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Posted: 1/18/2021 9:11:25 PM EDT
I have been speaking against optics in my circles for a while now. The other side does not care about optics and they have been allowed to do whatever they want. Are you happy with always taking the high road and worrying about speaking up for your 2A rights as well as 1A? And the government does not give us these rights. You were born with them and the only person who can allow them to be stripped from you is you. Or, am I off my rocker and just another fool who likes to read GD?
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What would you have them do? Burn down cities to get what they want?
Point guns at people? Leave graffiti everywhere? |
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[#3]
At first I was like I just bought an acog because no batteries. Then I realized you meant the way things look. Never did care about that.
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[#4]
I've never seen "muh optics" referring to speech, it seems like it's always a defense to criminal activities that end up on the net
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[#7]
People who care about optics think “we’ll get em in 22 for sure ! “
And , “ the Dems can’t do crazy stuff or they’ll lose in 24! “ So .....basically idiots |
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lol When you don't control any MSM, optics are all but useless.
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[#11]
Fuck optics. Democrats are evil scum. They ARE the reason the 2nd is a thing.
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[#12]
If the Republicans want to win in 2022 they had better replace a lot of RINOs or it isn't happening. I'm not voting for a sellout no matter what.
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Quoted: What would you have them do? Burn down cities to get what they want? Point guns at people? Leave graffiti everywhere? View Quote Nah, those things do not serve the same purpose. Those people just want free things and more .gov money sent to them to sit at home. I guess what I am saying is that many still believe that voting is the answer. Or they did until the past few weeks. Where do you go from here? Start your own country within this country? Sit back and hope it will get better? Move to Europe and enjoy Ukranian women? What we have been doing is not working and never will. |
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[#15]
There's a huge difference between optical and Romney-style weakness. Google Nick Fuentes. He explains the importance of optics very well
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Quoted: If the Republicans want to win in 2022 they had better replace a lot of RINOs or it isn't happening. I'm not voting for a sellout no matter what. View Quote Y’all need to wrap your heads around the fact that the left isn’t playing by the rules. There’s a new set of rules, and it doesn’t include allowing the right to win elections anymore. There will be no winning by voting in 2022 or 2024. Plan accordingly. |
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Quoted: lol When you don't control any MSM, optics are all but useless. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Bingo Quoted: There's a huge difference between optical and Romney-style weakness. Google Nick Fuentes. He explains the importance of optics very well Fuentes should not be cited as a positive example of anything. |
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Quoted: Nah, those things do not serve the same purpose. Those people just want free things and more .gov money sent to them to sit at home. I guess what I am saying is that many still believe that voting is the answer. Or they did until the past few weeks. Where do you go from here? Start your own country within this country? Sit back and hope it will get better? Move to Europe and enjoy Ukranian women? What we have been doing is not working and never will. View Quote chambers helped the Democrats. This q bullshit has been a disaster |
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Quoted: Nah, those things do not serve the same purpose. Those people just want free things and more .gov money sent to them to sit at home. I guess what I am saying is that many still believe that voting is the answer. Or they did until the past few weeks. Where do you go from here? Start your own country within this country? Sit back and hope it will get better? Move to Europe and enjoy Ukranian women? What we have been doing is not working and never will. View Quote Amen to that. If this entire clusterfuck of 2020 has shown us anything it’s that it’s time to change our strategies. |
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I understand what you’re saying, but look what happened when optics were left at the doorstep of the Capital. Because they didn’t care how it looked, it was made to look very bad.
So evaluate what was gained by that and what was lost by that. |
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[#21]
The other side does care about optics. The same type of argument that takes place here takes place there. Over there you have a small but influential group of activists arguing against what they call "respectability politics" and then you have everyone else trying to reign them in
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[#26]
Optics don't matter because the media controls the narrative. The only way to receive positive press is to do exactly what the media presses you to do--which is doing the left's bidding. Anything else will be portrayed as being some type of "-ist" (racist, nationalist, etc).
The Republicans should have worked on dismantling the information monopoly (i.e. Google, media, etc) when they had the chance. The majority of the people get bombarded by the left's narrative everyday, all day. The left's message is spewed on the radio as people drive to and from work. It's spewed at work (if you work for a large corporation). It's spewed on the television (news, shows, sports, commercials/ads). I lean to the right. Sometimes those messages can make me question my beliefs as they are so omnipresent. Somehow, the right needs to counter this. Again, the only way to not be demonized by the media is to do exactly as the left tells you to do. There is no escaping that. I will say the right does need to tame it's message a tad in order to attract people who aren't as polarized in their beliefs. We don't need to water down our message. We just need to present it in a way that isn't singularly focused on pleasing those on the hard right. |
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Quoted: Y’all need to wrap your heads around the fact that the left isn’t playing by the rules. There’s a new set of rules, and it doesn’t include allowing the right to win elections anymore. There will be no winning by voting in 2022 or 2024. Plan accordingly. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: If the Republicans want to win in 2022 they had better replace a lot of RINOs or it isn't happening. I'm not voting for a sellout no matter what. Y’all need to wrap your heads around the fact that the left isn’t playing by the rules. There’s a new set of rules, and it doesn’t include allowing the right to win elections anymore. There will be no winning by voting in 2022 or 2024. Plan accordingly. I seriously cannot believe there are people that don't understand this. |
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[#31]
LOL Now that Republicans lost are you'll back to suit and ties? Did everyone forget all the "fiery, but mostly peaceful", and "protests were mostly peaceful minus a few bad actors", protests from the summer? You'll forgot who's side the MSM is on, no amount of optics is gonna help you'll if the MSM has chosen a side. Like it or not, it's a propaganda war, and the side that has the most outlets to deliver said propaganda is gonna win that war.
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[#32]
I normally believe in the importance of optics. I'm done now. I don't give a shit anymore. We get silenced and villified on a daily basis. The left gets rewarded for burning our communities to the ground. Fuck it.
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[#33]
Quoted: If the Republicans want to win in 2022 they had better replace a lot of RINOs or it isn't happening. I'm not voting for a sellout no matter what. View Quote In case you had not noticed, elections don't matter any more. They will matter even less with 22-25 million new demonrat voters. And 2 new demonrat states. With 4 new demonrat senators. |
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Quoted: I've never seen "muh optics" referring to speech, it seems like it's always a defense to criminal activities that end up on the net View Quote VA lobby day last year. So much crying ahead of time about optics. ANTIFA was going to come out and start trouble too and make gun owners look bad. |
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Quoted: I seriously cannot believe there are people that don't understand this. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: If the Republicans want to win in 2022 they had better replace a lot of RINOs or it isn't happening. I'm not voting for a sellout no matter what. Y’all need to wrap your heads around the fact that the left isn’t playing by the rules. There’s a new set of rules, and it doesn’t include allowing the right to win elections anymore. There will be no winning by voting in 2022 or 2024. Plan accordingly. I seriously cannot believe there are people that don't understand this. |
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[#39]
Playing by their rules is a bad game. They control the press and the politicians, which means they control perception. Disruption, covert action and clear cut defense is all we’ve got right now, till we can sway public opinion we’ll continue to lose.
As Erin states, they force dilemma actions, meaning they try to force you into limited actions that make us look bad no matter which you pick and they want an escalation of force that can be tainted to make us the aggressors. We really need their expats and disillusioned to come forward and give us intel. |
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Quoted: I have been speaking against optics in my circles for a while now. The other side does not care about optics and they have been allowed to do whatever they want. Are you happy with always taking the high road and worrying about speaking up for your 2A rights as well as 1A? And the government does not give us these rights. You were born with them and the only person who can allow them to be stripped from you is you. Or, am I off my rocker and just another fool who likes to read GD? View Quote Agreed |
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[#42]
Got news for everybody, there is no high road.
And all those Cuck Old Party schmucks who think they are standing on some cloud, patting themselves on their backs because they didn't raise their voice, or fight back against the socialist horde about the lay waste to the country, while the dems wipe their asses with the Constitution and commit crimes against The People, can go fuck themselves. |
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Quoted: Agreed View Quote Wrong, the leftists very much care about optics, so much so they take great care in their security, in their filming of actions, in how they structure their cells, in crafting perception in carrying out their ops and involving media, in maintaining their narratives and protecting their hierarchy. Focusing on optics is how they got us here. |
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Quoted: Of course voting is the answer. Beating the shit out of cops and climbing around the walls in congressional chambers helped the Democrats. This q bullshit has been a disaster View Quote |
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It is better to be feared than to be loved. - Niccolo Machiavelli
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Quoted: The left burned down cities all year long and the soccer moms still voted for them. Some people walked around inside a building from the right and the feds murdered a few for it while the media called it a riot. The ballot box is done. View Quote Because the leftists control the optics at the moment. They’ve convinced a large segment of the country that communists rioting is because “racism” and your rioting is because “racist”. That’s what the optics are if you don’t reverse that perception, you will fail, repeatedly. Popular support is a necessity because you will never be seen as justified without it. Legitimacy is a big thing. |
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Quoted: I seriously cannot believe there are people that don't understand this. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: If the Republicans want to win in 2022 they had better replace a lot of RINOs or it isn't happening. I'm not voting for a sellout no matter what. Y’all need to wrap your heads around the fact that the left isn’t playing by the rules. There’s a new set of rules, and it doesn’t include allowing the right to win elections anymore. There will be no winning by voting in 2022 or 2024. Plan accordingly. I seriously cannot believe there are people that don't understand this. It is a very uncomfortable truth. It is much more comfortable to believe we will have “better luck next year”. |
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Quoted: Because the leftists control the optics at the moment. They've convinced a large segment of the country that communists rioting is because "racism" and your rioting is because "racist". That's what the optics are if you don't reverse that perception, you will fail, repeatedly. Popular support is a necessity because you will never be seen as justified without it. Legitimacy is a big thing. View Quote |
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Quoted: You think the media is going to start proclaiming the right the good guys ever? Optics are dead. View Quote You are missing the point, the left needs to misstep and the public needs to see it. We need Toto’s pulling that curtain back. Overt offense is just going to put nails in your coffin. They have played this much smarter than we have. |
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