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Posted: 9/14/2021 8:58:03 PM EDT
[#1]
America is fucking gay now.
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Posted: 9/14/2021 9:00:49 PM EDT
[#2]
Possible unemployment if she's fired?
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Posted: 9/14/2021 9:01:06 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’d get fired. No way I’m leaving voluntarily. That's my feeling. BTW, my wife is very close to being in the same boat, so I understand. I can't wait until we are in the same "were you fired illegally, if so, you may be entitled to compensation" crowd. 
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Posted: 9/14/2021 9:03:04 PM EDT
[#4]
Man, I wish we had a reporter that would do a story on why all these nurses are leaving.
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Posted: 9/14/2021 9:06:38 PM EDT
[#5]
Make them fire her.
It’s only a few more months, but the benefits could be huge. |
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Posted: 9/14/2021 9:07:04 PM EDT
[#6]
The wife doesn't want the shot either and we're discussing the upsides to being fired or resigning her position as an RN. It sounds like a few others on her floor are planning to walk as well. They're already talking about paying more than double the normal wage to have people come in to cover shifts. If a half dozen quit from her floor, it's going to get really ugly for the hospital.
We're comfortable with the prospects of no income for a few months. I get the feeling this vaccine mandate will be quietly swept under the rug when hospitals figure out how bad they'll be hurting. I hope so, at least. |
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Posted: 9/14/2021 9:09:31 PM EDT
[#7]
Fired, 110%. My wife did the quit before firing thing in education a couple years ago. Made her feel good at the time, but she frequently regrets it now- in a big way.
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Posted: 9/14/2021 9:09:31 PM EDT
[#8]
get let go. absolutely.
my hospital system is preparing for 10-15% out the door in Nov. |
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Posted: 9/14/2021 9:12:21 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's a damn shame what this country has come to.  Forced and coerced, is no way to live. |
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Posted: 9/14/2021 9:15:32 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’d get fired. No way I’m leaving voluntarily. Agreed. Unless there was a new gig lined up at risk of losing. |
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Posted: 9/14/2021 9:15:35 PM EDT
[#11]
I think any decision should be based wholly and solely on whether this will impact your ability to go fishing.
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Posted: 9/14/2021 9:15:49 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’d get fired. No way I’m leaving voluntarily. Some were threatening for cause which means you could jeopardize your license. Depends on the state and facility |
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Posted: 9/14/2021 9:25:51 PM EDT
[#13]
IT in healthcare here. Turned in my Medical, still waiting for it to be excepted. Deadline for me is Oct 18th. Im waiting to get fired, then Ill be taking over my dads gunsmithing shop full time. Something Ive been working at for 30 years.
So I guess it could be a win win. but man Im going to miss them healthcare bucks. |
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Posted: 9/14/2021 9:32:00 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I think any decision should be based wholly and solely on whether this will impact your ability to go fishing. That depends. Maybe I can make a trout fishing convert out of her. If not, she can sit at the cabin. 
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Posted: 9/14/2021 9:32:40 PM EDT
[#15]
An acquaintance is a nursing student. She went into anaphylaxis and had to go to the E.R after her first jab. Now she cant get the second jab and thus is going to be kicked out of nursing school. She may have dodged a bullet
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Posted: 9/14/2021 9:33:15 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Stick it out and help force the issue to help other not in her position that are being forced to fight or submit. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Done with it and the mandate after 42 years of birthing babies. Three already quit in her unit this month. She's on the edge of waiting to get fired Nov.1, or just leave now and be done with the whole thing. I told her to stick around and get fired on the chance of a lawsuit down the road. Stick it out and help force the issue to help other not in her position that are being forced to fight or submit. This, make them fire her, and then she can help all the other healthcare workers in the lawsuit. I work in the healthcare industry, no mandates yet in Oklahoma, but we'll see. I won't take any vaccine. Much less an experimental one...that includes the "approved" one. What's the long term side effects?  We don't know but it's totally zafe! Lol. Killed thousands... but it's safe. Caused hundreds of heat attacks... But it's safe and effective. Doesn't work anymore.. But it's effective.
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Posted: 9/14/2021 9:35:37 PM EDT
[#17]
Please encourage her to hold out. Make them fire her.
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Posted: 9/14/2021 9:39:46 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: why would she get fired with so much experience? bad relations with nursing manager? I've interacted with admin for long enough to know most are incompetent psychos only worried about their next bonus. They won't hesitate to fuck over a nurse for a bonus. |
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Posted: 9/14/2021 9:42:07 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Some were threatening for cause which means you could jeopardize your license. Depends on the state and facility Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I’d get fired. No way I’m leaving voluntarily. Some were threatening for cause which means you could jeopardize your license. Depends on the state and facility Nurse Practice Laws don't cover forced participation in medical experiments. Ymmv. |
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Posted: 9/14/2021 9:45:29 PM EDT
[#20]
Make it as hard on them as she can.
And best of luck. Look at the job market. Should be promising. |
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Posted: 9/14/2021 9:46:46 PM EDT
[#21]
Sorry to hear that, OP. I know several nurses who are quitting as well.
This is the untold consequence of mandates. Many excellent (underpaid) workers are signing off. Also- I understand that hospital capacity is calculated using staff as part of the denominator…so forcing nurses out and keeping techs from returning to work with the crazy unemployment benefits actually juices the numbers. Many “over capacity” hospitals have plenty of beds and doctors. |
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Posted: 9/14/2021 9:48:57 PM EDT
[#22]
good for her. don't comply
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Posted: 9/14/2021 9:49:03 PM EDT
[#23]
I've got two more weeks in this fucking hospital.
They're cutting back on surgical cases, and not for the reasons you might think. Covid cases are declining, but staffing nearing the end of September (the deadline to take the mandatory job) is suffering badly. Take an already short staffed facility and run off people who've faithfully worked there for years, or decades in some cases......you deserve what you've got coming. *not bitter* |
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Posted: 9/14/2021 9:50:34 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: An acquaintance is a nursing student. She went into anaphylaxis and had to go to the E.R after her first jab. Now she cant get the second jab and thus is going to be kicked out of nursing school. She may have dodged a bullet That's the real kicker, I completed my schooling before I became antivaccine. I'm pretty sure I would have been kicked out for not being vaccinated. This was a long, long time ago. The shot my titre was low on was mmr iirc, when i got the shot it gave me tardive disconesia for several months, And so did the help b shot I got at my first employer. No fucking way will I take another shot, for any reason. I still suffer side effects occasionally from those two shots. Ps fuck auto correct  Between the woke doctrine and the mandates... future healthcare workers will be .gov worshiping drones. |
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Posted: 9/14/2021 9:51:24 PM EDT
[#25]
Let them fire her.
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Posted: 9/14/2021 9:53:54 PM EDT
[#26]
Can a business force her to take a vaccine that is not FDA approved?
Conformity, the FDA approved version, is not out yet. Is the company going to assume liability for taking a non FDA approved vaccine? She can say she wants liability protection by waiting for Conformity to come out. If the company wants to assume liability for taking the emergency pfizer vaccine and pay for hospitalization and disability if something happens they need to get that in writing. |
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Posted: 9/14/2021 9:55:36 PM EDT
[#27]
I'm really looking forward to all the firings.
(Actually, I think they'll call the whole thing off, but we'll see). let's get this party started. definitely would wait until they fired me. |
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Posted: 9/14/2021 9:56:48 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: An acquaintance is a nursing student. She went into anaphylaxis and had to go to the E.R after her first jab. Now she cant get the second jab and thus is going to be kicked out of nursing school. She may have dodged a bullet Previous allergic reaction is not considered a legit reason for vaccine refusal (flu shot) yes, they expect you to risk death for their fucking jabs. |
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Posted: 9/14/2021 9:57:51 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Let them fire her. I keep telling her that. She's possibly leaving a huge amount of money on the table down the road by quitting. |
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Posted: 9/14/2021 9:58:17 PM EDT
[#30]
Quoted: Done with it and the mandate after 42 years of birthing babies. Three already quit in her unit this month. She's on the edge of waiting to get fired Nov.1, or just leave now and be done with the whole thing. I told her to stick around and get fired on the chance of a lawsuit down the road. One of the hospitals in NNY just shut down the maternity ward. They won't deliver babies because staff did not get the jab and they resigned. |
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Posted: 9/14/2021 9:58:57 PM EDT
[#31]
The gov't/Democrats were fully aware of what would happen when they forced the jab on private business.
Everything they do is designed to weaken and diminish America's greatness (destroy our economy, our businesses, the middle class, military, morals, history, our culture, and protect lawlessness while prosecuting the lawful). All of which is necessary to usher the US into the one-world globalist-commie utopia. I agree with many, make them fire you and litigate. |
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Posted: 9/14/2021 9:59:06 PM EDT
[#32]
Quoted: Done with it and the mandate after 42 years of birthing babies. Three already quit in her unit this month. She's on the edge of waiting to get fired Nov.1, or just leave now and be done with the whole thing. I told her to stick around and get fired on the chance of a lawsuit down the road. She should insist on being fired no question. |
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Posted: 9/14/2021 10:00:09 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Can a business force her to take a vaccine that is not FDA approved? Conformity, the FDA approved version, is not out yet. Is the company going to assume liability for taking a non FDA approved vaccine? She can say she wants liability protection by waiting for Conformity to come out. If the company wants to assume liability for taking the emergency pfizer vaccine and pay for hospitalization and disability if something happens they need to get that in writing. "I don't believe in vaccines because of religious or philosophical beliefs" |
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Posted: 9/14/2021 10:02:10 PM EDT
[#34]
Quoted: Done with it and the mandate after 42 years of birthing babies. Three already quit in her unit this month. She's on the edge of waiting to get fired Nov.1, or just leave now and be done with the whole thing. I told her to stick around and get fired on the chance of a lawsuit down the road. WV here too. Mine gets canned tmrw. RN. 21 yrs experience. Valedictorian of nursing class, 4.0 etc. Not taking it. Refused religious exemption option. We're Christians, but religion has nothing to do, well...not a lot to do with her reasons for not taking it. God will provide... |
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Posted: 9/14/2021 10:06:13 PM EDT
[#35]
My wife is done as well. She will not take the shot and is so pissed at what, 'health care' has become.
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Posted: 9/14/2021 10:06:28 PM EDT
[#36]
Make them fire her and agree to and sign NOTHING. Escort her off the property. Don't be ugly, but make them play their hand all the way out.
They will want to make it look voluntary, they will try to cover their ass. They know what is going to end up coming down the pipe. |
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Posted: 9/14/2021 10:12:12 PM EDT
[#37]
There's not an insignificant number retail pharmacists here who are ready to walk too. The Forced Jab (for which they have no proper drug info, btw) plus the working conditions of having to maintain script fill volumes on top of layoffs at the start of Covid and stepping away constantly to give shots and tests. A shot or test means several bottles of pills don't get filled.
A lot of healthcare and insurance execs are going to have problems making beach condo payment next year. |
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Posted: 9/14/2021 10:15:14 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Please encourage her to hold out. Make them fire her. |
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Posted: 9/14/2021 10:16:23 PM EDT
[#39]
I've got to ask, at that age what's the risk? Is this just to make a political statement or is she actually worried about health concerns that late in life?
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Posted: 9/14/2021 10:27:42 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I've got to ask, at that age what's the risk? Is this just to make a political statement or is she actually worried about health concerns that late in life? Really? Was she some sort of "Hero" for working for almost two years through this up until this point? Now she's an "untouchable". |
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Posted: 9/14/2021 10:30:25 PM EDT
[#41]
I can’t imagine my facility rejecting religious exemption requests and putting themselves at risk for lawsuits… but then again, administrators often do dumb shit.
Ours has so far said all existing physicians, providers and ancillary staff are required to have it. But existing nurses weren’t mentioned other than to say they expect everyone to be required by 2022. |
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Posted: 9/14/2021 10:30:50 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: STICK IT OUT! Like others have said, if she is terminated and any reversals come down, she may be entitled to lost income. Yup. |
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Posted: 9/14/2021 10:37:00 PM EDT
[#43]
My wife works at a hospital to and will be fired November 2nd. Funny thing is she’s working with the team who’s trying to figure out how many people will not get the jab and what capacity percentage the hospital and it’s clinics will be able to run at after November 2nd. As of right now 33% have stated they will not take the jab. 76% of doctors have said they will not take it. They figure the hospital will be down to 15% capacity starting in November if they fire everyone who won’t get the jab.
This country is about to have a serious health care problem. |
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Posted: 9/14/2021 10:43:16 PM EDT
[#44]
I will be either quitting or getting fired from my management job at a hospital on November 1st when I don't get the COVID Vaccine, but in all fairness those of you lambasting hospital admins need to recognize they are stuck between a rock and a hard place.
The Biden Admin has mandated healthcare workers get vaccinated, and has threatened loss of Medicaid/Medicare funding as the punishment for non-compliance. No hospital can keep it's doors open without that CMS reimbursement. Conversely, if enough nurses/staff quit the hospitals also can't keep their doors open. The former of those choices is a guaranteed hospital closure, while the latter you may survive if enough nurses/staff get vaccinated and you can plug your staffing holes with traveling nurses. |
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Posted: 9/14/2021 10:46:23 PM EDT
[#45]
Wife quit over a mask mandate a year ago and hasn’t looked back.
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Posted: 9/14/2021 10:47:34 PM EDT
[#46]
She doesn't need to quit nursing. They don't remover her experience and knowledge from her brain.
She can go private, cash only, no names, in home care. Like a hooker but doing nurse duties. |
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Posted: 9/14/2021 10:49:18 PM EDT
[#47]
The feds actions are to create a liability buffer for employers. No one is getting anything that is fired. Insurance companies wouldn’t allow this unless they knew the end game. No reversals are coming without indemnity.
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Posted: 9/14/2021 10:49:39 PM EDT
[#48]
When I want to leave a job that has become unbearable, I make the mfkrs fire me.
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Posted: 9/14/2021 10:51:23 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We're comfortable with the prospects of no income for a few months. I get the feeling this vaccine mandate will be quietly swept under the rug when hospitals figure out how bad they'll be hurting. I hope so, at least. |
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Posted: 9/14/2021 11:04:17 PM EDT
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