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Posted: 1/27/2021 11:07:55 AM EDT
From her new perch on the U.S. House Armed Services Committee, at the end of last week, U.S. Rep. Stephanie Murphy, D-Fla., announced she plans to bring out a bill “to disqualify participants in the violent assault on the United States Capitol and members of the conspiracy movement QAnon from obtaining or maintaining a federal security clearance, which an individual must possess in order to hold a national security position and to access classified information.”

The congresswoman, who served at the Pentagon during President George W. Bush’s administration offered some of the details of the “Security Clearance Improvement Act” on Friday.
“Before individuals can obtain a security clearance to work for or with the federal government, they are subject to a rigorous background investigation,” the congresswoman’s office noted.

“This typically involves completing the Standard Form 86 (SF-86) questionnaire and undergoing an interview process. The purpose of the background investigation—or re-investigation, in the case of an individual who already holds a security clearance—is to examine the individual’s behavior, activities, and associations” in order to determine whether the individual is “reliable, trustworthy, of good conduct and character, and loyal to the U.S.’”

Murphy’s bill would have the U.S. Office of Personnel Management (OPM) ask applicants “whether they have ever been a member of, associated with, or knowingly engaged in activities conducted by an organization or movement—like QAnon—that spreads conspiracy theories and false information about the U.S. government.”

Murphy’s bill would also ask applicants if they took part in the “Stop the Steal” rally two weeks ago which became a violent mob of supporters of President Donald Trump that stormed the Capitol, leading to the death of five people including a Capitol police officer.

The congresswoman said the attack on the Capitol was one of the reasons she is bringing out the bill.

“Any individual who participated in the assault on the Capitol or who is a member of the conspiracy movement QAnon should be required to disclose this fact when applying to obtain or maintain a federal security clearance,” said Murphy on Friday. “It is highly unlikely that such an individual will be found by investigators to have shown the conduct, character, and loyalty to the United States that is a prerequisite to holding a national security position and viewing classified information.”

https://www.floridadaily.com/stephanie-murphy-brings-out-bill-to-ensure-qanon-supporters-dont-get-federal-security-clearances/
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 11:13:50 AM EDT
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Murphy’s bill would have the U.S. Office of Personnel Management (OPM) ask applicants “whether they have ever been a member of, associated with, or knowingly engaged in activities conducted by an organization or movement—like QAnon—that spreads conspiracy theories and false information about the U.S. government.”
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So where does this witch-hunt end?  Does posting in a Q thread here count? Are there Q organizations that you send in a check and an application form to?
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 11:15:06 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/27/2021 11:16:45 AM EDT
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Meh.  We live in East Germany now.

This isn't surprising, and reinforces that 2022 or 2024 will not be an option, because ANY opposition to the Left will be entirely illegal by then.

It sucks for sure, but anyone who didn't see this coming......Do you get it now?  This is not the same world, even from 10 years ago.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 11:18:11 AM EDT
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Q is just an idea.  It cant hurt anyone.






But anyone who thinks differently than the Democratic Borg needs to silenced.  Those ideas are dangerous.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 11:18:29 AM EDT
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I wonder if they'll have the same requirements for people who think that there's white supremacists around every corner as well....
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 11:19:33 AM EDT
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Good.
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Depends, is the person around the corner Caucasian?  If so... well the... YES, there IS!!

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You know like antifa

But they won't question anyone about belonging to that group of peaceful protesting.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 11:20:46 AM EDT
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So, toss the First Amendment completely, no pretense now.
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When they come for AR15.com members, I am going to laugh like hell, when you bitch, "I'M NOT ONE OF THEM!!!  I WAS JUST ON THE WEBSITE!!!", as you get your life destroyed with the rest of us.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 11:21:55 AM EDT
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Their still cool with marxists right... and commies.
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You know like antifa

But they won't question anyone about belonging to that group of peaceful protesting.
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You know like antifa

But they won't question anyone about belonging to that group of peaceful protesting.

Beat me to the punch on that one- but I reckon they'll want people willing to set their countrymen on fire needs be
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About all you can do at this point.  MAYBE there are enough people in Congress to see this for what it is, but I doubt it.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 11:29:23 AM EDT
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Don't post any
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I use cotton buds or cotton swabs.....







Oh shit.... I said "cotton" twice.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 11:32:37 AM EDT
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Murphy’s bill would have the U.S. Office of Personnel Management (OPM) ask applicants “whether they have ever been a member of, associated with, or knowingly engaged in activities conducted by an organization or movement—like QAnon—that spreads conspiracy theories and false information about the U.S. government.”
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So where does this witch-hunt end?  Does posting in a Q thread here count? Are there Q organizations that you send in a check and an application form to?
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Good question. Obviously I don't have the answer to that.

In theory, however, I am not dismissive of the notion that Qanon adherents may not be the ideal candidates for sensitive positions
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 11:33:48 AM EDT
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To be completely honest, I think anyone who bought into the Q stuff is too dumb to be trusted with security clearance.

However, I also think anyone who ever joined the DNC or voted for them in the last 30 years is kinda sketch, too. And a lot of people with SC are neocons who like war waaaaayyyy too much.

The peaceful solution is to just stop doing sketchy stuff that we think people need clearances to know about.

There. Problem solved.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 11:37:34 AM EDT
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Geez. In short order I thought the whole Q thing was like Nostradamus (vague so you can pretend it predicted something after the fact). I looked at it as harmless crap and pretty much ignored it. I suppose the fact that I post on this site is enough to call me an associate.

I’m sure glad we got rid of that tyrant.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 11:37:53 AM EDT
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Doesn't make much sense to ask a question of a group that holds "disinformation is necessary" as one of its core maxims and expect to be able to trust the response.
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Good question. Obviously I don't have the answer to that.

In theory, however, I am not dismissive of the notion that Qanon adherents may not be the ideal candidates for sensitive positions
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Murphy’s bill would have the U.S. Office of Personnel Management (OPM) ask applicants “whether they have ever been a member of, associated with, or knowingly engaged in activities conducted by an organization or movement—like QAnon—that spreads conspiracy theories and false information about the U.S. government.”


So where does this witch-hunt end?  Does posting in a Q thread here count? Are there Q organizations that you send in a check and an application form to?


Good question. Obviously I don't have the answer to that.

In theory, however, I am not dismissive of the notion that Qanon adherents may not be the ideal candidates for sensitive positions


Neither am I.... but my concern is that the definition of "Qanon adherent" will be expanded to anyone who posted "Q predicted this" as a joke in any ARfcom thread.  I'm half and half with that concern.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 11:39:19 AM EDT
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There's a similar law about communists, right?

Right?
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Neither am I.... but my concern is that the definition of "Qanon adherent" will be expanded to anyone who posted "Q predicted this" as a joke in any ARfcom thread.  I'm half and half with that concern.
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Murphy’s bill would have the U.S. Office of Personnel Management (OPM) ask applicants “whether they have ever been a member of, associated with, or knowingly engaged in activities conducted by an organization or movement—like QAnon—that spreads conspiracy theories and false information about the U.S. government.”


So where does this witch-hunt end?  Does posting in a Q thread here count? Are there Q organizations that you send in a check and an application form to?


Good question. Obviously I don't have the answer to that.

In theory, however, I am not dismissive of the notion that Qanon adherents may not be the ideal candidates for sensitive positions


Neither am I.... but my concern is that the definition of "Qanon adherent" will be expanded to anyone who posted "Q predicted this" as a joke in any ARfcom thread.  I'm half and half with that concern.

And anyone who ever associated with a politically undesirable org/event that Qtards also associated with.  And bear in mind, anyone can claim to be Q and say anything, when the need arises.

You actual Qtards out there beginning to wonder if it has been a leftist psy-op all along, yet?  Lefties LOVE leading their opposition around by their noses.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 11:44:49 AM EDT
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I could swear I remember having to say I wasn’t a commie once on some of that paperwork, maybe it was an interview.

Hard to believe that being a conservative will soon be a disqualifier.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 11:48:10 AM EDT
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What about a Q clearance?
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Patriot only.
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Neither am I.... but my concern is that the definition of "Qanon adherent" will be expanded to anyone who posted "Q predicted this" as a joke in any ARfcom thread.  I'm half and half with that concern.
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Murphy’s bill would have the U.S. Office of Personnel Management (OPM) ask applicants “whether they have ever been a member of, associated with, or knowingly engaged in activities conducted by an organization or movement—like QAnon—that spreads conspiracy theories and false information about the U.S. government.”


So where does this witch-hunt end?  Does posting in a Q thread here count? Are there Q organizations that you send in a check and an application form to?


Good question. Obviously I don't have the answer to that.

In theory, however, I am not dismissive of the notion that Qanon adherents may not be the ideal candidates for sensitive positions


Neither am I.... but my concern is that the definition of "Qanon adherent" will be expanded to anyone who posted "Q predicted this" as a joke in any ARfcom thread.  I'm half and half with that concern.


I understand the concern. I've mocked and satirized Q as well - often done with a "straight face" for comedic purposes.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 11:56:32 AM EDT
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Reminds me of this big pressing issue.

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My guess is that they’re hoping to nail people with facial recognition from 1/6 video footage, in order to deny the clearance ... and then hit them with a felony charge for lying on a federal form, or lying to investigators (or whatever the specific charge would be).

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Doesn't make much sense to ask a question of a group that holds "disinformation is necessary" as one of its core maxims and expect to be able to trust the response.


My guess is that they’re hoping to nail people with facial recognition from 1/6 video footage, in order to deny the clearance ... and then hit them with a felony charge for lying on a federal form, or lying to investigators (or whatever the specific charge would be).



I suspect it's going to go nowhere.  If it does it will be about as effective as the marijuana catcher on the 4473.  Guess it wouldn't be wholly a net negative in that case.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 12:02:46 PM EDT
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What if I have the letter Q in my surname?
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In all of my time here, I have never once seen you contribute anything positive to even a single thread.  That is supremely retarded.  You think that same thing applies to BLM or defund the police people?

edit:  I am not a Q person and have never been, but this is about banning anyone they see as opposition.
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Replace the words QAnon Supporters with "Jews".
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 12:16:05 PM EDT
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Oh shit, here come the thought police!

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Gleichschaltung


Gesetz zur Wiederherstellung des Berufsbeamtentums- Law for the Restoration of the Professional Civil Service, law passed by the Nazi regime of Germany on 7 April 1933


Article 1 of the Law claimed that in order to re-establish a "national" and "professional" civil service, members of certain groups of tenured civil servants were to be dismissed... political opponents could not serve as teachers, professors, judges, or other government positions. Shortly afterward, a similar law was passed concerning lawyers, doctors, tax consultants, musicians, and notaries.


Hitler agreed to these amendments and the bill was signed into law on 7 April 1933.

Article 4 of the Law ("Civil servants who, after their previous political activities, cannot guarantee that they will always stand up for the national state without reservation[…].") had the intention to remove all personnel that, because of their political views, could not be relied upon by the Party to execute its wishes (Gleichschaltung). This Article 4 affected all Germans irrespective of their "racial" origins.

Political opponents of national socialism ("Officials who, on account of their past political activities cannot guarantee that they have always acted wholeheartedly for the national state") should either be forced into retirement or let go from their jobs.




the Biden admin is moving faster than the Nazis did in suppressing political opponents inside government, civil service, academia, etc. when they came into power.

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Well, yeah. They are the ones who took over. Maoists. Leninists. Communists. Globalists.

This is an Obama takeover of the entire government.

Deep roots with that stuff.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 12:19:11 PM EDT
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I bet they have been accumulating a list any that posted in a Q group, since day one, linked to a Q related article, posted in a thread about a Q related article or posted about any conspiracy whatsoever.

The question I have is it going to be arbitrary and they just can ban whoever they want and it is up to them to sue to get off of the list or is the government going to have to prove they are before they get put on the list.

If is the latter then it is just a power grab by the Left and Q is just the excuse they are using.

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Please explain your reasoning.

@Shenanigunz
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In all of my time here, I have never once seen you contribute anything positive to even a single thread.  That is supremely retarded.  You think that same thing applies to BLM or defund the police people?

edit:  I am not a Q person and have never been, but this is about banning anyone they see as opposition.
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In all of my time here, I have never once seen you contribute anything positive to even a single thread.  That is supremely retarded.  You think that same thing applies to BLM or defund the police people?

edit:  I am not a Q person and have never been, but this is about banning anyone they see as opposition.


That's who Arfcom likes now. Guys like me are the assholes and guys like him are welcomed. Just look who the Arfcom employees joke with in political threads and that'll tell you everything you know.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 12:22:35 PM EDT
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Their abject fear of some stupid internet rumors just makes me distrust them more.  The paranoia is telling to say the least, lol.
Link Posted: 1/27/2021 12:29:45 PM EDT
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Q is a psyop. Personally I don't want to be involved with people who buy such obvious BS dangles before them.
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How does one identify a qanon supporter?  Do they wear special badges or labels.  Can they easily be spotted in public.  Does simply going to the qanon site identify a person as one, even if they go to that site out of simple curiosity or to seek reasons to ridicule?  Its like searching for witches.
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Around here they had armbands that were the height of fashion for a while.
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How about Muslims and Chinese, they good?
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