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Posted: 12/2/2021 7:29:05 PM EDT
[#1]
Both are fast. But I'll take the visceral *brrraaaaaaaaaappp* every time over *hmmmmmmmm*
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Posted: 12/2/2021 7:32:23 PM EDT
[#2]
I’ll never be able to afford either but I’d take the Demon.
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Posted: 12/2/2021 7:36:25 PM EDT
[#3]
Where is our resident 1/8th mile expert at. We just discussed this very type of race the other day.
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Posted: 12/2/2021 7:40:01 PM EDT
[#4]
My 66 Mustang is shaping up to be a high 11 to low 12 second car and it is not being built for 1/4 mile but rather for road course track days.
I am more than happy with everything it can do while assaulting the senses and requiring my concentration. No EV vehicles for me, ever. The push button to signal the car to drive itself is not interesting to me. /edit I post about it a ton because my engine spun the cam when the cam pin sheered on me 2 months ago. First day of a 2 week vacation started with a 1 month old engine eating itself. Looks like I get my engine back next week and with luck the car is running again by christmas. I can hardly wait. |
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Posted: 12/2/2021 7:49:39 PM EDT
[#5]
An actual race car with a warranty. Only in a Dodge.
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Posted: 12/2/2021 7:57:35 PM EDT
[#6]
That might be the most poorly filmed drag race video I've ever seen.
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Posted: 12/2/2021 8:03:29 PM EDT
[#7]
Now do the Hellephant.
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Posted: 12/2/2021 8:22:52 PM EDT
[#8]
Still slower than a Tesla Plaid but very impressive.
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Posted: 12/2/2021 8:26:16 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Still slower than a Tesla Plaid but very impressive. Here's a hint...the left lane was the winner... |
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Posted: 12/2/2021 8:52:01 PM EDT
[#10]
The truck I am building will probably run a 16 in the 1/4 and it will smoke the tires the entire way, and bounce off the walls in both lanes going down the track.
It's perfect for me.
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Posted: 12/2/2021 8:57:58 PM EDT
[#11]
Oh so cool. The electric car blew its load. 35 min until round two..... Now what? It's a novelty and for the price any specific built drag car will absolutely rape it.
Battery and motor tech let alone charging time just isn't there yet. |
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Posted: 12/2/2021 8:59:54 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/2/2021 9:00:45 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/2/2021 9:02:48 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryIf that van was AWD as well. I'd buy it for the lulz. |
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Posted: 12/2/2021 9:03:09 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Both are fast. But I'll take the visceral *brrraaaaaaaaaappp* every time over *hmmmmmmmm* |
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Posted: 12/2/2021 9:09:09 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm with you right up until dodge. I'd take a tesla 3 over any dodge. @slappomatt Too much horsepower and style for you? That's ok. I drive a subaru too. But I take the dodge when I want to have fun.
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Posted: 12/2/2021 9:46:45 PM EDT
[#17]
These threads always seem to forget the NHRA Factory Stock class exists. They smoke Teslas with 7 second runs. Comparable price and anyone can buy one factory direct from the racing division.
These threads always seem to forget the aftermarket. They smoke Teslas with 7 second(or faster) runs. Anyone can buy the parts. |
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Posted: 12/2/2021 9:51:33 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Now do the Hellephant. They need to stick it in something on the production line for it to be considered production. If they have, I haven't heard about it. |
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Posted: 12/2/2021 9:53:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: These threads always seem to forget the NHRA Factory Stock class exists. They smoke Teslas with 7 second runs. Comparable price and anyone can buy one factory direct from the racing division. These threads always seem to forget the aftermarket. They smoke Teslas with 7 second(or faster) runs. Anyone can buy the parts. Very fast. Very expensive. No title. Not street legal. Factory built, race only cars |
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Posted: 12/2/2021 9:58:29 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Very fast. Very expensive. No title. Not street legal. Factory built, race only cars Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: These threads always seem to forget the NHRA Factory Stock class exists. They smoke Teslas with 7 second runs. Comparable price and anyone can buy one factory direct from the racing division. These threads always seem to forget the aftermarket. They smoke Teslas with 7 second(or faster) runs. Anyone can buy the parts. Very fast. Very expensive. No title. Not street legal. Factory built, race only cars https://www.motortrend.com/news/worlds-quickest-street-car-blows-past-record-at-drag-week-2015-test-and-tune/ Street legal 6.05. You are wrong. |
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Posted: 12/2/2021 10:01:51 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Very fast. Very expensive. No title. Not street legal. Factory built, race only cars Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: These threads always seem to forget the NHRA Factory Stock class exists. They smoke Teslas with 7 second runs. Comparable price and anyone can buy one factory direct from the racing division. These threads always seem to forget the aftermarket. They smoke Teslas with 7 second(or faster) runs. Anyone can buy the parts. Very fast. Very expensive. No title. Not street legal. Factory built, race only cars The LO23 dodges from '68 were, IIRC, street legal. Also the plymouth barracuda versions too. I would be kinda surprised if they are not in the 7s now with modern tires, they were in the high eights / low nines when they rolled off the factory floors. |
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Posted: 12/2/2021 10:01:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.motortrend.com/news/worlds-quickest-street-car-blows-past-record-at-drag-week-2015-test-and-tune/ Street legal 6.05. You are wrong. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: These threads always seem to forget the NHRA Factory Stock class exists. They smoke Teslas with 7 second runs. Comparable price and anyone can buy one factory direct from the racing division. These threads always seem to forget the aftermarket. They smoke Teslas with 7 second(or faster) runs. Anyone can buy the parts. Very fast. Very expensive. No title. Not street legal. Factory built, race only cars https://www.motortrend.com/news/worlds-quickest-street-car-blows-past-record-at-drag-week-2015-test-and-tune/ Street legal 6.05. You are wrong. ...and that has exactly what to do with...."These threads always seem to forget the NHRA Factory Stock class exists. They smoke Teslas with 7 second runs. Comparable price and anyone can buy one factory direct from the racing division." |
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Posted: 12/2/2021 10:02:59 PM EDT
[#23]
Tesla plaid is fast, but has zero soul. For a street/strip machine, Ill build my 73 Nova. For roll race killer, Ill take a C6 Corvette with a big ass ProCharger on corn.
This is coming from a former Shelby GT500 owner. |
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Posted: 12/2/2021 10:03:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.motortrend.com/news/worlds-quickest-street-car-blows-past-record-at-drag-week-2015-test-and-tune/ Street legal 6.05. You are wrong. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: These threads always seem to forget the NHRA Factory Stock class exists. They smoke Teslas with 7 second runs. Comparable price and anyone can buy one factory direct from the racing division. These threads always seem to forget the aftermarket. They smoke Teslas with 7 second(or faster) runs. Anyone can buy the parts. Very fast. Very expensive. No title. Not street legal. Factory built, race only cars https://www.motortrend.com/news/worlds-quickest-street-car-blows-past-record-at-drag-week-2015-test-and-tune/ Street legal 6.05. You are wrong. I wonder what times the doorslammer classes are running nowadays, and if any of the leagues require pump gas. I recall reading that one/some of those classes require you to drive it to and from the track. |
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Posted: 12/2/2021 10:20:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ...and that has exactly what to do with...."These threads always seem to forget the NHRA Factory Stock class exists. They smoke Teslas with 7 second runs. Comparable price and anyone can buy one factory direct from the racing division." Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: These threads always seem to forget the NHRA Factory Stock class exists. They smoke Teslas with 7 second runs. Comparable price and anyone can buy one factory direct from the racing division. These threads always seem to forget the aftermarket. They smoke Teslas with 7 second(or faster) runs. Anyone can buy the parts. Very fast. Very expensive. No title. Not street legal. Factory built, race only cars https://www.motortrend.com/news/worlds-quickest-street-car-blows-past-record-at-drag-week-2015-test-and-tune/ Street legal 6.05. You are wrong. ...and that has exactly what to do with...."These threads always seem to forget the NHRA Factory Stock class exists. They smoke Teslas with 7 second runs. Comparable price and anyone can buy one factory direct from the racing division." https://www.nhra.com/news/2020/2021-dodge-challenger-mopar-drag-pak-exposed Factory Dodge runs 7 sec 1/4 mile for $143k. Tesla Plaid goes 9 sec for $131k, but that doesn't include the NHRA required roll cage or chutes for that speed. |
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Posted: 12/2/2021 10:27:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.nhra.com/news/2020/2021-dodge-challenger-mopar-drag-pak-exposed Factory Dodge runs 7 sec 1/4 mile for $143k. Tesla Plaid goes 9 sec for $131k, but that doesn't include the NHRA required roll cage or chutes for that speed. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: These threads always seem to forget the NHRA Factory Stock class exists. They smoke Teslas with 7 second runs. Comparable price and anyone can buy one factory direct from the racing division. These threads always seem to forget the aftermarket. They smoke Teslas with 7 second(or faster) runs. Anyone can buy the parts. Very fast. Very expensive. No title. Not street legal. Factory built, race only cars https://www.motortrend.com/news/worlds-quickest-street-car-blows-past-record-at-drag-week-2015-test-and-tune/ Street legal 6.05. You are wrong. ...and that has exactly what to do with...."These threads always seem to forget the NHRA Factory Stock class exists. They smoke Teslas with 7 second runs. Comparable price and anyone can buy one factory direct from the racing division." https://www.nhra.com/news/2020/2021-dodge-challenger-mopar-drag-pak-exposed Factory Dodge runs 7 sec 1/4 mile for $143k. Tesla Plaid goes 9 sec for $131k, but that doesn't include the NHRA required roll cage or chutes for that speed. "The production run of the 50-unit, non-VIN,...” It’s a bad ass factory built race car. Not street legal. I will take ICE every time over electric. But you’re comparing apples to oranges. One is a fast ass electric street car. The other is fast ass dedicated strip car. |
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Posted: 12/2/2021 10:28:47 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm with you right up until dodge. I'd take a tesla 3 over any dodge. 
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Posted: 12/2/2021 10:34:31 PM EDT
[#28]
Since it's a street car let's do what a lot of the street events do and have a cruise of 25-75 miles and then 3 back to back passes within 1 hour after you arrive at the track.
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Posted: 12/2/2021 10:38:14 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: "The production run of the 50-unit, non-VIN,...” It’s a bad ass factory built race car. Not street legal. I will take ICE every time over electric. But you’re comparing apples to oranges. One is a fast ass electric street car. The other is fast ass dedicated strip car. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: These threads always seem to forget the NHRA Factory Stock class exists. They smoke Teslas with 7 second runs. Comparable price and anyone can buy one factory direct from the racing division. These threads always seem to forget the aftermarket. They smoke Teslas with 7 second(or faster) runs. Anyone can buy the parts. Very fast. Very expensive. No title. Not street legal. Factory built, race only cars https://www.motortrend.com/news/worlds-quickest-street-car-blows-past-record-at-drag-week-2015-test-and-tune/ Street legal 6.05. You are wrong. ...and that has exactly what to do with...."These threads always seem to forget the NHRA Factory Stock class exists. They smoke Teslas with 7 second runs. Comparable price and anyone can buy one factory direct from the racing division." https://www.nhra.com/news/2020/2021-dodge-challenger-mopar-drag-pak-exposed Factory Dodge runs 7 sec 1/4 mile for $143k. Tesla Plaid goes 9 sec for $131k, but that doesn't include the NHRA required roll cage or chutes for that speed. "The production run of the 50-unit, non-VIN,...” It’s a bad ass factory built race car. Not street legal. I will take ICE every time over electric. But you’re comparing apples to oranges. One is a fast ass electric street car. The other is fast ass dedicated strip car. So which one do you want? The street legal car I linked earlier that's faster than a Tesla or the factory direct car that's faster than a Tesla? I've shown both. |
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Posted: 12/2/2021 10:41:11 PM EDT
[#30]
Something you will never hear a Tesla owner say “best 2 out of 3”
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Posted: 12/2/2021 10:41:48 PM EDT
[#31]
Dodge or ICE, because it makes noise that gets me excited.
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Posted: 12/2/2021 10:43:12 PM EDT
[#32]
I don't care how fast Teslas are.
Give me an ICE any day of the week. |
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Posted: 12/2/2021 10:53:01 PM EDT
[#33]
1/8th mile? Weak
Demon all day though |
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Posted: 12/2/2021 11:08:10 PM EDT
[#34]
If the quoted HP of the Dodge is right, the Tesla would not have gained back the difference already present in the 1/8th, unless it's aero was FAR, FAR superior, and it's not.
If that Demon was 1200hp, it would have just continued to hold the advantage or open the advantage as that distance ran out to 1/4. |
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Posted: 12/2/2021 11:41:39 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So which one do you want? The street legal car I linked earlier that's faster than a Tesla or the factory direct car that's faster than a Tesla? I've shown both. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: These threads always seem to forget the NHRA Factory Stock class exists. They smoke Teslas with 7 second runs. Comparable price and anyone can buy one factory direct from the racing division. These threads always seem to forget the aftermarket. They smoke Teslas with 7 second(or faster) runs. Anyone can buy the parts. Very fast. Very expensive. No title. Not street legal. Factory built, race only cars https://www.motortrend.com/news/worlds-quickest-street-car-blows-past-record-at-drag-week-2015-test-and-tune/ Street legal 6.05. You are wrong. ...and that has exactly what to do with...."These threads always seem to forget the NHRA Factory Stock class exists. They smoke Teslas with 7 second runs. Comparable price and anyone can buy one factory direct from the racing division." https://www.nhra.com/news/2020/2021-dodge-challenger-mopar-drag-pak-exposed Factory Dodge runs 7 sec 1/4 mile for $143k. Tesla Plaid goes 9 sec for $131k, but that doesn't include the NHRA required roll cage or chutes for that speed. "The production run of the 50-unit, non-VIN,...” It’s a bad ass factory built race car. Not street legal. I will take ICE every time over electric. But you’re comparing apples to oranges. One is a fast ass electric street car. The other is fast ass dedicated strip car. So which one do you want? The street legal car I linked earlier that's faster than a Tesla or the factory direct car that's faster than a Tesla? I've shown both. "These threads always seem to forget the NHRA Factory Stock class exists. They smoke Teslas with 7 second runs. Comparable price and anyone can buy one factory direct from the racing division” In a thread about a factory built electric street car and a factory built ICE street car, you posted that^^. I showed you that the NHRA stock class cars that "anyone can buy one factory direct from the racing division” that you are comparing the street car to, aren’t street legal. The first car you posted had nothing with to do with anything. The second car you posted proved exactly what I said. |
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Posted: 12/3/2021 12:35:38 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @slappomatt Too much horsepower and style for you? That's ok. I drive a subaru too. But I take the dodge when I want to have fun. |
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Posted: 12/3/2021 5:02:45 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryFalse...it's a fast street car thread. Both cars are impressive and I'm not a Dodge or Tesla fan just showing respect for two fast true street cars. |
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Posted: 12/3/2021 5:05:40 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 1/8th mile? Weak Demon all day though Where have you been? All the fast street car classes run 1/8th mile now. Of course "street car" is used loosely now although both cars in the video I posted are truly street cars. The local street car classes I go to typically trap around 140+ mph in the 1/8th and it's podunk Iowa. Go to an event in the south east and they are trapping 200+ in the 1/8th on 315/60/15 drag radials. Obviously not something you are going to daily drive LOL. |
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Posted: 12/3/2021 5:11:12 AM EDT
[#39]
I love when we get to see EV owners masquerading as car enthusiasts
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Posted: 12/3/2021 7:15:23 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't care how fast Teslas are. Give me an ICE any day of the week. worth repeating |
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Posted: 12/3/2021 7:33:11 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Where have you been? All the fast street car classes run 1/8th mile now. Of course "street car" is used loosely now although both cars in the video I posted are truly street cars. The local street car classes I go to typically trap around 140+ mph in the 1/8th and it's podunk Iowa. Go to an event in the south east and they are trapping 200+ in the 1/8th on 315/60/15 drag radials. Obviously not something you are going to daily drive LOL. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 1/8th mile? Weak Demon all day though Where have you been? All the fast street car classes run 1/8th mile now. Of course "street car" is used loosely now although both cars in the video I posted are truly street cars. The local street car classes I go to typically trap around 140+ mph in the 1/8th and it's podunk Iowa. Go to an event in the south east and they are trapping 200+ in the 1/8th on 315/60/15 drag radials. Obviously not something you are going to daily drive LOL. I'm not a fan of 1/8 mile either. I bounce between road course and 1/4 mile. |
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Posted: 12/3/2021 7:38:03 AM EDT
[#42]
Weird to be happy about a Dodge.
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Posted: 12/3/2021 8:16:41 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The truck I am building will probably run a 16 in the 1/4 and it will smoke the tires the entire way, and bounce off the walls in both lanes going down the track. It's perfect for me. Must be an F-150 with a 5.0L V-8. |
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Posted: 12/3/2021 9:13:16 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Both are fast. But I'll take the visceral *brrraaaaaaaaaappp* every time over *hmmmmmmmm* Electric fast is... 
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Posted: 12/3/2021 11:08:35 AM EDT
[#45]
Teslas are fast, the Plaid is insane.
The braking on the Plaid is frightening relative to the power and speed it generates. The steering is also not the greatest by any means. When EVs get the handling/braking inline with their speed, it's going to be awesome to see. IMO, the sound of the ICE is what adds to the experience that EVs cannot replicate at this point ~9min mark for braking  Tesla Model S Plaid Review // When Science Goes Too Far |
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Posted: 12/3/2021 11:14:49 AM EDT
[#46]
Which plebes push buttons? I sit down in my Tesla with my phone, shift to drive, and off I go
Buttons I’m irritated the car doesn’t recognize the garage door in front of it is open and the one behind it is closed and shift itself into park for me…. Quote HistoryQuoted: My 66 Mustang is shaping up to be a high 11 to low 12 second car and it is not being built for 1/4 mile but rather for road course track days. I am more than happy with everything it can do while assaulting the senses and requiring my concentration. No EV vehicles for me, ever. The push button to signal the car to drive itself is not interesting to me. /edit I post about it a ton because my engine spun the cam when the cam pin sheered on me 2 months ago. First day of a 2 week vacation started with a 1 month old engine eating itself. Looks like I get my engine back next week and with luck the car is running again by christmas. I can hardly wait. |
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Posted: 12/3/2021 4:58:49 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Which plebes push buttons? I sit down in my Tesla with my phone, shift to drive, and off I go Buttons I’m irritated the car doesn’t recognize the garage door in front of it is open and the one behind it is closed and shift itself into park for me…. How long until a Tesla has a "drag mode" where you stage the car at the track, push "ready" button on the display, and it sits their watching the tree only to launch itself with a perfect reaction time and perfectly monitor teaction for a perfectly repeatable pass down the 1/4 mile EVERY TIME independent of weather or if a human is even im the car. Meanwhile I am waiting til the day I can put a proper pedal box in my 66 so I can be a heel & toe monster at the track as I blip the throttle under braking while monitoring understeer/oversteer... From hero to zero all on the basis of whether you can hit the shift or miss the shift. My 66 is faster accelerating and corners better than my 2015 GT Perf Pack. I wanted a car that reminds you just how quickly it can kill you. As opposed to a car that is constantly trying to do everything it can to save you. A car that does everything without you versus a car that does nothing without you. No shit, I have just been driving around mellow cruising and had kids in bikes record my car. Have had people come out of fst food restaurants to look at my car. It sounds cliche as fuck, like the Harley fags in that South Park episode. But I am telling you that it happens. When the car was a stock 2 bbl 289 it got more looks from women as a quiet little cruiser. As an angry fucking unsophisticated hotrod it is a dude magnet mostly. But I do sometimes have women ask what year it is while stopped at an intersection. Clip from a week or two before the cam pin let loose not a boring car |
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Posted: 12/3/2021 5:07:02 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Here's a hint...the left lane was the winner... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Still slower than a Tesla Plaid but very impressive. Here's a hint...the left lane was the winner... Oh, now you gone and done it. You're gonna get all the E-car tards' panties all bunched up. |
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Posted: 12/3/2021 5:16:25 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Here's a hint...the left lane was the winner... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Still slower than a Tesla Plaid but very impressive. Here's a hint...the left lane was the winner... Another Hint- That wasn't a Tesla model S PLAID! It was just a standard Model S. The Plaid model is currently the quickest production car made. |
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Posted: 12/3/2021 5:26:35 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't care how fast Teslas are. Give me an ICE any day of the week. 
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