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Posted: 1/26/2021 10:22:35 AM EDT
460 lb base model, still has a 5 speed and shit suspension
well done Kawasaki http://www.kawasaki.com/en-us/motorcycle/klr/dual-sport/klr650?cm_re=FEATUREDVEHICLESLANDING-_-FEATUREDVEHICLES-_-VEHICLEBUCKET |
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I thought the KLR was being discontinued? Couldn't achieve emissions standards anymore or something like that.
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I see those bikes and instantly think about 5 Middle Aged men, wearing highlighter suits and as many panier boxes as they can find
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Quoted: I thought the KLR was being discontinued? Couldn't achieve emissions standards anymore or something like that. View Quote This morning was their big release of the new klr. Lots of people were waiting to see what the new bikes they were releasing with hopes of something......definitely not what people were hoping for |
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They will sell well. The carb'd model did for decades. Agree it is chunky, but for 90% of the people it will be more than adequate.
It's not supposed to compete with a KTM 690. |
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Ive always been a huge Kawasaki fanboi ....except for their KLRs
Honda XLs, XRs and XRLs for on-off road riding, thank you very much |
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Sooo....its basically the same as a 1994 KLR650.
I had a KLR. It was slow for a motorcycle, it was heavy, but it was nearly indestructible. I think someone on this forum bought it. |
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Lame.
But they’ll sell them to wannabe, budget ADV types “who prefer simplicity” |
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This video sums it up.
Japanese v European motorbikes - did Honda, Yamaha, Kawasaki & Suzuki lose their mojo? |
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Kawasaki built some fast street bikes, but not so great dirt bikes. Back in ‘73-74 all the new dirt bikes came out and the 250 Kawasaki was 40 lbs heavier than the rest and 5-6 horsepower down. But just like most gun magazines you had the writers of the motorcycle magazines jacking off like crazy about the new Kawasaki. All except ‘Dirt Bike’ magazine, the editor took a picture of the new bike in a fucking pig pen, and called the bike for being an underpowered, overweight turd.
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I rode a KLR once, on a Jeep trail that was rough and had a steep downhill section. I'm a pretty good rider but it was all I could do to keep that behemoth underneath me.
The Yamaha WR and Suzuki DRZ are more my style, and I have had no reliability issues with mine. |
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What a fucking failure. It should have been a parallel twin.
I was a KLR owner, and everything that I ended up not liking on the bike is still there. They phoned it in and three plastic and a few bobbins at it and called it “new”. Sorry kawi, being cheap isn’t a big enough attraction anymore. |
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I mean it's cheap, that's the point of the klr, hopefully it's as relaible. Probably a good thing they didn't change too much, to many changes is just inviting reliability issues. Sure a Yamaha tenere is 2x as good but it's a lot more money.
People that compare a drz400 or a honda xl don't know what a adv bike is lol. |
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Quoted: Little bit more expensive but weighs the same has tons more power and better suspension. View Quote I’m struggling to understand who would buy this bike.... the kind of rider that buys a middleweight adventure bike is a guy who isn’t on a ramen and water starvation diet anymore. There aren’t many guys that would look past a T7 or 890 ADV to get one of these. |
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Bold new graphics.
That bike is, and has always been, a weak and heavy garden tractor. It's only virtue is that it's cheap. It's not even the most reliable of the big bore/big three...I'd put the XR650L against it and it's faulty dookickey any day, and the DR650 is arguably a better overall package as far as build quality. If there's a spectrum of dual sports and on one end is light, powerful, capable dirt machine, then the KLR sits like a fat bitch with a donut smeared on her face at the other end, telling you how she's very reliable...even tho she's got gout. |
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Quoted: Kinda This morning was their big release of the new klr. Lots of people were waiting to see what the new bikes they were releasing with hopes of something......definitely not what people were hoping for View Quote The only release I cared about this morning was the new Triumph Speed Triple RS 1200......! Holy Balls, I want this bike. |
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Full disclosure, I have a 2005 klr650. I like them. Decent bikes.
BUT WHY WOULDN'T YOU PUT A SIXTH GEAR IN THERE?! omg that's the worst part, wrapped up on slab buzzing like a mad hornet, every once in a while lifting your foot and hoping another gear magically appeared in there at some point |
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I had an '86 klr 600. Buddy bought an 86 XR 600 at the same time.
All dirt miles, I totalled mine in about a year. Broke the underseat subframe and the swingarm developed a nice long crack. Last kawasaki I will own. |
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Quoted: Full disclosure, I have a 2005 klr650. I like them. Decent bikes. BUT WHY WOULDN'T YOU PUT A SIXTH GEAR IN THERE?! omg that's the worst part, wrapped up on slab buzzing like a mad hornet, every once in a while lifting your foot and hoping another gear magically appeared in there at some point View Quote The Japanese hate 6 speed gear boxes on dual sports...except for the WRR, which was so great they stopped making them. |
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Looks like the same bike with a TBI in place of a carb.
That being said, screw 'em. Since our local dealer refused to work on my ZG1000 because it was a 2001 model... but would work on a 2007 which is the same bike.. I won't darken their door for any reason. |
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Quoted: That's pretty standard for a newer adv bike View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: 460lbs Yeah, that's a heavy pig. Jebus. That's pretty standard for a newer adv bike My 1250GSA, with almost twice the displacement, weighs only 90 pounds more and delivers over 3 times the power. |
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Quoted: The Japanese hate 6 speed gear boxes on dual sports...except for the WRR, which was so great they stopped making them. View Quote |
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Quoted: I’m struggling to understand who would buy this bike.... the kind of rider that buys a middleweight adventure bike is a guy who isn’t on a ramen and water starvation diet anymore. There aren’t many guys that would look past a T7 or 890 ADV to get one of these. View Quote It will outsell either of those bikes by magnitudes, I would bet money on it. As for weight you guys are acting like it is terrible when the truth is if it does really weigh 460 that is with a six gallons of fuel and abs. That isn't bad by todays standards. Yes I know it weighs a lot more than your 80cc dirt bike but for an ADV bike its pretty good. So what did they change? Almost everything everyone wanted. ABS, Fuel injection, Better brakes, and more available wattage coupled with LED headlights. As well they didn't go way out of the park on this so the reliability is still there. Yes, they missed out on that sixth gear. ETA: You guys want to hate this bike so much that most of you can't be the least bit objective. |
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Quoted: 460 lb base model, still has a 5 speed and shit suspension View Quote Jesus. Well, at least it will have a low center of gravity and a ton of power for all that weight. Are they just refurbishing ancient KLRs? |
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Quoted: Holy crap. That's a whole 12lb lighter than a 1200cc GSA. https://assets.shannons.com.au/U8FFA2O5DXCMY1GD/IQ63042DFJF97M98/7uajz245qwvy0e4q/jpg/2400x1800x3/vehicle/2014-bmw-r1200gsa.jpg View Quote I hate to break this to you but you are off by over 100 pounds. |
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There are A LOT of people out here who ride those
We work on at least one a week doing a service or tires Not my style but they are definitely popular |
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Quoted: It will outsell either of those bikes by magnitudes, I would bet money on it. As for weight you guys are acting like it is terrible when the truth is if it does really weigh 460 that is with a six gallons of fuel and abs. That isn't bad by todays standards. Yes I know it weighs a lot more than your 80cc dirt bike but for an ADV bike its pretty good. So what did they change? Almost everything everyone wanted. ABS, Fuel injection, Better brakes, and more available wattage coupled with LED headlights. As well they didn't go way out of the park on this so the reliability is still there. Yes, they missed out on that sixth gear. ETA: You guys want to hate this bike so much that most of you can't be the least bit objective. View Quote Found the KLR owner. |
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Quoted: Quoted: It will outsell either of those bikes by magnitudes, I would bet money on it. As for weight you guys are acting like it is terrible when the truth is if it does really weigh 460 that is with a six gallons of fuel and abs. That isn't bad by todays standards. Yes I know it weighs a lot more than your 80cc dirt bike but for an ADV bike its pretty good. So what did they change? Almost everything everyone wanted. ABS, Fuel injection, Better brakes, and more available wattage coupled with LED headlights. As well they didn't go way out of the park on this so the reliability is still there. Yes, they missed out on that sixth gear. ETA: You guys want to hate this bike so much that most of you can't be the least bit objective. Found the KLR owner. Oh' I have owned several and have ridden one all through Mexico and Central America. But I do not currently own one. |
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Quoted: My 1250GSA, with almost twice the displacement, weighs only 90 pounds more and delivers over 3 times the power. View Quote My point exactly, only 90lbs is a lot on a single track where 3 times the power won't help. My main point was adv bikes are heavy, the klr isn't exceptionally heavy. The klr is a 60/40 bike at best, where a 1250gsa is a 80/20. It's all about what your goals are. |
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So, it's the same old pig but with abs, fi, and a usb port?
That sum it up? |
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Quoted: My point exactly, only 90lbs is a lot on a single track where 3 times the power won't help. My main point was adv bikes are heavy, the klr isn't exceptionally heavy. The klr is a 60/40 bike at best, where a 1250gsa is a 80/20. It's all about what your goals are. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: My 1250GSA, with almost twice the displacement, weighs only 90 pounds more and delivers over 3 times the power. My point exactly, only 90lbs is a lot on a single track where 3 times the power won't help. My main point was adv bikes are heavy, the klr isn't exceptionally heavy. The klr is a 60/40 bike at best, where a 1250gsa is a 80/20. It's all about what your goals are. Not to mention its not 90 pounds it's actually closer to 120 pounds. |
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Quoted: Holy crap. That's a whole 12lb lighter than a 1200cc GSA. https://assets.shannons.com.au/U8FFA2O5DXCMY1GD/IQ63042DFJF97M98/7uajz245qwvy0e4q/jpg/2400x1800x3/vehicle/2014-bmw-r1200gsa.jpg View Quote Adorable street tires on that bike, that's every gsa ever, to expensive to drop and thrash on some rocky trail |
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