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Posted: 12/1/2022 10:41:56 AM EDT
Just had my first cavity drilled and filled, may still end up needing a root canal but hopefully the dentist was right and the filling is the end of it... for now.
I'm pretty careful about sugar, brush regularly, avoid the stereotypical sugar foods like candy ice cream cereal breakfast bars etc. The amount of sugar in damn near everything is staggering, from now on if it ain't natural I'm not eating it, looking closely at stuff I thought had minimal sugar, it doesn't. Why is there so much sugar added to everything? stuff that doesn't need a lick more of sugar has x grams added, stuff that shouldn't need sugar at all has it in droves. No wonder diabetes and obesity are going through the roof. One could almost say its a conspiracy, why is there so much sugar in everything? |
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The sugar acts as a preservative and masks the taste of poor quality ingredients that keep getting pushed to lower cost.
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The American palate has become accustomed to it.
Sugar is cheap filler to add flavor to cheap shit food. To get you addicted to shit food. |
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Sugar makes things taste good so they put it in everything.
I only eat what I prepare from home which makes it easy to avoid things you don't want...unless you buy shit that is already made. I buy single ingredients and combine them in certain measures. |
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I hear this from my wife, weekly.
She's doing everything she can to keep our kids away from becoming addicted to it and getting the betus. |
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Welcome to the 1960s. My Mom was worried about sugar in breakfast cereals back when I was in elementary school.
Sugar tastes good and kids like sugar. Of course food processors are going to add it to everything. |
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Quoted: Just had my first cavity drilled and filled, may still end up needing a root canal but hopefully the dentist was right and the filling is the end of it... for now. I'm pretty careful about sugar, brush regularly, avoid the stereotypical sugar foods like candy ice cream cereal breakfast bars etc. The amount of sugar in damn near everything is staggering, from now on if it ain't natural I'm not eating it, looking closely at stuff I thought had minimal sugar, it doesn't. Why is there so much sugar added to everything? stuff that doesn't need a lick more of sugar has x grams added, stuff that shouldn't need sugar at all has it in droves. No wonder diabetes and obesity are going through the roof. One could almost say its a conspiracy, why is there so much sugar in everything? View Quote I went through this about two or three years ago. Now anytime I eat anything sugary, which is VERY rare, I get a headache. Other foods which I used to consider bland taste much better now too. I'll never go back. |
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Part of the problem is that most people don't understand that carbohydrates are sugar. Pasta, potatoes, bread, all of it... carbs are just a longer chain of glucose molecules tied together than the simple sugars. Polysaccharides vs. mono/disacharrides.
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Quoted: Part of the problem is that most people don't understand that carbohydrates are sugar. Pasta, potatoes, bread, all of it... carbs are just a longer chain of glucose molecules tied together than the simple sugars. Polysaccharides vs. mono/disacharrides. View Quote Good point, I know this yet I still haven't been careful enough. |
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Sugar fires pleasure receptors in the brain. It's added to foods to make you crave their product, eat more, and boost sales -- health be dammed.
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Sugar is bad but isn't as bad as vegetable oil, which is in more things.
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I purchased some Kroger brand little sausages recently and the top three ingredients were "pork, corn syrup, beef".
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I hate added sugar, but I love natural sugar. I wouldn't enjoy going a few days without fruit.
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Quoted: The American palate has become accustomed to it. Sugar is cheap filler to add flavor to cheap shit food. To get you addicted to shit food. View Quote The first two. It's cheap and makes most things taste good increasing sales. The latter some percentage of people, guessing a minority though. Most people don't become addicts of things. To those of us used to it, stuff without sweeteners often taste bland. |
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Americans are fat
Went to Europe for a few weeks. Everyone was in good shape, even the chain smokers. Landed in St. Louis and I could hear the heavy breathing everywhere. |
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When wife started doing Whole 30 diets sugar is one of the main thing you have to look for , along with a number of other negative crap. It was amazing to me to see the amounts of sugar dumped into all kinds of products.
Shit is worse than crack |
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Quoted: why is there so much sugar in everything? View Quote because when you put a shitload of sugar in it, more people buy it |
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Quoted: Part of the problem is that most people don't understand that carbohydrates are sugar. Pasta, potatoes, bread, all of it... carbs are just a longer chain of glucose molecules tied together than the simple sugars. Polysaccharides vs. mono/disacharrides. View Quote This is really disturbing to me. I sort of knew it was probably the case, but I haven't looked into it yet. I have been losing weight for months, and my doctor keeps telling me to consume calories, ANY calories. For a while I was eating chocolates, pie, Boost (balanced nutritional drink full of several forms of sugar), along with potatoes, bread, and pasta. I had tests run last week and my glucose level is way above upper limit of safe. I am pre-diabetic at 108 pounds. He prescribed a drug to stimulate my appetite, which is not needed. I stuff myself with "healthy" foods constantly, to the point of being uncomfortably full most of the day. What can I eat that will NOT drive me into type 2 diabetes? |
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When they decided fat was the cause of all ills and tried to eliminate it from every food, they had to replace it with something so it would remain palatable.
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Quoted: This is really disturbing to me. I sort of knew it was probably the case, but I haven't looked into it yet. I have been losing weight for months, and my doctor keeps telling me to consume calories, ANY calories. For a while I was eating chocolates, pie, Boost (balanced nutritional drink full of several forms of sugar), along with potatoes, bread, and pasta. I had tests run last week and my glucose level is way above upper limit of safe. I am pre-diabetic at 108 pounds. He prescribed a drug to stimulate my hunger, which is not needed. I stuff myself with "healthy" foods constantly, to the point of being uncomfortably full most of the day. What can I eat that will NOT drive me into type 2 diabetes? View Quote 7 calories per gram versus the 4 calories per gram for carbohydrates and proteins. |
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Yep, most people are addicted to sweets, and with the tax-subsidized corn, HFCS, it makes it almost a free substitute for sugar, so sweetness is every where.
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Quoted: This is really disturbing to me. I sort of knew it was probably the case, but I haven't looked into it yet. I have been losing weight for months, and my doctor keeps telling me to consume calories, ANY calories. For a while I was eating chocolates, pie, Boost (balanced nutritional drink full of several forms of sugar), along with potatoes, bread, and pasta. I had tests run last week and my glucose level is way above upper limit of safe. I am pre-diabetic at 108 pounds. He prescribed a drug to stimulate my appetite, which is not needed. I stuff myself with "healthy" foods constantly, to the point of being uncomfortably full most of the day. What can I eat that will NOT drive me into type 2 diabetes? View Quote that sounds like type 1 diabetes |
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Quoted: I hear this from my wife, weekly. She's doing everything she can to keep our kids away from becoming addicted to it and getting the betus. View Quote Good on her. My Mom did everything she could to keep us off the junk when we were growing up. Anything boxed or processed was not allowed in our house. She made everything from scratch. Our snacks were good quality cheeses and fruits. When I was a kid, I thought it was annoying. All of these other kids got to drink Cokes and eat cereal whenever they wanted. As an adult, I truly appreciate what she did for us. |
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For those of you who want to avoid sugar/HFCS, salt, and fats, avoid eating out or limit eating out. Cook your own food so that you can control the amount of sugar, fats, and salt. East fresh chicken, vegetables etc, real rice; eat fresh fruits and vegetables, you will not only be healthier, but you will also save money.
For example, I put dried tomatoes on my pasta, most restaurants don't put that in because it costs like 10x more than salt and oils since they are a profit making entity. Remember fat carries the taste. |
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Sugar is awesome! It's a treat. People are slops with no discipline.
Even fat losers can buy a snickers bar/trophy. |
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Quoted: This is really disturbing to me. I sort of knew it was probably the case, but I haven't looked into it yet. I have been losing weight for months, and my doctor keeps telling me to consume calories, ANY calories. For a while I was eating chocolates, pie, Boost (balanced nutritional drink full of several forms of sugar), along with potatoes, bread, and pasta. I had tests run last week and my glucose level is way above upper limit of safe. I am pre-diabetic at 108 pounds. He prescribed a drug to stimulate my appetite, which is not needed. I stuff myself with "healthy" foods constantly, to the point of being uncomfortably full most of the day. What can I eat that will NOT drive me into type 2 diabetes? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Part of the problem is that most people don't understand that carbohydrates are sugar. Pasta, potatoes, bread, all of it... carbs are just a longer chain of glucose molecules tied together than the simple sugars. Polysaccharides vs. mono/disacharrides. This is really disturbing to me. I sort of knew it was probably the case, but I haven't looked into it yet. I have been losing weight for months, and my doctor keeps telling me to consume calories, ANY calories. For a while I was eating chocolates, pie, Boost (balanced nutritional drink full of several forms of sugar), along with potatoes, bread, and pasta. I had tests run last week and my glucose level is way above upper limit of safe. I am pre-diabetic at 108 pounds. He prescribed a drug to stimulate my appetite, which is not needed. I stuff myself with "healthy" foods constantly, to the point of being uncomfortably full most of the day. What can I eat that will NOT drive me into type 2 diabetes? Our concept of "healthy" foods has been shaped by the USDA's food pyramid, which is basically a load of crap. Try keto. Just try it. You don't have to listen to either the keto evangelists or the detractors; give strict keto an honest try for 30 days and then evaluate things for yourself. |
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Quoted: Salt too. My A1c was 6.4 so no more sugar for me. View Quote BTW budget more for natural foods because fresh anything is expensive. The processed foods uses a lower grades of whatever and so it can be less expensive. |
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Sugar is a cheap filler that adds flavor and gets you addicted. Hence the use of many forms of it in processed food, along with sodium in mass quantities(flavor boost, preservative).
Fat is not bad for you IF you eat good fats like avocados, olive oil, fish oils, nuts, etc. Just balance it with your proteins. |
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Quoted: Part of the problem is that most people don't understand that carbohydrates are sugar. Pasta, potatoes, bread, all of it... carbs are just a longer chain of glucose molecules tied together than the simple sugars. Polysaccharides vs. mono/disacharrides. View Quote This... Take any vegetable or fruit, and digest (process) it enough, and you will eventually end up with C6 H12 O6. It is better if you body digests the carbohydrates rather than consuming pre-digested fructose, sucrose and glucose but it is what it is. I'm closing in on 70, brush my teeth and floss and regularly visit the dentist, exercise daily and I am slim and have my teeth. You can compensate for all that sugar by proper lifestyle decisions that most people fail to make. |
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I stopped eating nearly anything with sugar a few months back, feel 1000% better...
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Quoted: Our concept of "healthy" foods has been shaped by the USDA's food pyramid, which is basically a load of crap. Try keto. Just try it. You don't have to listen to either the keto evangelists or the detractors; give strict keto an honest try for 30 days and then evaluate things for yourself. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Part of the problem is that most people don't understand that carbohydrates are sugar. Pasta, potatoes, bread, all of it... carbs are just a longer chain of glucose molecules tied together than the simple sugars. Polysaccharides vs. mono/disacharrides. This is really disturbing to me. I sort of knew it was probably the case, but I haven't looked into it yet. I have been losing weight for months, and my doctor keeps telling me to consume calories, ANY calories. For a while I was eating chocolates, pie, Boost (balanced nutritional drink full of several forms of sugar), along with potatoes, bread, and pasta. I had tests run last week and my glucose level is way above upper limit of safe. I am pre-diabetic at 108 pounds. He prescribed a drug to stimulate my appetite, which is not needed. I stuff myself with "healthy" foods constantly, to the point of being uncomfortably full most of the day. What can I eat that will NOT drive me into type 2 diabetes? Our concept of "healthy" foods has been shaped by the USDA's food pyramid, which is basically a load of crap. Try keto. Just try it. You don't have to listen to either the keto evangelists or the detractors; give strict keto an honest try for 30 days and then evaluate things for yourself. @AR-10 when you say they "ran tests" were you fasting for that blood glucose? Did they check A1C? If you were told you were "pre-diabetic" that could be as low as an instant blood glucose level of 125, which is high when fasted, but absolutely normal if not fasted. Increasing fat intake will increase your caloric intake, but you want to do it while you continue eating carbohydrates if arresting weight loss is the primary goal. ETA: I'm not anti-keto I think you just misread his issue since its pretty rare people have trouble putting weight ON. |
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Quoted: I went through this about two or three years ago. Now anytime I eat anything sugary, which is VERY rare, I get a headache. Other foods which I used to consider bland taste much better now too. I'll never go back. View Quote Bingo. I gave up most sugar/carbs in 1999, and now, if I eat any high sugar food, I feel ill. One slice of cake, and in an hour or so, pounding headache and feel sick to my stomach. Sugar, especially white sugar and corn syrup, is the devil. |
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Corn syrup is in everything
So is salt. Both need to be reduced in our food. |
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Def Leppard - Pour Some Sugar On Me; by The Iron Cross |
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Quoted: Welcome to the 1960s. My Mom was worried about sugar in breakfast cereals back when I was in elementary school. Sugar tastes good and kids like sugar. Of course food processors are going to add it to everything. View Quote My mother was a nurse. She refused to buy sugar cereal, and rarely had sugar in the house. Plus too sugar became very expensive at one time in the 70s. I remember my mother refusing to pay the price for a 5# bag of sugar. |
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Quoted: He does not want to go keto. He's trying to halt or reverse weight loss while keeping blood glucose in check. Going keto will certainly improve his blood glucose but ultimately reduce his appetite and caloric intake. @AR-10 when you say they "ran tests" were you fasting for that blood glucose? Did they check A1C? If you were told you were "pre-diabetic" that could be as low as an instant blood glucose level of 125, which is high when fasted, but absolutely normal if not fasted. Increasing fat intake will increase your caloric intake, but you want to do it while you continue eating carbohydrates if arresting weight loss is the primary goal. ETA: I'm not anti-keto I think you just misread his issue since its pretty rare people have trouble putting weight ON. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Part of the problem is that most people don't understand that carbohydrates are sugar. Pasta, potatoes, bread, all of it... carbs are just a longer chain of glucose molecules tied together than the simple sugars. Polysaccharides vs. mono/disacharrides. This is really disturbing to me. I sort of knew it was probably the case, but I haven't looked into it yet. I have been losing weight for months, and my doctor keeps telling me to consume calories, ANY calories. For a while I was eating chocolates, pie, Boost (balanced nutritional drink full of several forms of sugar), along with potatoes, bread, and pasta. I had tests run last week and my glucose level is way above upper limit of safe. I am pre-diabetic at 108 pounds. He prescribed a drug to stimulate my appetite, which is not needed. I stuff myself with "healthy" foods constantly, to the point of being uncomfortably full most of the day. What can I eat that will NOT drive me into type 2 diabetes? Our concept of "healthy" foods has been shaped by the USDA's food pyramid, which is basically a load of crap. Try keto. Just try it. You don't have to listen to either the keto evangelists or the detractors; give strict keto an honest try for 30 days and then evaluate things for yourself. @AR-10 when you say they "ran tests" were you fasting for that blood glucose? Did they check A1C? If you were told you were "pre-diabetic" that could be as low as an instant blood glucose level of 125, which is high when fasted, but absolutely normal if not fasted. Increasing fat intake will increase your caloric intake, but you want to do it while you continue eating carbohydrates if arresting weight loss is the primary goal. ETA: I'm not anti-keto I think you just misread his issue since its pretty rare people have trouble putting weight ON. I missed the part about not losing weight... but yeah, while it's still possible to gain weight on keto, it sounds like there's something else going on there (like Type 1). Being underweight and pre-diabetic is pretty unusual. Good point about the glucose tests. Time of day can affect it too; people usually have a 'rush' of glucose early in the morning that is your body's way of helping you wake up. Getting your own meter and doing your own testing really helps to understand the patterns, which is (IMHO) more significant than a spot-check of the numbers. |
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When I started my low carb diet, then switched to Keto I found out the staggering amount of sugar in everything. Read the labels.
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