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Posted: 2/23/2021 11:38:34 AM EDT
[#1]
LOL.
It's already recovering. |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 11:39:01 AM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He's not dumb. He did it to create a BTC buying opportunity. Which is really not a good look for BTC. "Buy Bitcoin, it's manipulated by billionaires even easier than the US Dollar!" |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 11:39:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Musk bought 1.5Bil in Bitcoin at 36-37K, it is still in the mid 40's, He has not lost on bitcoin. https://www.benzinga.com/markets/cryptocurrency/21/02/19788476/elon-musk-lost-15b-in-a-single-day-and-the-cause-could-be-one-of-his-own-tweets |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 11:39:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: With all the states and federal EV mandates coming, fuck no, it will only go up. That theory will crash into the broken window fallacy. |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 11:39:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don’t believe you. That's OK. I don't require your belief. |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 11:40:50 AM EDT
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LOL We live in the land of 75k F150’s. So no, 100k for a mind warping vehicle isn’t crazy. And you can get into a Model 3 with 300+ mile range and free supercharging for 45k lightly loaded.
Quote HistoryQuoted: ignorance is bliss. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: To be fair even 100k is pretty cheap for a sports car that eats lambos for breakfast ignorance is bliss. |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 11:41:21 AM EDT
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Buy the DIP
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Posted: 2/23/2021 11:41:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What you just stated doesn't guarantee the stock goes up. Tesla actually has to sell the cars and generate the earnings to justify their share price. Their market cap is substantially higher than car companies that sell 20x as many cars as they do. Tesla couldn't sell that many cars in 2021 even if they had they miraculously had the demand for it. Tesla also has credible competitors in 2021 unlike in prior years. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: With all the states and federal EV mandates coming, fuck no, it will only go up. What you just stated doesn't guarantee the stock goes up. Tesla actually has to sell the cars and generate the earnings to justify their share price. Their market cap is substantially higher than car companies that sell 20x as many cars as they do. Tesla couldn't sell that many cars in 2021 even if they had they miraculously had the demand for it. Tesla also has credible competitors in 2021 unlike in prior years. Elon has also angered the Left recently. |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 11:44:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Tesla's market cap is almost 2X that of Ford, GM, Fiat Chrysler, Toyota, Honda, and Nissan COMBINED. Yeah that makes sense. If you think that in the decade or so all cars sold will be Teslas. It has a long way to fall. Exactly |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 11:44:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: To be fair even 100k is pretty cheap for a sports car that eats lambos for breakfast Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Tesla's are electric toys for the rich, with new cars over $70,000. Only rich pussy faggots want them. To be fair even 100k is pretty cheap for a sports car that eats lambos for breakfast An electric sports car... |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 11:55:31 AM EDT
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I prefer vehicles that can drive 24 hours or more without having to stop and break out the board games while they recharge. Electric vehicles are for city dwelling retards who work close to home.
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Posted: 2/23/2021 11:59:27 AM EDT
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Come on, man!
 LGBT folks are tired of the old Subarus and Ridgelines. They're willing to pay for the new Tesla trucks. |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 12:03:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Tesla's are electric toys for the rich, with new cars over $70,000. Only rich pussy faggots want them. Or rich hard asses. Or regular rich people. But: 
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Posted: 2/23/2021 12:11:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That theory will crash into the broken window fallacy. |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 12:16:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Things will get sporty when transactions finally start coming from the Satoshi wallet. For those amongst us not gifted with your insider knowledge, would you be so kind as to explain what you mean? |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 12:20:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Which is really not a good look for BTC. "Buy Bitcoin, it's manipulated by billionaires even easier than the US Dollar!" When you look at who actually controls bitcoin its not a good look .. |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 12:25:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For those amongst us not gifted with your insider knowledge, would you be so kind as to explain what you mean? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Things will get sporty when transactions finally start coming from the Satoshi wallet. For those amongst us not gifted with your insider knowledge, would you be so kind as to explain what you mean? Satoshi was the person or persons that created bitcoin, they have been sitting on a pile of the coins since day zero without ever selling any of them that I know of |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 12:38:45 PM EDT
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No idea what's going on in the Musk casino but I'm down for that sweet sweet 8bit cyber truck whenever it comes out.
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Posted: 2/23/2021 12:47:45 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Tesla's are electric toys for the rich, with new cars over $70,000. Only rich pussy faggots want them. 
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Posted: 2/23/2021 12:55:03 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted:  Someone find shit in their Cheerios this morning?Some dude in a Tesla stole his boyfriend. |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 1:03:17 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I prefer vehicles that can drive 24 hours or more without having to stop and break out the board games while they recharge. Electric vehicles are for city dwelling retards who work close to home. Driving 24 hours straight is a ridiculous edge case. Tesla is now cracking the 400 mile range and other manufacturers are cracking the 300 mile range. I'm as big an ICE fan as there is out there, I've owned all manner of ridiculous muscle cars and lifted 4X4s and even I can see that EVs are the future. |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 1:12:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Driving 24 hours straight is a ridiculous edge case. Tesla is now cracking the 400 mile range and other manufacturers are cracking the 300 mile range. I'm as big an ICE fan as there is out there, I've owned all manner of ridiculous muscle cars and lifted 4X4s and even I can see that EVs are the future. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I prefer vehicles that can drive 24 hours or more without having to stop and break out the board games while they recharge. Electric vehicles are for city dwelling retards who work close to home. Driving 24 hours straight is a ridiculous edge case. Tesla is now cracking the 400 mile range and other manufacturers are cracking the 300 mile range. I'm as big an ICE fan as there is out there, I've owned all manner of ridiculous muscle cars and lifted 4X4s and even I can see that EVs are the future. The software in the better EV's make it fairly easy to plan around stops like that to locate a charging station you can plug into while you go to the bathroom, stretch, grab some food, bang a hooker behind a wendys dumpster, etc. That doesn't take into account you can also use a combination of apps and google maps or waze to plan too if you're doing it with something on the lower end of the EV market. Charging availability has come A LONG WAY since even 3-4 years ago for making long distance traveling convenient for EVs. |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 1:23:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Driving 24 hours straight is a ridiculous edge case. Tesla is now cracking the 400 mile range and other manufacturers are cracking the 300 mile range. I'm as big an ICE fan as there is out there, I've owned all manner of ridiculous muscle cars and lifted 4X4s and even I can see that EVs are the future. In less than 10 years the market will have them with 1000 mile ranges and it will become a mute point. |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 1:29:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In less than 10 years the market will have them with 1000 mile ranges and it will become a mute point. No one will hear that. |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 1:40:39 PM EDT
[#25]
I'll be buying a Cybertruck in their second model year.
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Posted: 2/23/2021 1:53:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No one will hear that. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: In less than 10 years the market will have them with 1000 mile ranges and it will become a mute point. No one will hear that. |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 1:54:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I typically do a lot more road trips then most people I know multiple times a year that are in the 600-700 mile range. Depending on my vehicle that's typically going to be 1-2 fuel stops and typically 2-3 total stops for bio break and/or food which I try to blend in with a fuel top-off so typically 2 stops if traffic and timing works out good but sometimes 3-4 total. The software in the better EV's make it fairly easy to plan around stops like that to locate a charging station you can plug into while you go to the bathroom, stretch, grab some food, bang a hooker behind a wendys dumpster, etc. That doesn't take into account you can also use a combination of apps and google maps or waze to plan too if you're doing it with something on the lower end of the EV market. Charging availability has come A LONG WAY since even 3-4 years ago for making long distance traveling convenient for EVs. I have no interest in sitting on my ass at a station going nowhere for 15-60 minutes charging. With that said, I think and EV would be great for commuting if you can charge at home. I just would use my other vehicle for trips. When I moved from WI to TX I drove 1400 miles straight through in 21.5 hours. No fucking around. I want the ability to do that in my vehicles. |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 2:04:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In less than 10 years the market will have them with 1000 mile ranges and it will become a mute point. I doubt it. Battery tech is going to get better but that'll most likely result in smaller, cheaper packs rather than ultra long range. We could easily make ICE cars with 1000 mile range but nobody wants the tradeoff of larger tanks. |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 2:05:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No one will hear that. Exactly. I chose the right word. No one will care, if they have a 1k range it won’t be discussed anymore because they will go farther than an ICE on a fill up. |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 2:08:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I doubt it. Battery tech is going to get better but that'll most likely result in smaller, cheaper packs rather than ultra long range. We could easily make ICE cars with 1000 mile range but nobody wants the tradeoff of larger tanks. At some point, battery tech is going to get its environment cost added to it just like ICE is now. |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 2:13:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: At some point, battery tech is going to get its environment cost added to it just like ICE is now. 
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Posted: 2/23/2021 2:16:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: People downplayed the damn Volt (not Bolt) because they said the range was so shitty but GM built it because the data for a commuter vehicle suggested that like 95% of people drive within that shorter window <50mi so they could do a parallel hybrid design to cover everything and the majority of the time the only time the engine ever kicks on is CPU commanded for internal maintenance. Whooooooooooosh |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 2:16:16 PM EDT
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No way to tell how much money was invested in TSLA stock as a proxy for investing in Elon Musk and this other activities that aren't public.
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Posted: 2/23/2021 2:29:19 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: With all the states and federal EV mandates coming, fuck no, it will only go up. State and Federal mandates are meaningless if they are unrealistic and impossible to meet. There will be infinite rescheduling of the deadlines as reality proves a harsh mistress... |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 2:45:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've done several 1100 mile straight through trips over the last 2 years, my stops are literally 3-5 minutes, the time it takes to fill the tank and maybe piss. I have no interest in sitting on my ass at a station going nowhere for 15-60 minutes charging. With that said, I think and EV would be great for commuting if you can charge at home. I just would use my other vehicle for trips. When I moved from WI to TX I drove 1400 miles straight through in 21.5 hours. No fucking around. I want the ability to do that in my vehicles. I know someone who drove their Tesla across the US and their tale of how practical it was sounded like the fucking Butterfield Stage route to me |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 4:17:05 PM EDT
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Quoted: Down almost 20% and still falling. Is this the end of a great run? Will it recover? Elon Musk influences the market with simple tweets, what will he do to save Tesla stock and Bitcoin? He has lost 15 Billion since tweeting that he believes Bitcoin and Ethereum are a little high. |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 7:00:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Driving 24 hours straight is a ridiculous edge case. Not if you have hobbies and/or an interesting job. Been doing it for years for work, roadracing and scuba diving. |
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Posted: 3/3/2021 11:51:38 PM EDT
[#38]
When is it going back up?
I haven’t seen it lose this much in the entire time I have owned it. |
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Posted: 3/3/2021 11:56:30 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: When is it going back up? I haven’t seen it lose this much in the entire time I have owned it. Make sure you’re thinking in percentage terms. Fwiw, TSLA may well be a great and successful company, however, it’s in a huge bubble built on speculation and momentum. When something is priced by the bigger fool theory, eventually you run out of fools. |
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Posted: 3/4/2021 12:02:43 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I know someone who drove their Tesla across the US and their tale of how practical it was sounded like the fucking Butterfield Stage route to me |
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Posted: 3/4/2021 12:03:43 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: To be fair even 100k is pretty cheap for a sports car that eats lambos for breakfast Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Tesla's are electric toys for the rich, with new cars over $70,000. Only rich pussy faggots want them. To be fair even 100k is pretty cheap for a sports car that eats lambos for breakfast Or will tow around their brodozer 1 ton diesels like a rag doll. |
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Posted: 3/4/2021 12:06:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He's not dumb. He did it to create a BTC buying opportunity. It's not a new trick for him yet people keep falling for it. I see more and more Model 3's every day. I'll keep buying on the dips. The rest of you should keep buying high. 
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Posted: 3/4/2021 12:08:24 AM EDT
[#43]
 What’s most amusing, is how the TSLA rocket ship didn't really launch until Covid hit. How does that correspond to Robinhood? Is there anyway to know how much TSLA is owned by fractional shares? |
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Posted: 3/4/2021 12:08:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Tesla's are electric toys for the rich, with new cars over $70,000. Only rich pussy faggots want them. lol Back when all they had was the Model S you were right. Today you can get into a Model 3 for well optioned Accord money. I see them everywhere and I don't exactly live in a metropolis. |
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Posted: 3/4/2021 12:13:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: lol Back when all they had was the Model S you were right. Today you can get into a Model 3 for well optioned Accord money. I see them everywhere and I don't exactly live in a metropolis. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Tesla's are electric toys for the rich, with new cars over $70,000. Only rich pussy faggots want them. lol Back when all they had was the Model S you were right. Today you can get into a Model 3 for well optioned Accord money. I see them everywhere and I don't exactly live in a metropolis. This. I live in a fairly rural midwest town and I see em all the time. |
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Posted: 3/4/2021 12:13:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Make sure you're thinking in percentage terms. Fwiw, TSLA may well be a great and successful company, however, it's in a huge bubble built on speculation and momentum. When something is priced by the bigger fool theory, eventually you run out of fools. And I drive an electric car, not a Tesla. Wasn't impressed with them. They appear to be built by blind children from the ones I have looked at |
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Posted: 3/4/2021 12:15:42 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Driving 24 hours straight is a ridiculous edge case. Tesla is now cracking the 400 mile range and other manufacturers are cracking the 300 mile range. I'm as big an ICE fan as there is out there, I've owned all manner of ridiculous muscle cars and lifted 4X4s and even I can see that EVs are the future. What's the range at 30* below? |
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Posted: 3/4/2021 12:37:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What's the range at 30* below? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Driving 24 hours straight is a ridiculous edge case. Tesla is now cracking the 400 mile range and other manufacturers are cracking the 300 mile range. I'm as big an ICE fan as there is out there, I've owned all manner of ridiculous muscle cars and lifted 4X4s and even I can see that EVs are the future. What's the range at 30* below? The more fun question is charging at that temp. Can’t change physics. |
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Posted: 3/4/2021 12:38:38 AM EDT
[#49]
Meh i'll panic when it hits 300
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Posted: 3/4/2021 12:41:01 AM EDT
[#50]
I wouldn't volunteer to be the guy who bets against Musk.
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