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Posted: 7/14/2020 3:12:19 PM EDT
 T-7A First Inverted Flight Test Still a great looking aeroplane. |
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Posted: 7/14/2020 3:38:51 PM EDT
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A4 Skyhawk as a chase plane.
This thing looks like a good successor to the F5 family of aircraft and a bundle of other types. |
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Posted: 7/14/2020 3:41:25 PM EDT
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I don't know why, but every time I see a pic of these the canopy just seems large and slightly out of proportion to the rest of the plane.
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Posted: 7/14/2020 3:44:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't know why, but every time I see a pic of these the canopy just seems large and slightly out of proportion to the rest of the plane. Gives excellent visibility. |
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Posted: 7/14/2020 3:48:22 PM EDT
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Can't wait until we get those things fielded and we retire the tired old T-38s.
Keeping my fingers crossed we also use them as an AT-7 for some LAAR work, maybe get a FT-7 light attack or light air/homeland defense in order to relieve some higher performance assets. I'd love to see this turn into an American option to compete against the FA-50, L-259, and old F5s. |
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Posted: 7/14/2020 3:49:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Gives excellent visibility. Especially for a trainer. Instructor pilots had some say in that. |
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Posted: 7/14/2020 3:54:00 PM EDT
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But they were wearing masks--where are the shouts and howels?
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Posted: 7/14/2020 3:59:54 PM EDT
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F404?
That must give it a pretty insane thrust to weight ratio! |
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Posted: 7/14/2020 3:59:59 PM EDT
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Negative G's SUCK. But cool video.
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Posted: 7/14/2020 4:00:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't know why, but every time I see a pic of these the canopy just seems large and slightly out of proportion to the rest of the plane. The airplane had stadium seating to elevate the back seater. That will be beneficial when the airplane becomes a COIN fighter. |
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Posted: 7/14/2020 4:02:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Negative G's SUCK. But cool video. I dislike sustained inverted flying. Just short of hate. I had an excellent lap belt with a rachet so I could cinch down tight, too. |
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Posted: 7/14/2020 4:04:18 PM EDT
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I didn't know Joe Biden was a test pilot.
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Posted: 7/14/2020 4:05:17 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/14/2020 4:05:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: F404? That must give it a pretty insane thrust to weight ratio! And it's got an afterburner! I would have shoved in a P&W F135 for fleet compatibility. 
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Posted: 7/14/2020 4:05:56 PM EDT
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Looks like a F16 and F18 got drunk, hooked up, 9mo later the T7 was born.
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Posted: 7/14/2020 4:14:16 PM EDT
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Is the T7 comparable in size to the F5's/T38? I went to a place in TX that rebuilds them and saw some up close and taken apart and they are tiny.
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Posted: 7/14/2020 4:19:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I dislike sustained inverted flying. Just short of hate. I had an excellent lap belt with a rachet so I could cinch down tight, too. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Negative G's SUCK. But cool video. I dislike sustained inverted flying. Just short of hate. I had an excellent lap belt with a rachet so I could cinch down tight, too. Do you two hear yourselves? You're complaining about negative Gs in an inverted fighter jet? I guess it's better than sunburn from pulling off a tar roof in the summer.
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Posted: 7/14/2020 4:20:44 PM EDT
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4g negative dive?
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Posted: 7/14/2020 4:32:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you two hear yourselves? You're complaining about negative Gs in an inverted fighter jet? I guess it's better than sunburn from pulling off a tar roof in the summer. Why is this playing in my head right now?  "Hot Shots!" Main Title |
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Posted: 7/14/2020 4:41:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Especially for a trainer. Instructor pilots had some say in that. Also configurable as a light attack plane, gotta be able to put eyes on the ground for that. |
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Posted: 7/14/2020 4:49:23 PM EDT
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God is it ugly lol. Hoping it's a huge success though
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Posted: 7/14/2020 4:55:01 PM EDT
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"Inverted fuel flow test"..... WTF, it's not a 1937 Stearman biplane with a carb float and a gravity-fed fuel tank.
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Posted: 7/14/2020 6:42:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "Inverted fuel flow test"..... WTF, it's not a 1937 Stearman biplane with a carb float and a gravity-fed fuel tank. Gravity has the same vote. |
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Posted: 7/14/2020 6:43:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Do you two hear yourselves? You're complaining about negative Gs in an inverted fighter jet? I guess it's better than sunburn from pulling off a tar roof in the summer. Why is this playing in my head right now?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RTyyOlelKIMine was in my Decathlon. - |
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Posted: 7/15/2020 8:43:49 AM EDT
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AeroE,
do you know of any attempt to integrate pylons or weapons bays into the T-7A as of yet, or is most commentary on that pure speculation from Boeing or USAF with no monetary backing as of yet? I know the T-50/FA-50 has that capability and has been purchased as a light fighter by the Philippines, and know the M-346 was pitched as having that capability (but don't know offhand if any received pylons). |
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Posted: 7/15/2020 8:53:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A4 Skyhawk as a chase plane. Boeing just got another A-4 in service recently. |
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Posted: 7/15/2020 9:33:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Especially for a trainer. Instructor pilots had some say in that. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Gives excellent visibility. Especially for a trainer. Instructor pilots had some say in that. It sucks sitting in the back as an IP and not being able to see what the student is pointing at with the nose. |
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Posted: 7/15/2020 9:35:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Negative G's SUCK. But cool video. nah, once you have ridden an inverted spin 35,000 feet down, negative G is easy |
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Posted: 7/15/2020 9:45:08 AM EDT
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Used to do the airshow thing in the 90s, the Mig17s flying around were ours before Bill reeseman bought them. The cuban 8 was negative 3-4 g's for a second and was pretty wild. Now I'd rather drive were I am going.
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Posted: 7/15/2020 10:50:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "Inverted fuel flow test"..... WTF, it's not a 1937 Stearman biplane with a carb float and a gravity-fed fuel tank. |
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Posted: 7/15/2020 10:54:51 AM EDT
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It's a neat little plane.
I can't wait to see them in the air. I'll miss the T-38 though. Like sleek daggers that can't slow down and are waiting to wreck your pattern |
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Posted: 7/15/2020 11:15:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: AeroE, do you know of any attempt to integrate pylons or weapons bays into the T-7A as of yet, or is most commentary on that pure speculation from Boeing or USAF with no monetary backing as of yet? I know the T-50/FA-50 has that capability and has been purchased as a light fighter by the Philippines, and know the M-346 was pitched as having that capability (but don't know offhand if any received pylons). I'm certain there are layouts, and probably a first cut of separation analysis, performance and placards, ground handling (loading and unloading) access, strength analysis, and wire routing requirements. None of it would be ready to shoot commies tomorrow. |
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Posted: 7/15/2020 12:41:08 PM EDT
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The love-child of a Gripen and a Hornet.
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