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Posted: 1/26/2021 1:54:21 PM EDT
ABC reporter asked about the Joe Biden promise to close the "gun show loophole" on day 1.

Susan rice responded by saying expect EO's on "gun violence prevention" in the next week.



There you have it GD. Mandatory background checks in all states, on all firearm sales, by the stroke of a pen.

You better have your seatbelt on for the ride.
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 1:58:26 PM EDT
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He can't do that, otherwise FBHO would have done it already.

FJB
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 1:58:38 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/26/2021 1:59:23 PM EDT
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Of course he can do that....Cuomo did it years ago
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 1:59:46 PM EDT
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Fuck those that did not vote for Trump because "of my toy bumpstock".
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 1:59:49 PM EDT
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Didn't Suzy blame all the Chicago murders on a video?
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 2:00:28 PM EDT
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He's going to do what he wants and no one will stop him.

We're in a post-coup country now.
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 2:00:36 PM EDT
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Unenforceable.
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 2:00:48 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/26/2021 2:01:01 PM EDT
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That had to be handled at the state level.  Or get Congress to enact federal law.
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 2:01:23 PM EDT
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That's why you buy long before the stupidity starts.

If you are just starting to buy now you have waited far to long.

Link Posted: 1/26/2021 2:01:23 PM EDT
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Anyone who spouts this gunshow loophole BS is, to quote L Neil Smith, stupid, insane, or evil. Those are the only options.

Edit: He could ACTUALLY make a dent in gun violence by directing the ATFE to investigate denied purchases, and suspected straw purchases, but that road seriously does not lead where they want it to go.
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 2:01:58 PM EDT
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He can't do that, otherwise FBHO would have done it already.

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Yes he can.

Or did you have your head in the sand when SCOTUS said ILLEGAL EO's ARE LEGAL JUST BECAUSE?

IF anyone sues, and IF it ever makes it to SCOTUS, they're going to do fuck all about it.

You WILL be a felon. Get used to it.
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 2:02:11 PM EDT
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What's the nics check, if not a mandatory background check?
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 2:02:47 PM EDT
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He can't do that, otherwise FBHO would have done it already.

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   They have POTUS, COTUS and SCOTUS has the balls of a butterfly. They can do whatever they want to do.
   Trump already showed you can essentially rewrite laws with the bump stock ban. Legally speaking, we're screwed, blued and tattooed.
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 2:02:48 PM EDT
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UBC is unenforceable without registration
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 2:03:19 PM EDT
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Anyone who spouts this gunshow loophole BS is, to quote L Neil Smith, stupid, insane, or evil. Those are the only options.
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It's like saying a convertible is the motorcycle helmet loophole. Us following the law is a loophole to them.
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 2:03:39 PM EDT
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The only reason the fed govt had the authority to mandate background checks by FFLs is because of the Commerce Clause. A president has no legal authority to mandate background checks for private sales by EO
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 2:03:56 PM EDT
[#18]
Susan Rice to Valerie Jarrett:

Hey Valerie, hold my beer and watch this.
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 2:04:10 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/26/2021 2:04:37 PM EDT
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   Some states allow a CCW and a FTF sale to bypass NICS.  They will end that soon.
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 2:04:38 PM EDT
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Quite true, and we will pass a bill in this state that prohibits cooperation with the feds to enforce federal gun laws. Joe can suck a dick.
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 2:04:46 PM EDT
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It wasn't an EO. It was emergency legislation, which is how things get done in the Empire State. Emergencies include such as naming a bridge after his father. EO only became the norm in 2020.
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 2:04:47 PM EDT
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I don't own any firearms,  I am here only for the bikinis
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 2:05:00 PM EDT
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The only reason the fed govt had the authority to mandate background checks by FFLs is because of the Commerce Clause. A president has no legal authority to mandate background checks for private sales by EO
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ATF might finally define “business of selling firearms”
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 2:05:07 PM EDT
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I couldn't care less about paperwork and safe storage and even the tax stamp thing is doable.
To me the line is crossed is if we stop online sales of ammo and firearms because that will end the hobby for good.
OK I revise this: Pinning stocks and magazines Commufornia style would also piss me off :-)
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 2:05:13 PM EDT
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And so it begins. It will only get worse from there. FAR worse.
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 2:05:15 PM EDT
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So Biden is about to take a page out of the Trump playbook, and you STILL think people were pissed about the bumpstocks?

JFC
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 2:05:43 PM EDT
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He's going to do what he wants and no one will stop him.

We're in a post-coup country now.
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And state's rights in 5...4... 3...
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 2:06:22 PM EDT
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Can he just redefine "dealer" to mean if you sell even 1 firearm? How strong was that definition?
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 2:06:43 PM EDT
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But you don’t have to do a NICS check if it’s person to person in most states.  So now you lend a gun to a friend for a hunting trip you didn’t do a NICS check you used this “loophole”.
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 2:07:02 PM EDT
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Anyone who spouts this gunshow loophole BS is, to quote L Neil Smith, stupid, insane, or evil. Those are the only options.

Edit: He could ACTUALLY make a dent in gun violence by directing the ATFE to investigate denied purchases, and suspected straw purchases, but that road seriously does not lead where they want it to go.
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Or maybe by arresting those using firearms in crimes and not letting them out on plea bargains...
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 2:07:03 PM EDT
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Totally unenforceable without registration.
Makes a guy wonder what could possibly come next.????
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 2:07:07 PM EDT
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News flash...
Since we didn’t and are not going to use them for their intended purpose, as we sit here and watch the nation crumble, they are all range toys.

All the quitters can take up darts. They will still make holes in paper and it’s much cheaper.
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 2:07:28 PM EDT
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What we have hear, is a failure to communicate.
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 2:08:03 PM EDT
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Why do you think they want UBC? Do you really think its supposed to save lives?
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 2:08:19 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/26/2021 2:08:29 PM EDT
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He can't do that, otherwise FBHO would have done it already.

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He might be using the example of take the guns first, worry about due process later.
Fucking Obama!
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 2:08:33 PM EDT
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It'll just be the first in many laws that will go mostly ignored.

Similar to the mag ban in Colorado, it's only as effective as the people respect it. Stupid laws will only get tacked on to higher profile cases. Just like 922r compliance, it's largely irrelevant until they need something to jam you up.

"Charged with weapons violations" is usually in the headline.
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 2:08:38 PM EDT
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Quite true, and we will pass a bill in this state that prohibits cooperation with the feds to enforce federal gun laws. Joe can suck a dick.
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Oddly... we're doing that too.
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 2:09:19 PM EDT
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Background checks for all sales have done so much to keep guns out of the hands of criminals here in California.
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 2:10:21 PM EDT
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So Biden is about to take a page out of the Trump playbook, and you STILL think people were pissed about the bumpstocks?

JFC
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Yep....when you can redefine a stock into a machine gun all bets are off.
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 2:10:46 PM EDT
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4 more years of Susan benghazi liar Rice.  FMN
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 2:10:55 PM EDT
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I couldn't care less about paperwork and safe storage and even the tax stamp thing is doable.
To me the line is crossed is if we stop online sales of ammo and firearms because that will end the hobby for good.
OK I revise this: Pinning stocks and magazines Commufornia style would also piss me off :-)
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The lines never fucking stop. It’s death of a thousand cuts.
You can’t wait until they get to something you care about.
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 2:11:14 PM EDT
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Nevada, overrun by California communist shits for the last decade have finally enacted this here.
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 2:11:24 PM EDT
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I couldn't care less about paperwork and safe storage and even the tax stamp thing is doable.
To me the line is crossed is if we stop online sales of ammo and firearms because that will end the hobby for good.
OK I revise this: Pinning stocks and magazines Commufornia style would also piss me off :-)
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If you don't care about being able to sell your property or being forced by gun point as to how you can or cannot store your property you might want to get your head checked
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 2:12:22 PM EDT
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The feds can't enact the power of interstate commerce over FTF sales that already are only allowed intrastate.

It should be an easy ruling for federal court to toss that out on its ass, I won't hold my breath.
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 2:12:32 PM EDT
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Fuck those that did not vote for Trump because "of my toy bumpstock".
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So some dipshit politician wants more gun control and you decide to shit on fellow gun owners who defend the 2A because an election was stolen from us by fraud? You're a fucking genius. You should work for the Government. JFC
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 2:13:17 PM EDT
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Why do you think they want UBC? Do you really think its supposed to save lives?
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UBC is unenforceable without registration


Why do you think they want UBC? Do you really think its supposed to save lives?


Of course not. All gun control laws are based on control and intended to make the process of buying or acquiring firearms so complicated that future generations opt out.
Link Posted: 1/26/2021 2:14:02 PM EDT
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Quoted:
ABC reporter asked about the Joe Biden promise to close the "gun show loophole" on day 1.

Susan rice responded by saying expect EO's on "gun violence prevention" in the next week.



There you have it GD. Mandatory background checks in all states, on all firearm sales, by the stroke of a pen.

You better have your seatbelt on for the ride.
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I don't see any legal way he can do that w/ an EO.  Going to take a law.

Link Posted: 1/26/2021 2:14:09 PM EDT
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I guess I'll catch major shit for this but.......I think private sales of firearms should go through an FFL to help prevent criminals from obtaining guns. It's 20 bucks and 15 minutes of your time.

But I will admit I don't know how significant the number of illegal private sales there actually are or if the data even exists.

I guess I'm about to get flamed pretty hard but it always seemed reasonable to me.
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