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Posted: 1/25/2021 12:39:21 PM EDT
Need 2 x 5/16" by 2" long SS bolts, and lock washers to go with them.
I went to the local hardware store and they are closed permanently. Damn you CHINA! So I go to Lowe's, just a couple of loose 5/16" SS bolts in 2" and no nuts at all. So I starting digging and looking in the bins, nothing, ask someone, nothing in stock. I go to the specialty screw drawers and I was able to score the last 2, 5/16-24" x 2" and two lock nuts. $7.66....  The bolts are Taiwanese and the nuts are China crap. I am going to lube these thing the heck up can't take the change for them to gall up. TL;DR, damn you CHina |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 12:41:32 PM EDT
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China is asshoe.
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Posted: 1/25/2021 12:58:12 PM EDT
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FPNI
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Posted: 1/25/2021 12:59:16 PM EDT
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I needed a new "clip" for the end of my winch rope on the CanAm the other day. Tractor supply had nada in ANY size.
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Posted: 1/25/2021 1:01:14 PM EDT
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Do you have a NAPA parts store or something similar around?
Might be worth a peek there. |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 1:07:54 PM EDT
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I think it was oxtool that did a youtube vid on bolts.
Chinese bolts were actually stronger than US made ones of same spec. |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 2:20:36 PM EDT
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Ace Hardware is my first stop when I need just a couple bolts/washers, etc.
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Posted: 1/25/2021 2:23:14 PM EDT
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GD: Bitches about Chinese stuff in all our stores.
Also GD: Why in the fuck is a bolt and nut $4 each?? Yes, I know this example was Chinesium, but everybody buying the cheapest shit possible is what pushed companies to buy/sell more cheap shit in the first place. |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 2:24:14 PM EDT
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Next time order from McMaster Carr. Sorry it has to be this way, welcome to globalism.
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Posted: 1/25/2021 2:25:46 PM EDT
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Old man yells at cloud.
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Posted: 1/25/2021 2:34:38 PM EDT
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I just bought a bunch of #1 2x4x104 5/8 precuts to finish my basement - $9.45 each. HOLY FUCK!
Glad I’m not building a whole house right now |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 2:35:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Old man yells at cloud. Lmfaooooooo |
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Posted: 1/25/2021 2:35:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I just bought a bunch of #1 2x4x104 5/8 precuts to finish my basement - $9.45 each. HOLY FUCK! Glad I'm not building a whole house right now I knew they were high, but that is insane. Glad we built a couple years ago 
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Posted: 1/25/2021 2:37:17 PM EDT
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My wife is Taiwanese. She works pretty good most days.
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Posted: 1/25/2021 3:01:39 PM EDT
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Sounds like my experience at Lowe's the other day. I was in need of a replacement hammer handle, the local mom & pop hardware store closed at noon (Sat) so I swung by Lowe's. I'm looking and looking, everywhere, for a replacement handle but not finding one. Finally break down and ask the "expert" working the tool section where the replacement handles were located. Her reply, "I don't think they make those, I've never seen one". I assured her this was a real thing and left.
I picked up a handle this morning at mom & pop's and have a functional hammer again. |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 12:36:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you have a NAPA parts store or something similar around? Might be worth a peek there. I do...I didn't ask about the hardware as I already had it, but they did have #8 AWG 5/16 ring terminals that I needed. |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 12:37:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think it was oxtool that did a youtube vid on bolts. Chinese bolts were actually stronger than US made ones of same spec. Not real concerned with them being stronk...I need them not to rust. For example, I have two 5/16" bolts holding an 18" Light bar. |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 12:38:04 AM EDT
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Tractor Supply
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Posted: 1/26/2021 12:38:15 AM EDT
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Hard to compete with slave labor
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Posted: 1/26/2021 12:38:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ace Hardware is my first stop when I need just a couple bolts/washers, etc. Used to have an ACE in town...closed down a few years back. Closest hardware store besides LOWES is at least 20 minutes away now. |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 12:39:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Next time order from McMaster Carr. Sorry it has to be this way, welcome to globalism. McMaster Carr has awesome customer service, and I don't think I have ever seen anything out of stock there, no matter how unusual or obscure. |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 12:39:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Next time order from McMaster Carr. Sorry it has to be this way, welcome to globalism. Snackmaster-Carr is about to get a big ass stainless order from me when the garage is done. Gone order all the shit I need. |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 12:39:56 AM EDT
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Local Fastenal?
They usually have bins full seeing how they serve industry that might be local. |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 12:41:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Tractor Supply 25 minutes away 
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Posted: 1/26/2021 12:41:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Local Fastenal? They usually have bins full seeing how they serve industry that might be local. 1/2 hour away |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 12:42:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ace Hardware is my first stop when I need just a couple bolts/washers, etc. |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 12:42:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ace Hardware is my first stop when I need just a couple bolts/washers, etc. This Ace has a much better selection of fasteners/hardware than any of the big box stores. |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 12:43:09 AM EDT
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This is such a weird ass town.
No one does any of their own work, no one cuts their own grass, or washes their own car. Plenty chain restaurants few mom and pop places, |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 12:49:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think it was oxtool that did a youtube vid on bolts. Chinese bolts were actually stronger than US made ones of same spec. |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 11:42:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Local Fastenal? They usually have bins full seeing how they serve industry that might be local. Mine doesn't like to serve the little guy. Super expensive, and the only way I can see people using them is if they offer some sort of a business discount? |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 11:48:54 AM EDT
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Local owned hardware stores are just flat out closed?
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Posted: 1/26/2021 11:55:57 AM EDT
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When I ran a shop many years ago, we did batch testing on certain fasteners to ensure they met the spec for class/grade. Not all US fasteners met the spec they were advertised at, and no Chinese ones we tested did (maybe some do, but not the ones we tested). Granted, that was a long time ago, but it was sort of frightening knowing how inconsistent some batches we tested were.
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Posted: 1/26/2021 11:58:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I just bought a bunch of #1 2x4x104 5/8 precuts to finish my basement - $9.45 each. HOLY FUCK! Glad I’m not building a whole house right now One of our neighbors is building their housez started late 2019. This past year they had to halt and take out an additional loan because lumber costs skyrocketed and ate their entire budget. |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 12:04:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ace Hardware is my first stop when I need just a couple bolts/washers, etc. |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 12:11:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: China is asshoe. This makes me wonder how similar our YouTube histories are. |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 12:12:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: W in the actual F?????? I knew they were high, but that is insane. Glad we built a couple years ago Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I just bought a bunch of #1 2x4x104 5/8 precuts to finish my basement - $9.45 each. HOLY FUCK! Glad I'm not building a whole house right now I knew they were high, but that is insane. Glad we built a couple years ago Yeah... ALL building materials are up in general. 19/32 OSB is $30+ per sheet Everything is up 15, 20, 30%+ Of course, it’s all blamed on COVID. To be fair, some of it is - between plants shutting down due to exposure, the whole ridiculous occupancy bullshit impacting manufacturing facilities, and the fact that covid related UEI payouts provided significant raises and incentive to stay home to factory workers, all while the housing industry continued to boom, severely offset supply & demand. Add in fear mongering and panic, and well - there you have it. Thankfully, at least pressure treated lumber is finally (mostly) available again, albeit at retarded prices. It sucked carrying framing packages at 25% markup, having TJI’s sit in the mud, pushing out truss drops, rescheduling crews and shit daily all while waiting for the fucking sill plates to arrive. Fun stuff. What’s gonna be interesting, is, given the huge hit to overall margins (can’t claw back existing contracts), what’s gonna happen to the industry once the Dems tax everything they can find to fucking death, all the commodity prices explode further, the bond market takes a shit and rates soar. Don’t get me started on the Commercial space. |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 12:13:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think it was oxtool that did a youtube vid on bolts. Chinese bolts were actually stronger than US made ones of same spec. Shh muricans don't want to hear about how good Chinese steel actually is. |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 12:16:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think it was oxtool that did a youtube vid on bolts. Chinese bolts were actually stronger than US made ones of same spec. LOL...BULLSHIT! |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 12:20:40 PM EDT
[#38]
Fastenall
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Posted: 1/26/2021 12:34:51 PM EDT
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Tractor store is good too, they have Grade 5 and Grade 8 bolts for $2-$3/lb.
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Posted: 1/26/2021 12:35:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: McMaster Carr has awesome customer service, and I don't think I have ever seen anything out of stock there, no matter how unusual or obscure. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Next time order from McMaster Carr. Sorry it has to be this way, welcome to globalism. McMaster Carr has awesome customer service, and I don't think I have ever seen anything out of stock there, no matter how unusual or obscure. TP, alcohol, respirators/masks. Other than that, mcmaster is the place to go when time and availability are more important than money. Even then, their hardware is reasonable for the most part. |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 12:38:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think it was oxtool that did a youtube vid on bolts. Chinese bolts were actually stronger than US made ones of same spec. from one batch, then the next shows up and they snap. I got a china made fastener for a gate I was fixing about a year ago. matched no known thread pitch, just random threads. came from TSC. |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 12:47:50 PM EDT
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I have to go buy 2 PT 2x10s, one 20' and one 10' (rebuilding my deck).
Dreading both trying to find them and how much they will cost.. It isn't just real wood. Got a quote to replace my PVC deck boards with Trex. $5k for 20, 20' 2x6s (that is just for the boards). Nope, the old boards weren't so bad after all, cleaning them up and reusing them. |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 12:49:46 PM EDT
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Tractor Supply sells bolts and nuts by the pound and I've been stocking up on different sizes, just fill a bag with 3/8 bolts of different lengths, fill another bag with 7/16 bolts of different lengths, fill a bag with 3/8 washers and nuts, etc. The problem is their restock sucks. They'll be out of 1/4-20 nuts for months, and this was pre-covid.
But anyway, I drop these bags into some enclosed parts bins and I have at least some of the common hardware ready to roll without having to make a run to the store. Yeah, it's kind of like your grandpa saving mason jars full of screws, but this is new stuff organized by size. |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 12:50:21 PM EDT
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Quoted: Need 2 x 5/16" by 2" long SS bolts, and lock washers to go with them. I went to the local hardware store and they are closed permanently. Damn you CHINA! So I go to Lowe's, just a couple of loose 5/16" SS bolts in 2" and no nuts at all. So I starting digging and looking in the bins, nothing, ask someone, nothing in stock. I go to the specialty screw drawers and I was able to score the last 2, 5/16-24" x 2" and two lock nuts. $7.66.... The bolts are Taiwanese and the nuts are China crap. I am going to lube these thing the heck up can't take the change for them to gall up. TL;DR, damn you CHina Yes, hello, 1995 called and wants their griping back. Where have you been? |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 1:09:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This Ace has a much better selection of fasteners/hardware than any of the big box stores. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Ace Hardware is my first stop when I need just a couple bolts/washers, etc. This Ace has a much better selection of fasteners/hardware than any of the big box stores. AND, the GOOD ones sell smokers, charcoal and guns!!!  |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 1:13:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think it was oxtool that did a youtube vid on bolts. Chinese bolts were actually stronger than US made ones of same spec. Chinese steel is usually less ductile. Chinese steel tends to break when pushed past it's limit instead of bending first. Good for bolts. Bad for hooks and lifting hardware. They don't seem to understand why they need to make steel differently based on the application. |
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Posted: 1/26/2021 1:21:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Chinese steel is usually less ductile. Chinese steel tends to break when pushed past it's limit instead of bending first. Good for bolts. Bad for hooks and lifting hardware. They don't seem to understand why they need to make steel differently based on the application. Steer is steer. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 1:50:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Local owned hardware stores are just flat out closed? @Aimless Yep, we only had two hardware stores in the whole town of 18,000 people. That in an of itself is odd I know. But we had an ACE on my side of town and a True Value on the other side...Both are permanantly shut down. Only hard ware in town is Lowes and NAPA has some oddball stuff too. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 1:51:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, hello, 1995 called and wants their griping back. Where have you been? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Need 2 x 5/16" by 2" long SS bolts, and lock washers to go with them. I went to the local hardware store and they are closed permanently. Damn you CHINA! So I go to Lowe's, just a couple of loose 5/16" SS bolts in 2" and no nuts at all. So I starting digging and looking in the bins, nothing, ask someone, nothing in stock. I go to the specialty screw drawers and I was able to score the last 2, 5/16-24" x 2" and two lock nuts. $7.66.... The bolts are Taiwanese and the nuts are China crap. I am going to lube these thing the heck up can't take the change for them to gall up. TL;DR, damn you CHina Yes, hello, 1995 called and wants their griping back. Where have you been? in 1995 I was 11. |
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Posted: 1/27/2021 1:57:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 25 minutes away Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Tractor Supply 25 minutes away 
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