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Posted: 10/8/2019 2:13:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/8/2019 3:09:06 PM EDT by GoatBoy]
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Thank you for taking the time to do this.
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Originally Posted By beitodesstrafe:
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Reported.
Link Posted: 10/8/2019 2:18:53 PM EDT
will we know where the “outside pressure” previously referenced is coming from?
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Originally Posted By tooBeaucoup:
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Originally Posted By beitodesstrafe:
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Reported.
Link Posted: 10/8/2019 2:19:43 PM EDT
So Pinochet memes are back.
Link Posted: 10/8/2019 2:20:23 PM EDT
Soooo... It’s Amazon.
Link Posted: 10/8/2019 2:20:26 PM EDT
Finally, a response thread. Only took like 10 locked/nuked threads and a few locks to get answers to the whole class.

This thread is appreciated.
Link Posted: 10/8/2019 2:21:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By walkinginadangerzone:
Finally, a response thread. Only took like 10 locked/nuked threads and a few locks to get answers to the whole class.

This thread is appreciated.
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From the radioactive crater of an entire digital continent, we now have an answer.
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Originally Posted By GoatBoy:
There is no outside pressure from anyone. I've said it 100x already. People have misconstrued the above discussions to infer outside pressure. We are human and as such some folks did not understand the conversation above and felt there was some pressure from AWS to act a certain way. At the end of the day, all I asked was that we enforce the rules and stop slacking and ignoring over the top comments asking for violence.
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Originally Posted By GoatBoy:
Originally Posted By rogueboss:
will we know where the “outside pressure” previously referenced is coming from?
There is no outside pressure from anyone. I've said it 100x already. People have misconstrued the above discussions to infer outside pressure. We are human and as such some folks did not understand the conversation above and felt there was some pressure from AWS to act a certain way. At the end of the day, all I asked was that we enforce the rules and stop slacking and ignoring over the top comments asking for violence.
That is reasonable. We’re all human. Some mistakes may have been made with the initial tightened enforcement, and some communication errors have occurred. However, restricting direct calls for specific violence is fairly reasonable.

Wholesale banning of abstractions wasn’t going to work though, and probably did not reflect the Commanders Intent.
Link Posted: 10/8/2019 2:25:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By GoatBoy:
There is no outside pressure from anyone. I've said it 100x already. People have misconstrued the above discussions to infer outside pressure. We are human and as such some folks did not understand the conversation above and felt there was some pressure from AWS to act a certain way. At the end of the day, all I asked was that we enforce the rules and stop slacking and ignoring over the top comments asking for violence.
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Originally Posted By GoatBoy:
Originally Posted By rogueboss:
will we know where the "outside pressure" previously referenced is coming from?
There is no outside pressure from anyone. I've said it 100x already. People have misconstrued the above discussions to infer outside pressure. We are human and as such some folks did not understand the conversation above and felt there was some pressure from AWS to act a certain way. At the end of the day, all I asked was that we enforce the rules and stop slacking and ignoring over the top comments asking for violence.
So helicopter memes?

Obviously photoshopping an individuals face on a free falling commie could be construed as a threat of violence but the general notion of tossing communists from helicopters?


or
Link Posted: 10/8/2019 2:25:53 PM EDT
In on 1 for this inevitable shitfest
Link Posted: 10/8/2019 2:26:15 PM EDT
I read it a couple times but I am not sure if the sample memes are acceptable or not.
Link Posted: 10/8/2019 2:26:37 PM EDT
All of that seems like common sense. Other than the love of drama why do people have trouble with this stuff?
Link Posted: 10/8/2019 2:27:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By QUACK32:
I read it a couple times but I am not sure if the sample memes are acceptable or not.
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Nor I.

I don't possibly see how the AOC one could be verboten but the stick figure one has been up for debate a lot lately.
Link Posted: 10/8/2019 2:28:01 PM EDT
In the old days, a really stupid comment would get you a punch in the face. I guess in the Internet Age, not everyone understands what is or is not face-punchable.
Link Posted: 10/8/2019 2:29:24 PM EDT
It seems like there an awful lot of grey area and things left to interpretation. There's been some seriously weak warnings handed out for basically nothing. But I hear the site makes more off of me if I'm not a platinum member, so maybe that's why I get the hate?

I can completely understand limiting hate and threats, it just seems some would limit any comment they don't absolutely agree with. It kind of creates an echo chamber IMHO. But what do I know? I still wear headbands from the 80's...
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Originally Posted By Mike_Golf:
In the old days, a really stupid comment would get you a punch in the face. I guess in the Internet Age, not everyone understands what is or is not face-punchable.
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It’s not the internet. Punching someone in the face for what they say is how you get a felony record.
Link Posted: 10/8/2019 2:31:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By QUACK32:
I read it a couple times but I am not sure if the sample memes are acceptable or not.
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Same here. It appears that the helicopter memes are acceptable. Correct?
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In on one of 87 pages

Thanks for the clarification,hopefully this clears up everything for everyone
Link Posted: 10/8/2019 2:32:27 PM EDT
Thanks for taking the time out to address this
Link Posted: 10/8/2019 2:34:26 PM EDT
TL;DR

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Link Posted: 10/8/2019 2:35:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/8/2019 2:38:13 PM EDT by fla556guy]
I dont disagree about most of your post, however....

Making a meme of AOC that shows her utter stupidity (or that of her followers...aka the eat babies example) is a bridge to far.

Franky, I feel like we have caved to the leftist scum, and that's really what I'm upset by.

They talk about killing us wholesale, they have reps in congress that threaten to nuke us.....and we are getting censored because of non-specific person directed pinochet memes hurting their feelz. I mean....wow.
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Originally Posted By beitodesstrafe:
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Originally Posted By livefreeordieNH:
All of that seems like common sense. Other than the love of drama why do people have trouble with this stuff?
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Ummm, personally, if I join something and go as far as to pay money to join a community that doesn’t suffer from PC and lack of censorship I would prefer it to stay what I payed for. How many things in life do you allow a bait-n-switch after paying?
Link Posted: 10/8/2019 2:36:35 PM EDT
So a few things were posted for leadership and the overzealous mods took it to themselves to interpret how they saw fit and basically went overboard and pissed off a bunch of the membership. Gotcha.
Link Posted: 10/8/2019 2:37:14 PM EDT
Originally Posted By beitodesstrafe:
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Originally Posted By tooBeaucoup:

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Link Posted: 10/8/2019 2:37:35 PM EDT
in 11 years plus of being here and spending hours a day here I have never seen anyone said something like "some one should R** person X"or the above examples and it be left standing for more than a few seconds

but I'm sure Brownells will be much happier with the new push to clap down on all the violent threats to people ...
Link Posted: 10/8/2019 2:37:50 PM EDT
Is this Kosher in the new and improved arfcom?

Link Posted: 10/8/2019 2:39:04 PM EDT
Thank you for taking the time to look into this and writing up the various responses.
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Originally Posted By GoatBoy:
Jokes are fine more so in memes than in type because a meme is generally humor/irony/sarcasm based. Text doesnt always infer the proper attitude or joking manner. So yes the above memes are fine. And No, saying we need to "kill all commies by throwing them from helicopters" is not ok. Confused yet? There has to be some leeway in different forms of expression, that's how today works. We also can't have over the top memes which are racist or hateful in message (or threatening) because they still violate the rules. I don't want to post an example of a meme that goes too far. I imagine most folks can easily identify them.

In short, don't break the big 3 rules with an image or with a comment. It's just not worth it. If you think it's close, then it may get reviewed and acted upon. If you think it's probably wrong, then don't risk it. Use common sense.
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Originally Posted By QUACK32:
I read it a couple times but I am not sure if the sample memes are acceptable or not.
Jokes are fine more so in memes than in type because a meme is generally humor/irony/sarcasm based. Text doesnt always infer the proper attitude or joking manner. So yes the above memes are fine. And No, saying we need to "kill all commies by throwing them from helicopters" is not ok. Confused yet? There has to be some leeway in different forms of expression, that's how today works. We also can't have over the top memes which are racist or hateful in message (or threatening) because they still violate the rules. I don't want to post an example of a meme that goes too far. I imagine most folks can easily identify them.

In short, don't break the big 3 rules with an image or with a comment. It's just not worth it. If you think it's close, then it may get reviewed and acted upon. If you think it's probably wrong, then don't risk it. Use common sense.
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Originally Posted By fla556guy:
I dont disagree about most of your post, however....

Making a meme of AOC that shows her utter stupidity (or that of her followers...aka the eat babies example) is a bridge to far.

Franky, I feel like we have caved to the leftist scum, and that's really what I'm upset by.

They talk about killing us wholesale, they have reps in congress that threaten to nuke us.....and we are getting censored because of pinochet memes hurting their feelz. I mean....wow.
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The sample memes were said to be OK.

I'm guessing AOC memes reflecting her lack of intelligence are OK so long as threats of violence towards her aren't attached. This one should have been obvious to anybody.

The Pinochet stuff. Well the sample image is GTG but the rest...........here be dragons.
Link Posted: 10/8/2019 2:42:27 PM EDT
I appreciate what you are doing, but the legaleze will eventually be the death of this site.

Liberals are masters at using rules of organizations to destroy the very organization the rules were supposed to protect.

Fuck liberals. If you are an obvious liberal that wants to fuck with people and this site, like the underscores, they should just be removed.

Why is it libs have freedom to spout their shit in conservative areas, but we have none in liberal areas.

Fuck all the shit. Burn it down.
Link Posted: 10/8/2019 2:43:05 PM EDT
Fuck all commies
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Originally Posted By sherrick13:
I appreciate what you are doing, but the legaleze will eventually be the death of this site.

Liberals are masters at using rules of organizations to destroy the very organization the rules were supposed to protect.

Fuck liberals. If you are an obvious liberal that wants to fuck with people and this site, like the underscores, they should just be removed.

Why is it libs have freedom to spout their shit in conservative areas, but we have none in liberal areas.

Fuck all the shit. Burn it down.
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Absolutely! 100% right
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Originally Posted By fla556guy:
I dont disagree about most of your post, however....

Making a meme of AOC that shows her utter stupidity (or that of her followers...aka the eat babies example) is a bridge to far.

Franky, I feel like we have caved to the leftist scum, and that's really what I'm upset by.

They talk about killing us wholesale, they have reps in congress that threaten to nuke us.....and we are getting censored because of non-specific person directed pinochet memes hurting their feelz. I mean....wow.
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this is about where I am
Link Posted: 10/8/2019 2:48:56 PM EDT
So, if I read this correctly, this would be acceptable?

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Link Posted: 10/8/2019 2:50:33 PM EDT
The pinochet meme isnt loading in OP, could we get a loaded image so I can save the image to my phone? Only for my personal collection.

Also, thank you for all you do.
Link Posted: 10/8/2019 2:51:02 PM EDT
Wtf. Did Aimless edit remove your meme examples post??

The "What do you want to be when you grow up?" was hilarious!
Link Posted: 10/8/2019 2:51:04 PM EDT
Anyone care to make book on how soon the Dank Memes thread gets locked and vanished?

Because that "I want to be Pinochet when I grow up" is tame compared to many other memes I've seen posted and reposted there.

@mallninjamaster

@waterglass
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Originally Posted By GoatBoy:
Those are all acceptable memes. I think you folks are confused.
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Originally Posted By fla556guy:
I dont disagree about most of your post, however....

Making a meme of AOC that shows her utter stupidity (or that of her followers...aka the eat babies example) is a bridge to far.

Franky, I feel like we have caved to the leftist scum, and that's really what I'm upset by.

They talk about killing us wholesale, they have reps in congress that threaten to nuke us.....and we are getting censored because of non-specific person directed pinochet memes hurting their feelz. I mean....wow.
this is about where I am
Those are all acceptable memes. I think you folks are confused.
No one reads anything these days. It's all pictures now.
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