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Posted: 3/23/2020 7:02:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What's the name of the hospital? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Im an RN, I prepared for myself and then got fired for wearing an N95 when no one else had one. The feelz. I agree, fuck the hospital admins. What's the name of the hospital? No use, they won't tell us the real reason for the firing because of HR rules. |
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Posted: 3/23/2020 7:06:07 PM EDT
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Good man. We have a few but saving them for special calls in the coming weeks
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Posted: 3/23/2020 7:08:43 PM EDT
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If you have no barrier, use a bandana.
WW2/Korea/Vietnam operating room staff used plain old cotton masks. Not the best solution as the virus is 1 micron but it's better than nothing. best masks contained more fabric, were softer and were pleated, while the worst were stiffer, smaller and not pleated. Reusable cotton fabric masks were as effective as synthetic fabric masks when made to a good design. The efficiency of surgical masks of varying design and composition. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1203649 |
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Posted: 3/23/2020 7:10:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hate to say, but I'm in this camp. Cheap ass administrators didn't want to pay for storing basic safety supplies for their employees. And the employees (including doctors and nurses) didn't pay any attention and prepare either. Not exactly reassuring. You can't store or stockpile anymore because everything now has a two year (at most) expiration date. Plus the cost of medical supplies would blow your mind. We threw away several boxes a few months ago because they were expired. Want to do some real good? Let's research expiration dates on medical supplies, that's where the $$$$$ is made. The supplies are stupid expensive, they now expire in two years those two factors both prevent surpluses. |
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Posted: 3/23/2020 7:16:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You can't store or stockpile anymore because everything now has a two year (at most) expiration date. |
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Posted: 3/23/2020 7:17:18 PM EDT
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When I went to Physical Therapy this morning all the staff were wearing masks and gloves. You could not enter without having your temp taken. after a person used a piece of equipment it was wiped down. I learned each mask has a tag. At the end of the day they are sent over to the lab for testing if one comes up positive they know who used it. This was a big change from last week. Over the weekend a lady in our church tested positive. The first in our county. The state has yet to have a fatality. A week ago the state had 22 cases and now it is 197. Most people were shocked. They were counting on our being so rural to escape it. Church leaders didn't take it so seriously until she took ill. Suddenly all services were canceled until further notice. Surprise, surprise for the slow learners. Still some just can't accept reality.
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Posted: 3/23/2020 7:18:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My department is under orders not to accept outside donations. Food is the primary no no but it goes for pretty much anything anyone is giving off the street. No idea of the item’s history. But the Department expects the general population to trust the police without question? 
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Posted: 3/23/2020 7:21:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But don't flamebois have way cooler things, like full face respirators? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: County here is taking donations to distribute to hospitals. Fire guys are stupid for turning down. But don't flamebois have way cooler things, like full face respirators? They sure weren’t wearing them last Thursday when they came to pick our dementia subject we found after overnight search. |
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Posted: 3/23/2020 7:21:42 PM EDT
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Quoted: So, I have a crapton of these stored. Probably 1,000 or more. Since we are on the compound now and never leaving, I figured I would donate some. Took about 500 to the fire department & EMS station down the road. Nope, they don't want them.  Hospital happily took them. Maybe the guy there was a retard or something. I wonder if the hospital might run them through an autoclave to sterilize them first, if worried about contamination (whether inadvertent or not) where as fire/EMS doesn't have that option. |
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Posted: 3/23/2020 7:24:18 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Im an RN, I prepared for myself and then got fired for wearing an N95 when no one else had one. The feelz. I agree, fuck the hospital admins.  Would love to hear the story behind this. |
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Posted: 3/23/2020 7:27:18 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You can't store or stockpile anymore because everything now has a two year (at most) expiration date. Plus the cost of medical supplies would blow your mind. We threw away several boxes a few months ago because they were expired. Want to do some real good? Let's research expiration dates on medical supplies, that's where the $$$$$ is made. The supplies are stupid expensive, they now expire in two years those two factors both prevent surpluses. Donate them to missionary hospitals. I would think they will gladly take expired ones. Better than nothing. |
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Posted: 3/23/2020 7:27:54 PM EDT
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Quoted: So, I have a crapton of these stored. Probably 1,000 or more. Since we are on the compound now and never leaving, I figured I would donate some. Took about 500 to the fire department & EMS station down the road. Nope, they don't want them. Hospital happily took them. Maybe the guy there was a retard or something. Good for you, it's their damn loss. |
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Posted: 3/23/2020 7:31:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I only have 20 masks here and probably will never need them. Thought about donating them to the Sheriffs dept... but not sure if 20 would make much difference. Even one can make a difference. If you don't have a need get them to a hospital or some other care facility. If nothing else hook up some elderly peeps. |
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Posted: 3/23/2020 7:31:13 PM EDT
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My sister started sewing cloth masks, no filter or anything. She was deluged with requests for them
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Posted: 3/23/2020 7:33:38 PM EDT
[#15]
FIre departments fit test their people to a specific model of mask. Unless they have thousands it isn’t worth the time or cost to retest everyone.
ETA: I’m with my county EMA. We are scrounging PPE from every place we can. We are getting our shipment from the strategic national stockpile tonight. It isn’t enough for any sustained operations. |
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Posted: 3/23/2020 7:33:39 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Donate them to the hospital........ get sick later and the same hospital will bill you $15k. Fuck them, they didnt prepare That is EXTREMELY shitty thinking...these masks have been on short supply and hoarded for MONTHS. These people could one day save you or a loved ones fucking life, get your head out of your ass. |
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Posted: 3/23/2020 7:34:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Donate them to missionary hospitals. I would think they will gladly take expired ones. Better than nothing. We do but the amount of goods we donate monthly would blow your mind. The initial cost of the goods, coupled with the replacement cost is staggering... We often get supplies from our suppliers that expire in 6mos- 20 mos from the date we receive them. We threw out a box of ties for trachs recently. They aren't sterile, they are just basically fabric and Velcro, why do they expire in two years? We had to buy a case to replace them, the cost of the case was ridiculous. |
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Posted: 3/23/2020 7:36:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: N95 masks have a 5 year expiration. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You can't store or stockpile anymore because everything now has a two year (at most) expiration date. I don't think the mask itself can go bad. I think the elastic bands that hold it to your face are what goes bad. |
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Posted: 3/23/2020 7:37:31 PM EDT
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I only had 2 left from a 3pk and the local hospital gave them to security. They said they could not risk front line ER/nursing people using masks of unknown storage and origin. They were glad to save two of their known masks for the ER while still able to protect secondary staff. I guess they can sterilize and reuse them for the same person so they are tagging masks around the elastic.
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Posted: 3/23/2020 7:39:18 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I only had 2 left from a 3pk and the local hospital gave them to security. They said they could not risk front line ER/nursing people using masks of unknown storage and origin. They were glad to save two of their known masks for the ER while still able to protect secondary staff. I guess they can sterilize and reuse them for the same person so they are tagging masks around the elastic. I'd love to know what method they are using to sterilize masks. |
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Posted: 3/23/2020 7:43:04 PM EDT
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read a comment that all of the sudden facebook is donating 700k masks they had stored in a warehouse. The comments were why the fuck did they have 700k masks. not seen the story myself but they said it was announced during the task force briefing by Pence.
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Posted: 3/23/2020 7:46:36 PM EDT
[#22]
Chief must own 3M stock.
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Posted: 3/23/2020 7:46:40 PM EDT
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In case of California wildfires, for their employees they said. Make you wonder how many they still have.
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Posted: 3/23/2020 7:47:17 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They told me they weren't the right brand. They can only use ones branded 3m in some manner. Mine are made by some place called Sperian. Hospital was like "fuck yeah!" I have 20 and the hospital I called said the same. They very were happy for so few masks. ETA: My brother’s construction company donated 2400 N95s to two area hospitals. They were ecstatic. |
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Posted: 3/23/2020 7:53:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I only have 20 masks here and probably will never need them. Thought about donating them to the Sheriffs dept... but not sure if 20 would make much difference. @Dragracer_Art I'm sure any donation in a time of crisis would be appreciated. If the sheriff doesn't want them then I'm sure the hospital staff would jump all over it. Just make sure two things, first. 1.) You don't need them yourself. (Family First) 2.) If you donate them, take the necessary precautions because of that whole "no good deed goes unpunished" thing. 
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Posted: 3/23/2020 7:57:44 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: But the Department expects the general population to trust the police without question? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: My department is under orders not to accept outside donations. Food is the primary no no but it goes for pretty much anything anyone is giving off the street. No idea of the item’s history. But the Department expects the general population to trust the police without question? My department is a fire department, not police department. In terms of PPE were ok for now. I have no idea what 2 or 3 months from now will look like. |
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Posted: 3/23/2020 8:04:17 PM EDT
[#27]
Man i’d welcome you with open arms! Philly’s plan for us is “wear a mask!”
....yet they dont give us any 
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Posted: 3/23/2020 8:14:33 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They prob don’t want someone covid 19 positive to cough on the inside of all of them and get the whole team sick. Unfortunately it’s a legitimate concern in today’s world. Team? It's a police department not special forces. |
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Posted: 3/23/2020 8:17:13 PM EDT
[#29]
That was an awesome try of your PikeSlayer. My buddy told me SFPD still doesn't have them. I expect a lot of them to catch it.
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Posted: 3/23/2020 8:22:01 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder if the hospital might run them through an autoclave to sterilize them first, if worried about contamination (whether inadvertent or not) where as fire/EMS doesn't have that option. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So, I have a crapton of these stored. Probably 1,000 or more. Since we are on the compound now and never leaving, I figured I would donate some. Took about 500 to the fire department & EMS station down the road. Nope, they don't want them. Hospital happily took them. Maybe the guy there was a retard or something. I wonder if the hospital might run them through an autoclave to sterilize them first, if worried about contamination (whether inadvertent or not) where as fire/EMS doesn't have that option. Can't really do that unless they have an irradiating Co 60 sterilizer, which they don't. Can't run them in a regular steam sterilizer. Can't run them through a H2O2 sterilizer. *Might* be able to run them through an EO sterilizer but very few hospitals have them these days due the risks associated with those. An O3 sterilizer may work, not sure, but very few if any hospitals use those. Also, you can't sterilize without first cleaning and disinfecting. The masks would have to be washed then sterilized. Washing would destroy most masks, or at the least make a bigger mess. OP and others who have donated, thank you and good on you. 
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Posted: 3/23/2020 8:24:48 PM EDT
[#31]
I've donated a couple hundred to friends in nursing. One hospital threatened to fire my friend if she didn't take it off. She walked out.
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Posted: 3/23/2020 8:28:02 PM EDT
[#32]
I'll take any masks and give them to local EMS/hospital if anyone has any.
Suspected to run out in 3 weeks. |
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Posted: 3/23/2020 8:28:45 PM EDT
[#33]
I always though ammo and gold were going to be the currency of the apocalypse.
Turns out it is actually TP and N95 masks. |
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Posted: 3/23/2020 8:29:04 PM EDT
[#34]
I gave as many as I could take from work to my paramedic buddy. They gladly took them. Cocksuckers at work tried to hide them for them selves even though there’s like 10 people between 7 buildings and we don’t interact with anyone right now.
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Posted: 3/23/2020 8:29:41 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Would love to hear the story behind this. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Im an RN, I prepared for myself and then got fired for wearing an N95 when no one else had one. The feelz. I agree, fuck the hospital admins. Would love to hear the story behind this. Nootropics started a thread on it. |
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Posted: 3/23/2020 8:40:49 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Okay we have more going out to Madison. Thank you to GTHKTX who turned the offer so the clinic there could have them. Very kind of you...thanks much for your generosity. |
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Posted: 3/24/2020 12:32:54 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You can't store or stockpile anymore because everything now has a two year (at most) expiration date. Plus the cost of medical supplies would blow your mind. We threw away several boxes a few months ago because they were expired. Want to do some real good? Let's research expiration dates on medical supplies, that's where the $$$$$ is made. The supplies are stupid expensive, they now expire in two years those two factors both prevent surpluses. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Hate to say, but I'm in this camp. Cheap ass administrators didn't want to pay for storing basic safety supplies for their employees. And the employees (including doctors and nurses) didn't pay any attention and prepare either. Not exactly reassuring. You can't store or stockpile anymore because everything now has a two year (at most) expiration date. Plus the cost of medical supplies would blow your mind. We threw away several boxes a few months ago because they were expired. Want to do some real good? Let's research expiration dates on medical supplies, that's where the $$$$$ is made. The supplies are stupid expensive, they now expire in two years those two factors both prevent surpluses. Well as someone who’s in charge of ops I keep my expired bottled water during hurricane season Let that sink in |
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Posted: 3/24/2020 12:34:37 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have 20 at the surgery center when they are done so is our work. Every hospital that is short on masks needs to see this: https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_194/2308138_Working-on-emergency-field-expedient-with-3D-printer-N95-respirator-substitutes-UPDATED-FILES-.html |
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Posted: 3/24/2020 12:45:17 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Donate them to the hospital........ get sick later and the same hospital will bill you $15k. Fuck them, they didnt prepare That has nothing to do with the docs and nurses risking their lives with no or inadequate PPE. |
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Posted: 3/24/2020 12:49:22 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Okay we have more going out to Madison. Thank you to GTHKTX who turned the offer so the clinic there could have them. |
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Posted: 3/24/2020 1:14:05 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Traditional CDC guidelines say one mask/one patient. Otherwise you run a risk of cross contamination of other rooms/areas/patients. They've suspended this though, since there aren't enough masks to do that. Disinfect them with a cheap ozone machine. Stick them in a thick plastic bag or container and turn the machine on. 
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Posted: 3/24/2020 2:09:12 PM EDT
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I gave away 18 masks last night to a couple doctor friends of ours.
As for sterilizing, at what temperature would the straps become damaged? I'm wondering if the masks could be baked in a toaster oven for a while. |
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Posted: 3/24/2020 2:19:21 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They prob don’t want someone covid 19 positive to cough on the inside of all of them and get the whole team sick. Unfortunately it’s a legitimate concern in today’s world. I doubt they plan on needing them within 3 days. After 3 days, a virus infested mask will be clean. But people are dumb. |
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Posted: 3/24/2020 2:20:55 PM EDT
[#44]
Quoted: So, I have a crapton of these stored. Probably 1,000 or more. Since we are on the compound now and never leaving, I figured I would donate some. Took about 500 to the fire department & EMS station down the road. Nope, they don't want them. Hospital happily took them. Maybe the guy there was a retard or something. If they were volunteers, the answer is "Probably" |
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Posted: 3/24/2020 2:24:27 PM EDT
[#45]
If any one want sell any let me know wife works at a hospital and they are supper low in NJ..
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Posted: 3/24/2020 2:25:02 PM EDT
[#46]
You ‘gave’ them to a hospital?
You know they are going to turn around an charge a sick person $100 for that mask. |
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Posted: 3/24/2020 2:27:24 PM EDT
[#47]
Good job op. We would have gladly taken them as our supply is short. We are on orders to resuse any ppe that wasn't potentially contaminated, which is a grey area. We are suppose to use our best judgement.
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Posted: 3/24/2020 2:33:25 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What's the name of the hospital? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Im an RN, I prepared for myself and then got fired for wearing an N95 when no one else had one. The feelz. I agree, fuck the hospital admins. What's the name of the hospital? Find and read the whole thread first. https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/So-I-got-fired-today-RN-COVID19/5-2307260/?page=1 |
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Posted: 3/24/2020 2:35:36 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You ‘gave’ them to a hospital? You know they are going to turn around an charge a sick person $100 for that mask. Maybe so. I don't care. I can't be an asshole everyday, sometimes I take the day off. |
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Posted: 3/24/2020 2:39:19 PM EDT
[#50]
Quoted: So, I have a crapton of these stored. Probably 1,000 or more. Since we are on the compound now and never leaving, I figured I would donate some. Took about 500 to the fire department & EMS station down the road. Nope, they don't want them. Hospital happily took them. Maybe the guy there was a retard or something. Well they are hose draggers and ambulance drivers  
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