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Posted: 9/23/2023 1:38:10 PM EST
Listening last night to a police officer in a large community and she said they are short staffed. Are people sitting home? Do we have more jobs post covid and not enough workers?

Help me understand.
PWS
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 1:40:09 PM EST
[#1]
The labor participation rate has dropped because some states are paying people more than $100,000 a year to not work and plenty pay more than $80,000.

You want to go look for a job and work or just sit at home and make $40-$50 an hour?

Source.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 1:42:32 PM EST
[#2]
My guess is that they have given up on life.

Many people are coming to the conclusion that modern corporatist western civilization just isn't worth the effort to keep it afloat. So they are finding lots of nice little holes to crawl into where they can wait for the end to come.

These trends have been in place since the 2008 financial crisis. Covidiocy accelerated them to a phenomenal degree.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 1:45:28 PM EST
[#3]
Biden is issuing work permits to 400K Venezuelans to do the jobs Americans will not do.
This should take care of the shortage of skilled and educated workers.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 1:47:06 PM EST
[#4]
Living a dozen to a house or more. Like illegals.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 1:50:14 PM EST
[#5]
Been saying it for years , both sides like cheap unskilled labor to drive wages down. Dems just hope they vote commie.

Link Posted: 9/23/2023 1:52:11 PM EST
[#6]
Stop the 'free' hand outs and most will be willing to work!!  We did this to ourselves!
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 1:52:30 PM EST
[#7]
Around here starting salary for a cop or teacher is about 50k
I have done both of those jobs in the past; cop for a couple years in early 90's and a teacher for 19 years.
A cop now with all the bullshit? No thanks.
Anybody that has never worked in public schools as a teacher has no clue how hard it can be; use to 50% of teachers quit to do something different in the first five years.
Its not worth it, those jobs should pay way more than what they do; that is why there is a shortage of people who want to do them.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 1:52:32 PM EST
[#8]
Shit work for shit pay?
No way.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 1:54:24 PM EST
[#9]
Delivery drivers for Uber and grub hub. I’m convinced that all working age young men have resorted to this so the don’t have any schedule or responsibilities.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 1:57:35 PM EST
[#10]
It’s death by a 1000 cuts.

-Every generation after the boomers has been smaller. With zoomers being the smallest.

-A lot of the lower level jobs offer absolutely nothing in terms of quality of life, pay, or advancement.

-We loose millions of kids a year to mental health problems and drug usage.

-A lot of those jobs Americans are in direct competition with illegals who have no problem with illegal business practices and slave wages.

-Even the traditional white middle class jobs like doctors and engineers are being outsourced to H1B’s,

Meanwhile the only thing BoomerCons can do is whine about how these kids are lazy. Which when they were offered these crap jobs they checked out and were smoking dope on the beach.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 1:58:02 PM EST
[#11]
Who would want to work as a cop for a community that will string you up if anything goes sideways to appease the mob?
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 1:59:42 PM EST
[#12]
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My guess is that they have given up on life.

Many people are coming to the conclusion that modern corporatist western civilization just isn't worth the effort to keep it afloat. So they are finding lots of nice little holes to crawl into where they can wait for the end to come.

These trends have been in place since the 2008 financial crisis. Covidiocy accelerated them to a phenomenal degree.
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@Hesperus

+1

I think these people are accepting a lower standard of living.  It’s becoming the new normal.  Whereas previous generations always did better than their parents, that trend is ending.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 1:59:43 PM EST
[#13]
I got an email from my storage unit inviting me to apply for a list of positions. Where the fuck are people getting enough money to be so fucking fat?
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 2:00:26 PM EST
[#14]
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 2:03:03 PM EST
[#15]
Onlyfans

Crypto

Air B&B “investor”

Service job with 18% minimum gratuity

Covid relief fund fraud

Mommy and Daddy’s basement

Beauty school

Cash only barbershop

ATF gloryhole installation technician

Über driver and Lyft driver, but that’s not their real job. (That would be instacart”

TikTok model/influencer/shill

YouTube “content” creator

DNC operative

Used car salesman ( adjusted market value assessor)

Weed shop owner

Then you have your standard petty criminals in big cities.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 2:04:26 PM EST
[#16]
Maybe 10-20 years from now studies will show that COVID infections have changed people mentally, I work in the public sector and employees and the public are not the same. Something did happen, it’s not just long COVID or depression that some suffer from.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 2:04:31 PM EST
[#17]
Smart and hard working people are finding a niche business which can be a gold mine.

Working for a paycheck (especially in private industry) is for suckers.

People are punished for working when you look at all the payroll deductions; SS, Federal and Local taxes, etc.

Notice rental income, investment income and capital gains are not taxed as heavily as labor (although I am not suggesting non-labor should be taxed more).

Something has to give.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 2:04:53 PM EST
[#18]
Look at recruiting…. Numbers are low and even those who are enlisting are foreigners:

Expedited Citizenship
Job, medical, dental
Schooling now and later

This is a no brainer for someone walking across the boarder.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 2:05:47 PM EST
[#19]
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My guess is that they have given up on life.

Many people are coming to the conclusion that modern corporatist western civilization just isn't worth the effort to keep it afloat. So they are finding lots of nice little holes to crawl into where they can wait for the end to come.

These trends have been in place since the 2008 financial crisis. Covidiocy accelerated them to a phenomenal degree.
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This.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 2:07:35 PM EST
[#20]
I ate lunch today at a place that made me wait for a table while they juggled tasks enough to go clean off a table.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 2:07:57 PM EST
[#21]
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The labor participation rate has dropped because some states are paying people more than $100,000 a year to not work and plenty pay more than $80,000.

You want to go look for a job and work or just sit at home and make $40-$50 an hour?

Source.
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who is paying that much to sit home? Are you talking unemployment?
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 2:09:43 PM EST
[#22]
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@Hesperus

+1

I think these people are accepting a lower standard of living.  It’s becoming the new normal.  Whereas previous generations always did better than their parents, that trend is ending.
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I'm definitely seeing that. Homelessness is becoming a bigger and bigger problem every day. What would have been unacceptable for many people not all that long ago is becoming normal.

I was trapped in Reno Nevada for years. When I finally got out and did some traveling earlier this year I got the overwhelming feeling that people all over this country have given up. Everywhere I went except where I am now, Texas and parts of Florida had businesses shuttered due to lack of employees. If you can't get the people together to run a KFC then where are you going to get the people to run a power plant?

At least we have plenty of drugs, licit and illicit and tech like smartphones to disappear into while we run out of steam.

Link Posted: 9/23/2023 2:11:26 PM EST
[#23]
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Been saying it for years , both sides like cheap unskilled labor to drive wages down. Dems just hope they vote commie.

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They don’t have to get the illegal vote. They provide cheap labor on one side, then turn around and say everyone should be outraged by low wages.

Politicians don’t fix issues, they create them so they have something to campaign on. It’s always the other guys fault.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 2:12:26 PM EST
[#24]
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Quoted:
Onlyfans

Crypto

Air B&B “investor”

Service job with 18% minimum gratuity

Covid relief fund fraud

Mommy and Daddy’s basement

Beauty school

Cash only barbershop

ATF gloryhole installation technician

Über driver and Lyft driver, but that’s not their real job. (That would be instacart”

TikTok model/influencer/shill

YouTube “content” creator

DNC operative

Used car salesman ( adjusted market value assessor)

Weed shop owner

Then you have your standard petty criminals in big cities.
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OnlyFans, Yeesh! Did you know there's an OnlyFans podcast? Possibly the most depressing thing I have ever heard in my life. People who see everything in their life as a piece of meat and/or a resource to be exploited.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 2:13:28 PM EST
[#25]
I made $50,000 a year in 2005 when I dropped out of college to work that job.

I have a girl that drives a forklift that will make $54,000 this year. She works 7a-4p.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 2:15:34 PM EST
[#26]
Massive numbers of Gen X cops hit retirement age last few years. 2020 pushed many to punching out as soon as possible. A lot of these cops were hired during the big hiring push in the 90s.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 2:16:10 PM EST
[#27]
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My guess is that they have given up on life.

Many people are coming to the conclusion that modern corporatist western civilization just isn't worth the effort to keep it afloat. So they are finding lots of nice little holes to crawl into where they can wait for the end to come.

These trends have been in place since the 2008 financial crisis. Covidiocy accelerated them to a phenomenal degree.
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afraid you're right.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 2:19:06 PM EST
[#28]
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 2:20:19 PM EST
[#29]
The baby boom generation was big enough to both provide workers for our massive retail-centric world AND have its share of free spirits, criminals, and losers.  

Now, we still need lots of lower wage workers but have less ability to absorb each loss of a productive worker.

Link Posted: 9/23/2023 2:28:59 PM EST
[#30]
Arby's roast beef sale.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 2:33:56 PM EST
[#31]
If you ask a liberal, they’ll tell you they all died from Covid.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 2:35:32 PM EST
[#32]
There use to be limits on un-employment benefits.

Cut this off, cut off the free medical, cut off SNAP (food stamps), they will go to work
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 2:37:28 PM EST
[#33]
State of Florida accordioned 15 year veteran teacher pay all the way down to 0-year newbies last year.

My district has 500 openings, offering the baseline $47,500, and there are ZERO applicants.

Why the fuck you would suppress pay when you're at an all time high vacancy problem is beyond retarded and DeSantis won't fix it.

I don't know of a school with less than 50% turnover rate year-to-year the last four years. I don't even bother learning my co-workers' names.

Remember when DeSantis wanted veterans in the classroom? The first year, all 6 statewide quit. Last year, 38 of 38 statewide quit. This year, looks like none of the 65 are staying either.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 2:40:11 PM EST
[#34]
Quoted:
Listening last night to a police officer in a large community and she said they are short staffed. Are people sitting home? Do we have more jobs post covid and not enough workers?

Help me understand.
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Because being police in 2023 North America is a shitshow.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 2:41:21 PM EST
[#35]
Let’s see, retail displays goods that get stolen with impunity right in front of them.  Police get told literally who to arrest and who not to arrest.  Teachers lol…….  Factory workers …sounds too unglamorous.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 2:41:25 PM EST
[#36]
They have found better ways to make money. That doesn’t require as much hard ship even if it’s at the expense of having a lot of nice things.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 2:41:45 PM EST
[#37]
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Delivery drivers for Uber and grub hub. I’m convinced that all working age young men have resorted to this so the don’t have any schedule or responsibilities.
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Based @TheWhitePill
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 2:43:51 PM EST
[#38]
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Smart and hard working people are finding a niche business which can be a gold mine.

Working for a paycheck (especially in private industry) is for suckers.

People are punished for working when you look at all the payroll deductions; SS, Federal and Local taxes, etc.

Notice rental income, investment income and capital gains are not taxed as heavily as labor (although I am not suggesting non-labor should be taxed more).

Something has to give.
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I need to find a niche business.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 2:44:11 PM EST
[#39]
Covid exposed a lot of people to the welfare cliff. Entitlement spending is up 50% from pre covid levels.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 2:45:29 PM EST
[#40]
The Marxist plan is working.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 2:46:12 PM EST
[#41]
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OnlyFans, Yeesh! Did you know there's an OnlyFans podcast? Possibly the most depressing thing I have ever heard in my life. People who see everything in their life as a piece of meat and/or a resource to be exploited.
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Quoted:
Quoted:
Onlyfans

Crypto

Air B&B “investor”

Service job with 18% minimum gratuity

Covid relief fund fraud

Mommy and Daddy’s basement

Beauty school

Cash only barbershop

ATF gloryhole installation technician

Über driver and Lyft driver, but that’s not their real job. (That would be instacart”

TikTok model/influencer/shill

YouTube “content” creator

DNC operative

Used car salesman ( adjusted market value assessor)

Weed shop owner

Then you have your standard petty criminals in big cities.


OnlyFans, Yeesh! Did you know there's an OnlyFans podcast? Possibly the most depressing thing I have ever heard in my life. People who see everything in their life as a piece of meat and/or a resource to be exploited.


Because they're atheist materialists. They're disgusting wretches.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 2:48:41 PM EST
[#42]
According to GD those jobs are too easy.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 2:48:44 PM EST
[#43]
Quoted:
Listening last night to a police officer in a large community and she said they are short staffed. Are people sitting home? Do we have more jobs post covid and not enough workers?

Help me understand.
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The vax shot killed the work force off or disabled them
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 2:49:09 PM EST
[#44]
Teachers, like myself, fucking suck. GD tells me all the time.  We are lazy and don't do anything. The people on GD who can't spell or write a coherent sentence should take over. And, commas are hard. Subjects and predicates. Hard. It would be great if you didn’t look like you are 4 years old. Fuck that, sweatpants and crocs at Walmart for fancy dress.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 2:52:15 PM EST
[#45]
I’m convinced that life online has something to do with it.  Like perhaps people are happily getting by on less while living vicariously through social media.  Or more likely social media is steering us into a hyper consumerist mindset where we are indeed living for the moment with no conception of the future.  YOLO bitches be working at Starbucks at 80.
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 2:53:26 PM EST
[#46]
Quoted:
Listening last night to a police officer in a large community and she said they are short staffed. Are people sitting home? Do we have more jobs post covid and not enough workers?
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PAY MORE TO GET PEOPLE.

HOW IS THIS HARD TO UNDERSTAND?
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 2:55:02 PM EST
[#47]
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Around here starting salary for a cop or teacher is about 50k
I have done both of those jobs in the past; cop for a couple years in early 90's and a teacher for 19 years.
A cop now with all the bullshit? No thanks.
Anybody that has never worked in public schools as a teacher has no clue how hard it can be; use to 50% of teachers quit to do something different in the first five years.
Its not worth it, those jobs should pay way more than what they do; that is why there is a shortage of people who want to do them.
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Attachment Attached File
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 2:55:57 PM EST
[#48]
Population growth has slowed drastically and those jobs pay shit for the hassle.  People don't have to do them so they don't
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 2:56:21 PM EST
[#49]
Link Posted: 9/23/2023 2:59:54 PM EST
[#50]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Quoted:
Onlyfans

Crypto

Air B&B “investor”

Service job with 18% minimum gratuity

Covid relief fund fraud

Mommy and Daddy’s basement

Beauty school

Cash only barbershop

ATF gloryhole installation technician

Über driver and Lyft driver, but that’s not their real job. (That would be instacart”

TikTok model/influencer/shill

YouTube “content” creator

DNC operative

Used car salesman ( adjusted market value assessor)

Weed shop owner

Then you have your standard petty criminals in big cities.
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As an example for my millennial friends:

1- Is a machinist and works full-time and has a Masters in Library Sciences lol
1- is a CNC fabricator/designer and is full-time, although he primary designed and built set components for hollywood before the strike
1- went into business for himself using Amazon and Ebay as the medium, he's going out of business and shifting into a different market
Me- I'm getting into YouTube content creation and currently sucking at it, but getting better
1- still active duty and getting ready for E-8 looks

I was a warehouse manager making $17/hour before being laid-off, but I don't have a college degree. The best offer I've received for normal work is a full-time store assistant manager for $14.50/hour. Not even worth my time at that pay.
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