell I once was hazed until I wished for death because I was the blame for losing batteries for Motorola radios that I had yet to draw out from our company office for my squad. Come to find out the entire company was short 50 batteries out of 200. All I tried to draw was 7 batteries, and there were none left to get |
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Quoted: I always heard how cumbersome and unworkable 20 inch barrel guns for for vehicles and house to house. Now we're fielding something even longer. What's the idea, do they take it off whenever they do house to house? That seems like the best time to have it. View Quote Huh? We’ve cleared a lot of houses with M16A2’s. M16’s. M-14’s. M1 Garands, etc etc. |
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Quoted: I wonder how many of those suppressors will be reported as "lost" in combat....????? View Quote When I draw my weapon they scan all items deemed sensitive, weapon, optic, laser, and suppressor. If I came back without any of those it would be a real bad day for me unless I had a REAL good reason. |
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Quoted: I'm going to just go out on a limb here and say you've never witnessed a service member loosing their issued sensitive serialized equipment. Yet alone, a Marine. Hell I once was hazed until I wished for death because I was the blame for losing batteries for Motorola radios that I had yet to draw out from our company office for my squad. Come to find out the entire company was short 50 batteries out of 200. All I tried to draw was 7 batteries, and there were none left to get View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I wonder how many of those suppressors will be reported as "lost" in combat....????? I'm going to just go out on a limb here and say you've never witnessed a service member loosing their issued sensitive serialized equipment. Yet alone, a Marine. Hell I once was hazed until I wished for death because I was the blame for losing batteries for Motorola radios that I had yet to draw out from our company office for my squad. Come to find out the entire company was short 50 batteries out of 200. All I tried to draw was 7 batteries, and there were none left to get Sounds like KAC should have serialized their USMC marked rear sights then also. Same with Colt or FN detachable carry handles, and all those boxes of Brownells tan follower magazines that are only available on the secondhand market. Half of us have this stuff, we're just afraid to admit it now. |
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Quoted: Sounds like KAC should have serialized their USMC marked rear sights then also. Same with Colt or FN detachable carry handles, and all those boxes of Brownells tan follower magazines that are only available on the secondhand market. Half of us have this stuff, we're just afraid to admit it now. View Quote Most of those things got replaced by something else at some point and the unit doesn't really give a shit about them. None of those items are either sensitive or have a high dollar value assigned to them. Most of them also arent on the property book at most units. It all just sits in boxes for years until it either walks off or some self motivated individual turns it in to DRMO. |
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Quoted: When I draw my weapon they scan all items deemed sensitive, weapon, optic, laser, and suppressor. If I came back without any of those it would be a real bad day for me unless I had a REAL good reason. View Quote Lasers in particular seem to make it to the grey market with some frequency. |
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Quoted: This. Bed liner and some pants are guilty of this. View Quote A couple of months ago I was doing some shooting. Wasn’t really thinking and laid my suppressed gun down on a folding plastic table. That table now has a nice RECCE 5 sized hole in it. On the bright side, it was oddly satisfying pealing that plastic off of my suppressor. |
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How long till we start seeing the circle pattern burns/scarification being a thing?
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Based on the unanimous US v Miller decision, this would mean that suppressors are protected under the 2nd Amendment and not subject to NFA. The reason is that suppressors are now clearly demonstrating military application.
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Quoted: Based on the unanimous US v Miller decision, this would mean that suppressors are protected under the 2nd Amendment and not subject to NFA. The reason is that suppressors are now clearly demonstrating military application. View Quote So how's that going for machine guns, SBRs, grenades, and functional tanks? |
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Quoted: When I draw my weapon they scan all items deemed sensitive, weapon, optic, laser, and suppressor. If I came back without any of those it would be a real bad day for me unless I had a REAL good reason. View Quote When the 7-ton runs over the NVG's, the hazing is reduced by 3/4 as long as you find the serial number to turn in. |
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