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Posted: 1/25/2021 1:42:09 PM EDT
All those crybaby college students demanding their college student loan debt be forgiven are in for a great surprise.

Federally backed forgiven debts are considered income.

Break out the popcorn. Watch those overgrown kids throw temper tantrums. Those degrees in Lesbian Pan-Ethnic Sexuality Civil Rights Bovine Scatology Art Studies have the worth of the crap tickets beside an "American Standard" porcelain throne.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/bidens-student-loan-forgiveness-could-151500226.html
Link Posted: 1/25/2021 1:44:16 PM EDT
[#1]
Yes, because those people pay taxes....
Link Posted: 1/25/2021 1:44:28 PM EDT
[#2]
Jokes on them, we've been banking all the money we haven't had to pay towards our student loans for the last year and when Saint Biden pays them off I can afford the taxes.
Link Posted: 1/25/2021 1:44:35 PM EDT
[#3]
I think universities should be the ones holding the bag, not tax payers. The price of tuition is a joke and the only reason it goes unchecked is because anyone can get as much as then need from a loan backed by the gov.

Make the universities pay out of their huge endowments for students of theirs that don't pay back loans.
Link Posted: 1/25/2021 1:44:54 PM EDT
[#4]
Duh...
Link Posted: 1/25/2021 1:45:50 PM EDT
[#5]
Same reason young dumb children want to spend all their money now and not invest or save.

Left manipulates the ignorant. Why do you think they wanted 16yr olds to vote.
Link Posted: 1/25/2021 1:45:51 PM EDT
[#6]
Would be nice, but they will just change the tax code so if you are under employed you won't pay taxes on it.
Link Posted: 1/25/2021 1:46:16 PM EDT
[#7]
Lol. They will just wave the tax too.
Link Posted: 1/25/2021 1:46:29 PM EDT
[#8]
Even then its a good deal for those who get it. To pay it off on your own you get taxed on the money you made before you get to pay it off.   Not seeing the downside for those who neckbeard the program if it does come about.  The rest of the people are getting waxed.
Link Posted: 1/25/2021 1:48:10 PM EDT
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Jokes on them, we've been banking all the money we haven't had to pay towards our student loans for the last year and when Saint Biden pays them off I can afford the taxes.
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Same. I owe 10 grand and have 10 set aside in my savings to pay it off. The govt will get their money one way or another through taxes or through you paying them off over 30 years. It’s a get their money now or get it later type deal.  I’ve had my loans for 5 years paying a bunch of them off. If trump was re elected I was going to write a check. Now I’ll hold on
Link Posted: 1/25/2021 1:49:00 PM EDT
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I think universities should be the ones holding the bag, not tax payers. The price of tuition is a joke and the only reason it goes unchecked is because anyone can get as much as then need from a loan backed by the gov.

Make the universities pay out of their huge endowments for students of theirs that don't pay back loans.
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You get it. The universities have no real stake in the game. It doesn’t bother them if someone unqualified for college gets in and then fails/drops out in a year. They take the student loan money and keep building overbuilt student centers, etc and when they need more money they just hike the tuition.
Link Posted: 1/25/2021 1:49:28 PM EDT
[#11]
Watching them cry over a $60000 tax bomb would be pure entertainment.
Link Posted: 1/25/2021 1:50:56 PM EDT
[#12]
So, the Dept of Ed looses all those loans and the Dept of Treas. gets a bonus from the taxed income from debt relief, while the average taxpayer has to foot the bill for the rest?

And this is going to help us?
Link Posted: 1/25/2021 1:52:34 PM EDT
[#13]
it will still be a 70-90% discount
Link Posted: 1/25/2021 1:53:04 PM EDT
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You get it. The universities have no real stake in the game. It doesn’t bother them if someone unqualified for college gets in and then fails/drops out in a year. They take the student loan money and keep building overbuilt student centers, etc and when they need more money they just hike the tuition.
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I think universities should be the ones holding the bag, not tax payers. The price of tuition is a joke and the only reason it goes unchecked is because anyone can get as much as then need from a loan backed by the gov.

Make the universities pay out of their huge endowments for students of theirs that don't pay back loans.


You get it. The universities have no real stake in the game. It doesn’t bother them if someone unqualified for college gets in and then fails/drops out in a year. They take the student loan money and keep building overbuilt student centers, etc and when they need more money they just hike the tuition.


Not making Universities responsible for this also means that they won't change things in the future.  Kids will sign up for larger and larger loans, assuming that it will just get waived by big daddy gov't.  

Progressives never actually deal with the issue, they just get someone else to pay for it (also see healthcare).
Link Posted: 1/25/2021 1:54:29 PM EDT
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The dems will find a way to absolve them of their tax debt - probably attach it to a budget bill and deal with it through reconciliation. Republicans will sue.
Link Posted: 1/25/2021 1:55:33 PM EDT
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What’s the plan for preventing a reoccurrence of this problem?
Link Posted: 1/25/2021 1:55:37 PM EDT
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Lol. They will just wave the tax too.
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Govt loves taxes as much as power.
Link Posted: 1/25/2021 1:56:16 PM EDT
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That is like saying "I dont want to win the lottery so I dont have to pay all the taxes".

Kinda letting the tail wag the dog?

Wish I would have taken out loans and be able suck off the tit of the gov. with handouts. Being responsible is for suckers!
Link Posted: 1/25/2021 1:56:53 PM EDT
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The solution to student loan debt is allowing bankruptcy.   Anything else is a half measure.
Link Posted: 1/25/2021 1:57:55 PM EDT
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This. The joke is on no one but the tax payers. That's where the debt will end up
Link Posted: 1/25/2021 2:00:07 PM EDT
[#21]
Anything to destroy the middle class.
Link Posted: 1/25/2021 2:00:26 PM EDT
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That is like saying "I dont want to win the lottery so I dont have to pay all the taxes".

Kinda letting the tail wag the dog?

Wish I would have taken out loans and be able suck off the tit of the gov. with handouts. Being responsible is for suckers!
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I'll suck extra hard for you.
Link Posted: 1/25/2021 2:02:19 PM EDT
[#23]
Can't they just change the tax rules for that one time occurrence?
Link Posted: 1/25/2021 2:02:45 PM EDT
[#24]
I doubt it. They managed to fraud an election. You don't think they don't know this? It'll be forgiven tax free and college will be "free".
Link Posted: 1/25/2021 2:06:16 PM EDT
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Not making Universities responsible for this also means that they won't change things in the future.  Kids will sign up for larger and larger loans, assuming that it will just get waived by big daddy gov't.  

Progressives never actually deal with the issue, they just get someone else to pay for it (also see healthcare).
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I think universities should be the ones holding the bag, not tax payers. The price of tuition is a joke and the only reason it goes unchecked is because anyone can get as much as then need from a loan backed by the gov.

Make the universities pay out of their huge endowments for students of theirs that don't pay back loans.


You get it. The universities have no real stake in the game. It doesn’t bother them if someone unqualified for college gets in and then fails/drops out in a year. They take the student loan money and keep building overbuilt student centers, etc and when they need more money they just hike the tuition.


Not making Universities responsible for this also means that they won't change things in the future.  Kids will sign up for larger and larger loans, assuming that it will just get waived by big daddy gov't.  

Progressives never actually deal with the issue, they just get someone else to pay for it (also see healthcare).


If the university was responsible for paying back loans where the borrower defaulted then they would have an incentive to keep that from happening. One way would be to lower the cost of tuition so they(the university) wouldn't be responsible for so much loan debt. Another would be to ensure students who left the university had the best possible chance to pay back the loans by giving them an actual education that is worth something in the real world.  

Here's an example:  Uni#1 offers a degree in "Gender fluidity" for $200k.  Uni#2 has an electrical engineering program for $50k. Under the current system it doesn't matter where the student gets the money, the university gets to keep all of it. IF the university was on the hook for unpaid loans Uni#1 would have a real problem in a short amount of time and be forced to change their model.
Link Posted: 1/25/2021 2:07:18 PM EDT
[#26]
Pfhttttttttttttttt.  Right.  You haven't heard about the crisis in unaffordable back taxes that are strangling the unprivileged masses?
Link Posted: 1/25/2021 2:12:29 PM EDT
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Lol
Link Posted: 1/25/2021 2:14:33 PM EDT
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They will make it not taxable with the stroke of a pen. Exactly as they did for certain disabled veterans.

Is student loan disability discharge taxable?
More notably, for certain student borrowers, it changes the tax exemption status of discharged student loans. As of January 2018, discharged student loan debt is no longer considered income. Any student loan debt that is discharged due to death or total and permanent disability (TPD) is no longer taxable.


Student loan forgiveness


Link Posted: 1/25/2021 2:18:08 PM EDT
[#29]
Those who whine and bicker for "student loan forgiveness" are some of the most entitled cunts in society.

Sorry Karen, it's not my fault your gender studies degree isn't getting you a high-paying job anywhere. Should've made better choices.
Link Posted: 1/25/2021 2:18:44 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/25/2021 2:19:59 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/25/2021 2:20:13 PM EDT
[#32]
It's a problem for little people. Some little guys fall for the memes, some exploit them, and some get butthurt about the first two groups; but they're a symptom of the US leaving industrial capitalism and becoming a finance-centered economy, like housing prices or weird wage to PPP curves.

Yeah, it's bad policy. But if you're unironically criticizing the victims, it's probably cope, because you have only yourself to blame for missing the banking train.
Link Posted: 1/25/2021 2:23:37 PM EDT
[#33]
I think you need to separate Federal Loans from Privet Loans.
The gov't can deal the way they want on their loans, but I doubt they can act directly without the issuer's approval on private loans. In this environment, Private loans carry very high interest rates.
Link Posted: 1/25/2021 2:24:43 PM EDT
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They could, and I wouldn't doubt it if they do, but Uncle Sugar Cookie wants his money so they'll find a way to tax someone for it.

Link Posted: 1/25/2021 2:25:24 PM EDT
[#35]
People that don't repay loans typically aren't paying taxes

I wouldn't be surprised if they go so far to just call it tax free in the first place
Link Posted: 1/25/2021 2:26:01 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/25/2021 2:26:40 PM EDT
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That’s a feature, not a defect.
Link Posted: 1/25/2021 2:27:44 PM EDT
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Keep your pants on, it's only 10k they are "forgiving".
Link Posted: 1/25/2021 2:27:57 PM EDT
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How many with student loans voted for Biden thinking he would pay them off?

Surely enough to defeat Trump in the very close battleground states.

Well folks, that's how Socialism works.........
Link Posted: 1/25/2021 2:40:19 PM EDT
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Same plan as with immigration, just do an amnesty every 30-40 years. By then the electorate will "demand" action again.
Link Posted: 1/25/2021 2:44:24 PM EDT
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How many with student loans voted for Biden thinking he would pay them off?

Surely enough to defeat Trump in the very close battleground states.

Well folks, that's how Socialism works.........
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way too many of my peers, which also made me aware of how many of my peers in their mid-30s have loans left
Link Posted: 1/25/2021 2:46:31 PM EDT
[#42]
No shit, I said this months ago.

It kills the banks but is a huge boon to the raise unrealized tax income for the fed.

Win win for the fed. Uneducated people see it as a blessing until the tax bill cones from IRS and garnishment begins.
Link Posted: 1/25/2021 2:47:06 PM EDT
[#43]
Normally that would be true but there is talk of writing the legislation in such a way as to make it non-taxable.
Link Posted: 1/25/2021 2:47:37 PM EDT
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Free Bachelor's Degree with purchase of HS diploma.
Link Posted: 1/25/2021 2:48:47 PM EDT
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This.
Link Posted: 1/25/2021 2:49:04 PM EDT
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Public service loan isn’t subject to taxes.  I think so anyways
Link Posted: 1/25/2021 2:50:38 PM EDT
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IIRC, there are retirees having their SS benefits garnished to recover outstanding student loan debt.
Link Posted: 1/25/2021 2:52:55 PM EDT
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Plus, not having them backed with tax payer money.
Link Posted: 1/25/2021 2:53:46 PM EDT
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You guys are crazy if you don't think they're going to also take of the tax issue.
They're not going to forgive the loans and then hit then for taxes to the IRS that if not paid has penalties and interest.

It'll be written so that all is forgiven.
Link Posted: 1/25/2021 2:57:05 PM EDT
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Two things to note:

1. Any debt forgiveness is income.

2. Who writes and rewrites the tax laws?
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