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Posted: 3/27/2023 12:23:48 PM EDT
Today the Swedish defense materiel agency signed a contract with SAKO of Finland for new carbines and sniper rifle.
 11.5" 5.56 carbine which will be issued to support troops and specialists.  16" 7.62 carbine for infantry.  .338 Lapua sniper rifle. The new rifles will be procured gradually over the next few years, starting with the sniper rifle in 2024. Sources in Swedish: https://www.fmv.se/aktuellt--press/aktuella-handelser/fmv-tecknar-avtal-om-eldhandvapen/ https://www.forsvarsmakten.se/sv/aktuellt/2023/03/nya-eldhandvapen-pa-gang/ |
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Posted: 3/27/2023 12:25:13 PM EDT
[#1]
7.62 as their main infantry rifle?
Interesting. |
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Posted: 3/27/2023 12:25:36 PM EDT
[#2]
Still using a bolt gun? I can see an advantage of no brass being ejected.
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Posted: 3/27/2023 12:26:59 PM EDT
[#3]
What's that lever above the mag release? Bolt release?
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Posted: 3/27/2023 12:27:09 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 7.62 as their main infantry rifle? Interesting. Yeah that's a bit surprising honestly! |
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Posted: 3/27/2023 12:27:56 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 7.62 as their main infantry rifle? Interesting. The small arms unit of the Home Guard held a podcast on the subject, and the reasoning is that an AR10 has more room for growth (they're eyeing the 6.8x51 among others). I'm not sold on the concept, but we'll see. |
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Posted: 3/27/2023 12:28:16 PM EDT
[#6]
What? No 6.5 x 55? Just kidding.
Nice looking rifles. |
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Posted: 3/27/2023 12:28:40 PM EDT
[#7]
Interesting going with an older school FA.
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Posted: 3/27/2023 12:29:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What's that lever above the mag release? Bolt release? I think so. They still haven't released the details. |
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Posted: 3/27/2023 12:29:31 PM EDT
[#9]
Military with a 60 degree selector. Nice.
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Posted: 3/27/2023 12:30:11 PM EDT
[#10]
Daddy likes
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Posted: 3/27/2023 12:33:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think so. They still haven't released the details. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What's that lever above the mag release? Bolt release? I think so. They still haven't released the details. Bolt hold open/release. Can see a very similar design on the SIG Spear line and the PDQ concept. |
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Posted: 3/27/2023 12:33:40 PM EDT
[#12]
Bullshit.
Same family of weapons for Finland. 5.56 from Sako for infantry. 7.62 for DMR/Sniper rifle TRG10 for long range precision work for snipers in 338. Think about it: SAKO barrel quality, piston-driven... Should give HK some competition as SAKO traditionally does not screw civilian market. HK? "Civilian versions". |
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Posted: 3/27/2023 12:33:48 PM EDT
[#13]
yes please!
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Posted: 3/27/2023 12:34:29 PM EDT
[#14]
I'll take one of each please.
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Posted: 3/27/2023 12:37:43 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 7.62 as their main infantry rifle? Interesting. whats old is new again? |
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Posted: 3/27/2023 12:38:04 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Bullshit. Same family of weapons for Finland. 5.56 from Sako for infantry. 7.62 for DMR/Sniper rifle TRG10 for long range precision work for snipers in 338. Think about it: SAKO barrel quality, piston-driven... Should give HK some competition as SAKO traditionally does not screw civilian market. HK? "Civilian versions". I hope you're right, but our brass has a habit of making retarded decisions. |
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Posted: 3/27/2023 12:38:17 PM EDT
[#17]
Sweet!
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Posted: 3/27/2023 12:41:26 PM EDT
[#18]
The infantry move is consistent with the logic of the US army's desire to move beyond 5.56. However, they're sticking to a NATO standard caliber, which is important considering the relatively small role they play in the larger context of NATO.
I think what's more interesting is that they're still keeping 556 in the picture and having a split of rifles according to infantry vs support rifles. I'm sure weight and bulk are the reasons, but interesting still. |
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Posted: 3/27/2023 12:43:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 7.62 as their main infantry rifle? Interesting. 16" as well. That would seem..........loud. |
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Posted: 3/27/2023 12:44:26 PM EDT
[#20]
Look suppressor ready.
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Posted: 3/27/2023 12:46:35 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What's that lever above the mag release? Bolt release? I cut a teal blue bravo PDQ into all my guns. Looks just like that. It’s tits.  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/27/2023 12:47:41 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'll take one of each please. THIS. |
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Posted: 3/27/2023 12:50:09 PM EDT
[#23]
Looks like a nice set.
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Posted: 3/27/2023 12:51:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Still using a bolt gun? I can see an advantage of no brass being ejected. what advantage would that be? |
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Posted: 3/27/2023 12:52:45 PM EDT
[#25]
Looks a little LMTesque.
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Posted: 3/27/2023 12:53:22 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: what advantage would that be? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Still using a bolt gun? I can see an advantage of no brass being ejected. what advantage would that be? The glint of ejected brass might give away a sniper's position. Think about it. |
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Posted: 3/27/2023 12:54:31 PM EDT
[#27]
Pistol imports when?
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Posted: 3/27/2023 12:56:34 PM EDT
[#28]
Awesome.
Demill those Ak5 rifles and make parts kits please. |
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Posted: 3/27/2023 12:56:49 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Daddy likes Indeed. |
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Posted: 3/27/2023 12:59:24 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Awesome. Demill those Ak5 rifles and make parts kits please. Unlikely. Up until the 90s some government surplus was available, but they've gradually changed that and these days not even ammo is surplussed. |
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Posted: 3/27/2023 12:59:47 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Indeed. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Daddy likes Indeed.   
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Posted: 3/27/2023 1:00:15 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Indeed. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Daddy likes Indeed.
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Posted: 3/27/2023 1:06:05 PM EDT
[#33]
A Sako built AR would probably be tits.
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Posted: 3/27/2023 1:06:56 PM EDT
[#34]
I bet that bolt gun is pretty titties
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Posted: 3/27/2023 1:08:40 PM EDT
[#35]
So, they rediscovered the M-16?
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Posted: 3/27/2023 1:10:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: what advantage would that be? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Still using a bolt gun? I can see an advantage of no brass being ejected. what advantage would that be? Because a rainbow of golden brass coming from a lump of leaves might arouse suspicions? |
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Posted: 3/27/2023 1:10:14 PM EDT
[#37]
I really really like that .338 bolt.................
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Posted: 3/27/2023 1:11:35 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Because a rainbow of golden brass coming from a lump of leaves might arouse suspicions? some how I suspect if they're close enough to see the brass ... 
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Posted: 3/27/2023 1:13:09 PM EDT
[#39]
Quoted: Today the Swedish defense materiel agency signed a contract with SAKO of Finland for new carbines and sniper rifle. https://www.fmv.se/globalassets/bilder/nyheter/2023/5.56x45---automatkarbin-kort-pipa_webb.jpg 11.5" 5.56 carbine which will be issued to support troops and specialists. https://www.fmv.se/globalassets/bilder/nyheter/2023/7.62x51-3_automatkarbin-lang-pipa_webb.jpg 16" 7.62 carbine for infantry. https://www.fmv.se/globalassets/bilder/nyheter/2023/trg-m10---3_prickskyttegevar_webb.jpg .338 Lapua sniper rifle. The new rifles will be procured gradually over the next few years, starting with the sniper rifle in 2024. Sources in Swedish: https://www.fmv.se/aktuellt--press/aktuella-handelser/fmv-tecknar-avtal-om-eldhandvapen/ https://www.forsvarsmakten.se/sv/aktuellt/2023/03/nya-eldhandvapen-pa-gang/ |
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Posted: 3/27/2023 1:15:37 PM EDT
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My idea:
An AR type sniper rifle chambered in a new .284 Winchester based cartridge with the length to shoulder increased to 2.2" similar to 6.5 Weatherby RPM but even longer and using the heaviest .284 bullets with a 15 round magazine and a heavy barrel taper instead of a .338 Lapua bolt action. |
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Posted: 3/27/2023 1:18:29 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Still using a bolt gun? I can see an advantage of no brass being ejected. Who is using a .338lm semi auto? |
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Posted: 3/27/2023 1:21:28 PM EDT
[#42]
Sako AR-type rifle, I want one, I want one now!
I want that bolt gun too, but I'm not shelling out $11k for one. With the price of 308/762 and the inability to find reasonable cost FN FAL mags (that work), DS Arms really should have been/be looking into making FN FNC and AK5 rifles. Not THAT hard to make, shit the Pakistani's make all sorts of knock offs with 1/10th of the infrastructure. |
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Posted: 3/27/2023 1:22:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: some how I suspect if they're close enough to see the brass ...
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Posted: 3/27/2023 1:23:39 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/27/2023 1:27:03 PM EDT
[#45]
DI?
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Posted: 3/27/2023 1:28:42 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Because a rainbow of golden brass coming from a lump of leaves might arouse suspicions? Here I was thinking you leave with the brass in the gun and there is no brass to pick up linking to the gun that took the shot. |
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Posted: 3/27/2023 1:31:41 PM EDT
[#47]
Sako AR-type rifles... and in 7.62?
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Posted: 3/27/2023 1:35:21 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What's that lever above the mag release? Bolt release? on my M5  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/27/2023 1:35:22 PM EDT
[#49]
The Finns as well
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Posted: 3/27/2023 1:36:03 PM EDT
[#50]
An 11.5 inch 5.56 and a 16 inch 7.62x51? Are suppressors standard issue?
If not Hello tinnitus,my old friend. 
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