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Posted: 10/17/2021 9:58:20 PM EDT
[#1]
Of course they are.
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Posted: 10/17/2021 10:00:05 PM EDT
[#2]
What a bunch of dolts. The point is more and more about controlling people.
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Posted: 10/17/2021 10:00:57 PM EDT
[#3]
They come for my gas stove, those fascists get the oven.
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Posted: 10/17/2021 10:01:46 PM EDT
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The Biden administration's climate plan also calls for government incentives that would encourage people to switch from residential gas to all-electric. IOW, make citizens as dependent on heavily-regulated electric utilities as possible. We can't have people cooking with their own energy sources! |
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Posted: 10/17/2021 10:04:36 PM EDT
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I like having diverse fuel in my home. If the power goes out I still have heat. I can still cook food and boil water if needed.
Let's go Brandon! |
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Posted: 10/17/2021 10:05:20 PM EDT
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Just wait until these nitwits force builders to switch from gas heat to electric heating systems. The homes that were forced to have electric heat in the 1970's absolutely sucked ass during the winter. Didn't matter which type, electric baseboard, electric-resistance with forced air, electric heat pumps, electric radiating wall panels, they all sucked ass.
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Posted: 10/17/2021 10:05:58 PM EDT
[#7]
Socialist think they need to give the gas to people. They are just confused about which gas.
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Posted: 10/17/2021 10:06:14 PM EDT
[#8]
I have several hills that I will die on defending - my gas range is one of them!!!
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Posted: 10/17/2021 10:06:42 PM EDT
[#9]
So, my gas burner stove that heats water faster and stops generating heat immediately upon turning it off will cause more heat cost than an electric where the burners are engaged and hotter for a much longer time to do the same task.
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Posted: 10/17/2021 10:09:15 PM EDT
[#10]
I am surprised building inspectors and fire marshals aren't pushing for this already.
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Posted: 10/17/2021 10:10:38 PM EDT
[#11]
I will never have a house without a gas range, gas dryer, gas furnace or gas water heater.
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Posted: 10/17/2021 10:13:09 PM EDT
[#12]
fuck these people, all of them
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Posted: 10/17/2021 10:13:30 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have several hills that I will die on defending - my gas range is one of them!!! My message is simple. Leave. Me. The. Fuck. Alone. |
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Posted: 10/17/2021 10:13:49 PM EDT
[#14]
How is it better for the environment for me to use electricity generated by burning natural gas, than to burn natural gas?
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Posted: 10/17/2021 10:15:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/17/2021 10:16:01 PM EDT
[#16]
Meh, they’re mostly silly range toys. I can still cook meat over an open fire.
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Posted: 10/17/2021 10:18:48 PM EDT
[#17]
Fuck it
I’m buying a gas stove just ftfoi |
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Posted: 10/17/2021 10:18:54 PM EDT
[#18]
It's like they made a list of every single thing that is good in America - and are now trying to do away with all of them.
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Posted: 10/17/2021 10:20:27 PM EDT
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Not much natural gas distribution here in Central FL, so we have a stove hooked to propane. Works fine for several months on a regular grill tank. I don't use enough to get a delivery service and the 100 lb tanks are a pain to haul. I keep a couple 100 lb tanks plus a bunch of 20 lbs to run the generator.
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Posted: 10/17/2021 10:20:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How is it better for the environment for me to use electricity generated by burning natural gas, than to burn natural gas? When you control when you burn it then it’s bad. When the government has the power to regulate how much a power company burns then it’s good. PS…neighboring states should shut off all utilities to California and force them to figure it out on their own. No more free ride to use as a blueprint for the commie takeover of the rest of this country. |
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Posted: 10/17/2021 10:21:18 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just wait until these nitwits force builders to switch from gas heat to electric heating systems. The homes that were forced to have electric heat in the 1970's absolutely sucked ass during the winter. Didn't matter which type, electric baseboard, electric-resistance with forced air, electric heat pumps, electric radiating wall panels, they all sucked ass. No waiting in Washington state, for some municipalities. Bans on Natural Gas being rolled out already. King Inslee will just blame COVID when people start freezing to death during the electrical blackouts. |
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Posted: 10/17/2021 10:24:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just wait until these nitwits force builders to switch from gas heat to electric heating systems. The homes that were forced to have electric heat in the 1970's absolutely sucked ass during the winter. Didn't matter which type, electric baseboard, electric-resistance with forced air, electric heat pumps, electric radiating wall panels, they all sucked ass. Still do, hate my heat pumps. Oil was “okay”, but I vastly prefer wood heat. |
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Posted: 10/17/2021 10:26:07 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/17/2021 10:29:38 PM EDT
[#24]
Living in a northern climate our power goes out a few time in the winter. Keeping food cold when it’s 0° outside isn’t difficult. Heating the home and cooking without gas would be an issue. I wonder how they’d feel about burning would.
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Posted: 10/17/2021 10:30:20 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: IOW, make citizens as dependent on heavily-regulated electric utilities as possible. We can't have people cooking with their own energy sources! |
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Posted: 10/17/2021 10:43:00 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I am surprised building inspectors and fire marshals aren't pushing for this already. Why, because those idiots don't think electric stoves that get red hot can't cause fires? Always love when an electric oven element breaks and shorts against the range body and continues to arc even after it's shut off. That is when people who don't have the breaker marked start to freak the hell out. |
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Posted: 10/17/2021 10:46:04 PM EDT
[#27]
From my cold, dead hands.
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Posted: 10/17/2021 11:03:11 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/17/2021 11:07:24 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I like having diverse fuel in my home. If the power goes out I still have heat. I can still cook food and boil water if needed. Let's go Brandon! This. It’s how I was able to keep cooking food during the freeze earlier this year. I prefer a gas stove. |
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Posted: 10/17/2021 11:16:07 PM EDT
[#30]
How easily can a home gas stove / oven be converted to run off 20lb propane tanks?
When I was in Europe, home I stayed at used a 20lb Propane tank for the burners on the stove, while the oven was electric. It was nice, when the power went out the burners still worked, and the burners were independent of any external gas interruption as well. |
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Posted: 10/17/2021 11:16:40 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How is it better for the environment for me to use electricity generated by burning natural gas, than to burn natural gas? They would probably claim that the gas burned at power plants is "cleaner" than gas burned in a stove. OTOH, there are significant losses involved in: 1. Converting the gas to heat at the power plant, 2. Using that heat to produce steam, 3. Using that steam to produce mechanical power in a turbine, 4. Converting that mechanical power to electrical power in a generator, 5. Converting the voltage produced by the generator to a different voltage suitable for transmission over long distances, 6. Transmitting that power over long distances, 7. Converting the transmission line voltage to a different voltage suitable for local distribution, 8. Converting the distribution voltage to a different voltage suitable for use at the residence, and finally 9. Converting that electrical power back into heat again at the stove. Every single one of those steps wastes energy - which requires more gas be consumed in order to replace it. |
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Posted: 10/17/2021 11:23:48 PM EDT
[#32]
I'd like to recommend stop trafficking, taking organs from, and been a sexual deviant towards kids.
That usurper in the WH does all of those things. His whole decrepit life. How about that be a target of someone with integrity? How about the Clinton kill count? Nah, gas stoves and whites are the issue. |
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Posted: 10/17/2021 11:24:02 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: When you control when you burn it then it’s bad. When the government has the power to regulate how much a power company burns then it’s good. PS…neighboring states should shut off all utilities to California and force them to figure it out on their own. No more free ride to use as a blueprint for the commie takeover of the rest of this country. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: How is it better for the environment for me to use electricity generated by burning natural gas, than to burn natural gas? When you control when you burn it then it’s bad. When the government has the power to regulate how much a power company burns then it’s good. PS…neighboring states should shut off all utilities to California and force them to figure it out on their own. No more free ride to use as a blueprint for the commie takeover of the rest of this country. I already ran the math last year. The fed gov will never allow interstate sanctions. For values of allow. |
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Posted: 10/17/2021 11:26:23 PM EDT
[#34]
I have induction. Works fine. Supplement with one of those jap burners that uses butane bottles and I get by.
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Posted: 10/17/2021 11:27:51 PM EDT
[#35]
They need to die in a fucking fire
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Posted: 10/17/2021 11:34:37 PM EDT
[#36]
All electric sucks ass.
Just ask the apartment dwellers in TX this past Feb. |
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Posted: 10/17/2021 11:38:04 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They come for my gas stove, those fascists get the oven. |
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Posted: 10/17/2021 11:43:05 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How easily can a home gas stove / oven be converted to run off 20lb propane tanks? When I was in Europe, home I stayed at used a 20lb Propane tank for the burners on the stove, while the oven was electric. It was nice, when the power went out the burners still worked, and the burners were independent of any external gas interruption as well. A propane grill can do most things already. If you want it for emergency back up purposes, I would just buy a propane camping oven, or propane pizza oven. |
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Posted: 10/17/2021 11:55:55 PM EDT
[#39]
Fuck them, I won't live in a house that doesn't have a gas stove. Plus, they work when the power is out.
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Posted: 10/17/2021 11:57:59 PM EDT
[#40]
Fine. I'll cook over burning tires.
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Posted: 10/17/2021 11:59:07 PM EDT
[#41]
They are approving new power plants and installing more powerlines for all this "green" energy, right?
Right? I need that pademe and anakin meme... |
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Posted: 10/18/2021 12:00:45 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Fuck them, I won't live in a house that doesn't have a gas stove. Plus, they work when the power is out. Don't worry, you won't need to cook when you are being re-educationed in a FEMA camp. |
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Posted: 10/18/2021 12:02:30 AM EDT
[#43]
I read somewhere that America wastes $4B a year on energy produced by wall transformers that are plugged into devices that are turned off.
Yet, no energy is wasted when I'm not using my gas stove. That reminds me, it's time to turn up the temp of my gas heated hot water tank. |
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Posted: 10/18/2021 12:02:55 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why, because those idiots don't think electric stoves that get red hot can't cause fires? Always love when an electric oven element breaks and shorts against the range body and continues to arc even after it's shut off. That is when people who don't have the breaker marked start to freak the hell out. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I am surprised building inspectors and fire marshals aren't pushing for this already. Why, because those idiots don't think electric stoves that get red hot can't cause fires? Always love when an electric oven element breaks and shorts against the range body and continues to arc even after it's shut off. That is when people who don't have the breaker marked start to freak the hell out. People don't realize how close they are to 240v |
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Posted: 10/18/2021 12:08:49 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How easily can a home gas stove / oven be converted to run off 20lb propane tanks? When I was in Europe, home I stayed at used a 20lb Propane tank for the burners on the stove, while the oven was electric. It was nice, when the power went out the burners still worked, and the burners were independent of any external gas interruption as well. it takes about an hour on a new range and the cook top is easy but the oven and broiler take some disassembly and tinkering to get right. |
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Posted: 10/18/2021 12:16:15 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They would probably claim that the gas burned at power plants is "cleaner" than gas burned in a stove. Quote HistoryQuoted: They would probably claim that the gas burned at power plants is "cleaner" than gas burned in a stove. It is cleaner, because it isn't in your house. Quoted: OTOH, there are significant losses involved in: Every single one of those steps wastes energy - which requires more gas be consumed in order to replace it. Gas is burned in gas plants that are somewhere between 30% and 60% efficient, transmitted to your house at 90% efficiency and then used for induction cooking. That's about 25-50% thermally efficient. Compared to just burning the gas in your kitchen at 40% efficiency. But your range uses about 2.5% of your household energy, your furnace and your water heater use more, and heat pump versions of both are significantly more efficient in all but the coldest weather. |
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Posted: 10/18/2021 12:21:29 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just wait until these nitwits force builders to switch from gas heat to electric heating systems. The homes that were forced to have electric heat in the 1970's absolutely sucked ass during the winter. Didn't matter which type, electric baseboard, electric-resistance with forced air, electric heat pumps, electric radiating wall panels, they all sucked ass. I think NYC bans gas for all new construction |
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Posted: 10/18/2021 12:22:15 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't worry, you won't need to cook when you are being re-educationed in a FEMA camp. All of the food will be vegan, raw and sometimes fermented for our health. The protein choices will be soy and insects 
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Posted: 10/18/2021 12:25:03 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I think NYC bans gas for all new construction Proposed but not implemented. Most of the gas ban action is on the West Coast where installing a furnace in a new home is stupid anyway. If you're heating load on a new house is under 24,000 BTUs where are you going to find a furnace that small anyway? |
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Posted: 10/18/2021 12:26:20 AM EDT
[#50]
Glad I have my own gas well.
#LetsGoBrandon |
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