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Posted: 1/19/2021 12:20:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: One of the team leaders in my former reserve unit is on a regional FBI SWAT team. He was an "operator" on active duty before the reserves, went to a SOC reserve unit, and does FBI SWAT now. His SWAT team has a bunch of Marines and former ARSOF guys. They aren't pretenders. Maybe his team is an an anomaly, but I would not bet on it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: What’s the point of owning an apc if you don’t use the apc? It’s a show of force Pretenders pretending. One of the team leaders in my former reserve unit is on a regional FBI SWAT team. He was an "operator" on active duty before the reserves, went to a SOC reserve unit, and does FBI SWAT now. His SWAT team has a bunch of Marines and former ARSOF guys. They aren't pretenders. Maybe his team is an an anomaly, but I would not bet on it. Does he believe it is "his place" to question the nature of his orders? Or is he a good professional? |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 12:21:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Was it this guy? Who threatened to shoot his kids if they turned him in for going to the capitol. Link No |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 12:21:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Really surprised we have not yet heard of anyone taking a stand when they come knocking. They come between 2 and 6 in the morning. Until you have 2-3 families living with each other and keeping a fire watch, we won’t see many stands |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 12:22:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Was it this guy? Who threatened to shoot his kids if they turned him in for going to the capitol. Link Quote HistoryQuoted: Was it this guy? Who threatened to shoot his kids if they turned him in for going to the capitol. Link A Texas man who stormed the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 was arrested and accused of having threatened to shoot his children if they told authorities that he had gone to Washington, D.C., according to federal court documents released Monday. According to a complaint filed in U.S. District Court in Washington, the man, Guy Reffitt, was charged with obstruction of justice and knowingly entering a restricted building without lawful authority. In an affidavit, an FBI agent described Reffitt as an apparent militia member who traveled from suburban Dallas to Washington with a Smith & Wesson pistol to help "protect his country." In an interview with the FBI, Reffitt's son said his father told his family that he had gone to the Capitol while wearing a GoPro camera attached to a helmet. Reffitt is alleged to have later threatened to "put a bullet through" his daughter's cellphone if she recorded or mentioned his comments on social media, the affidavit says. Reffitt's wife told investigators that during an argument, he told his children that if one of them turned him in, "you're a traitor and you know what happens to traitors ... traitors get shot." His wife, who said Reffitt was a member of the far-right 3 Percenters militia group, added that he is prone to "extreme" statements and that she did not believe he would act on his words, the affidavit says. "Militia group," huh. Here I thought III% was a T shirt company. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 12:23:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is he the guy that threatened his family over it? Threats that were apparently not unjustified... |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 12:23:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: One of the team leaders in my former reserve unit is on a regional FBI SWAT team. He was an "operator" on active duty before the reserves, went to a SOC reserve unit, and does FBI SWAT now. His SWAT team has a bunch of Marines and former ARSOF guys. They aren't pretenders. Maybe his team is an an anomaly, but I would not bet on it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: What’s the point of owning an apc if you don’t use the apc? It’s a show of force Pretenders pretending. One of the team leaders in my former reserve unit is on a regional FBI SWAT team. He was an "operator" on active duty before the reserves, went to a SOC reserve unit, and does FBI SWAT now. His SWAT team has a bunch of Marines and former ARSOF guys. They aren't pretenders. Maybe his team is an an anomaly, but I would not bet on it. The No. 1 or No. 2 agent from the NYC office in the stack that raided Roger Stone’s home was in my office last year. Another Major with him was flipping him shit for it, lol. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 12:25:12 PM EDT
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Quoted: Some guy went to DC on the 6th. I went to school with him, but different grades. Don't really know the guy other than he was in the Marines late 2000s I believe. - small town of 6000 ish TXDPS, FBI and I believe other people. APC and everything. I'm told he's got 4-5 charges, one being having a firearm or weapon inside the capitol. That's all the details I know. Also with small towns, information gets misunderstood or exaggerated easily, so time will tell Is the dog ok? |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 12:26:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It seems it might be soon. In Baghdad there were huge stockpiles and warehouses full of ordinance of all types that got snatched up. Not to mention half of the police and military were sympathetic to AQ. A better analogy for a domestic conflict would be Budapest in '56. Old women soaping up roadways for tank treads while kids throw molotov's on the tanks from roof tops. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 12:31:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Really surprised we have not yet heard of anyone taking a stand when they come knocking. Wait...is that sarcasm or you being serious? If serious, prepare yourself to be "really surprised" a a lot more. There isn't going to be any armed resistance from the right to this "cleansing". Read a history book, it always ends the same. Those on the right are generally law abiding and have a lot to lose. As long as we still have a lot to lose, we won't fight back en masse. The left knows this. Most people in GD know this too, even if they are ignoring their intuitions and hiding behind calling others names and saying they won't comply. I'm sure I'll get called all kinds of things for my cynicism. None of that will get our nation back though, now will it... |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 12:33:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: FBI regional swat teams are extremely well funded and equipped with little work to do. Gotta use the equipment when you can It’s a good thing they have caught all the human traffickers and murderers. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 12:37:53 PM EDT
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Domestic terrorism is a whitey thing.
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Posted: 1/19/2021 12:39:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The FIB doesn’t phuck around! Yeah. The SS/ Gestapo didn't either. You see where that went... |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 12:41:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wait...is that sarcasm or you being serious? If serious, prepare yourself to be "really surprised" a a lot more. There isn't going to be any armed resistance from the right to this "cleansing". Read a history book, it always ends the same. Those on the right are generally law abiding and have a lot to lose. As long as we still have a lot to lose, we won't fight back en masse. The left knows this. Most people in GD know this too, even if they are ignoring their intuitions and hiding behind calling others names and saying they won't comply. I'm sure I'll get called all kinds of things for my cynicism. None of that will get our nation back though, now will it... That was the other world. I personally know folks that blew their brains out recently that, given the choice, would have picked a different death. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 12:42:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is he the guy thatallegedly threatened his family over it? FIFY |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 12:45:25 PM EDT
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Multiple lessons here. One don’t raise shitheads that you have to threaten not to snitch on you to the feds, two don’t marry a woman who would talk to the feds.
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Posted: 1/19/2021 12:48:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: To be honest, if they ever have reason to come and get ME, I hope they're as scared of me as Biden is of them. this is understated and absolutely correct. Personally, I believe this mindset is fairly pervasive among fed-up law abiding conservatives - that once that last straw lands on their back, no holds are barred. I can only assume you and I are not the only ones to get that sense and that is ultimately what's fueling the fear among the ruling class, and this theater we're watching now. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 12:50:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Remember when those sickly looking kids detonated IEDs in crowds of people, murder a cop, kidnapped a driver, and got into a firefight with police? Stop. Not even close to the same thing Right this was the absolute appropriate response. I cant find the pic but they were rolling through the streets pointing rifles into anyone's windows they wanted too. Entering and searching any house they wanted to. You cool with that?  |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 12:52:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Remember when they rolled through the streets of Boston with armored vehicles pointing their rifles at people in their windows? All that was over two sickly skinny looking kids. Yea, but them skinny shits did a lot of damage, mostly to our rights...  
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Posted: 1/19/2021 12:55:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm a law-abiding citizen. They have no reason to come and get me. If it ever comes to that, then I'm done anyway - they've ginned up enough fake evidence that I'll never see the outside of a prison again. You think you're a law-abiding citizen. Until they decide that the laws mean something else, and you broke them in the past. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 1:00:37 PM EDT
[#20]
“find me the man, and i’ll find you the crime”
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Posted: 1/19/2021 1:11:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They come between 2 and 6 in the morning. Until you have 2-3 families living with each other and keeping a fire watch, we won’t see many stands Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Really surprised we have not yet heard of anyone taking a stand when they come knocking. They come between 2 and 6 in the morning. Until you have 2-3 families living with each other and keeping a fire watch, we won’t see many stands It’s called a dog. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 1:18:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Then someone would use a javelin, and then you guys would cry "Boo hoo drone strikes, not fair!" Everybody wants to be a gangster until its time to do gangster shit. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: "You don't need an RPG" This is correct. You need Javelins. Then someone would use a javelin, and then you guys would cry "Boo hoo drone strikes, not fair!" Everybody wants to be a gangster until its time to do gangster shit. If so, Errydody want to be a thinker until it's time to do thinker shit. 
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Posted: 1/19/2021 1:19:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: One of the team leaders in my former reserve unit is on a regional FBI SWAT team. He was an "operator" on active duty before the reserves, went to a SOC reserve unit, and does FBI SWAT now. His SWAT team has a bunch of Marines and former ARSOF guys. They aren't pretenders. Maybe his team is an an anomaly, but I would not bet on it. Do they believe in the Oath they took? |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 1:22:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm a law-abiding citizen. They have no reason to come and get me. If it ever comes to that, then I'm done anyway - they've ginned up enough fake evidence that I'll never see the outside of a prison again. Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm a law-abiding citizen. They have no reason to come and get me. If it ever comes to that, then I'm done anyway - they've ginned up enough fake evidence that I'll never see the outside of a prison again. You're not law abiding. You commit 3 felonies a day. If they want a reason to come get you there are plenty to choose from. The average professional in this country wakes up in the morning, goes to work, comes home, eats dinner, and then goes to sleep, unaware that he or she has likely committed several federal crimes that day. Why? The answer lies in the very nature of modern federal criminal laws, which have exploded in number but also become impossibly broad and vague. In Three Felonies a Day, Harvey A. Silverglate reveals how federal criminal laws have become dangerously disconnected from the English common law tradition and how prosecutors can pin arguable federal crimes on any one of us, for even the most seemingly innocuous behavior. The volume of federal crimes in recent decades has increased well beyond the statute books and into the morass of the Code of Federal Regulations, handing federal prosecutors an additional trove of vague and exceedingly complex and technical prohibitions to stick on their hapless targets. The dangers spelled out in Three Felonies a Day do not apply solely to “white collar criminals,” state and local politicians, and professionals. No social class or profession is safe from this troubling form of social control by the executive branch, and nothing less than the integrity of our constitutional democracy hangs in the balance. We know what happened in the case of QWest before 9/11. They contacted the CEO/Chairman asking to wiretap all the customers. After he consulted with Legal, he refused. As a result, NSA canceled a bunch of unrelated billion dollar contracts that QWest was the top bidder for. And then the DoJ targeted him and prosecuted him and put him in prison for insider trading — on the theory that he knew of anticipated income from secret programs that QWest was planning for the government, while the public didn’t because it was classified and he couldn’t legally tell them, and then he bought or sold QWest stock knowing those things. This CEO’s name is Joseph P. Nacchio and TODAY he’s still serving a trumped-up 6-year federal prison sentence today for quietly refusing an NSA demand to massively wiretap his customers. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 1:23:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm a law-abiding citizen. They have no reason to come and get me. If it ever comes to that, then I'm done anyway - they've ginned up enough fake evidence that I'll never see the outside of a prison again. "I'm a shooter, so I can't be shot." The law isn't a reason to get you. It's a tool they get you with. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 1:28:08 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryGood luck. You are not going out of your house with a lit molotov with the intention of throwing it without getting shot to hell as soon as you step out of your door. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 2:08:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Right this was the absolute appropriate response. I cant find the pic but they were rolling through the streets pointing rifles into anyone's windows they wanted too. Entering and searching any house they wanted to. You cool with that? http://darkroom-cdn.s3.amazonaws.com/2013/04/REU-USA-EXPLOSIONS_BOSTON1.jpg I am not at all. But be honest about what precipitated it. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 2:45:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do they believe in the Oath they took? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: One of the team leaders in my former reserve unit is on a regional FBI SWAT team. He was an "operator" on active duty before the reserves, went to a SOC reserve unit, and does FBI SWAT now. His SWAT team has a bunch of Marines and former ARSOF guys. They aren't pretenders. Maybe his team is an an anomaly, but I would not bet on it. Do they believe in the Oath they took? All of the people I am friends with? Yes. There are, however, a disturbingly high number of people in law enforcement and the military who care primarily about winning- and they'll almost invariably align themselves with whichever group they think will win in any given situation. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 3:04:04 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Wait...is that sarcasm or you being serious? If serious, prepare yourself to be "really surprised" a a lot more. There isn't going to be any armed resistance from the right to this "cleansing". Read a history book, it always ends the same. Those on the right are generally law abiding and have a lot to lose. As long as we still have a lot to lose, we won't fight back en masse. The left knows this. Most people in GD know this too, even if they are ignoring their intuitions and hiding behind calling others names and saying they won't comply. I'm sure I'll get called all kinds of things for my cynicism. None of that will get our nation back though, now will it... People don't like the truth. NO ONE, is winning a war against .gov. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 3:05:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah. The SS/ Gestapo didn't either. You see where that went... Because the USA was there. Who's going to stop it now? |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 3:06:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Remember when those sickly looking kids detonated IEDs in crowds of people, murder a cop, kidnapped a driver, and got into a firefight with police? Stop. Not even close to the same thing Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Remember when they rolled through the streets of Boston with armored vehicles pointing their rifles at people in their windows? All that was over two sickly skinny looking kids. Remember when those sickly looking kids detonated IEDs in crowds of people, murder a cop, kidnapped a driver, and got into a firefight with police? Stop. Not even close to the same thing Yes, the bombers were legitimately bad guys, but does that justify pointing a rifle at a homeowner in their own home, looking out a window to see WTF is going on outside? |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 3:07:01 PM EDT
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Did they shoot his wife while she was holding a baby?
RIP Vicki Weaver. Never forget. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 3:08:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What’s the point of owning an apc if you don’t use the apc? It’s a show of force It's a show of intimidation for all to see. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 3:08:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's called a dog. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Really surprised we have not yet heard of anyone taking a stand when they come knocking. They come between 2 and 6 in the morning. Until you have 2-3 families living with each other and keeping a fire watch, we won't see many stands It's called a dog. Ever heard of a Hush Puppy? 
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Posted: 1/19/2021 3:15:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: FIFY Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Is he the guy thatallegedly threatened his family over it? FIFY That is true. So the Feds get a call that someone they're looking for is allegedly threatening to kill his kids and people think in our Era of modern policing they aren't going to roll armor? |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 3:16:26 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Was it this guy? Who threatened to shoot his kids if they turned him in for going to the capitol. Link Damn. Threatening your own kids?
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Posted: 1/19/2021 3:18:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You talking about extrajudicial killing of an American on American soil? If so, Errydody want to be a thinker until it's time to do thinker shit. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: "You don't need an RPG" This is correct. You need Javelins. Then someone would use a javelin, and then you guys would cry "Boo hoo drone strikes, not fair!" Everybody wants to be a gangster until its time to do gangster shit. If so, Errydody want to be a thinker until it's time to do thinker shit. Oh, my mistake. I thought you guys wanted another Civil War. Turns out you all just want to LARP as modern day tier one rebel minute men one day, then LARP as peaceful and innocent patriotic victims the next day when you find out the government might actually try to fight back. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 3:18:20 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Wait...is that sarcasm or you being serious? If serious, prepare yourself to be "really surprised" a a lot more. There isn't going to be any armed resistance from the right to this "cleansing". Read a history book, it always ends the same. Those on the right are generally law abiding and have a lot to lose. As long as we still have a lot to lose, we won't fight back en masse. The left knows this. Most people in GD know this too, even if they are ignoring their intuitions and hiding behind calling others names and saying they won't comply. I'm sure I'll get called all kinds of things for my cynicism. None of that will get our nation back though, now will it... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Really surprised we have not yet heard of anyone taking a stand when they come knocking. Wait...is that sarcasm or you being serious? If serious, prepare yourself to be "really surprised" a a lot more. There isn't going to be any armed resistance from the right to this "cleansing". Read a history book, it always ends the same. Those on the right are generally law abiding and have a lot to lose. As long as we still have a lot to lose, we won't fight back en masse. The left knows this. Most people in GD know this too, even if they are ignoring their intuitions and hiding behind calling others names and saying they won't comply. I'm sure I'll get called all kinds of things for my cynicism. None of that will get our nation back though, now will it... I’m not going to call you a name but your comment is historically inaccurate. There’s almost always violence when Socialism is trying to be installed. Sometimes they win, sometimes they lose. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 3:20:55 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: When he/you are alone, they can really focus and consolidate resources on your ass. That is how 100 dudes can take 100,000 heavily armed men....one at a time.... |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 3:21:59 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m not going to call you a name but your comment is historically inaccurate. There’s almost always violence when Socialism is trying to be installed. Sometimes they win, sometimes they lose. I think history has proven there is also almost always violence when a democracy or a pro-capitalist government is also trying to be installed. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 3:23:36 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Really surprised we have not yet heard of anyone taking a stand when they come knocking. I wouldn't condemn it. Not anymore. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 3:24:00 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Remember when those sickly looking kids detonated IEDs in crowds of people, murder a cop, kidnapped a driver, and got into a firefight with police? Stop. Not even close to the same thing Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Remember when they rolled through the streets of Boston with armored vehicles pointing their rifles at people in their windows? All that was over two sickly skinny looking kids. Remember when those sickly looking kids detonated IEDs in crowds of people, murder a cop, kidnapped a driver, and got into a firefight with police? Stop. Not even close to the same thing Nicely said! Ignore the DERPS... |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 3:24:16 PM EDT
[#43]
When will the FBI show up at George Soros’ crib with charges of insurrection for the riots last summer?
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Posted: 1/19/2021 3:24:30 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Remember when they rolled through the streets of Boston with armored vehicles pointing their rifles at people in their windows? All that was over two sickly skinny looking kids. They flagged about half the city. Couldn't believe such poor basic handling skills. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 3:28:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: People don't like the truth. NO ONE, is winning a war against .gov. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Wait...is that sarcasm or you being serious? If serious, prepare yourself to be "really surprised" a a lot more. There isn't going to be any armed resistance from the right to this "cleansing". Read a history book, it always ends the same. Those on the right are generally law abiding and have a lot to lose. As long as we still have a lot to lose, we won't fight back en masse. The left knows this. Most people in GD know this too, even if they are ignoring their intuitions and hiding behind calling others names and saying they won't comply. I'm sure I'll get called all kinds of things for my cynicism. None of that will get our nation back though, now will it... People don't like the truth. NO ONE, is winning a war against .gov. Millions? The odds are a little different. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 3:28:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is correct. You need Javelins. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: "You don't need an RPG" This is correct. You need Javelins. At least for the armored cars and APCs that civilian LE uses, I'll bet that anti-tank rifle grenades would be effective, and it's something that could be launched from millions of rifles. I'd love to see that guy who did the book on making an improvised Panzerfaust rocket do one on rifle grenades. Every rifleman could also be a grenadier. Too bad ballistite is hard to find, and mostly old stuff imported decades ago (from Italy, IIRC) when you can find it (it's the powder used for launching cartridges; it's a mix of nitro and TNT). With that and a star crimp, you could make your own launching cartridges. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 3:32:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: One of the team leaders in my former reserve unit is on a regional FBI SWAT team. He was an "operator" on active duty before the reserves, went to a SOC reserve unit, and does FBI SWAT now. His SWAT team has a bunch of Marines and former ARSOF guys. They aren't pretenders. Maybe his team is an an anomaly, but I would not bet on it. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 3:48:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you didn't vote "D" you are next! |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 3:51:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Right this was the absolute appropriate response. I cant find the pic but they were rolling through the streets pointing rifles into anyone's windows they wanted too. Entering and searching any house they wanted to. You cool with that? http://darkroom-cdn.s3.amazonaws.com/2013/04/REU-USA-EXPLOSIONS_BOSTON1.jpg There should be a limit on body armor sizes. JFC those guys should be embarrassed |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 4:06:08 PM EDT
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This comes to mind every time I read an account like this...
 Hut Hut Hut - Blues Brothers - SWAT-scenes |
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